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| 00:49.30 | JunK-Y | how ppl think a MAC is a char[11]??! |
| 00:57.37 | CGMChris | I am sorry to post in here but I am a programmer, and I seem to have a problem that cannot be solved in the other rooms (however trivial it seems). Can someone take a few moments to assist me? |
| 00:58.11 | Corydon76-dig | CGMChris: don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 00:58.43 | CGMChris | My call queue's do not ring indefinately, but instead go directly to voicemail if even a single agent is offline or otherwise unavailable. I can't seem to get a straight answer from anyone else... I just need pointed in the right direction. |
| 00:59.55 | jsmith | What do you have in your queues? |
| 01:00.03 | jsmith | Dynamic queue members? |
| 01:00.20 | jsmith | (In other words, is the member something like Local/123@some-context?) |
| 01:00.27 | CGMChris | member = Agent/1001 |
| 01:00.31 | CGMChris | and so on and so forth... 5 of them |
| 01:01.18 | CGMChris | strategy = ringall, timeout = 15, wrapuptime = 0, joinempty = yes, leavewhenempty = no, maxlen = 0 |
| 01:01.26 | seanbright | pastebin your extensions.conf that calls the queue app and your queues.conf file |
| 01:01.30 | seanbright | ~pb |
| 01:01.30 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 01:04.23 | CGMChris | http://pastebin.com/d3fccffe0 |
| 01:06.00 | CGMChris | To reproduce the problem, I dial 5000 on any phone and it goes directly to the voicemail box of the first unavailable/busy/offline agent. |
| 01:06.47 | jsmith | Using AgentLogin or AgentCallbackLogin? |
| 01:06.56 | jsmith | (certainly sounds like AgentCallbackLogin to me) |
| 01:08.17 | CGMChris | Let me see |
| 01:08.39 | CGMChris | It's whatever the web gui does, thats the only way i have logged any agent in/out |
| 01:09.49 | CGMChris | Should I try manually loggin in/out with a specific method on the phone? |
| 01:13.33 | CGMChris | AgentLogin and AgentCallBackLogin are not in any of my config files. |
| 01:15.10 | CGMChris | I am running the latest version of the web gui, so I assume it would not use a deprecated function. |
| 01:15.32 | jsmith | Well, it's probably using the manager interface to add the members |
| 01:15.54 | jsmith | The problem is, it's adding the extension that rolls to voicemail |
| 01:15.59 | jsmith | What you need is extensions (most likely in a different context) that *don't* roll to voicemail |
| 01:16.31 | jsmith | And log those extensions in as the various agents |
| 01:16.36 | jsmith | Does that make sense? |
| 01:17.21 | seanbright | blames bkruse |
| 01:18.30 | CGMChris | It does, however, it raises the issue of directing multiple extensions to the same physical phone. As long as I can do that I will be in good shape. |
| 01:19.42 | jsmith | You can absolutely do that |
| 01:19.50 | jsmith | (not sure how to do that in the GUI, but it's absolutely possible) |
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| 01:22.14 | *** topic/#asterisk-dev is Asterisk Development Discussion -=- http://www.asterisk.org/developers -=- Asterisk trunk: res_telepathy release tomorrow -=- Tier 2 and Tier 3.141593 support is in #asterisk -=- Congrats -dev on the release of 1.6.0 ! |
| 01:22.16 | jsmith | OK... just so you know, this probably isn't the right channel to ask questions that don't pertain to the C code |
| 01:22.30 | jsmith | But find me in #asterisk-doc if you get lost, and I'll be happy to give you a hand |
| 01:22.39 | CGMChris | I understand... I'll make it up to you after I get this working by contributing to development. |
| 01:22.52 | file | was not aware that jsmith was in the market of giving out hands... |
| 01:22.55 | CGMChris | Thanks again. |
| 01:23.10 | file | jsmith: diversify eh |
| 01:23.11 | jsmith | No worries! |
| 01:23.18 | jsmith | file: My hands are big enough to share ;-) |
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| 01:41.23 | seanbright | wow |
| 01:41.26 | seanbright | and stay out! |
| 01:41.27 | seanbright | heh |
| 01:42.57 | jsmith | Wow... |
| 02:07.10 | mog | what did uTx do? |
| 02:07.19 | Qwell | got me |
| 02:07.56 | mog | didnt say anything in #asterisk as far as i cna see either |
| 02:08.04 | mog | citats, what did uTx do? |
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| 06:12.55 | nicox_ | hi |
| 06:13.03 | nicox_ | anyone there? |
| 06:14.23 | nicox_ | i will try asterisk 1.6 on 2 high load ss7-machines with libss7. but before i can do this update i need a bug fixed. |
| 06:14.27 | nicox_ | can anyone help me to fix this bug? |
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| 07:27.27 | wedhorn | mvanbaak: ping |
| 07:28.14 | mvanbaak | yo |
| 07:28.23 | wedhorn | how's things |
| 07:28.42 | wedhorn | notice you've been busy, but thought I might prod you re skinny |
| 07:30.39 | mvanbaak | things are ok |
| 07:30.45 | mvanbaak | busy at home, busy at work :) |
| 07:46.06 | nicox | hi again |
| 08:11.59 | tzafrir_laptop | any idea where I can find an on-line copy of the license that is showed at the bug-tracker? |
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| 08:21.00 | easycrypt | hi - small question: why are there 2 methods of sending frames from a channel to asterisk (read and ast_queue_frame)? |
| 08:21.48 | easycrypt | what's the advantage of using queue_frame? (since read doesn't seem to be implemented in any recent 1.4 channel driver) |
