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| 02:10.40 | rue_mohr | greetings, my question is regards to dahdi_monitor and the units it measure levels in, is it 15 bit signed? (what is peak?) |
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| 09:40.51 | ScribbleJ | Is there some sort of #ifdef I can use to tell whether I am compiling against 1.4.x or 1.6.x ? |
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| 10:12.44 | snuff-home | for addons? |
| 10:15.43 | ScribbleJ | Just in general, I guess. Was cleaning up some code to submit to reviewboard. |
| 10:15.58 | ScribbleJ | It's not in addons, dunno if it should go there or not. |
| 10:16.48 | ScribbleJ | There's literally /one line/ I have to change to get it to compile on 1.4, just thought I could not have to duplicate the entire file for that. |
| 10:17.27 | snuff-home | u will need to make seperate diffs |
| 10:17.39 | snuff-home | for review board to be happy anyway |
| 10:18.20 | ScribbleJ | Fair enough then! |
| 10:22.01 | snuff-home | u can probably almost just get away with posting the trunk one only |
| 10:22.35 | snuff-home | then note in ur description etc that line X has to change for it to be compatible with 1.4 |
| 10:22.59 | ScribbleJ | OK, I'll do that. I was only planning on posting trunk, didn't think anyone wanted patches against 1.4 :) |
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| 11:37.58 | enriq | Hello. I have a question: I'd like to use an alsa-supported modem as dahdi/zaptel device, so I guess I'd have to write a driver (like wcfxo.c) that adapts the alsa interface to zaptel interface. For this I'd like to have: 1. opinions :), 2. does this exist already?, 3. Where can I find a "how-to write a zaptel driver"? |
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| 12:37.26 | tzafrir_laptop | enriq, |
| 12:37.33 | tzafrir_laptop | 1. this would surely be welcomed |
| 12:37.42 | tzafrir_laptop | 2. no |
| 12:39.04 | tzafrir_laptop | 3. other drivers, basically. Also http://zapteldoc.blogspot.com/ and the eixsting documentation |
| 12:39.45 | tzafrir_laptop | 4. I'm not really sure Zaptel would work with the ALSA interface. Maybe it would need to talk directly to the relevant chip |
| 12:40.27 | enriq | tzafrir_laptop: thank you. |
| 12:41.11 | enriq | as for 4.... why? performanec? |
| 12:41.18 | enriq | *performance? |
| 12:41.45 | tzafrir_laptop | I don't know the ALSA modem code well enough. I have a feeling it would not provide all the required information |
| 12:42.01 | enriq | I see |
| 12:42.54 | enriq | that's the first thing I should evaluate.... is there a spec of what zaptel expects from a driver? |
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| 12:57.37 | tzafrir_laptop | enriq, well.. not really |
| 12:57.51 | tzafrir_laptop | But wcfxo is generally the simplest driver to start from :-( |
| 12:58.42 | tzafrir_laptop | One clear thing: an interrupt every milli-second and then copy the sample buffer to Zaptel |
| 13:02.10 | enriq | tzafrir_laptop: thanks... and what would be the right way of testing a driver? are there test programs? do I need to test from asterisk? |
| 13:02.51 | tzafrir_laptop | One simple test, for timing: dahdi_test (zttest) |
| 13:03.36 | enriq | thanks a lot, I have something to begin! |
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| 14:23.59 | jsmith | waves to everyone in the channel |
| 14:26.13 | lmadsen | waves back |
| 14:28.01 | file | hola jsmith |
| 14:28.17 | jsmith | file: Buenos donuts, mi amigo! |
| 14:28.22 | jsmith | lmadsen: Morning! |
| 14:28.54 | anonymouz666 | jsmith: nice spanish |
| 14:29.28 | jsmith | anonymouz666: Le gusta? |
| 14:37.28 | enriq | haha |
