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| 03:33.52 | file | nods to jtodd |
| 03:35.16 | lmadsen | nods to file |
| 03:35.36 | file | pushes lmadsen |
| 03:38.21 | lmadsen | this vpn I'm connected to SUCKS |
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| 12:13.02 | jmls1 | monring all |
| 12:13.31 | snuff-home | ello |
| 12:13.31 | jmls1 | jabber does not need gnutls to build, does it ? |
| 12:15.04 | snuff-home | mm that's something i should know the answer to.. but i am unsure :( |
| 12:16.09 | snuff-home | argh.. i swear my branch isn't up to date merging must have failed somewhere.. |
| 12:16.10 | eliel | openssl and iksemel |
| 12:16.30 | jmls1 | eliel: only if I need ssl for jabber, though ? |
| 12:17.04 | eliel | jmls1: yeaph, i think so |
| 12:18.15 | jmls1 | A while ago there was talk about taking over the maintenance of iksemel |
| 12:18.19 | jmls1 | did that happen ? |
| 12:18.27 | jmls1 | or do I just use the standard sources ? |
| 12:18.59 | mvanbaak | I dont see iksemel repo on svn.digium.com so I guess it didn't happen yet |
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| 12:19.12 | snuff-home | its still get ur own atm.. |
| 12:19.49 | snuff-home | mvanbaak / eliel how do i know if automerge is failing? |
| 12:20.03 | mvanbaak | svn info |
| 12:20.09 | eliel | svn pl . |
| 12:20.11 | mvanbaak | check the revision number of your branch |
| 12:20.16 | mvanbaak | oh, and that |
| 12:20.24 | eliel | or check if automerge is set |
| 12:20.26 | mvanbaak | svn pl . | grep automerge |
| 12:20.42 | eliel | any value is correct for automerge to be enabled |
| 12:20.50 | snuff-home | hmm.. svn jabber = 151900 vs trunk=152605 :( |
| 12:21.08 | mvanbaak | E_OUTOFSYNC |
| 12:21.22 | snuff-home | mm :( |
| 12:21.33 | snuff-home | i couldn't reach origsvn before |
| 12:21.33 | mvanbaak | snuff-home: if you set the property 'automerge-email' to your emailaddress you will get a mail when automerge fails and cancels |
| 12:22.22 | eliel | snuff-home: download repotools and run a manual merge |
| 12:22.24 | jmls1 | oh. was gnutls removed in 1.6 or 1.4 jabber ? |
| 12:28.29 | snuff-home | i think there are still parts of it in code.. |
| 12:28.48 | snuff-home | mm my 1/2 answers are really bad since i've been editing the jabber/jingle code lately ;) |
| 12:28.52 | snuff-home | i should know |
| 12:31.15 | snuff-home | in res_jabber only 1 mention of gnutls |
| 12:33.23 | jmls1 | snuff-home: is that in 1.4 ? |
| 12:33.32 | snuff-home | would be trunk |
| 12:33.46 | jmls1 | buuger. I need to check 1.4 |
| 12:33.54 | jmls1 | goes off to hunt through code |
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| 12:36.23 | snuff-home | mm.. jmls1 i think the gnutls depends more on ur iskemel than asterisk |
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| 12:37.52 | codefreeze-lap | darned windows updates |
| 12:38.23 | snuff-home | mmm the last one was rather important.. remote code execution flaw.. |
| 12:46.52 | codefreeze-lap | It's just that they reboot your system automatically.... which is irritating at times.... |
| 12:52.18 | snuff-home | mm.. |
| 12:52.32 | snuff-home | i just have mine set to 'notify only' |
| 12:54.27 | lmadsen | it is much too early |
| 13:04.40 | codefreeze-lap | snuff-home: I guess, if I did that, I'd have like 500 backed up and be wondering why my system got rooted... so I guess I shouldn't complain. |
| 13:09.58 | snuff-home | heh.. ;) |
| 13:11.11 | lmadsen | codefreeze-lap: well hello there! |
| 13:11.41 | codefreeze-lap | gmorn'n, lmadsen! |
| 13:11.50 | lmadsen | it is early |
| 13:12.08 | mvanbaak | everything before 3 PM is early ;) |
| 13:12.24 | lmadsen | totally |