| 08:42.31 | easycrypt | no one? |
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| 09:27.33 | nicox | anyone there who can give me hints to solve a bug? |
| 09:44.23 | tzafrir_laptop | ~ask |
| 09:44.23 | jbot | ask is, like, Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
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| 11:29.58 | tzafrir_laptop | Wouldn't it be a good idea if res_jabber had debugging disabled by default? |
| 11:30.27 | tzafrir_laptop | You load a module and don't expect it to flood your console |
| 11:32.09 | seanbright | agreed |
| 11:32.20 | seanbright | commit away! |
| 11:32.22 | seanbright | :) |
| 11:32.30 | tzafrir_laptop | wow. after I disabled the flood of debugging dump I see a useful error: |
| 11:32.35 | tzafrir_laptop | ERROR[6728]: res_jabber.c:606 aji_act_hook: JABBER: encryption failure. possible bad password. |
| 11:33.04 | tzafrir_laptop | It still repeats every few seconds and floods my console |
| 11:40.35 | seanbright | fix it |
| 11:40.40 | seanbright | annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd go |
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| 12:08.21 | seanbright | looks at the clock... |
| 12:08.26 | seanbright | O.o |
| 12:09.06 | russellb | g'morning |
| 12:09.12 | seanbright | howdy. |
| 12:09.42 | russellb | back to my normal arrival time |
| 12:09.44 | russellb | :) |
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| 12:09.52 | seanbright | for reals? |
| 12:09.56 | snuff-home | eliel: :P |
| 12:09.59 | seanbright | i thought you got in at 10 |
| 12:10.04 | seanbright | (not being funny) |
| 12:10.27 | eliel | snuff-home: hey, received your last email, I will review the patch asap |
| 12:10.55 | snuff-home | np.. directed pickup i found my error.. spelt argument wrong :P |
| 12:12.29 | russellb | seanbright: nah ... my "normal" schedule is carpooling with my wife. She has to be at work by 7. |
| 12:13.38 | seanbright | ohhh |
| 12:13.39 | seanbright | nice |
| 12:13.46 | seanbright | you get to leave earlier too i guess? |
| 12:13.59 | russellb | around 5 |
| 12:14.03 | seanbright | good deal |
| 12:14.08 | eliel | snuff-home: did you validate the core-en_US.xml using appdocsxml.dtd? |
| 12:14.42 | snuff-home | yes yes.. dont worry all patches sent work.. |
| 12:15.02 | snuff-home | 18:26 ~/opensource/appsdoc-asterisk $ make documentation;xml val -d doc/appdocsxml.dtd doc/core-en_US.xml |
| 12:15.04 | snuff-home | Building Documentation For: channels pbx apps codecs formats cdr funcs tests main res |
| 12:15.07 | snuff-home | doc/core-en_US.xml --> /var/lib/asterisk/core-en_US.xml |
| 12:15.08 | eliel | snuff-home: ok |
| 12:15.10 | snuff-home | doc/core-en_US.xml - valid |
| 12:15.33 | snuff-home | the bigger one i sent yest.. should be all ok aside from the directed pickup i resent u just before |
| 12:15.43 | snuff-home | flash and rpt are new |
| 12:16.32 | snuff-home | seanbright: u should see if there are many shadow warnings in res_jabber now most of my mods are over ;) |
| 12:16.44 | snuff-home | in my branch anyway.. |
| 12:17.43 | seanbright | snuff-home: you could just add -Wshadow to your compile line and check yourself :) |
| 12:18.26 | seanbright | russellb: i also didn't see anything in the snom docs last night that would indicate to me that you could show the info for multiple callers to a single exten. |
| 12:18.44 | russellb | nods |
| 12:18.47 | russellb | that's what I figured |
| 12:19.03 | russellb | thanks for looking |
| 12:19.38 | russellb | ... I love getting spam that doesn't seem to be advertising anything or phishing ... |
| 12:19.40 | seanbright | no problem |
| 12:19.43 | russellb | just ... random |
| 12:19.45 | seanbright | will e-mail later |
| 12:19.48 | russellb | kthx |
| 12:26.47 | Juggie | i love looking over my my spam folder and looking at the email subjects now and then |
| 12:27.01 | Juggie | some are quite funny, looked last night i had an email subject: 'turn your hotdog into a french loaf' |
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| 12:54.57 | lmadsen | morning all |
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| 13:26.58 | nicox | hi |
| 13:27.31 | nicox | any idea how i can debug #0013468 ? |
| 13:35.19 | easycrypt | next try: why do we have two ways of sending data from a channel to asterisk - one via "ast_queue_frame" and one via the channels "read" callback? |
| 13:36.43 | russellb | they make sense for different situations ... |
| 13:36.59 | russellb | some channels have a dedicated file descriptor that their data arrives on, which is the case for most channel drivers |
| 13:37.15 | russellb | Others do not, such as chan_iax2, where all audio for all calls arrives on the same socket |
| 13:37.36 | russellb | Also, ast_queue_frame is used by all channel drivers to queue up signaling events |
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| 13:40.23 | easycrypt | ic - so read is called by asterisk when ...? |
| 13:40.40 | easycrypt | hmm.. think i saw somthing about that in the doku... |
| 13:41.47 | easycrypt | some soirt of data_avail flag? |
| 13:43.18 | russellb | read will be called when one of the file descriptors on the channels fd array says that data is available |
| 13:43.50 | easycrypt | ah - ok - thanks :) |
| 13:43.54 | russellb | no problem |