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| 14:51.10 | rue_mohr | greetings, my question is regards to dahdi_monitor and the units it measure levels in, is it 15 bit signed? (what is peak?) |
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| 15:12.53 | Dr-Linux|home | just wanted to confirm if it's a bug in Asterisk: http://www.syednetworks.com/asteriskforums?forumaction=showposts&forum=5&thread=303&start=0 |
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| 15:15.06 | file | it's impossible to answer that without seeing more information such as the actual SIP dialog and packets involved |
| 15:16.32 | Dr-Linux|home | file: this is not problem with only that Cisco SIP gateway that i mentioned above, but if even i send call anywhere on SIP, i face this problem and DTMF touch tones doesnt work |
| 15:17.20 | Dr-Linux|home | file: i'm talking to my provider Vrizon since 2 weeks but they said this is my side problem. |
| 15:17.30 | file | okay |
| 15:17.37 | Dr-Linux|home | file: let me show their response in pastebin: |
| 15:17.53 | file | you can do some basic troubleshooting, and if you need help with that ask in #asterisk |
| 15:18.06 | file | and if it does look to be an issue with Asterisk then file an issue report |
| 15:18.06 | file | and we will get to it when we can |
| 15:20.15 | Dr-Linux|home | file: i already talked in #asterisk |
| 15:20.38 | file | okay, we are not tier 2 support :) |
| 15:20.38 | Dr-Linux|home | i pm you their response |
| 15:20.47 | Dr-Linux|home | okey thanks :) |
| 15:20.49 | file | I don't accept private messages from people I don't know |
| 15:21.14 | Dr-Linux|home | http://pastebin.ca/1336127 |
| 15:21.31 | mvanbaak | we actually have that built in in our ircd on ambernet. /mode mvanbaak +g |
| 15:21.33 | mvanbaak | tadaaaaaaaaaa |
| 15:22.58 | file | Dr-Linux|home: okay |
| 15:23.29 | Dr-Linux|home | file: thanks |
| 15:23.49 | file | Dr-Linux|home: that doesn't really yield any really useful information |
| 15:24.57 | Dr-Linux|home | file: yeah but warnings i shown in forum link |
| 15:25.17 | Dr-Linux|home | i'm not sure if 1.4.23.1 will fix my problem |
| 15:25.18 | file | yes, and I said without the SIP dialog and packet traces it is impossible to know exactly what is going on |
| 15:25.43 | Dr-Linux|home | file: they send me sip traces as well |
| 15:26.06 | file | and like I said previously this is not tier 2 support |
| 15:26.07 | Dr-Linux|home | i mean .pcap files |
| 15:26.16 | Dr-Linux|home | file: and i said, thanks :) |
| 15:26.21 | Dr-Linux|home | it's okay |
| 15:26.28 | file | have you done any basic troubleshooting? |
| 15:27.22 | Dr-Linux|home | file: yes doing that from last 3 weeks |
| 15:27.39 | file | okay, just file an issue report with everything |
| 15:27.47 | Dr-Linux|home | file: i tried to discuss this issue with you, because i know this is not normal issue |
| 15:28.49 | Dr-Linux|home | file: first i'm going to upgrade from 1.4.22 to 1.4.23.1, if that doesn't fix my issue then I gonna report this issue |
| 15:29.16 | file | ok |
| 15:29.41 | Dr-Linux|home | thanks |
| 15:29.52 | asteriskmonkey | this is kinda left feild, does anyone know what causes a � in callerid in ss7 environment? |
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| 20:04.34 | mvanbaak_ | huh ? |
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| 20:07.06 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: hi! |
| 20:07.29 | kpfleming | mvanbaak: i understand that while you were in brussels you may have consumed some beer |
| 20:07.51 | mvanbaak | hey all |
| 20:08.07 | lmadsen | that doesn't sound right... |
| 20:08.17 | russellb | kpfleming: he got sick and couldn't go :-( |