| 13:13.01 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: are you moved in?! |
| 13:13.44 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 13:13.47 | lmadsen | nice |
| 13:13.59 | mvanbaak | waiting for my internet connection. It will be operational nov 10 |
| 13:14.10 | codefreeze-lap | Morning is my favorite time of day. After/If you can get past the "getting up" phase, that is! |
| 13:14.18 | lmadsen | sweet... are you ready to get coding some stuff for documentation?! :) |
| 13:14.30 | mvanbaak | lmadsen: yes-sir |
| 13:14.31 | lmadsen | codefreeze-lap: I never get past that point :) |
| 13:14.51 | mvanbaak | codefreeze-lap: everything before 3PM is sleeptime, and after 3PM it's time for good vino |
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| 13:15.12 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: coolio... I have a couple of backends I'd like to look at and maybe you can tell me which one will be easiest to get docs into and out of via XML |
| 13:15.22 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: sometimes I'll even take bad vino |
| 13:15.25 | file | oh no! it is jtodd! |
| 13:15.30 | lmadsen | EVERYONE HID! |
| 13:15.32 | lmadsen | HIDE! |
| 13:15.38 | mvanbaak | hides |
| 13:15.38 | lmadsen | hid's and hides |
| 13:15.54 | lmadsen | s/'// |
| 13:16.09 | mvanbaak | lmadsen: cool. |
| 13:16.10 | codefreeze-lap | how "hideous" |
| 13:16.31 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: so the two are Plone and MoinMoin (wiki) |
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| 13:16.53 | mvanbaak | Plone I know, MoinMoin I only know by name |
| 13:16.56 | lmadsen | MoinMoin has a docbook exporter; how useful, I have no idea. But Plone, I don't think has import or export of XML docs |
| 13:17.03 | lmadsen | you've used Plone? |
| 13:17.13 | mvanbaak | yes, couple of years ago |
| 13:17.23 | lmadsen | oh ok, then that probably is the best base for us to start on |
| 13:17.36 | mvanbaak | hhmm, if moinmoin has a docbook exporter, it wont be too hard to create the reverse |
| 13:17.37 | lmadsen | which reminds me that I have to review a chapter for them sometime today |
| 13:17.48 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: ya... let me send you a link |
| 13:18.15 | lmadsen | I'll create you a login to my moinmoin wiki and you can take a quick look if you wish |
| 13:18.49 | mvanbaak | sure, but no time today sorry ;) |
| 13:19.29 | mvanbaak | hhmm, not bad |
| 13:19.34 | lmadsen | heh np, just ping me when you have some time one of these days to check it out |
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| 13:20.33 | mvanbaak | k |
| 13:20.35 | file | hello there bbryant! |
| 13:20.40 | bbryant | morning file |
| 13:20.41 | mvanbaak | I should get back to work :( |
| 13:20.45 | bbryant | how's it going? |
| 13:20.52 | mvanbaak | latero |
| 13:20.58 | lmadsen | work sucks ;) |
| 13:21.01 | file | not bad! you? |
| 13:21.08 | bbryant | not bad either |
| 13:21.40 | jsmith | lmadsen: That bad, eh? |
| 13:21.47 | lmadsen | totally |
| 13:22.00 | jsmith | Yeah... I hear your co-workers torment you relentlessly |
| 13:22.06 | lmadsen | I just don't like getting woken up by clients 3 mornings in a row when I've been up till 2am each of those nights |
| 13:22.14 | lmadsen | jsmith: especially this Jared fellow I know |
| 13:22.18 | lmadsen | he's the worst! |
| 13:22.27 | jsmith | Yeah, I heard about him. He's a jerk. |
| 13:22.37 | lmadsen | ya... has a last name like the apple |
| 13:22.38 | JunK-Y | file: since canreinvite=no is to not send reinvites, is there any way to ignore INCOMING reinvite? a remote system is sending a reinvite after 20 minutes. |
| 13:22.53 | file | JunK-Y: no |
