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| 06:22.26 | Corydon76-dig | pokes obnauticus |
| 06:22.45 | obnauticus | corramor: |
| 06:22.48 | obnauticus | Corydon76-dig: what the hell. |
| 06:23.03 | Corydon76-dig | sup? |
| 06:23.03 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 06:23.11 | obnauticus | Corydon76-dig: do you want my cock? |
| 06:23.16 | mvanbaak | "I had to rebuild this conf because my iax.conf had grown to 270mb!" |
| 06:23.17 | obnauticus | twice? |
| 06:23.24 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus: not until you turn 18! |
| 06:23.34 | obnauticus | 8==D |
| 06:23.37 | obnauticus | calls fbi |
| 06:24.01 | obnauticus | it's 16 in Washington |
| 06:24.13 | Corydon76-dig | It's 18 in Tennessee |
| 06:25.05 | obnauticus | we will meet on a state boarder |
| 06:25.07 | Corydon76-dig | What is it in Phoenix? |
| 06:25.11 | obnauticus | and then it will be a REAL federal offense |
| 06:25.24 | obnauticus | Corydon76-dig: once agian, im not going to astricon this year |
| 06:25.25 | obnauticus | >:| |
| 06:25.34 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus: oh well |
| 06:25.45 | obnauticus | :\ |
| 06:25.55 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus: not a big deal, another guy has already offered for Astricon |
| 06:26.10 | obnauticus | >:O |
| 06:26.13 | obnauticus | are there any girls at astricon ? |
| 06:26.29 | Corydon76-dig | This is my first year going |
| 06:26.54 | Corydon76-dig | But I believe at several of the past years, you could count the number of female attendees on one hand |
| 06:27.50 | obnauticus | ... |
| 06:27.53 | obnauticus | Pheonix has not girls. |
| 06:27.58 | obnauticus | but then again |
| 06:28.01 | obnauticus | Real men don't need girls. |
| 06:28.20 | Corydon76-dig | You could always come to PhreakNIC, where you know I won't lay a hand on you |
| 06:29.02 | obnauticus | What if I lay a hand on you though. |
| 06:29.07 | obnauticus | What would happen then? |
| 06:29.20 | Corydon76-dig | You're not getting in my pants |
| 06:29.34 | obnauticus | I didn't expect you to allow it <3 |
| 06:30.09 | Corydon76-dig | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhreakNIC |
| 06:30.34 | obnauticus | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.13 | Corydon76-dig | Uh huh |
| 06:31.31 | Corydon76-dig | Online ticket sales here: https://co.clickandpledge.com/advanced/default.aspx?wid=19540 |
| 06:32.20 | Corydon76-dig | So how's your Asterisk-fu coming along? |
| 06:35.18 | obnauticus | Well I host a sex hotline automated using the `sex` game that ships with freebsd and festival |
| 06:35.20 | obnauticus | you can call in |
| 06:35.24 | obnauticus | 360-968-1244 |
| 06:38.45 | oej | Morning |
| 06:39.09 | oej | How is this hotline related to Asterisk development? |
| 06:40.41 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus: you can call in to mine... 888-DIGIUM-0 |
| 06:40.59 | obnauticus | .... |
| 06:41.14 | obnauticus | did you...BUY that? |
| 06:41.27 | obnauticus | is it a sex hotline? |
| 06:41.39 | Corydon76-dig | Yes, I did. No, it isn't. |
| 06:42.25 | Corydon76-dig | but you should still call |
| 06:43.22 | Corydon76-dig | 888-344-4860 |
| 06:44.04 | Corydon76-dig | And, no, you won't be talking to me if you call. |
| 06:45.08 | obnauticus | ,,, |
| 06:45.18 | obnauticus | I talked to william gates yesterday |
| 06:45.20 | obnauticus | and steve balmer |
| 06:45.36 | Corydon76-dig | Did they talk back? |
| 06:45.44 | obnauticus | 425-882-8080 |
| 06:45.46 | obnauticus | yes, they did |
| 06:45.48 | obnauticus | it WAS them. |
| 06:45.59 | obnauticus | that is the MSFT voice router. |
| 06:46.03 | Corydon76-dig | ...but is no longer? |
| 06:46.42 | Corydon76-dig | c'mon, c'mon, it's a toll free number |
| 06:47.20 | obnauticus | No. |
| 06:47.25 | obnauticus | It's not even yours honey |
| 06:47.39 | Corydon76-dig | It most certainly is mine |
| 06:48.23 | obnauticus | you call mine first. |
| 06:50.30 | Corydon76-dig | Thomas Kilbride, Embedded Development Dpt? |
| 06:56.36 | Corydon76-dig | btw, I also have 888-DIGIUM-1 |
| 06:57.12 | Corydon76-dig | and a few others |
| 06:57.49 | Corydon76-dig | We got 888-PHREAK-1 for PhreakNIC printed on 1500 condoms last year |