| 20:08.21 | mvanbaak | kpfleming: if you are in brussels and you are _not_ having a beer, somethings wrong with you |
| 20:08.31 | mvanbaak | kpfleming: but last fosdem I was not there |
| 20:08.35 | kpfleming | i went to brussels and did not have a beer |
| 20:08.40 | russellb | blasphemy! |
| 20:08.40 | kpfleming | but i don't drink beer |
| 20:08.46 | mvanbaak | kpfleming: I've been in bed from friday till tuesday |
| 20:08.50 | russellb | I did drink beer, and it was glorious. |
| 20:09.41 | kpfleming | go go go release tagger! go go go! |
| 20:09.48 | russellb | does the release dance |
| 20:10.07 | lmadsen | dances |
| 20:10.20 | lmadsen | I'm getting better at this release stuff... it's not taking me 4 hours to run the script :) |
| 20:10.43 | lmadsen | ...then clean up my screwup, then run the script, then clean up my screwup... then... (ad nauseam) |
| 20:11.15 | lmadsen | either kpfleming is happy because he's not in a meeting, or he is bored because he is in a meeting :) |
| 20:11.37 | kpfleming | the former |
| 20:11.48 | putnopvut | It sounds like Allison Smith is in his office |
| 20:11.51 | putnopvut | BUT SHE'S NOT |
| 20:12.00 | kpfleming | yes, yes it does |
| 20:13.10 | russellb | zomg wideband |
| 20:13.17 | mvanbaak | testing HD audio ? |
| 20:13.46 | kpfleming | super-wideband |
| 20:13.56 | russellb | are you calling your phone fat? |
| 20:14.05 | file | russellb: oh no you didn't |
| 20:14.52 | russellb | i did. |
| 20:15.05 | mvanbaak | but things look good for the snom meeting |
| 20:15.10 | mvanbaak | budget is almost here |
| 20:15.51 | russellb | mvanbaak: check back with us before purchasing any tickets or anything .. |
| 20:16.01 | russellb | as there hasn't been a big response so far. |
| 20:16.34 | mvanbaak | k |
| 20:17.00 | russellb | have you expressed your level of interest to jtodd yet? It would be good to do so if you haven't |
| 20:17.20 | mvanbaak | I did. Talked to him two days ago on IRC |
| 20:17.27 | russellb | oh, alright, cool |
| 20:18.02 | mvanbaak | I hope to have the budgetplan fitting on monday |
| 20:18.09 | mvanbaak | I'll mail him as soon as I know |
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| 20:51.22 | snuff-home | m.... |
| 20:51.29 | codefreeze-lap | Just to make sure I'm not senile, hints have to be constants, no variables, right? (at least, no non-globals, that is) |
| 20:55.18 | russellb | correct. |
| 20:55.23 | russellb | calls do not execute hints |
| 20:55.26 | russellb | so you can't use channel variables. |
| 20:55.59 | martyn-dev | hi |
| 20:57.04 | codefreeze-lap | thought so! |
| 21:03.28 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze-lap: in 1.6.0 and higher, they can have variables and functions |
| 21:03.57 | Corydon76-dig | of course, the variables have to be either globals or EXTEN or CONTEXT |
| 21:04.14 | Corydon76-dig | Since there's no real channel, no other variables are possible |
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| 21:13.44 | martyn-dev | Hi, somebody here used JAGIServer ? |
| 21:14.39 | martyn-dev | I'm trying to use it and i get a message ("510 Invalid or unknown command") from res_agi.c, but i dont know why JAGIserver send or detect this message . Do you know some about it ? |
| 21:16.40 | martyn-dev | I'm seeng that in JAGIClient.java the the function readLine() try detect some from asterisk-agi but res_agi.c send to JAGIClient this message. Do you know why ? |
| 21:21.36 | Corydon76-dig | martyn-dev: #asterisk, please |
| 21:22.04 | martyn-dev | ok Corydon76-dig .. i'm there |