| 13:23.13 | JunK-Y | file: do you think that will be a neat thing to have? |
| 13:23.20 | file | shrugs |
| 13:23.29 | JunK-Y | that remote system is a genesys sip server. |
| 13:25.28 | JunK-Y | mvanbaak: never got a reply from Jim Dixon. |
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| 13:47.06 | eliel | xml dialplan, we can start the discussion? http://pastebin.com/d2f645c06 |
| 13:47.17 | mvanbaak | JunK-Y: ah, then we should just go on and fix the CLI I think |
| 13:53.57 | jsmith | eliel: Ugh... I was only kidding about an XML dialplan :-) |
| 13:55.15 | eliel | i am thinking about extensions.xml (pbx/pbx_xml) and a config engine for xml also. |
| 13:58.15 | eliel | jsmith: do you think this is not useful? |
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| 13:58.59 | jsmith | eliel: I honestly believe it's not useful |
| 13:59.22 | jsmith | eliel: (or, let me restate that... I believe it's of *very little* use) |
| 13:59.55 | jsmith | What would a dialplan in XML give us over the current dialplan syntax(es), except for a different format that's harder to type? |
| 14:00.18 | jsmith | The reason we put the documentation in XML was to be able to access parts of it programatically |
| 14:00.34 | eliel | jsmith: it will allow for thirdparty frontends (??) |
| 14:00.36 | jsmith | But we already know how to access the dialplan programatically, so I don't see any gain here |
| 14:00.59 | jsmith | eliel: As does the current dialplan language... as does the AddConfig/UpdateConfig actions of AMI |
| 14:01.14 | mvanbaak | well, write your dialplan on a moinmoin wiki and output it as docbook/xml and load that in asterisk ;) |
| 14:01.58 | jsmith | has learned to hate the moinmoin docbook exporter |
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| 15:04.03 | write_erase | Hi.... I have SCCP Cisco 7941 phone on my Asterisk 1.6. I can register them, but I can't answer calls (no sound) ... How can I debug skinny ? |
| 15:05.36 | putnopvut | write_erase: I am by no means a chan_skinny expert, but there is a CLI command "skinny set debug" which will show some debug information for skinny calls. |
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| 18:33.45 | seanbright | howdee |
| 18:34.02 | seanbright | what's going on with my developer brethren today? |
| 18:34.57 | ctooley | seanbright, life |
| 18:34.59 | putnopvut | seanbright: oh you know. the usual. wild orgies. |
| 18:35.03 | putnopvut | rampant drinking |
| 18:35.07 | putnopvut | too many drugs to count. |
| 18:35.12 | seanbright | and speaking of developer brethren... i stopped @ starbucks a couple hours ago, and a guy in there had his laptop |
| 18:35.22 | putnopvut | what a jackass! |
| 18:35.24 | jtodd | Orgies? You too? I thought it was only Marketing that did that. |
| 18:35.25 | putnopvut | oh you weren't done. |
| 18:35.28 | seanbright | i looked over his shoulder... he was writing ASM in visual studio 2008 |
| 18:35.44 | seanbright | poor bastard |
| 18:36.05 | jsmith | seanbright: Awful... absolutely awful. |
| 18:36.35 | seanbright | but i was impressed that he was writing asm at all |
| 18:36.39 | seanbright | regardless of chosen platform |
| 18:36.50 | seanbright | every line had a comment, so i think he must be in school or something |
| 18:37.04 | jsmith | seanbright: Yup... if you comment your ASM, you're *definitely* in school |
| 18:37.19 | seanbright | well, if you comment *every* line, yeah. |
| 18:37.22 | seanbright | that's a rookie move |
| 18:37.42 | seanbright | of course, i don't know asm, so i can't bust his balls too much |
| 18:44.18 | putnopvut | Yeah, when I wrote assembly in school, I was an every-line-commenter. |
