| 00:03.33 | jpeeler | the one that handles the editline stuff, although that's running in console mode |
| 00:04.31 | putnopvut | It's going home time. Later, y'all! |
| 00:07.01 | jpeeler | if it helps, it seems to always be listed as thread 1 |
| 00:07.10 | jpeeler | in gdb that is |
| 00:08.13 | russellb | that one isn't going to be listed, ever |
| 00:08.19 | jpeeler | why is that |
| 00:08.31 | jpeeler | is prepared to look dumb |
| 00:08.33 | russellb | In console mode, it will be running at the end of main() of the main asterisk process |
| 00:08.53 | russellb | In remote console mode, it's happening inside of main() of the remote console process |
| 00:09.09 | russellb | maybe not in main(), literally, but the main thread, not one that was created (and got put in the thread list) |
| 00:09.51 | jpeeler | that makes sense then |
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| 02:23.06 | Juggie | hey all |
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| 03:05.21 | paravoid | break <function>? |
| 03:05.37 | JerJer | lets try it |
| 03:11.16 | JerJer | paravoid: sweet - i owe you a beer at astricon :) |
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| 05:59.07 | oej | morning |
| 05:59.14 | Qwell | night |
| 05:59.19 | oej | :-) |
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| 07:32.00 | mvanbaak | mornin |
| 07:32.07 | snuff-work | ello |
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| 10:45.55 | wedhorn | mvanbaak: ping |
| 11:02.04 | mvanbaak | pong |
| 11:07.28 | wedhorn | i just uploaded a small patch to help debugging |
| 11:07.30 | wedhorn | M13344 |
| 11:07.31 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_skinny/NewFeature 0013344: [patch] Adds "skinny show debug" that provides device, line and sub info for debugging purposes. reported by wedhorn (Karma: +12.25) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13344 |
| 11:07.56 | wedhorn | any thoughts on what else would be handy? |
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| 11:17.37 | awk | hmm, 'aloha. wondering if anyone can check this agi output http://www.pastebin.ca/1179539, what happens is a call comes in an delays for ever. an as you can see that blank space, that I believe should be 'li' in there.. so its a delay of 10/50 seconds before it starts ringing on exten. calls from exten to exten works perfectly. |
| 11:18.06 | awk | an this just 'happend' out of the blue, asterisk uptime 84 days |
| 11:18.16 | awk | nothing changed in config. |
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| 11:41.55 | mvanbaak | wedhorn: no idea right now. looks ok to me |
| 11:42.12 | mvanbaak | wedhorn: one thing, can you put that oneliner in a seperate patch ? |
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| 11:47.01 | wedhorn | mvanbaak: ok, what do you want me to do with it? |
| 11:47.03 | awk | found out what it is, delay in mysql |
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| 11:47.30 | mvanbaak | wedhorn: just mail it to me, and I'll commit it once I get home |
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| 11:47.50 | wedhorn | ok, will do |
| 11:48.07 | mvanbaak | ah well |
| 11:48.09 | mvanbaak | forget it |
| 11:48.24 | mvanbaak | I'll assign the bug to me, that way I'll see it as soon as I'm home |
| 11:48.50 | mvanbaak | there |
| 11:50.06 | wedhorn | oh well, i've already sent you the mail with it |
| 11:51.33 | mvanbaak | k |
| 11:51.35 | mvanbaak | :) |
| 11:52.02 | tzafrir_laptop | bristuff has a small feature that seems useful, and I wonder if it is, and if so: how to fit it with current chan_dahdi: |
| 11:52.04 | mvanbaak | dont have my cert here at work, so cant commit it right now |
| 11:53.29 | wedhorn | no rush, I'm calling it quits for the night. Have a good rest of the day. |
| 11:53.32 | tzafrir_laptop | it's something similar to the option 'd' that declars a zap dial string as "digital". Rather, it is an option "m" that explicitly disables EC for the call, |
| 11:53.52 | tzafrir_laptop | ans also asks for transfercapability of a digital audio |
| 11:55.13 | tzafrir_laptop | So you'd use: Dial(Zap/4m/123456) |
| 11:55.43 | tzafrir_laptop | What do you think? |
| 11:59.29 | eliel | good morning |
| 12:01.30 | tzafrir_laptop | Is there a better way to temporarily disable the EC from the dialplan? |
| 12:02.15 | tzafrir_laptop | Are there other channels with EC? |
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| 12:12.13 | eliel | mvanbaak: [arguments] should be printed under [syntax] ? |
| 12:16.35 | mvanbaak | yes |
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| 12:20.52 | eliel | ok |
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| 12:54.24 | nikolaev | hi all, is anyone aware of any prepaid solution for asterisk ? |
| 12:54.58 | nikolaev | I knew a asterisk-prepaid was going to be developed but looks like is not under development now |
| 13:05.11 | lmadsen | prepaid solution? |
| 13:05.13 | lmadsen | to do what? |
| 13:09.28 | seanbright | leroi moore died :( |
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| 13:18.28 | mvanbaak | only 46 years old ... |
| 13:18.30 | mvanbaak | damn |
| 13:18.52 | seanbright | yeah |
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| 13:48.56 | tzafrir_laptop | I'm trying to understand if the following is thread-safe: |