| 13:44.20 | russellb | so, with a SIP channel for example, the channel's fd array has the RTP socket in it |
| 13:44.23 | russellb | so, Asterisk polls on it ... |
| 13:44.44 | russellb | when a packet arrives, asterisk knows data is available, calls ast_read(), which calls the channel technology read(), which then reads the packet from the network |
| 13:45.30 | easycrypt | an when i recieve data from an external application, i can just put that fd into the array, so data is only read, when the app sends some? |
| 13:46.19 | russellb | assuming you're saying that a channel driver is receiving data from another application, then yeah |
| 13:46.29 | easycrypt | yap |
| 13:46.32 | russellb | Asterisk applications don't quite work this way |
| 13:46.32 | russellb | ok |
| 13:46.46 | russellb | may I ask what channel driver you have in mind? :) |
| 13:47.17 | easycrypt | an adaption of chan_local to use an external app to encrypt or decrypt voice data |
| 13:47.33 | russellb | Interesting. |
| 13:54.13 | russellb | chan_local is a scary place |
| 13:54.30 | russellb | we _may_ be able to come up with another approach if you start a discussion about what you want to do on the asterisk-dev mailing list |
| 13:58.05 | easycrypt | chan_local sort of is scary - but not all that bad - i might take chan_nbs as a basis tough and just add functionaity to support lookback dialing from there |
| 13:59.38 | easycrypt | another place to implement such a feature would be the dial application - but that's a piece of code, i really don't want to tough - mostly because i would have to keep it up to date to changes in the original dial app - and support all it's features -- so that's a no-go |
| 13:59.53 | russellb | something else you might want to look at is the audiohooks API |
| 14:00.03 | russellb | it lets you hook into the audio path of a channel ... |
| 14:00.11 | russellb | and there are different modes, one of which is "manipulate" |
| 14:00.17 | russellb | which lets you modify the audio stream as it passes through |
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| 14:00.42 | russellb | sounds like it might fit |
| 14:01.32 | easycrypt | but that would really limit my posibilities to messing with the audo... if i should go public key encryption and something fails, it might be kind of hard to get the channel to hang up |
| 14:01.48 | russellb | hmm ... |
| 14:02.18 | russellb | yeah, I don't think there is currently a way for an audiohook to indicate a critical failure |
| 14:02.24 | russellb | though I do not suspect that it would be too hard to add |
| 14:03.20 | easycrypt | though about the possibilites for over a week now - and think i got hung on the idea of a small/lean loopback proxy channel |
| 14:04.41 | easycrypt | esp. with the fd info now - so i can just pass all my voice frames to the external app on .write and then have the result back with .read with the fd of the external app |
| 14:06.48 | russellb | k :) |
| 14:07.25 | easycrypt | but i'll most certainly be back here, when more questions arise ;) |
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| 14:36.54 | anonymouz666 | russellb: do you know if there's a patch on mantis about app_bridge in asterisk 1.4? I saw the history of 12711.. maybe you know if there's something for 1.4 |
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| 14:39.46 | russellb | i know nothing |
| 14:46.42 | anonymouz666 | just applied the bridge-trunk-rev-49865.patch |
| 14:46.44 | anonymouz666 | seems to work |
| 14:46.48 | anonymouz666 | thanks anyway |
| 14:47.30 | anonymouz666 | no it doesn't, nevermind :-) |
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| 14:50.27 | nicox | i'll try it again, i need help on the bug #0013468 , any hints where to start debugging? |
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| 15:53.26 | nicox | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.42 | lmadsen | M13468 |
| 15:53.45 | MuffinMan | [feedback] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_iax2 0013468: IAX Transfer/releasing between 3 asterisk's are not working. reported by nicox (Karma: -1.75) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13468 |
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| 17:02.45 | jameswf | Anyone wanna take a stab at the size of the asterisk userbase |
| 17:02.59 | Qwell | jameswf: There are at least 10 or 12 users |
| 17:03.15 | jameswf | think that many? |
| 17:03.28 | jameswf | so only people you know :) |
| 17:04.12 | jameswf | someone should really write a phone home module cough |
| 17:04.38 | Qwell | jameswf: somebody has |
| 17:04.42 | Qwell | grins |
| 17:05.13 | Qwell | hmm |
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| 17:22.42 | mvanbaak | there are 10 users, one that does not use asterisk and one that does :) |
| 17:23.38 | mvanbaak | is jtodd there ? |
| 17:33.12 | jameswf | perhaps somone could do something like http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ for asterisk |
| 17:36.47 | mvanbaak | btw, anyone should login to the mailinglist admin pages and remove the 'astricon 2008, register now' stuff from the footer |
| 17:36.56 | mvanbaak | s/anyone/someone/ |
| 17:41.23 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: gheh, you really made sure that ppl cannot miss the SENTINEL constant |