| 06:58.45 | Corydon76-dig | 877-ONE-IN-TN is for a gay youth group |
| 06:59.23 | Corydon76-dig | another recent acquisition is 888-HACK-615 |
| 07:00.22 | Corydon76-dig | They're easier to get than you might think |
| 07:00.30 | Corydon76-dig | and probably cheaper, too |
| 07:02.10 | Corydon76-dig | anyhoo, I'm going to bed. |
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| 08:01.29 | obnauticus | Corydon76-dig: I am pretty sure people gong to your convention will not need condoms anyway |
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| 10:18.17 | seanbright | looks like i missed an... interesting... conversation earlier this morning |
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| 13:32.41 | eliel | good morning |
| 13:33.09 | eliel | it is safe to free a channel pvt just before a softhangup() ? |
| 13:35.54 | eliel | or I am missing something? |
| 13:42.02 | russellb | only if you have the channel locked while you do it ... |
| 13:42.26 | russellb | it's generally not something done, though |
| 13:44.58 | eliel | russellb: ok, thanks |
| 13:45.39 | russellb | np |
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| 14:17.38 | skirmisha | hello guys |
| 14:17.55 | skirmisha | could someone tell me where to look in gdb for errors |
| 14:18.16 | skirmisha | i've got some core dumps and i use gdb to see what happens |
| 14:18.29 | skirmisha | when i type thread apply all bt |
| 14:18.42 | skirmisha | i see a lot of info, but could not determinate the problem |
| 14:18.54 | jsmith | Can you pastebin the output of "thread apply all bt"? |
| 14:19.05 | skirmisha | it is a lot of output |
| 14:19.09 | skirmisha | about 50 threads |
| 14:19.11 | jsmith | I'm not sure I'm smart enough to figure it out, but maybe one of the other developers will know what to look for |
| 14:19.23 | jsmith | Well, to begin with, let's just see the output of "bt" |
| 14:19.37 | skirmisha | bt just show last or 1 thread |
| 14:19.44 | jsmith | Yes, I realize that |
| 14:20.54 | skirmisha | the strange thing is that asterisk just hang and does not accept any sip msg |
| 14:20.59 | skirmisha | untill i restart it |
| 14:21.24 | jsmith | OK, it sounds like a locking problem of some sort |
| 14:21.42 | jsmith | Did you compile Asterisk with DEBUG_DEADLOCKS enabled by chance? |
| 14:22.35 | skirmisha | if it is on by default yes |
| 14:22.44 | skirmisha | i install asterisk with default config |
| 14:22.50 | skirmisha | this is what i get from bt |
| 14:22.56 | skirmisha | shall i paste it here? |
| 14:23.58 | seanbright | in a pastevin |
| 14:24.01 | seanbright | pastebin |
| 14:24.01 | seanbright | ~pb |
| 14:24.02 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 14:24.56 | skirmisha | what shall i do with this pastebin |
| 14:25.02 | seanbright | ... |
| 14:25.03 | skirmisha | need to download it or what? |
| 14:25.07 | seanbright | seriously? |
| 14:25.12 | seanbright | you go to one of those sites |
| 14:25.16 | seanbright | you paste your backtrace |
| 14:25.24 | seanbright | it will give you a link |
| 14:25.28 | seanbright | you paste the link here |
| 14:25.34 | skirmisha | ok |
| 14:28.15 | skirmisha | http://pastebin.com/d5c3f05e5 |
| 14:28.22 | skirmisha | this is it |
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| 14:29.27 | skirmisha | asterisk ver is 1.4.18.1 |
| 14:29.49 | seanbright | skirmisha: do a 'thread apply all bt' and pastebin the output |
| 14:30.00 | russellb | ugh |
| 14:30.01 | russellb | update |
| 14:30.12 | seanbright | heh |
| 14:30.13 | russellb | waste of time when you're running multiple versions behind |
| 14:30.21 | seanbright | true |
| 14:30.35 | russellb | 667 changes to Asterisk 1.4 since then |
| 14:30.54 | seanbright | thankfully it wasn't 1 less than that. |
| 14:31.08 | skirmisha | there are 50 threads |
| 14:31.14 | russellb | see above comments |
| 14:31.18 | russellb | waaaaaaaaste of time until you update |
| 14:31.41 | skirmisha | i understand |
| 14:31.45 | skirmisha | so i need to update |
| 14:31.49 | russellb | lol, yes |
| 14:32.05 | seanbright | it would make life easier for everyone if you did |
| 14:32.28 | seanbright | and if you don't... a puppy will die |
| 14:32.31 | russellb | it would be ideal if you just grab the 1.4 branch of svn |