| 21:32.45 | ScribbleJ | So I'm trying to use the silence detection dsp to tell when someone has stopped speaking, and I've got two questions. It seems like the code for the dsp tries to get a 'baseline' by averaging noise levels over the last several frames, but this seems to cause it to awlays detect noise off the bat, and if you do not make a real noise, it goes nuts detecting silence/noise right because of it basically getting sensitive to the back |
| 21:32.45 | ScribbleJ | ground noise fluctuations. |
| 21:33.00 | ScribbleJ | First off, is that at all right, and is there a simple way to use it I'm fucking up? |
| 21:33.36 | ScribbleJ | Secondly, more of a general question... the dsp has an internal only function that returns totalnoise and totalsilence, which would be useful! Any particular reason this is not exposed? |
| 21:34.54 | Corydon76-dig | The intent is to start dsp detection at the very beginning of a call and the detection therefore is tuned to when silence is normally occurring |
| 21:35.30 | Corydon76-dig | but silence is relative. Silence with a background of a machine shop is different silence than that of an office environment |
| 21:35.37 | ScribbleJ | This makes sense. Unfortunately, I'm just building a speech API plugin, and don't really have access to any data outside of calls to SpeechBackground() to feed the dsp. |
| 21:36.00 | ScribbleJ | Aye, yeah... I see the reason for doing it this way, it's just cauing me headaches... I guess because I'm using a hammer to fit a screw? |
| 21:36.19 | Corydon76-dig | Sure you do. Just before SpeechBackground starts the playback, you can obtain a few frames of relative silence |
| 21:37.21 | Corydon76-dig | In answer to your second question, lack of need is probably why it's not exposed |
| 21:37.47 | Corydon76-dig | We try to expose as few elements as necessary, to avoid polluting the global namespace |
| 21:38.21 | ScribbleJ | Makes sense... that one in particular just seems so useful; there's no other way I can see to detect times of both silence and speech at the same time. |
| 21:38.29 | ScribbleJ | Er, silence and noise. |
| 21:39.11 | ScribbleJ | And the funny thing is the calls to detect silence and speech each respectively just call that function that does both... heh. Anyhow, I think with your suggestion I might not need it. |
| 21:40.29 | ScribbleJ | Although I am a little confused on just where I can pull some frames of 'known silence'... I'll see what I can come up with. |
| 21:41.31 | ScribbleJ | I guess, it's functionally equivalent to just ignoring the results of detection on the first X frames I get passed. |
| 21:41.41 | ScribbleJ | Does that sound reasonable? |
| 21:45.24 | Corydon76-dig | That's basically it. |
| 21:45.26 | ScribbleJ | Hrm, I'm still always going to have the problem where if the user says nothing for a sufficiently long period, the silence detection converges on the background noise as interesting features. |
| 21:45.44 | Corydon76-dig | No, it shouldn't |
| 21:45.58 | Corydon76-dig | Background noise should be a constant |
| 21:45.59 | ScribbleJ | OKay. I'll assume that's my fuckup then, I'll try what I just said first. |
| 21:46.17 | Corydon76-dig | If background noise isn't a constant, then sample more |
| 21:46.45 | ScribbleJ | Ah - that's the thing, though; the DSP averages the last several frames to determine the cutoff threshold; and background noise is constant but has little ups and downs... after a few seconds of only silence, the DSP seems to average out to the point where it notices these background features. |
| 21:47.01 | ScribbleJ | But this again, is probably my stupidity. I'll try what you said first. |
| 21:47.11 | Corydon76-dig | Well, I'm sure the DSP could always be improved |
| 21:47.19 | Qwell | In issue 13480, the DAHDI_NAME define was added to include/asterisk/dahdi_compat.h. I think the default for DAHDI_NAME when building against Zaptel should be Zaptel rather than DAHDI. Thoughts? I assume it's a bug. |