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| 17:52.36 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: I've missed that before, so it was appropriate to show it out |
| 17:54.13 | mvanbaak | I know ;) |
| 17:54.33 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: I've been going through an overhaul of the APIs used in the realtime engine |
| 17:54.52 | Corydon76-dig | 2 more to go: sqlite and mysql |
| 17:54.55 | Qwell | mvanbaak: it's being fixed now |
| 17:55.05 | Qwell | (re: lists) |
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| 18:06.24 | mvanbaak | Qwell: thanks |
| 18:06.34 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: I looked at the commit yeah |
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| 18:35.31 | mvanbaak | hey lmadsen |
| 18:35.36 | lmadsen | hey hey |
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| 18:36.06 | mvanbaak | <--- fighting with 'help' -> 'core show help' |
| 18:39.08 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: really? yuck :( |
| 18:39.25 | mvanbaak | ACK! forget to disable sounds again |
| 18:39.56 | mvanbaak | ok, I want to change something |
| 18:40.09 | mvanbaak | ./configure --enable-dev-mode should disable the sounds ! |
| 18:40.20 | hardwire | lazy |
| 18:40.25 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 18:40.31 | hardwire | whine whine whine |
| 18:40.40 | hardwire | is having a slow starting day |
| 18:41.04 | mvanbaak | gheh, the sounds is horrible, specially when wget stalls |
| 18:41.20 | lmadsen | slow? everyone I've talked to has found the day flying by |
| 18:41.47 | hardwire | my workstation pooped itself |
| 18:41.54 | hardwire | I was told I was late to a meeting that never existed |
| 18:42.15 | hardwire | the only fast part of my day is reloading ubuntu from the local repository |
| 18:42.50 | hardwire | can you set reinvite capabilities in the dialplan? |
| 18:43.18 | hardwire | there needs to be an asterisk grimoire |
| 18:43.36 | hardwire | do not say "it's in the code" |
| 18:43.54 | hardwire | I'll hunt you down and stab you with my cheap ass sangoma screwdriver shwag |
| 18:44.18 | mvanbaak | no |
| 18:44.42 | mvanbaak | and I'll fight back with the same tool |
| 18:45.09 | hardwire | hoo ha hooa! |
| 18:45.12 | mvanbaak | that screwdriver was really worth my trip to Phoenix |
| 18:45.24 | lmadsen | I have a digium screwdriver |
| 18:45.25 | hardwire | mine has a crack in it |
| 18:45.30 | lmadsen | it has +50 power over the sangoma |
| 18:45.39 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:45.41 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 18:45.49 | hardwire | apparently we all need to be in RPG land today |
| 18:45.55 | hardwire | cause yeh.. 4rd channel today |
| 18:45.56 | mvanbaak | mine ate a bunch of schrooms that were labeled 1UP |
| 18:45.58 | hardwire | 3rd |
| 18:46.08 | lmadsen | 4rd! |
| 18:46.15 | hardwire | don't you dare pick on me |
| 18:46.20 | lmadsen | I just did |
| 18:46.28 | hardwire | how dare you! |
| 18:46.38 | mvanbaak | he's lmadsen |
| 18:46.42 | mvanbaak | he's fearless |
| 18:46.58 | lmadsen | and I can't be killed by conventional weapons either |
| 18:47.27 | putnopvut | But you can be killed by high-speed spaghetti. |
| 18:47.42 | mvanbaak | and by a flawed DTD |
| 18:47.46 | hardwire | I wanna know what that's in reference too. |
| 18:48.17 | putnopvut | what, the spaghetti or DTD? |
| 18:48.24 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 18:48.24 | putnopvut | I just made up the spaghetti thing. |
| 18:48.29 | hardwire | spaghetti |
| 18:48.33 | hardwire | awww |
| 18:48.36 | Qwell | FSM? |
| 18:48.44 | hardwire | HS-FSM |
| 18:48.46 | putnopvut | he'll kill you with eye-lasers. |
| 18:48.55 | putnopvut | which are very conventional weapons. |
| 18:49.14 | hardwire | I need somebody to whack the shit out of me today |
| 18:49.29 | hardwire | my lungs hurt |
| 18:49.47 | mvanbaak | stop smoking |
| 18:49.59 | hardwire | makes an appointment with Happy Endings Massage Co Ltd. |
| 18:50.25 | hardwire | mvanbaak: no u stop' |
| 18:52.55 | mvanbaak | why? my lungs are fine |
| 18:58.56 | JunK-Y | mvanbaak: can i kiss you again? :P |
| 18:59.19 | lmadsen | o.O |
| 19:00.47 | mvanbaak | JunK-Y: sure, no problem sweety |
| 19:01.30 | JunK-Y | ;) |
| 19:02.00 | mvanbaak | puts his laptop bag on the floor right where JunK-Y has to trip over it to land on mvanbaak's lap |
| 19:02.03 | JunK-Y | its like xmlParseMemory() (from libxml2) is leaking. |
| 19:02.22 | JunK-Y | it was just an excuse you know :P |
| 19:02.51 | mvanbaak | like I didn't know |
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| 19:12.48 | JunK-Y | haaha |
| 19:13.26 | JunK-Y | on our next user group, im gonna present the cli alias. |
| 19:14.42 | mvanbaak | cool |
| 19:14.59 | mvanbaak | it's good that we have the 'help=core show help' alias |
| 19:15.32 | mvanbaak | new users wont be: "aaaaah sure, stupid me! help is part of the core and I want to show it on the CLI so of course it's 'core show help'" |
| 19:16.15 | Qwell | can you have aliases to aliases? |
| 19:16.39 | mvanbaak | Qwell: yup |
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| 19:17.00 | mvanbaak | Qwell: an alias is registered as a seperate CLI command |
| 19:17.58 | JunK-Y | im sure some1 will ask for a backport to 1.4 :) |
| 19:18.35 | mvanbaak | it just uses ast_cli_register() |