| 13:50.05 | tzafrir_laptop | in 1.4, chan_dahdi.c, in pr_fixup_principle() , there is: old->owner = NULL; ... old->call = NULL; ... |
| 13:50.24 | tzafrir_laptop | but after that there are still some changes to fields of old |
| 13:51.05 | tzafrir_laptop | (that's the old channel there: the call was moved from 'old' to 'new') |
| 13:51.30 | tzafrir_laptop | How can I be sure it is still safe to modify old? |
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| 14:02.10 | kpfleming | tzafrir_laptop: it appears that the callers to pri_fixup_principle hold the lock on the pri structure itself |
| 14:02.27 | kpfleming | i don't see how the 'old' channel could become 'in use' again while that lock is held |
| 14:03.15 | snuff-home | hello putnopvut :) |
| 14:03.36 | putnopvut | Good morning snuff-home ... er, well, I guess it's evening there. |
| 14:03.53 | snuff-home | mm its actually just turned tomorrow |
| 14:04.17 | snuff-home | srt loves finding things wrong with ami atm.. |
| 14:04.24 | putnopvut | srt? |
| 14:04.39 | snuff-home | some guy on mantis |
| 14:04.40 | seanbright | bugs.digium.com user |
| 14:09.11 | snuff-home | mm time to go snooze i think.. i've done my attempted patch for today |
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| 14:47.51 | putnopvut | If a call to socket(2) were to fail (i.e. return -1), then if we ignored the failure and tried to call recvfrom(2) on that socket, would errno be set to EBADF or ENOTSOCK? |
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| 14:53.29 | tzafrir_laptop | asks again: |
| 14:53.43 | tzafrir_laptop | bristuff has a small feature that seems useful, and I wonder if it is, and if so: how to fit it with current chan_dahdi: |
| 14:54.12 | tzafrir_laptop | it's something similar to the option 'd' that declares a zap dial string as "digital". Rather, it is an option "m" that explicitly disables EC for the call, |
| 14:54.31 | tzafrir_laptop | and also asks for transfercapability of a digital audio |
| 14:54.55 | tzafrir_laptop | So you'd use: Dial(Zap/4m/123456) |
| 14:55.22 | tzafrir_laptop | Is there a better way to temporarily disable the EC from the dialplan? |
| 14:55.41 | tzafrir_laptop | Are there other channel drivers with EC control? |
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| 14:59.47 | putnopvut | tzafrir_laptop: This may not necessarily be "better" but you could use some channel variable to tell if EC should be disabled. |
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| 15:07.14 | seanbright | codefreeze-lap: i made 13305 private since i asked the reporter to upload his extensions.ael. in case he had some special sauce in there that he didn't want to get out. |
| 15:07.35 | seanbright | codefreeze-lap: my reason for asking for his extensions.ael is that his story has changed a couple times as to what the actual AEL is that is causing his problem. |
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| 15:11.40 | codefreeze-lap | seanbright: sandpaper gloves for slippery eels |
| 15:12.10 | seanbright | codefreeze-lap: do you have personal experience in that area? |
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| 15:16.45 | seanbright | caio1982: seems like a good idea to me re: ast_config_AST_LOG_DIR |
| 15:20.56 | codefreeze-lap | seanbright: I've been doing this 30+ years.... you can only imagine... |
| 15:21.15 | seanbright | :) |
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| 15:25.45 | seanbright | damn you russellb |
| 15:26.12 | russellb | <3 |
| 15:26.25 | seanbright | it's like the fastest finger challenge |
| 15:26.53 | russellb | according to my client, I won :-p |
| 15:27.08 | seanbright | you did. i stopped when i saw your message come in. |
| 15:27.21 | seanbright | at least on the syslogd one |
| 15:27.24 | russellb | ah |
| 15:27.55 | russellb | our mailing list server gives my email address priority |
| 15:27.57 | russellb | (not really) |
| 15:28.07 | seanbright | we both said good luck to the conference call question though |
| 15:28.18 | seanbright | except i said it sarcastically |
| 15:28.47 | russellb | lol |
| 15:28.50 | russellb | yes, I noticed that |
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| 15:56.57 | caio1982 | russellb: nice! |
| 15:57.22 | caio1982 | seanbright: too late :) |
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| 16:39.27 | eliel | mvanbaak: 2 things: |
| 16:40.19 | eliel | 1) I have a patch to start working with arguments, I would like to commit it, it is not finished, it is doing the 30% of the job it won't break the branch. Do you agree? |
| 16:40.55 | mvanbaak | yes |
| 16:40.55 | eliel | 2) I was thinking about what we talk with jsmith about colors replaceable, literal, etc... |
| 16:40.57 | mvanbaak | go ahead |
| 16:42.01 | eliel | What I would like to do is replace <literal> etc, with printable chars like "pepe" = <literal>pepe</literal> and then have a text2color to print every string like "string" with [color]string[/color] |
| 16:42.10 | nikolaev | lmadsen, sorry for the delay |
| 16:42.31 | lmadsen | doesn't remember a timer being started :) |
| 16:42.50 | eliel | "" = <literal> is just an example, didn't think about it yet |
| 16:43.02 | nikolaev | lmadsen I was talking about a doing billing on prepaid accounts + doing authenticate, authorize, accounting |
| 16:43.26 | lmadsen | has no idea what this conversation is about :) |
| 16:43.38 | nikolaev | "prepaid solution" |