| 18:44.40 | jsmith | So was I... until I learned better |
| 18:44.50 | jsmith | You comment the things that an average programmer wouldn't grok |
| 18:45.00 | jsmith | (or it would take them some time to grok) |
| 18:45.18 | putnopvut | Right. comment a block of code with a high-level explanation of what's happening. |
| 18:45.22 | jsmith | Like one of my professors used to say... "Use comments as guide posts, not mile markers" |
| 18:47.12 | kpfleming | x = 0; // set x to zero |
| 18:47.26 | putnopvut | kpfleming: yeah that was the sort of crap that would be all over my asm |
| 18:47.55 | putnopvut | Oddly enough, my problem when writing C++ in school was to use nearly no comments at all. |
| 18:48.22 | kpfleming | the best thing is to write perl without comments... because then you'll never figure out what it does |
| 18:49.07 | putnopvut | I wonder if esoteric languages like whitespace and chef support comments or if they intentionally don't to make the language more cryptic. |
| 18:50.35 | tzafrir_laptop | putnopvut, anything not a whitespace is a comment in Whitespace? |
| 18:50.54 | putnopvut | tzafrir_laptop: perhaps...or maybe a syntax error. |
| 18:52.28 | ctooley | kpfleming, Perl's perfectly readable. You just have to be a perl interpreter. |
| 18:53.09 | kpfleming | readable != understandable |
| 18:53.14 | kpfleming | i can read french |
| 18:53.19 | kpfleming | i can't understand it |
| 18:53.31 | seanbright | perl is "expressive" |
| 18:53.39 | seanbright | unless !expressive; |
| 18:53.44 | tzafrir_laptop | depends how you write it |
| 18:53.58 | jsmith | Like any language... parts of it are very clear, and parts are black magic |
| 18:58.00 | tzafrir_laptop | well, with asm you may need to comment many lines, as you can't really use meaningful variable names |
| 18:59.26 | tzafrir_laptop | anyway, what would it take to have asterisk start generate DTMF tones on the DTMF down event? |
| 18:59.43 | tzafrir_laptop | rather than on the ending DTMF up event? |
| 19:00.14 | putnopvut | One of these days, I'm going to just look at all the logic in the code involving DTMF so I can actually answer questions about it. |
| 19:00.50 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: and on that day, the code will change |
| 19:02.00 | kpfleming | umm.. it does start generating on the down (start) event |
| 19:02.06 | kpfleming | that's how variable length DTMF works |
| 19:02.06 | tzafrir_laptop | the problem is that the instruction from asterisk to silense the dtmf comes too late, after a bit more than 40ms of tone were played |
| 19:02.17 | kpfleming | we can't do much about that |
| 19:02.33 | kpfleming | it takes time to recognize it and to get communicated to the channel driver |
| 19:03.30 | tzafrir_laptop | so at the remote end I can hear a short blip, some silence (until I release the button) and then a slightly longer DTMF |
| 19:07.08 | tzanger | the only thing you could really do is do the detect/mute in hardware, it'd be faster but still possible to get short blips |
| 19:08.32 | tzafrir_laptop | you can't detect it before 40ms have passed |
| 19:08.50 | tzafrir_laptop | And with Zaptel, you can't buffer such a thing |
| 19:09.45 | De_Mon | when I dial our exchange server (transport=tcp,promiscredir=yes) and it does not redirect to an alternate port, the call can be successfully routed back through asterisk to the context specified... But, when a promiscredir is used, and the call is referred back it tries to go into sip.conf's general context. |
| 19:10.43 | De_Mon | I think it's a bug in the handling of the temporarly moved response |
| 19:13.04 | putnopvut | De_Mon: what Asterisk version? I fixed a problem recently with promiscredir and TCP connections. |