| 19:18.49 | mvanbaak | JunK-Y: that's not going to happen, because it depends on the new loader |
| 19:19.42 | mvanbaak | JunK-Y: btw, did you send a mail to jdixon about the app_rtp and chan_usbradio CLI changes ? |
| 19:21.34 | bkruse | seanbright: it's all my fault! |
| 19:27.55 | JunK-Y | mvanbaak: i forgot, i will do it right now. |
| 19:28.23 | mvanbaak | JunK-Y: no rush. Just a friendly reminder :) |
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| 19:34.59 | seanbright | bkruse: that was a slightly delayed response :) |
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| 19:37.54 | bkruse | seanbright: I was sleeping at the time of the message :P |
| 19:38.40 | seanbright | bkruse: i have my IRC client wired up to an alarm system |
| 19:38.59 | seanbright | couldn't sleep through a private message if i wanted to |
| 19:39.24 | seanbright | (that might be a lie) |
| 19:40.32 | bkruse | seanbright: I am calling lies on your lies. I did fall asleep with my headphones, then had a PM wake me up (more detailed pidgin wake me up) |
| 19:40.34 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: that is so hot |
| 19:40.58 | seanbright | thank you, thank you. |
| 19:41.08 | seanbright | but seriously, sleep is sacred to me. |
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| 19:48.24 | mvanbaak | lmadsen: if you can review the cli_aliases branch that would be great |
| 19:48.29 | mvanbaak | I want to merge it |
| 19:48.44 | lmadsen | I think file still has something he has to do in order to make it load last though |
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| 19:53.32 | mvanbaak | yup |
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| 19:53.58 | mvanbaak | we need that for the 'stop now=core stop now' stuff |
| 19:56.25 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: well its for everything -- just to make sure it is loaded last so that all the aliases are loaded |
| 19:56.54 | mvanbaak | well, everything works on load, cept the 'core stop *' stuff |
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| 20:15.20 | seanbright | async agi is limited to local AGI, yes? |
| 20:16.20 | mvanbaak | as far as I know yes |
| 20:16.48 | seanbright | danke. |
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| 20:31.44 | mvanbaak | file: ping |
| 20:32.06 | file | pong |
| 20:32.26 | mvanbaak | how can we force a module to load after asterisk is fully started ? |
| 20:32.34 | file | you can't. |
| 20:32.52 | mvanbaak | now that explains why I couldn't find it in the code |
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| 20:34.29 | mvanbaak | you have any idea how to handle that ? |
| 20:34.38 | file | the ability has to be added. |
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| 21:01.22 | mvanbaak | the sqlite stuff in asterisk, is that sqlite2 or sqlite3 ? |
| 21:02.54 | Corydon76-dig | 2, I think |
| 21:03.49 | russellb | some of both |
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| 21:05.19 | nicox | hi, i need help on the bug 13468, i will debug it , but at this time i need a point to start |
| 21:05.52 | hardwire | nicox: sweet.. squished a lot o bugs? |
| 21:06.07 | mvanbaak | gheh, the OpenBSD port does not have it |
| 21:06.12 | mvanbaak | 'use odbc' |
| 21:06.49 | hardwire | doh |
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| 21:10.25 | nicox | i think i'm a good tester for libss7, yeah, thats working good, on some points, but there ar some problems too, and i have some ss7-links on asterisk running and i try to get the links a bit more stable, but at this point i need this feature to upgrade the next 4 links |
| 21:10.40 | nicox | (signalling links) |
| 21:28.13 | nicox | thanks for the help, it was a pleasure |
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| 21:39.45 | Corydon76-dig | Is anybody actually using the realtime method "voicemail_data"? |
| 21:41.06 | mvanbaak | I'm not |
| 21:41.07 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 21:41.43 | Corydon76-dig | It's new in 1.6.0 |
| 21:42.03 | Corydon76-dig | and I can't see how it could possibly work, especially for deleting certain messages |
| 21:43.04 | Corydon76-dig | It's assuming that the storage method is returning a record ID, when, in fact, the storage method is returning a number of rows that were affected |
| 21:44.26 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 21:44.37 | mvanbaak | well, you can have clashes there :) |
| 21:44.52 | mvanbaak | two results, resultid 2 |
| 21:45.03 | mvanbaak | that _IS_ possible |
| 21:45.10 | mvanbaak | I have seen code like that before |
| 21:45.20 | Corydon76-dig | Well, when you do a store, you can only get back 1 or 0. |
| 21:45.21 | mvanbaak | not in asterisk, but in covide and other projects |
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| 21:45.36 | Corydon76-dig | Either it inserted a record or it didn't |
| 21:45.42 | mvanbaak | ah |
| 21:45.55 | mvanbaak | will, recordid 1 is valid as well |
| 21:47.02 | mvanbaak | I see this kind of stuff over and over again when ppl develop stuff where you can alter settings for $user, and they only test with their own userid in development |
| 21:47.25 | mvanbaak | so when I test the patch I try to edit $random_user and see my own settings changed |
| 21:48.03 | mvanbaak | it works for the $dev creating the thing, but they only test 1 corner case |