| 16:43.47 | mvanbaak | eliel: hhmm |
| 16:44.32 | eliel | my idea is to have the string able to be printable inside the buffer... and have some conditions in other function to let it print with colors |
| 16:44.56 | lmadsen | nikolaev: I think the problem with that idea is no one seems to do that the same way, but afaik I don't think anyone has built something like that |
| 16:45.41 | eliel | or, we will have to create a "format" and when we need to print the content of syntax for example we will need to use the format2text expression if no colors are needed. |
| 16:46.41 | nikolaev | lmadsen do you have any suggestions or posts or howtos on hand, that could help me doing it ? |
| 16:46.50 | mvanbaak | it will be a colorfull cli |
| 16:46.52 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 16:46.53 | lmadsen | nikolaev: nothing on hand |
| 16:47.27 | lmadsen | haven't written the cookbook yet |
| 16:47.43 | eliel | 640x480 cli heh |
| 16:48.04 | lmadsen | nikolaev: might have to do some googling and research and experimentation at this point |
| 16:48.18 | mvanbaak | "rasterisk now depends on fbdev" |
| 16:49.13 | mvanbaak | eliel: it's nice and all, but I really dont have that as a high prio on my list |
| 16:49.51 | mvanbaak | I think it's just some 'nice to have' thing that can be implemented once this stuff is in trunk |
| 16:50.00 | mvanbaak | but hey, that's just me |
| 16:50.57 | eliel | mvanbaak: I agree, but I need to replace <literal> <replaceable> inside <para> with a some char... |
| 16:51.00 | nikolaev | lmadsen: yeah I will do this for sure. I actually found a software named asterisk-prepaid, but obviously its written for very old versions and its not working with the current one |
| 16:51.09 | eliel | at least |
| 16:51.18 | lmadsen | nikolaev: we should move this to #asterisk |
| 16:51.35 | eliel | I don't know how <literal> must be replaced with, "", '', [], {}... |
| 16:51.37 | eliel | or nothing |
| 16:52.59 | mvanbaak | eliel: just replace it with [] for now |
| 16:53.08 | eliel | ok |
| 16:53.12 | eliel | and replaceable? |
| 16:53.24 | mvanbaak | {} |
| 16:53.35 | mvanbaak | like optional stuff in the CLI handler ;) |
| 16:53.48 | eliel | great |
| 16:53.53 | nikolaev | lmadsen: sorry about that |
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| 17:04.20 | mvanbaak | nice work |
| 17:05.09 | eliel | I hope to finish soon, I won't have the time I have at the moment to work on this. |
| 17:05.50 | mvanbaak | I dont have time at all :( |
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| 17:17.14 | mvanbaak | meh, asterisk segfaults on OpenBSD when you hit CTRL+c on the cli |
| 17:18.17 | mvanbaak | #0 0x00000000004f3e05 in el_gets (el=0x20965e800, nread=0x7f7ffffd2204) |
| 17:18.17 | mvanbaak | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.17 | mvanbaak | 472retval = (*el->el_map.func[cmdnum]) (el, ch); |
| 17:18.27 | russellb | then don't do that |
| 17:18.28 | russellb | :-p\ |
| 17:18.53 | mvanbaak | erm,.... kay |
| 17:19.12 | caio1982 | that's why someone sold his soul to add a shutdown command to the cli :) |
| 17:20.10 | seanbright | to shutdown i just killall -9 asterisk |
| 17:20.15 | mvanbaak | funny, it does not core when you do: stop now |
| 17:20.26 | mvanbaak | seanbright: killall is a linux specific command |
| 17:20.33 | mvanbaak | seanbright: better use: pkill -9 asterisk |
| 17:20.36 | mvanbaak | that's portable |
| 17:20.39 | russellb | kill -9 `pidof asterisk` ? |
| 17:20.43 | kpfleming | killall is just a shell script, essentially |
| 17:20.54 | russellb | or is pidof linux, too |
| 17:21.07 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 17:21.19 | mvanbaak | not on OpenBSD nor FreeBSD nor Dragonfly |
| 17:21.34 | seanbright | yes, we have this conversation *everytime* i mention killall |
| 17:21.42 | seanbright | and guess what |
| 17:21.45 | Qwell | pkill! |
| 17:21.49 | seanbright | i still don't give a crap about openbsd |
| 17:21.55 | russellb | lol |
| 17:22.12 | Qwell | does openbsd still exist? |
| 17:22.26 | seanbright | you know seanbright, 'a' isn't portable... posix dictates that you have to use 'adsjahsdjkhasdkjhakdhaksdhqowieuqoiwe' |
| 17:22.33 | mvanbaak | no, it's called ClosedBSD now and they rewrote it in C# |
| 17:22.35 | Qwell | figure Theo would've had a meltdown or something by now - he's too angry. |
| 17:22.38 | file | trolls! the lot of you |
| 17:22.43 | seanbright | i'll show you something that itn's portable |
| 17:23.31 | mvanbaak | seanbright: func_sysinfo.c ;) |
| 17:23.33 | mvanbaak | hides |
| 17:23.53 | seanbright | no clue what that is |
| 17:23.56 | seanbright | and guess what |
| 17:23.59 | seanbright | i still don't give a crap about openbsd |
| 17:24.10 | russellb | spoken like a true windows guy |
| 17:24.19 | Qwell | burn |
| 17:24.25 | russellb | "@*($&@ portability" |
| 17:24.44 | seanbright | yeah... so how is that windows version coming along, hypocrite? |
| 17:24.45 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:24.58 | Qwell | seanbright: works on my windows box |
| 17:25.01 | russellb | did someone poop in your coffee this morning? |
| 17:25.06 | russellb | you're moody :-p |
| 17:25.30 | mvanbaak | must be because he does not have an OpenBSD box |
| 17:25.30 | seanbright | meh |
| 17:25.36 | seanbright | mvanbaak: that is correct |