| 19:16.30 | putnopvut | De_Mon: it was issue 13523 |
| 19:16.32 | putnopvut | M13523 |
| 19:16.35 | MuffinMan | [closed] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/General 0013523: Trouble with Temporarily Moved reported by mattdarnell (Karma: +0.50) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13523 |
| 19:16.53 | De_Mon | putnopvut 1.6.0.0 with a patch you pointed me to last week |
| 19:17.22 | putnopvut | ah, the patch I pointed you to is probably exactly what I'm referring to here, too. Sorry I had already pointed you there. My mistake. |
| 19:18.01 | De_Mon | it fixed part of the problem, but now I'm seeing it didn't fix the whole problem. |
| 19:18.35 | De_Mon | I'm comparing the two calls core debug, to see if that tells me anything. |
| 19:25.14 | De_Mon | can I redirect debug messages for a module (chan_sip) to a file? |
| 19:25.30 | putnopvut | De_Mon: yeah, you can configure that in logger.conf |
| 19:25.47 | putnopvut | filename => debug |
| 19:26.02 | putnopvut | Put that in the [logfiles] section |
| 19:26.11 | putnopvut | Then all debug messages will be written to filename. |
| 19:26.24 | putnopvut | The file will be in the logging directory (by default /var/log/asterisk) |
| 19:26.46 | file | raises eyebrow |
| 19:26.55 | putnopvut | file: did I say something wrong? |
| 19:27.01 | file | nope |
| 19:27.04 | putnopvut | phew |
| 19:27.09 | file | my client was flashing and I wanted to stop it ^_^ |
| 19:27.36 | putnopvut | a female client? If so, I wouldn't have stopped that unless she had chest hair or something. |
| 19:28.06 | De_Mon | file file file |
| 19:28.31 | De_Mon | what would I need to reload after updating logger.conf? |
| 19:29.07 | De_Mon | nevermind, the file tells me |
| 19:32.46 | file | fortunately it does not get my attention when my eyes are not on this screen |
| 19:36.03 | De_Mon | no muffin for you then |
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| 19:45.21 | De_Mon | ugh, I still have no idea how to describe this. |
| 20:01.00 | De_Mon | APPLICATION ERROR #2200 : Could not find a tag with that name. |
| 20:01.20 | De_Mon | I got that error when uploading a file, yet the file uploaded successfully |
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| 20:01.31 | jmls | hey gguys |
| 20:02.01 | jmls | I know I've asked this before - but what library is required to be installed for iksemel.h to be available ? |
| 20:02.16 | russellb | libiksemel |
| 20:02.17 | russellb | :-p |
| 20:02.27 | jmls | really ? |
| 20:02.31 | jmls | blushes |
| 20:03.09 | russellb | yep |
| 20:03.58 | jmls | and where the hell would I download that from for Centos 5 ? Or is it a yum package with a strange name ? |
| 20:04.13 | jsmith | jmls: I think it's in EPEL |
| 20:04.25 | jmls | ... ? |
| 20:04.43 | russellb | google! |
| 20:05.04 | russellb | "EPEL" in google, "i'm feeling lucky" |
| 20:05.12 | russellb | search a little bit :-p |
| 20:05.14 | jsmith | jmls: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL |
| 20:05.22 | jmls | smacks /me hard |
| 20:05.29 | jsmith | jmls: Basically, a repository of Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux |
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| 20:15.49 | eliel | jmls, or you can download the sources, and compile it. |
| 20:30.51 | jmls | eliel: I was trying that, but kept getting a syntax error |
| 20:31.01 | jmls | during the ./configure |
| 20:33.57 | jmls | well, waddya know. rm -rf iksemel-1.3. untar it again, ./configure now works ;) |
| 20:39.55 | jmls | ooooh. |
| 20:40.14 | jmls | I guess I shouldn't see a egmentation fault on startup of asterisk ? |
| 20:40.15 | jmls | ;) |