| 21:49.08 | mvanbaak | btw |
| 21:49.17 | mvanbaak | in addons mysql driver there is: |
| 21:49.18 | mvanbaak | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.59 | mvanbaak | 490 or some lines below |
| 21:50.11 | mvanbaak | s/490/line 490/ |
| 21:54.35 | mvanbaak | omg, zsh has autocomplete on 'svn co https://origsvn.digium.com/svn/<TAB>' |
| 21:57.35 | putnopvut | wow, that's awesome. |
| 21:57.45 | mvanbaak | uhhuh |
| 21:57.59 | russellb | i bet someone has done it for bash, too |
| 21:58.00 | mvanbaak | ah, I dont have svn commit access to addons |
| 21:58.45 | mvanbaak | russellb: yeah, prolly. but it's in the base zsh package, which is pretty awesome |
| 21:58.47 | putnopvut | codefreeze-lap: ping |
| 21:59.45 | russellb | mvanbaak: yes, that is quite hot |
| 21:59.58 | mvanbaak | can you open up -addons for me ? |
| 22:00.03 | russellb | yep |
| 22:00.05 | russellb | one sec |
| 22:00.16 | mvanbaak | sure |
| 22:00.18 | mvanbaak | no rush |
| 22:00.39 | mvanbaak | just some 's/PostgreSQL/MySQL/' fixes I want to get in |
| 22:00.45 | russellb | done |
| 22:01.16 | codefreeze-lap | putnopvut: pong? |
| 22:01.46 | mvanbaak | cool, thanks |
| 22:01.48 | mvanbaak | fixed :) |
| 22:04.51 | mvanbaak | WOW |
| 22:04.58 | mvanbaak | houses in huntsville are CHEAP ! |
| 22:06.07 | putnopvut | Yeah, how do you think someone like me can afford one? ;) |
| 22:07.40 | mvanbaak | http://www.valleymls.com/(g4ueyxji312zwm55sqxlut55)/propertyDetails.aspx?mls=273518&sitecode=MC3718 |
| 22:07.59 | mvanbaak | for that amount of money you buy a parking lot for your car here in .nl |
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| 22:09.43 | putnopvut | mvanbaak: Only 1 bathroom. That's a bit of a bad spot. |
| 22:09.45 | mvanbaak | gheh, with the current dollar rate make that line: _IF_ you are lucky ! |
| 22:10.07 | mvanbaak | putnopvut: yeah, but compared to prices in holland |
| 22:10.39 | putnopvut | Yeah, I imagine that land is very expensive there. |
| 22:10.47 | mvanbaak | I just payed 225.000 USD for 80 square meters. on 1st floor. 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, a livingroom and a kitchen |
| 22:11.02 | seanbright | this is pretty sexy: http://www.apstel.com/products/vdp/screenshots.php |
| 22:11.44 | mvanbaak | seanbright: is there an OpenBSD port ? |
| 22:11.46 | seanbright | disclaimer: seanbright is in no way affiliated with apstel |
| 22:11.56 | mvanbaak | seanbright: well, it |
| 22:11.58 | seanbright | mvanbaak: no, it only runs on modern operating systems... |
| 22:12.01 | seanbright | giggles |
| 22:12.06 | mvanbaak | seanbright: well, it _IS_ .NET |
| 22:12.08 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 22:12.13 | putnopvut | seanbright: that does look neat, but can you imagine what a real dialplan would look like? |
| 22:12.17 | putnopvut | The horror! |
| 22:12.27 | seanbright | putnopvut: yeah, would be scary. |
| 22:12.44 | russellb | visual programming of dataflow is actually a very powerful paradigm ... |
| 22:12.49 | russellb | maps well to dialplan design, IMO |
| 22:13.02 | mvanbaak | putnopvut: http://www.funda.nl/WoningAanbod/Koop/Detail/Fotos/?id=4b6fa674-18fa-4ae4-9fa7-f8e00426ccef&objecttype=DetailKoopObject |
| 22:13.04 | seanbright | slaps the GTK api reference out of russellb's hand |
| 22:13.09 | mvanbaak | putnopvut: that's the house I bought |
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| 22:13.44 | putnopvut | mvanbaak: Let me find the flickr page with my house pics. |
| 22:13.50 | mvanbaak | putnopvut: ignore the dutch text, just click on the photo's |
| 22:13.58 | seanbright | we could have a flash app for building dialplans |
| 22:14.08 | russellb | seanbright: sure ... |
| 22:14.20 | putnopvut | mvanbaak: http://www.flickr.com/photos/17281931@N04/sets/72157604063612308/ |
| 22:14.32 | putnopvut | That's my house, but before the old owner moved out. So not my decorations or furniture. |
| 22:14.46 | russellb | and you add ways to create abstractions ... you write something kind of like a macro, and that can be represented as a single block on another document |
| 22:14.57 | seanbright | right |
| 22:15.01 | seanbright | twould be sexy |
| 22:15.04 | russellb | indeed. |
| 22:15.07 | russellb | starts coding |
| 22:15.08 | russellb | heh, not |
| 22:15.09 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:15.22 | russellb | but anyway, just saying that i agree that the idea is quite cool. |
| 22:15.26 | russellb | have a nice night, folks |
| 22:15.46 | dexpdx | Anyone here used the perl AMI and or AGI apis on cpan? |
| 22:15.51 | mvanbaak | putnopvut: what's with the DELL box ? |
| 22:16.13 | putnopvut | I told you, that stuff's not mine :) |
| 22:16.17 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 22:16.45 | seanbright | dexpdx: yes... but your follow-up question probably belongs in #asterisk and not here. |
| 22:16.58 | putnopvut | mvanbaak: what does "geen" translate to in English? |
| 22:17.36 | dexpdx | well, the next point I was going to bring - is that I don't really like them and I'm going start building a new api that will handle both agi and ami |
| 22:17.47 | seanbright | dexpdx: awesome |
| 22:17.49 | dexpdx | I'm having a little trouble figuring out how I wanted to structure it |
| 22:17.59 | dexpdx | being ami and agi chare some "commands" |