| 17:25.42 | seanbright | mvanbaak: i have a penis and testicles instead |
| 17:25.50 | mvanbaak | wow |
| 17:25.54 | mvanbaak | sexy |
| 17:26.01 | caio1982 | lol |
| 17:26.15 | file | blinks |
| 17:26.25 | seanbright | that's right kids |
| 17:26.41 | caio1982 | having them means nothing if they're not used /me runs |
| 17:26.53 | seanbright | jeebus |
| 17:27.01 | seanbright | everyone is a comedian |
| 17:27.34 | mvanbaak | comforts seanbright by handing him some OpenBSD cd's |
| 17:27.42 | seanbright | i grow weary |
| 17:27.43 | russellb | openbsd has a CD? |
| 17:27.48 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 17:27.52 | seanbright | does it have 'killall'? |
| 17:28.05 | mvanbaak | it has pkill |
| 17:28.11 | seanbright | what about 'killall'? |
| 17:28.15 | file | killing is never the answer! |
| 17:28.20 | mvanbaak | seanbright: it does ! |
| 17:28.24 | russellb | alias killall=pkill |
| 17:28.29 | mvanbaak | seanbright: alias killall=pkill |
| 17:28.31 | mvanbaak | hahaha |
| 17:28.58 | tzafrir_laptop | try to use the -v switch of pkill for extra verbosity |
| 17:29.25 | puzzled | lol |
| 17:29.31 | tzafrir_laptop | managed to hose a server that way once |
| 17:29.47 | mvanbaak | tzafrir_laptop: whehehehe. classic |
| 17:29.56 | puzzled | that's just mean to use -v like that |
| 17:30.22 | seanbright | killall doesn't have that confusing argument |
| 17:30.25 | seanbright | i win again |
| 17:30.34 | mvanbaak | again ? |
| 17:30.38 | seanbright | yes |
| 17:30.43 | seanbright | like every other time |
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| 17:31.03 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:31.06 | seanbright | that's hilarious |
| 17:31.10 | seanbright | and original |
| 17:31.15 | russellb | damn you |
| 17:31.17 | seanbright | might want to ~thwack me |
| 17:31.22 | russellb | you're a bitch today |
| 17:31.36 | russellb | go have a beer |
| 17:31.37 | seanbright | awww |
| 17:31.49 | seanbright | it's 1:30pm |
| 17:31.58 | Qwell | that's not much of an excuse.. |
| 17:32.09 | mvanbaak | killall has too many bugs if you compare it with pkill |
| 17:32.11 | Qwell | well, maybe |
| 17:32.12 | mvanbaak | you loose, again |
| 17:32.17 | file | at Telcomleifjoshvoxmartenterprisesinc drinking is encouraged after noon |
| 17:32.19 | seanbright | um... i'm an adult that doesn't drink in the middle of a work day? |
| 17:32.27 | *** kick/#asterisk-dev [mvanbaak!n=sean@asterisk/contributor-and-bug-marshal/seanbright] by seanbright (i grow weary) |
| 17:32.38 | seanbright | woops |
| 17:32.41 | seanbright | typo |
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| 17:33.24 | seanbright | wb mvanbaak! |
| 17:33.46 | mvanbaak | I was gone ? |
| 17:33.53 | seanbright | you were, yes. |
| 17:34.07 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 17:34.09 | seanbright | -!- mvanbaak was kicked from #asterisk-dev by russellb |
| 17:34.15 | russellb | bullshit |
| 17:34.15 | seanbright | don't know why he did it |
| 17:34.16 | mvanbaak | WHAT ???? |
| 17:34.25 | seanbright | he's crazy that guy |
| 17:34.31 | russellb | mvanbaak was kicked from the chat room by member:seanbright. (i grow weary) |
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| 17:34.58 | russellb | calm down you two |
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| 17:35.07 | mvanbaak | k |
| 17:35.23 | mvanbaak | time to give func_sysinfo some love |
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| 17:39.22 | putnopvut | This freaking lock order thing in app_chanspy has me all in a tizzy. |
| 17:40.27 | putnopvut | It's just wrong all over the place. |
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| 18:29.59 | Qwell | jameswf-home: freenet6? |
| 18:31.48 | jameswf-home | si |
| 18:32.05 | Qwell | I never had good luck with them.. always up and down |
| 18:32.47 | Qwell | I think HE has a server right near you. <3 HE |
| 18:34.16 | tzafrir_laptop | http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/package-management-sudoku/ |
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| 18:54.22 | mvanbaak | Qwell: best ipv6 tunnel stuff I found is sixxs.net |
| 18:59.08 | jameswf-home | HE doesnt follow me atleast havent figured it out |
| 18:59.20 | jameswf-home | yeah freenet6 is kinda flakey |
| 19:02.19 | mvanbaak | a 'core show sysinfo' that grabs all information using sysctl. Is that something that will be accepted ? |
| 19:02.58 | russellb | maybe ... is there no C API that can do it? |
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| 19:04.12 | Qwell | sysctl() is a Linux thing |
| 19:04.18 | seanbright | ... |
| 19:04.32 | mvanbaak | Qwell: it's in BSD as well |
| 19:04.40 | mvanbaak | sys/sysctl.h |
| 19:04.41 | seanbright | oh thank god |
| 19:05.09 | mvanbaak | russellb: not that I know. |
| 19:05.43 | mvanbaak | russellb: on linux you have the sysinfo struct. but not on *BSD |
| 19:06.02 | Qwell | looks like sysctl() usage is discouraged.. syscall() instead |
| 19:06.10 | Qwell | (syscall was in 4BSD) |
| 19:06.54 | seanbright | there's a sysinfo() call in linux |
| 19:07.04 | Qwell | that's what core show sysinfo uses |
| 19:07.09 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 19:07.13 | seanbright | "This function is Linux-specific, and should not be used in programs intended to be portable." |
| 19:07.16 | seanbright | oh well |
| 19:07.20 | mvanbaak | see |