| 20:40.24 | jmls | (segmentation) |
| 20:40.36 | jmls | just after res_crypto.so |
| 20:41.00 | tzafrir_laptop | it's the next module |
| 20:41.08 | tzafrir_laptop | strace can help |
| 20:41.31 | jmls | res_features |
| 20:42.09 | putnopvut | a res_features crash at startup? yikes. |
| 20:43.11 | jmls | rebuilding with DONT_OPTIMIZE .. |
| 20:43.16 | jmls | :( |
| 20:45.34 | jmls | oh, yikes |
| 20:45.48 | jmls | crashes reading extensions.conf now |
| 20:50.44 | putnopvut | wtf? |
| 20:51.23 | jmls | yeah, my thoughts exactly |
| 20:54.34 | jmls | mmm |
| 20:55.35 | jmls | pbx_load_config ("extensions.conf") cfg= ... end = 0x35bb2a25 <Address 0x35bb2a25 is out of bounds> |
| 20:57.02 | putnopvut | jmls: what version of Asterisk is this? |
| 20:57.09 | jmls | 1.4 latest svn |
| 20:57.42 | jmls | I am running centos 5.2 on a vm .. experimental purposes only :) |
| 21:00.15 | jmls | wtf. It works now |
| 21:00.27 | jmls | .... |
| 21:00.35 | jmls | kicks the computer |
| 21:00.43 | jmls | break, damn you ! |
| 21:06.04 | Deeewayne | Corydon76-dig: ping |
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| 21:38.57 | lmadsen | jmls: I've been having that problem too... issue I can reproduce on the customers machine I can't reproduce on my VM |
| 22:02.56 | putnopvut | I'm not sure if this is just me that is experiencing this, or if it is something buggy in whatever e-mail client Russell has been using the past day or so, but all of his replies on -dev are causing threading problems in Thunderbird. His replies aren't being placed with the other messages in the thread. |
| 22:03.31 | Qwell | putnopvut: probably everybodys favorite web email client.. |
| 22:03.47 | lmadsen | hotmail?! |
| 22:03.48 | lmadsen | :) |
| 22:04.11 | putnopvut | Qwell: ugh |
| 22:04.11 | Qwell | the other crappy search engine |
| 22:05.12 | lmadsen | lycos? |
| 22:05.54 | Qwell | yes. |
| 22:06.18 | lmadsen | lol |
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| 22:17.48 | Schmooze | Qwell, thanks for sending that ex foanlity employee over to me. Seems like a nice guy. Might fit well with us. |
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| 22:49.37 | jameswf | thinks a certain ex fonality employee is still a member of the trixbox sf |
| 22:49.51 | jameswf | shows a bit of honesty :) |
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| 22:57.16 | Corydon76-dig | Deeewayne: pong |
| 23:00.10 | Deeewayne | Corydon76-dig: thanks. I was just wondering about the use of a channel variable versus application argument for say, app_blah |
| 23:01.01 | Deeewayne | the argument may require 80 characters containing whitespace and I was going to ask if you thought that is too long for an app arg and if you thought a channel variable would be more appropriate in that case |
| 23:01.55 | Corydon76-dig | Deeewayne: never |
| 23:02.23 | Corydon76-dig | We're really trying to get away from the use of setting channel variables that influence applications |
| 23:02.33 | Corydon76-dig | If anything, use a dialplan function |
| 23:03.15 | kpfleming | this is app_fax, which got merged into addons and then trunk using a channel variable for this purpose (and others) |
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| 23:03.21 | kpfleming | somebody was bad :-) |
| 23:03.45 | Corydon76-dig | See CURLOPT for one possible example |
| 23:03.58 | Deeewayne | ok, thanks |
| 23:04.06 | Corydon76-dig | CURLOPT influences the operation of CURL, another dialplan function |
| 23:04.31 | Corydon76-dig | and for values that you want inheritable, simply store in a datastore, because datastores are inheritable |
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