| 22:18.04 | seanbright | dexpdx: ah. you just missed russellb. he is working on something like that right now. |
| 22:18.10 | seanbright | dexpdx: at least the core pieces. |
| 22:18.15 | dexpdx | in perl? |
| 22:18.21 | seanbright | dexpdx: no, in C. |
| 22:18.23 | dexpdx | ah |
| 22:18.24 | seanbright | within asterisk itself |
| 22:18.33 | seanbright | looks for the branch name... |
| 22:18.46 | dexpdx | like a libasterisk c api? |
| 22:18.49 | dexpdx | that's cool |
| 22:19.13 | seanbright | http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/team/russell/events2/ |
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| 22:19.27 | mvanbaak_ | sorry |
| 22:19.32 | mvanbaak_ | stupid irc |
| 22:19.33 | kpfleming | no, that's something else |
| 22:19.43 | seanbright | sigh. |
| 22:19.45 | kpfleming | API work is being done by the working group from the devcon |
| 22:19.48 | seanbright | why don't people just correct me up front? |
| 22:19.49 | mvanbaak_ | putnopvut: "geen geld" == "no money" |
| 22:19.54 | seanbright | instead of letting me talk and talk and talk? |
| 22:19.54 | mvanbaak_ | basically it's a denial of the word following it |
| 22:19.55 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:20.17 | dexpdx | kpfleming: what sort of work, I don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't need to |
| 22:20.25 | seanbright | looks for the branch |
| 22:20.25 | putnopvut | mvanbaak_: ah, okay. I just saw that word whenever I would hover over a picture. |
| 22:20.42 | dexpdx | the perl support for agi and ami is cludgy so I wanted to bring in some of the nice stuff from moose (meta object system) |
| 22:20.55 | kpfleming | go read the documentation on astridevcon.pbwiki.com |
| 22:20.55 | mvanbaak_ | putnopvut: ah, that means: 'geen titel' == "no title" |
| 22:21.08 | mvanbaak_ | the devcon was awesome |
| 22:21.17 | mvanbaak_ | some really cool ideas |
| 22:21.34 | seanbright | kpfleming: where would one find el brancho? |
| 22:21.57 | mvanbaak_ | I think the CLI team was the only group to come with actual code ;) |
| 22:21.59 | mvanbaak_ | hides |
| 22:22.13 | kpfleming | right, there is no branch yet |
| 22:22.16 | seanbright | oh |
| 22:22.43 | seanbright | is the API work happening in the open? i haven't seen anything floating about. |
| 22:22.50 | mvanbaak | but our goal was set to something that could be done in 2 to 3 days |
| 22:22.54 | mvanbaak | and we pulled it off |
| 22:23.07 | kpfleming | there is no coding work going on yet |
| 22:23.16 | mvanbaak | pinemango is not going to happen in a weekend |
| 22:23.16 | seanbright | i got that |
| 22:23.20 | seanbright | the discussion i mean |
| 22:23.46 | mvanbaak | seanbright: http://astridevcon.pbwiki.com |
| 22:24.10 | seanbright | mvanbaak: i see that, but i don't see anything i didn't see last week |
| 22:24.20 | mvanbaak | and there's the -dev mailinglist of course :) |
| 22:24.35 | seanbright | mvanbaak: cool, what thread? |
| 22:24.48 | mvanbaak | seanbright: I think ppl are just recovering from a week away from their desk |
| 22:25.04 | file | just got home at 1:30AM |
| 22:25.14 | mvanbaak | I know I had a SHITLOAD of work once I got back to work |
| 22:25.23 | seanbright | ohhhh, ok, i was confused |
| 22:25.34 | Corydon76-dig | file: it's 1:30 am? |
| 22:25.39 | seanbright | i was under the impression that work (design or coding or whatever) was currently underway |
| 22:25.43 | seanbright | and i wasn't seeing it |
| 22:25.44 | kpfleming | design |
| 22:25.48 | file | Corydon76-dig: no, but I got home at 1:30AM today |
| 22:25.48 | seanbright | cool |
| 22:25.56 | Corydon76-dig | file: ah |
| 22:25.56 | seanbright | but nothing active |
| 22:25.57 | kpfleming | the discussions on the wiki, and any further discussions on the -dev list |
| 22:26.01 | seanbright | gootcha |
| 22:26.04 | seanbright | -o |
| 22:26.13 | kpfleming | please don't gootch me :-) |
| 22:26.27 | file | kpfleming: maple ketchup! |
| 22:26.27 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, only his wife is allowed to gootch him |
| 22:26.32 | mvanbaak | btw, if you see twilson, tell him the calendar stuff is awesome |
| 22:27.02 | snuff-work | noticed lot of chatter about that |
| 22:27.20 | mvanbaak | because of it I'm implementing ical/webcal support in our product |
| 22:27.21 | mvanbaak | :) |
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| 22:29.16 | file | I summoned twilson! |
| 22:29.31 | mvanbaak | and if you see jtodd tell him to test my latest commits to make OpenBSD+asterisk happy and report back either on the -dev list or in private mail (michiel@vanbaak.info) |
| 22:29.36 | putnopvut | otherwiseguy: mvanbaak says the calendar stuff is awesome. |
| 22:29.53 | mvanbaak | otherwiseguy: 00:26 <@ mvanbaak> btw, if you see twilson, tell him the calendar stuff is awesome |
| 22:30.06 | mvanbaak | otherwiseguy: 00:27 <@ mvanbaak> because of it I'm implementing ical/webcal support in our product |
| 22:30.15 | otherwiseguy | mvanbaak: have you played with it at all? |
| 22:30.29 | mvanbaak | otherwiseguy: just with a zimbra test install |
| 22:30.48 | otherwiseguy | mvanbaak: so it works for more than just me? wow. :-) |
| 22:30.53 | snuff-work | sees app_calendar |
| 22:31.00 | mvanbaak | otherwiseguy: only because Covide does not support icall yet |
| 22:31.40 | mvanbaak | well, we can read ical, but we have no public ical url to read the calendars inside Covide yet |