| 19:07.24 | Qwell | heh, yeah |
| 19:07.49 | seanbright | we'll call it... the asterisk portable runtime or "APR" |
| 19:08.03 | seanbright | (and yes, i know that apache has that already, that is why it's funny) |
| 19:08.36 | mvanbaak | ugh |
| 19:08.39 | mvanbaak | syscall is ugly |
| 19:09.46 | mvanbaak | crap, even sys/syscall.h is non-portable |
| 19:09.51 | Qwell | yeah |
| 19:09.56 | mvanbaak | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.58 | mvanbaak | blegh |
| 19:10.28 | seanbright | the goal is having it work where? linux and bsd? |
| 19:10.34 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 19:10.38 | seanbright | or solaris too? |
| 19:10.41 | mvanbaak | at least that's my goal |
| 19:10.42 | Qwell | already works on linux - the sysinfo stuff wouldn't be going away |
| 19:10.46 | mvanbaak | I dont have solaris |
| 19:10.55 | seanbright | oh |
| 19:10.57 | Qwell | seanbright: would have to find solaris-specific stuff to get that info ;/ |
| 19:10.59 | Qwell | it's silly |
| 19:11.34 | mvanbaak | well, I'll continue this sysctl stuff, create a patch and post it on mantis |
| 19:12.03 | kpfleming | can you post a patch to convert an openbsd box into a linux box? |
| 19:12.11 | seanbright | kthx |
| 19:12.20 | Qwell | binary diff? |
| 19:12.24 | mvanbaak | no, but the other way around is no problem |
| 19:12.42 | seanbright | kpfleming: rm -rf / |
| 19:12.44 | seanbright | that's a good start |
| 19:12.54 | mvanbaak | whatever |
| 19:13.28 | seanbright | and the other way around: |
| 19:13.36 | seanbright | rm -rf /everything/useful/in/a/modern/OS |
| 19:13.40 | seanbright | done and done |
| 19:13.47 | Qwell | just rm /bin/bash |
| 19:14.36 | seanbright | bash <3 |
| 19:19.39 | mvanbaak | ok, never mind |
| 19:21.47 | mvanbaak | http://michiel.vanbaak.info/temp/2008082000_core-show-sysinfo-sysctl_stopped-because-of-no-interest-by-others.diff |
| 19:21.51 | mvanbaak | there, have fun |
| 19:22.08 | seanbright | jeez |
| 19:23.09 | mvanbaak | yeah, sorry if I offended anyone |
| 19:23.18 | mvanbaak | <--- in a bad mood after having a shitty day |
| 19:23.47 | seanbright | only reason it doesn't interest me is that i don't run bsd or intend to ever run bsd |
| 19:24.56 | mvanbaak | only reason I care is because I really want to get rid of the last dozen of linux boxen |
| 19:25.20 | seanbright | and you need 'core show sysinfo' to do that? |
| 19:25.25 | mvanbaak | nope |
| 19:25.40 | seanbright | so there goes your only reason for carking |
| 19:25.48 | mvanbaak | but wouldn't it be nice if we support the same set of features on other platforms ? |
| 19:25.50 | seanbright | s/arkin/arin/ |
| 19:26.08 | seanbright | sure, if people had the desire to code them |
| 19:30.41 | seanbright | mvanbaak: looks like you only had a few dozen more lines to go |
| 19:32.41 | mvanbaak | yeah |
| 19:32.48 | seanbright | wow |
| 19:32.58 | mvanbaak | it compiles, it works |
| 19:33.07 | Qwell | unfortunately, you'd probably have to add configure script checks for the sysctl stuff |
| 19:33.11 | mvanbaak | but only physical mem and number of processes |
| 19:33.27 | mvanbaak | Qwell: I was thinking about abusing the __OpenBSD__ stuff |
| 19:33.35 | seanbright | but looking at the sysctl docs the others wouldn't be hard to find |
| 19:33.45 | Qwell | and do elseifs on the define, like if HAVE_SYSINFO elseif HAVE_SYSCTL endif |
| 19:34.06 | Qwell | it's possible to have one, both, or neither |
| 19:34.23 | Qwell | (Linux would have both, Solaris would have neither) |
| 19:34.29 | mvanbaak | if you have both, I think it should use sysinfo |
| 19:34.37 | Qwell | right |
| 19:34.48 | mvanbaak | the sysctl stuff in linux is different then OpenBSD |
| 19:34.48 | seanbright | stupid solaris |
| 19:35.02 | mvanbaak | yeah, opensolaris wont boot in qemu |
| 19:35.03 | Qwell | yuck, so you'd have to check for a certain implementation of sysctl |
| 19:35.03 | seanbright | http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sysctl&sektion=3&arch=&apropos=0&manpath=OpenBSD+Current |
| 19:35.08 | seanbright | crazy detailed |
| 19:35.24 | mvanbaak | seanbright: all man pages are like that on OpenBSD |
| 19:35.41 | seanbright | i'm just referring to the function itself and all the info it exposes |
| 19:35.41 | mvanbaak | it's crazy, but it's one of the reasons I totally fell in love with OpenBSD |
| 19:36.14 | mvanbaak | take the ifconfig manpage for example. or random hw driver manpage |
| 19:36.16 | mvanbaak | it's sick |
| 19:36.57 | mvanbaak | tgz of base manual pages is 8 MB |
| 19:37.09 | seanbright | good docs team |
| 19:38.03 | mvanbaak | well, if you add something new to whatever in OpenBSD, and you dont supply a patch to the manual pages your patch will be rejected |
| 19:38.47 | mvanbaak | that's how they keep the manual pages acurate |
| 19:39.17 | mvanbaak | it's a bit like when you add a new option to an application in asterisk but forget to mention it in CHANGES |
| 19:39.39 | mvanbaak | russellb will find you and force you to add it ;) |
| 19:44.06 | russellb | cracks the whip |
| 19:44.21 | putnopvut | I like cool whip |
| 19:44.32 | codefreeze-lap | I second that |
| 19:45.33 | codefreeze-lap | wonders how violent the reaction would be, if ran the h exten whenever a bridge was terminated |
| 19:46.04 | codefreeze-lap | People would notice it on transfers |