| 21:47.35 | ScribbleJ | Probably not be me... but if I continue to notice the same behavior, I'll try it... even though I am not so bright. :) |
| 21:47.38 | Corydon76-dig | Maybe instead of the silence setting the threshold, the threshold is set at 50% greater than the silence |
| 21:47.44 | ScribbleJ | Ooooh |
| 21:47.52 | ScribbleJ | See, if I had brains I'd have thought of that myself. |
| 21:48.01 | Corydon76-dig | or 25%... |
| 21:48.16 | Corydon76-dig | You could probably work out a good proportion |
| 21:48.33 | ScribbleJ | OK, thanks... yeah. I can run with this. I could even have the proportion added as an option in dsp.conf |
| 21:49.44 | Qwell | I should note that all usages of DAHDI_NAME are for textual uses (ie; in logs) only |
| 21:49.55 | kpfleming | Qwell: i think you are correct |
| 21:50.03 | kpfleming | it does sound like a bug |
| 21:50.06 | Qwell | fixes |
| 21:50.15 | Qwell | Deeewayne: ^^ :D |
| 21:50.48 | Deeewayne | yay :-) |
| 22:03.58 | codefreeze-lap | OUCH! I just edited a bugs.digium.com note in a bug, and the whole comment disappeared! The history says I edited the comment... not deleted it! |
| 22:04.38 | codefreeze-lap | Lesson: never read what you wrote and try to fix your mistakes! |
| 22:05.10 | putnopvut | I edit notes all the time. Hm. |
| 22:05.50 | codefreeze-lap | Hmmmmmmm.... I must have a wyoming accent when it comes the Hmmmm'ing. |
| 22:17.04 | jsmith | codefreeze-lap: Yay for Wyoming accents! |
| 22:22.50 | codefreeze-lap | putnopvut: scratch that, the bug note edit was fine. The reporter got back to me so fast, that I thought my comment disappeared. |
| 22:37.46 | kpfleming | i don't think you should be asking putnopvut to be scratching things, FYI |
| 22:38.55 | russellb | o.O |
| 22:39.00 | seanbright | well he's certainly not going to offer without at least the suggestion |
| 22:39.06 | file | ... |
| 22:39.16 | russellb | yep, it does appear to be Friday. |
| 22:39.21 | seanbright | looks |
| 22:39.24 | seanbright | ah. yes. |
| 22:40.22 | mvanbaak | friday 13th |
| 22:43.28 | putnopvut | scratches his head |
| 22:50.52 | mvanbaak | time left before ts 1234567890 is 2454 seconds |
| 22:51.11 | russellb | Are you ready to party like it's 1234567890? |
| 22:51.37 | mvanbaak | PARTY ! |
| 22:52.23 | snuff-home | mm.. guy in 14460 claims the rfc dmtf isn't fixed |
| 22:52.49 | *** join/#asterisk-dev dwery (n=dwery@nslu2-linux/dwery) |
| 22:52.54 | mvanbaak | blame the ts ;) |
| 22:53.07 | dwery | !seen dseeb_ |
| 22:54.51 | kpfleming | so when is 0xDEADBEEF? |
| 22:56.28 | Qwell | Thu May 20 16:55:59 CDT 2088 |
| 22:56.32 | kpfleming | or 0xBEEFCAFE |
| 22:57.57 | mvanbaak | meh, php cannot handle that |
| 22:58.08 | mvanbaak | 04-14-1952 16:27 |
| 22:58.20 | kpfleming | how can that be? that's before 1970 |
| 22:58.39 | mvanbaak | overflo |
| 22:58.49 | mvanbaak | w |
| 22:59.06 | mvanbaak | 2039 is max in php |
| 22:59.57 | kpfleming | well, 2039 is the max without going past 31 bits |
| 23:00.24 | Qwell | I can't think of any reason for time to be signed |
| 23:01.14 | mvanbaak | Qwell: how about timestamps from before 1970 ? |
| 23:01.55 | Qwell | Under what circumstances would you need a timestamp before 1970 but not before 1900? |
| 23:02.17 | mvanbaak | birthdays |
| 23:02.36 | Qwell | There are still people older than 109. |
| 23:02.42 | ScribbleJ | You don't need to-the-second resolution for birthdays either. |
| 23:02.43 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 23:02.51 | ScribbleJ | Unless you're a hospital I guess. |
| 23:03.10 | mvanbaak | ScribbleJ: there you go. there's the need for it |