| 22:32.51 | otherwiseguy | I need to go ahead and implement CalDAV, but zimbra (unsurprisingly) doesn't actually implement a lot of the querying. |
| 22:33.32 | mvanbaak | I dont like zimbla |
| 22:33.49 | mvanbaak | but that might be because we have our own application ;) |
| 22:33.58 | otherwiseguy | But, I have a .mac account and Google account I can test it with, so I should be ok. Luckily, my university hadn't shut off my email account, so I had an Exchange server to test against... |
| 22:34.53 | mvanbaak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covide |
| 22:34.54 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 22:35.15 | mvanbaak | hides |
| 22:36.50 | mvanbaak | ugh, I see the sales monks just ran the dutch text through google translate |
| 22:37.02 | mvanbaak | s/monks/people/ |
| 22:37.05 | mvanbaak | ;) |
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| 22:49.13 | dexpdx | kpfleming: some interesting stuff on asteridevcon wiki, are there plans to implement "hooks" via a http REST api? |
| 22:49.46 | mvanbaak | dexpdx: yes, there are plans |
| 22:49.55 | mvanbaak | but nothing on a stone tablet yet |
| 22:49.56 | dexpdx | because it would interesting from a scaling standpoint to be able to have many load balanced asterisk machines that communicate via http to load balanced application/logic web apps |
| 22:50.36 | mvanbaak | we use a combination of agi and func_odbc for that already |
| 22:51.10 | dexpdx | dumb asterisk machines + master/master database replication + plain ol' http load balancing would make it easier to build an application to handle as many customers as you have hardware |
| 22:51.42 | mvanbaak | you dont have to wait for res_REST for that |
| 22:52.03 | dexpdx | mvanbaak: same here... although I don't use agi very much at this point |
| 22:52.25 | dexpdx | I don't really like fast agi's transport |
| 22:52.39 | dexpdx | from a development side of things |
| 22:52.49 | mvanbaak | so use normal agi |
| 22:53.14 | mvanbaak | local script that uses the local resolver to do stuff |
| 22:53.41 | mvanbaak | let that script do the http/xmlrpc requests, and return the results back to the dialplan |
| 22:54.13 | mvanbaak | we have a 50 line dialplan on all our pbx-en |
| 22:54.32 | dexpdx | how do you handle the translation? |
| 22:54.42 | mvanbaak | what translation ? |
| 22:54.48 | dexpdx | i.e. agi dialplan commands -> xmlrpc and back |
| 22:55.13 | mvanbaak | with Set() |
| 22:55.42 | mvanbaak | Set, HASH and friends on the asterisk side |
| 22:56.04 | mvanbaak | the agi just does the xmlrpc stuff and echo's back some Set statements to asterisk |
| 22:56.11 | dexpdx | hmm |
| 22:57.29 | dexpdx | so the asterisk side of things interprets the variable's set by Set() and then acts accordingly |
| 22:57.32 | dexpdx | ? |
| 22:57.38 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 22:58.16 | mvanbaak | couple of macro's to do that |
| 22:59.06 | snuff-work | macros.. i thought gosubs were the in thing ;) |
| 22:59.30 | dexpdx | snuff-work: hell if know, I just found out about pbx_lua - been using AEL myself |
| 23:00.25 | dexpdx | Well, most of this help me make up my mind on how I want to structure my perl * api stuff |
| 23:00.40 | dexpdx | def seperate into commands, protocol, transport |
| 23:00.50 | snuff-work | ah.. i'm a dialplan pure-ist.. use macro etc.. some calls to db stored prod's etc |
| 23:01.41 | dexpdx | commands define in an abstract way the concept of something like "orignate" protocol would then translate the command into a format (like agi, ami) and transport would handle the different type of develivery mechs (fastagi, agi, ami, ajam) |
| 23:02.13 | dexpdx | the standard asterisk dialplan screws with my A.D.D to much like basic |
| 23:02.30 | dexpdx | I like closures |
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| 23:03.26 | dexpdx | pbx_ecma would be cool |
| 23:03.31 | mvanbaak_ | depends on the version of asterisk ;) |
| 23:03.36 | mvanbaak_ | some of our core swithes in our internal net still run 1.0.9 |
| 23:03.41 | mvanbaak_ | our two main switching hubs are running for 770 days, 5 hours and 12 minutes right now |
| 23:03.42 | dexpdx | yikes |
| 23:03.47 | mvanbaak_ | pushing roughly 500 calls a minute each |
| 23:03.57 | dexpdx | mvanbaak: sip? |
| 23:04.10 | mvanbaak_ | sip and iax |
| 23:04.17 | mvanbaak_ | 50-50 |
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| 23:04.45 | dexpdx | nice, running zap myself don't have the money to see what the upper limit of volume per machine is :) |
| 23:05.04 | dexpdx | switching to h323 early 09 |
| 23:05.16 | mvanbaak_ | ah |
| 23:05.21 | mvanbaak_ | only sip and iax here |
| 23:05.25 | mvanbaak_ | no zap |
| 23:05.40 | mvanbaak_ | we are a pure-ip company |
| 23:05.52 | dexpdx | our upstream local provider offers h323 but the've only used with cisco clients... should be interesting |
| 23:06.14 | mvanbaak_ | and, I'm off to bed |
| 23:06.18 | mvanbaak_ | latero all |
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| 23:57.11 | dexpdx | is 1.6 considered stable or beta? |
| 23:57.50 | snuff-work | 1.6.0 is considered stable.. |
| 23:58.20 | dexpdx | cool |
| 23:58.51 | snuff-work | lot of people would consider it more 'beta' because it has lot of new features that haven't had 1.4.x testing |