| 19:46.07 | russellb | that would completely change the meaning of the 'h' exten |
| 19:46.15 | russellb | sure, and when doing dial multiple times |
| 19:46.17 | russellb | lots of places |
| 19:46.21 | russellb | so, very violent |
| 19:46.27 | codefreeze-lap | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.36 | russellb | If that is needed, then we may have to consider something different ... |
| 19:46.40 | russellb | a new special extension, or something |
| 19:47.02 | codefreeze-lap | true |
| 19:47.48 | mvanbaak | exten => vh |
| 19:47.55 | mvanbaak | vh as in violent hangup |
| 19:49.03 | codefreeze-lap | just ruminating. There are some things that (at least initially) appear impossible to do, and "end before h exten" and all it entails, and handling all the xfer situations properly, for instance |
| 19:49.18 | file | mumbles about CDRs |
| 19:49.20 | kpfleming | codefreeze-lap: are you a ruminant? |
| 19:49.46 | codefreeze-lap | I feel like it. Been with 'em long enough.... |
| 19:50.00 | codefreeze-lap | mvanbaak: lol |
| 19:50.04 | putnopvut | eats ungulates |
| 19:50.31 | codefreeze-lap | putnopvut: you are what you eat?.... ungulating, are you? |
| 19:52.53 | mvanbaak | if days had 72 hours .... |
| 19:53.34 | putnopvut | we'd get to sleep a lot more, I imagine. |
| 19:55.16 | codefreeze-lap | mvanbaak: slowing the earth's rotational rate would surely lead to the extinction of all life on the planet.... I would guess. |
| 19:55.58 | seanbright | that and we would crash into the sun |
| 19:56.07 | seanbright | i think |
| 19:56.27 | codefreeze-lap | seanbright: no, that's the orbital rate, no change nec. there |
| 19:56.33 | seanbright | codefreeze-lap: ah yes |
| 19:56.41 | seanbright | revisits high school physics |
| 19:56.42 | mvanbaak | hhmm, so amphetamine is the only answer eh ? |
| 19:56.46 | seanbright | 9.8m/s^2 |
| 19:57.28 | codefreeze-lap | mvanbaak: well, excessive use of those might lead to your own personal extinction, but at least the rest of us would still be around... |
| 19:58.02 | mvanbaak | whehehehe |
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| 19:58.47 | mvanbaak | mib[0] = CTL_VM; |
| 19:58.50 | mvanbaak | oops, sorry |
| 19:59.07 | seanbright | i knew you weren't going to stop :) |
| 19:59.31 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 19:59.39 | mvanbaak | I'm too close |
| 19:59.43 | seanbright | that you are. |
| 20:00.08 | seanbright | do you know how to add the configure magic? |
| 20:00.26 | codefreeze-lap | seanbright: ~300,000 km/sec... it's not just a good idea.... it's the LAW! |
| 20:00.38 | seanbright | codefreeze-lap: c? |
| 20:00.48 | codefreeze-lap | yeah, speed of light |
| 20:00.58 | seanbright | i always say it as 3x10^8m/s |
| 20:01.02 | seanbright | sounds cooler |
| 20:01.12 | mvanbaak | seanbright: maybe. If I cant work that out I'll be bugging you guys in here |
| 20:01.24 | seanbright | mvanbaak: m'kay |
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| 20:03.34 | Qwell | 186,282mi/s |
| 20:03.44 | Qwell | everybody should know that |
| 20:03.58 | seanbright | miles... pfft |
| 20:04.02 | seanbright | silly american |
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| 20:04.49 | seanbright | 983,568,960 f/s |
| 20:04.58 | putnopvut | I say the speed of light is 1 AU/sec |
| 20:05.03 | putnopvut | but that's not right. |
| 20:05.05 | putnopvut | crap |
| 20:05.09 | putnopvut | forget I said anything. |
| 20:05.17 | seanbright | 1AU = distance to the sun |
| 20:05.17 | putnopvut | 1 light year/year |
| 20:05.20 | Qwell | How fast is the speed of light in libraries of congress per fortnight? |
| 20:05.26 | seanbright | (i think) |
| 20:05.31 | putnopvut | seanbright: you're right. |
| 20:05.40 | seanbright | putnopvut: i love when you say that. |
| 20:05.45 | putnopvut | heh |
| 20:06.05 | putnopvut | Qwell: the most odd unit of measurement I ever heard of was attoparsecs per microfortnight. |
| 20:06.29 | putnopvut | It comes out to be about the same as feet/sec |
| 20:06.29 | seanbright | i like the gravitational constant G |
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| 20:06.46 | seanbright | "hmmm, to make the math work we need this really long number... we'll call it... G" |
| 20:08.44 | codefreeze-lap | g-wiz |
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| 20:19.56 | mvanbaak | hhmm, someone here that wants to help me with some basic C stuff ? |
| 20:20.04 | seanbright | shoot |
| 20:20.21 | seanbright | i only know basic stuff anyway |
| 20:21.22 | mvanbaak | memory_stats[1] = pagetok(vmtotal.t_arm); |
| 20:21.24 | mvanbaak | erm |
| 20:21.30 | mvanbaak | http://pastebin.ca/1179996 |
| 20:22.08 | seanbright | so what is your question? |
| 20:22.24 | mvanbaak | (size) << pageshift |
| 20:22.32 | seanbright | bit shifting to the left |
| 20:22.40 | mvanbaak | duh |
| 20:23.34 | seanbright | ? |
| 20:23.54 | seanbright | was that it? |
| 20:24.55 | seanbright | guess so. |
| 20:25.57 | seanbright | there are 10 types of people in this world. those that understand binary, and those who don't. |
| 20:32.23 | eliel | heh |
| 20:35.41 | L|NUX | Hello every one |
| 20:35.48 | L|NUX | mvanbaak : y0 |
| 20:36.08 | mvanbaak | yo L|NUX |
| 20:36.47 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
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| 20:36.47 | mvanbaak | the vmtotal struct in sysctl.h is pretty nice |