| 23:03.32 | ScribbleJ | OK, but let's be honest. using the unix timestamp to store that data would be mildly retarded. |
| 23:03.42 | Corydon76-dig | You'll have a slight problem getting to 2038 |
| 23:03.50 | Corydon76-dig | Err, 2039, that is |
| 23:04.03 | Corydon76-dig | The max is in 2038 |
| 23:04.10 | ScribbleJ | That's ok, we all know Unix isn't going to last that long. |
| 23:04.18 | ScribbleJ | ... |
| 23:04.26 | *** part/#asterisk-dev dwery (n=dwery@nslu2-linux/dwery) |
| 23:05.13 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: there was a reason at one time to have dates before 1970. Consider back business records |
| 23:05.36 | Corydon76-dig | I agree that there is no longer a reason to have dates before 1970, though |
| 23:06.16 | mvanbaak | I object |
| 23:06.36 | ScribbleJ | I didn't have my first date 'till circa 1990. |
| 23:06.45 | ScribbleJ | Oh wait, now I'm just confused. |
| 23:06.57 | mvanbaak | ScribbleJ: it was 1790 ? |
| 23:07.01 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: y'all might as well have been born in 1970, there's no need to go further back. ;-) |
| 23:07.13 | ScribbleJ | Haaa |
| 23:07.16 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 23:07.32 | mvanbaak | we store birthdays |
| 23:08.04 | mvanbaak | we had the field as unsigned int as well |
| 23:08.20 | mvanbaak | but ppl started to send in tickets because of that |
| 23:08.21 | Corydon76-dig | Weird |
| 23:08.46 | mvanbaak | they created a date field for 'start of company' |
| 23:09.03 | Corydon76-dig | Why store as unixtime, when a database can store a date as a native type? |
| 23:09.08 | mvanbaak | and they did business with companies that were started between 1700 and now |
| 23:09.16 | ScribbleJ | It seems like using unix timestamps for dates outside of file-timestamps and system time is a pretty bad idea. |
| 23:09.37 | ScribbleJ | Right, what Corydon76-dig said. |
| 23:09.43 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: because calculations with unixtimes are easy |
| 23:09.44 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: well, it is an excellent intermediate step |
| 23:10.01 | ScribbleJ | Corydon76-dig, excellent for dates in the range, which is narrow. |
| 23:10.04 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: that may be true, but the calculation is also very easy |
| 23:10.26 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: 68 years is narrow? |
| 23:10.36 | Corydon76-dig | Excuse me, 136 years |
| 23:10.44 | ScribbleJ | Corydon76-dig, well, let's see, the universe is roughly 14 billion years old so... I'm going with yes. |
| 23:11.11 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: and you have business records that go back more than 30 years, WHY? |
| 23:11.16 | ScribbleJ | I think this conversation has been about how easy it is to overflow a unix timestamp. |
| 23:11.37 | Corydon76-dig | 10 years is the outside that I can see that would be at all useful |
| 23:12.08 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: granted |
| 23:12.15 | ScribbleJ | Corydon76-dig, so... how are you going to track your 30-year mortgage? |
| 23:12.32 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: by paying it off in 15 |
| 23:12.33 | mvanbaak | zzzz time |
| 23:12.37 | ScribbleJ | Hahaha, good call. |
| 23:12.51 | ScribbleJ | You're still 5 years outside your useful date range though. :P |
| 23:13.02 | Corydon76-dig | and Unixtime can still handle that |
| 23:13.24 | ScribbleJ | Not anymore... 2038, < 30 years. |
| 23:13.40 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: I have 22 years left on my 30-year mortgage |
| 23:13.51 | ScribbleJ | Corydon76-dig, oh, so it' a USER problem now? :P |