| 20:36.47 | L|NUX | how are you doing today ? |
| 20:37.08 | mvanbaak | http://pastebin.ca/1180014 |
| 20:38.40 | L|NUX | mvanbaak: can you write sip patch :) |
| 20:41.04 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 20:41.27 | L|NUX | umm |
| 20:43.45 | mvanbaak | file: ping |
| 20:44.08 | file | eh? |
| 20:44.15 | L|NUX | file: y0 |
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| 21:27.56 | L|NUX | mvanbaak_: wv |
| 21:27.57 | L|NUX | wb |
| 21:28.09 | mvanbaak_ | thanks |
| 21:28.20 | L|NUX | i have now no other chooice to use other then old version of asterisk |
| 21:28.24 | L|NUX | but i have some issue with it |
| 21:28.41 | L|NUX | mvanbaak_: can you help me little if you have some 5 minutes or so |
| 21:28.43 | L|NUX | Authorization: Digest username="0218000342", realm="wateen.net", algorithm=MD5, uri="sip:wateen.net", nonce="323030382d30382d32315430333a32373a34309176e57d78e976b38aeca3d6df41ad25", response="28e802fee8306492a7a6f0d35026f37d", opaque="da664276c0e049721647a0331aed3aea", qop="auth", cnonce="12dac07b", nc=00000001 |
| 21:29.01 | L|NUX | how can i pass realm=0218000342@wateen.net |
| 21:32.11 | mvanbaak | seanbright: you still here ? |
| 21:33.06 | mvanbaak | meh, the sysctl stuff actually works |
| 21:33.11 | mvanbaak | http://pastebin.ca/1180068 |
| 21:33.43 | L|NUX | :$ |
| 21:34.31 | mvanbaak | L|NUX: no idea |
| 21:34.41 | mvanbaak | L|NUX: I'm not into chan_sip that much |
| 21:34.49 | mvanbaak | and right now I'm working on some other stuff |
| 21:35.03 | mvanbaak | if possible, talk to oej about it |
| 21:35.40 | mvanbaak | let me put the patch for the sysctl stuff online |
| 21:36.58 | mvanbaak | seanbright: http://michiel.vanbaak.info/temp/2008082000_core-show-sysinfo-sysctl.diff |
| 21:39.05 | mvanbaak | L|NUX: dont get me wrong. I want to help ppl. but I dont have time to look at that issue right now |
| 21:40.49 | L|NUX | ok |
| 21:40.50 | L|NUX | :) |
| 21:41.22 | mvanbaak | and oej already looked at it. and if you ask him he will have the final correct answer |
| 21:41.51 | L|NUX | ok |
| 21:42.12 | mvanbaak | and if you're lucky he will have a patch |
| 21:42.33 | L|NUX | i think i am not lucky :( |
| 21:45.44 | mvanbaak | Qwell: about that configure foo to detect sysctl |
| 21:45.50 | mvanbaak | care to help ? |
| 21:46.03 | mvanbaak | <--- autoconf n00b |
| 21:46.16 | Qwell | autoconf hates me |
| 21:46.21 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 21:46.23 | mvanbaak | same here |
| 21:46.33 | tzafrir_laptop | mvanbaak, what do you mean by sysctl? |
| 21:46.37 | Qwell | probably something with AC_COMPILE_CHECK though |
| 21:46.41 | mvanbaak | took me two days to get my application to compile with the correct mysql stuff |
| 21:46.53 | Qwell | AST_C_COMPILE_CHECK, rather |
| 21:47.10 | mvanbaak | tzafrir_laptop: I created another version of 'core show sysinfo' that uses sysctl instead of sysinfo |
| 21:47.22 | mvanbaak | tzafrir_laptop: http://michiel.vanbaak.info/temp/2008082000_core-show-sysinfo-sysctl.diff |
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| 22:36.15 | mvanbaak | hhmm, 1.6.0-release coming close eh ? |
| 22:37.54 | kpfleming | yep |
| 22:38.09 | mvanbaak | nice |
| 22:38.27 | mvanbaak | I'm running the 1.6.0 svn tree on several production boxen |
| 22:38.33 | mvanbaak | and it works fine |
| 22:38.38 | mvanbaak | no problems so far |
| 22:38.43 | kpfleming | with DAHDI or just VOIP? |
| 22:39.11 | mvanbaak | two with DAHDI (dummy for timing so we can do meetme) and 8 VOIP only |
| 22:39.22 | kpfleming | ahh, but no PSTN hardware then |
| 22:39.26 | mvanbaak | nope |
| 22:39.41 | mvanbaak | tried that once, no success, went with voip only |
| 22:39.54 | mvanbaak | I mean, fiber 100mbit FD is cheap here now |
| 22:40.11 | mvanbaak | like 250$/month |
| 22:40.30 | kpfleming | yowza |
| 22:41.56 | mvanbaak | maybe sounds like a lot, but if you want PSTN lines with the same concurrent channel count you pay WAY more |
| 22:42.17 | mvanbaak | that is 150$/month for 30 concurrent channels |
| 22:42.37 | codefreeze-lap | mvanbaak: wouldn't vh stand for "violent hangover" ? |
| 22:42.39 | mvanbaak | excluding minutes. that's only the monthly fee for the line |
| 22:42.39 | kpfleming | no, those are both cheap |
| 22:42.44 | kpfleming | ahh |
| 22:43.00 | mvanbaak | codefreeze-lap: lol, I'll tell you tomorrow morning |
| 22:43.40 | mvanbaak | kpfleming: right now I live somewhere hidden in the woods. I have a 12/1.5 mbit DSL line for 50$/month |
| 22:43.55 | mvanbaak | 12mbit downstream, 1.5mbit upstream |
| 22:44.06 | kpfleming | i hate you :_) |
| 22:44.14 | russellb | that's cheap, too |
| 22:44.15 | mvanbaak | that 50$ is totally nothing for a line like that |
| 22:44.34 | mvanbaak | yeah, here in .nl they try to promote the internet stuff |
| 22:45.07 | mvanbaak | too bad they never heard about mobile internet |
| 22:45.48 | mvanbaak | if I want a 3/0.5 mbit mobile internet connection I have to pay 70$/month excluding actual traffic |
| 22:46.08 | mvanbaak | that is on top of my normal mobile dialplan |
| 22:46.43 | mvanbaak | and you only get the 3mbit stuff in like 8% of the places |
| 22:46.56 | mvanbaak | the rest is GPRS, which is 64kbps |
| 22:47.12 | seanbright | mvanbaak: do me a favor? |
| 22:47.22 | mvanbaak | seanbright: install debian ? |
| 22:47.27 | seanbright | please |
| 22:47.28 | mvanbaak | whehehehehe |