| 23:14.02 | ScribbleJ | I shoulda' bought sooner. |
| 23:14.06 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: pretty much |
| 23:14.34 | ScribbleJ | Wait'll the giant stock market crash of 2012, when you refinance... then we'll see who is laughing! |
| 23:15.05 | Corydon76-dig | Speaking of which, I need to refi |
| 23:15.22 | Corydon76-dig | I'm currently paying 7.5% |
| 23:15.33 | Corydon76-dig | and now's as good a time as any |
| 23:15.54 | ScribbleJ | Yeah, the fed can't lower interest rates without paying you to take the money. |
| 23:16.14 | ScribbleJ | I reckon the plan now is to just start printing cash, end up like Zimbabwe inside a decade. |
| 23:16.31 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: start? |
| 23:16.37 | ScribbleJ | Ramp up then? |
| 23:16.37 | ScribbleJ | Heh |
| 23:16.45 | ScribbleJ | We're so f-ed. |
| 23:16.45 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: where have you been the last 6 months? |
| 23:16.59 | ScribbleJ | Corydon76-dig, hiding under a rock; it seemed like the only sane thing to do. |
| 23:20.18 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: actually, if 30 year mortgages were a problem, you would have seen them causing the problem starting this month |
| 23:20.55 | Corydon76-dig | January 18, 2038 is the maximum |
| 23:21.32 | Corydon76-dig | Your last payment is already 106 years overdue |
| 23:24.05 | JunK-Y | pokes Corydon76-dig and run away. |
| 23:24.27 | Corydon76-dig | Evening, JunK-Y |
| 23:25.07 | ScribbleJ | Yeah |
| 23:25.27 | ScribbleJ | The only reason it's not a problem is - wisely - no one uses unix timestamps for those things. |
| 23:28.29 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: can I quote you on that? |
| 23:29.33 | ScribbleJ | Hah |
| 23:29.37 | Corydon76-dig | ScribbleJ: I predict you'll hear a story like that within about 90 days. The only reason you haven't heard about it yet is the global housing crisis is masking other little problems like that |
| 23:29.45 | ScribbleJ | I was just wondering if there /are/ stories like that... |
| 23:29.55 | ScribbleJ | We'll see, it'll be fun if you're right. I like to point and laugh. |
| 23:30.29 | Corydon76-dig | dances like the time is a rather pointless number |
| 23:31.13 | ScribbleJ | I'm about 30s away from said pointelss number. |
| 23:31.30 | Corydon76-dig | Ding |
| 23:31.40 | ScribbleJ | $ date +"%s" |
| 23:31.40 | ScribbleJ | 1234567890 |
| 23:31.44 | ScribbleJ | ding indeed. |
| 23:31.54 | Corydon76-dig | [17:31:30] <Corydon76-dig> Ding |
| 23:32.05 | Corydon76-dig | Right on the nose |
| 23:32.30 | ScribbleJ | I was too busy hittin UP<ENTER> to get it from 'date' |
| 23:32.31 | ScribbleJ | Heh |
| 23:32.55 | Corydon76-dig | I was merely counting |
| 23:33.29 | Corydon76-dig | Detention in elementary school gave me excellent ability to count seconds right on the nose |
| 23:35.21 | ScribbleJ | Hahah |
| 23:44.11 | seanbright | when do we pass 2B? |
| 23:44.39 | seanbright | 2030ish? |
| 23:47.25 | Corydon76-dig | eh? |
| 23:47.32 | seanbright | 2000000000 |
| 23:48.06 | Corydon76-dig | mysql> select from_unixtime(2000000000); |
| 23:48.13 | seanbright | and the result is... |
| 23:48.38 | Corydon76-dig | Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day |
| 23:48.49 | Corydon76-dig | Light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life |
| 23:49.20 | seanbright | burn victims actually get the chills |
| 23:49.31 | seanbright | so when do we pass 2B? |
| 23:49.44 | Corydon76-dig | May 2033 |
| 23:49.56 | seanbright | cool |
| 23:50.08 | Corydon76-dig | lights seanbright on fire |
| 23:50.41 | Corydon76-dig | Now you're flaming. ;-) |