| 22:47.30 | seanbright | but besides that |
| 22:47.39 | seanbright | set up your web server to serve up .diff files as text/plain |
| 22:47.55 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 22:47.57 | mvanbaak | hang on |
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| 22:50.14 | mvanbaak | seanbright: http://michiel.vanbaak.info/temp/2008082000_core-show-sysinfo-sysctl.diff |
| 22:50.18 | mvanbaak | try again |
| 22:50.45 | mvanbaak | btw |
| 22:51.03 | seanbright | still no love. no biggie. |
| 22:51.17 | russellb | comes up in the browser just fine for me |
| 22:51.34 | seanbright | what browser? |
| 22:51.36 | mvanbaak | that machine is: Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.2 mod_fastcgi/2.4.2 mod_python/3.2.10 Python/2.4.4 mod_ssl/2.2.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8c mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at michiel.vanbaak.info Port 80 |
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| 22:51.41 | russellb | Safari |
| 22:51.48 | seanbright | <-- FF3 |
| 22:52.00 | mvanbaak | seanbright: works here as well with Firefox 2.something on OpenBSD |
| 22:52.06 | seanbright | weird |
| 22:52.06 | seanbright | ok |
| 22:52.26 | seanbright | mvanbaak: that is one hell of a server string :) |
| 22:52.52 | russellb | ooh, nice, I totally have a root exploit for that version |
| 22:53.01 | seanbright | exactly |
| 22:53.04 | mvanbaak | seanbright: it works ok with FF3 on osx 10.5 as well |
| 22:53.11 | russellb | (I don't) |
| 22:53.16 | mvanbaak | russellb: be my guest ;) |
| 22:53.17 | seanbright | something must be hosed on my machine then |
| 22:53.31 | mvanbaak | seanbright: prolly your cache |
| 22:53.31 | seanbright | FF3 on vista sp1... go ahead and get it out of your system |
| 22:54.02 | mvanbaak | russellb: gotta love systrace and chroot :) |
| 22:54.05 | seanbright | works now |
| 22:54.35 | mvanbaak | russellb: I'm working on a systrace policy for asterisk right now |
| 22:54.46 | seanbright | mvanbaak: you should be able to add a configure check for sysctl |
| 22:54.53 | seanbright | mvanbaak: looks like linux has _sysctl now, but no sysctl |
| 22:55.36 | mvanbaak | seanbright: yeah, but like Qwell said, autoconf and me dont mix that good |
| 22:55.39 | seanbright | ahh |
| 22:55.48 | mvanbaak | I know how to regenerate the configure script |
| 22:56.07 | mvanbaak | I actually patched bootstrap.sh for that, and that patch got accepted |
| 22:56.16 | mvanbaak | and I do know how to do basic stuff |
| 22:56.27 | mvanbaak | but this is something where autoconf and me start to fight |
| 22:56.34 | seanbright | ok, well hold on a sec |
| 22:56.46 | mvanbaak | basically because ast_c_something is not doing what i want |
| 22:57.40 | seanbright | mvanbaak: sorry for being a dick earlier, by the way. |
| 22:57.51 | mvanbaak | seanbright: yeah, same here |
| 22:58.06 | mvanbaak | I had a shitty day. bad excuse, I know |
| 22:58.23 | mvanbaak | but shit simply hit the fan, and I was not amused |
| 22:59.00 | seanbright | i have no excuse at all :) |
| 22:59.12 | mvanbaak | lol, who cares ? |
| 22:59.12 | seanbright | http://pastebin.ca/1180140 |
| 22:59.23 | mvanbaak | just tell them the moon was 1 grade out of phase ;) |
| 23:00.06 | seanbright | run patch on that, ./bootstrap, ./configure, and you should be good to go |
| 23:00.14 | seanbright | HAVE_SYSCTL will be defined if sysctl is found |
| 23:00.15 | mvanbaak | wow, that easy huh ? |
| 23:00.18 | seanbright | aye |
| 23:00.26 | seanbright | for system functions it's pretty trivial |
| 23:00.35 | mvanbaak | I see |
| 23:00.51 | mvanbaak | I was doing weird stuff with the ast_c_compile stuff |
| 23:00.52 | seanbright | but as Qwell pointed out, your #if magic logic should be: |
| 23:01.02 | seanbright | do i have sysinfo? no? do i have sysctl? yes? super |
| 23:01.03 | mvanbaak | with some test code etc |
| 23:01.10 | seanbright | ah |
| 23:01.12 | mvanbaak | uhhuh |
| 23:01.20 | seanbright | not sure you need to go that in depth |
| 23:01.27 | mvanbaak | #if defined(HAVE_SYSINFO) |
| 23:01.28 | mvanbaak | ... |
| 23:01.29 | seanbright | unless you want to do argument type checking and such |
| 23:01.43 | mvanbaak | #elif defined(HAVE_SYSCTL) |
| 23:01.44 | seanbright | #elif defined(HAVE_SYSCTL) |
| 23:01.44 | mvanbaak | .. |
| 23:01.45 | seanbright | right |
| 23:01.51 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 23:02.01 | seanbright | another thing i noticed... and this is just nitpicking |
| 23:02.08 | mvanbaak | nah, the sysctl calls are there since 4.4BSD |
| 23:02.20 | seanbright | the 2 functions are identical except for the part where you query the OS for the metrics |
| 23:02.39 | seanbright | so you could probably split that out into a separate function so that there is only one CLI handler function in there |
| 23:02.40 | mvanbaak | you're right |
| 23:02.51 | seanbright | and those are my 2 cents :) |
| 23:09.03 | mvanbaak | updated the bug, still 2 TODO's now |
| 23:09.16 | mvanbaak | thanks for the feedback etc |
| 23:09.42 | seanbright | no problem |
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| 23:27.57 | mvanbaak | ok, I really really should be in bed |
| 23:28.17 | mvanbaak | so that's where I'm going now |
| 23:28.20 | mvanbaak | bye all |
| 23:35.36 | file | waves to bbryant |
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