| 14:33.01 | seanbright | svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.4 |
| 14:35.26 | skirmisha | i think i'll leave it like this |
| 14:35.48 | seanbright | heh |
| 14:37.04 | russellb | ugh |
| 14:37.23 | seanbright | well then... |
| 14:37.28 | russellb | kthxbye |
| 14:38.15 | skirmisha | too much hassle |
| 14:38.34 | seanbright | skirmisha: yeah... a segfault here and there on a production box is no biggy |
| 14:38.56 | jsmith | ~friday |
| 14:38.57 | jbot | ! ! ! F R I D A Y ! ! ! |
| 14:39.01 | seanbright | thank jeebus! |
| 14:39.21 | seanbright | i never feel guilty about not doing work-work on the weekends |
| 14:40.14 | skirmisha | what i notice is that in other threads output is same as the one i posted |
| 14:40.22 | skirmisha | something with macros and dial |
| 14:40.40 | skirmisha | anyway i don;t think it is a big deal |
| 14:40.50 | skirmisha | it could be something that phones sends to asterisk |
| 14:40.57 | skirmisha | like notify or option msg |
| 14:45.10 | Juggie | seanbright, i dont think you actually do your real work anymore :) |
| 14:45.50 | seanbright | Juggie: tell me about it. it's a miracle no one has noticed. |
| 14:46.00 | russellb | nice. |
| 14:46.32 | Juggie | here at the goverment it will take them 2-3 years to notice |
| 14:46.37 | russellb | When I started working on Asterisk all the time, my previous employer told me I was addicted to Asterisk, and that I needed to quit |
| 14:46.54 | russellb | .. so I left |
| 14:47.07 | Juggie | didnt you go to school at some point in there? |
| 14:47.16 | russellb | yeah, I did that, too |
| 14:50.32 | Juggie | 'your addicted, you should quit' |
| 14:50.33 | Juggie | hah |
| 14:51.23 | seanbright | instead of firing you? |
| 14:51.31 | seanbright | you never should have left that gig |
| 14:51.35 | russellb | well ... no |
| 14:51.39 | russellb | they didn't tell me to quit my job |
| 14:51.43 | seanbright | oh |
| 14:51.46 | russellb | they told me to quit working on asterisk if i wanted to keep my job |
| 14:51.50 | seanbright | ohhhh |
| 14:51.52 | seanbright | hah |
| 14:51.57 | russellb | and that I owed my manager an apology ... |
| 14:51.59 | seanbright | that is *completely* different |
| 14:52.09 | russellb | btw, I did _not_ spend my work time on this |
| 14:52.30 | seanbright | hmm? |
| 14:52.32 | russellb | they were just concerned about how involved i was getting outside of work |
| 14:52.34 | russellb | it was weird |
| 14:52.38 | seanbright | ohhh |
| 14:52.40 | russellb | they didn't get it ... |
| 14:52.46 | russellb | so anyway, short story, i left. |
| 14:52.57 | seanbright | that's like when you tell people you program for 'fun' |
| 14:52.59 | seanbright | even other programmers |
| 14:53.04 | seanbright | and they look at you like "huh?" |
| 14:53.12 | russellb | yeah ... |
| 14:53.24 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: what was the previous job doing? |
| 14:53.24 | russellb | they looked at it like i was doing work for another company as a 2nd job or something |
| 14:53.42 | russellb | programming |
| 14:54.51 | russellb | wasn't working on anything voice related at the time ... |
| 14:57.21 | skirmisha | i am looking for real good asterisk developer |
| 14:57.45 | skirmisha | that can modify things for me in source code |
| 14:58.26 | russellb | ok. |
| 14:58.28 | skirmisha | of course not for free |
| 14:58.35 | russellb | email the asterisk-biz mailing list |
| 14:59.19 | russellb | or I can modify code at the rate of $100 per line of code |
| 14:59.35 | russellb | (kidding) but seriously, the biz list is the appropriate place to ask. |
| 14:59.42 | skirmisha | then you have to type everything in 1 line |
| 14:59.46 | skirmisha | that is fine with me |
| 14:59.47 | skirmisha | :) |
| 15:00.03 | Corydon76-dig | If you have suggestions that interest me, I do some of that work for free, but it would have to be open source |
| 15:00.20 | skirmisha | it is open source |
| 15:00.40 | Corydon76-dig | Someone earlier this week asked for alternative terminal colors, and a patch now exists in the bugtracker |
| 15:00.45 | skirmisha | like now i am working on tool that can merge more asterisk servers as on registar server |
| 15:00.50 | skirmisha | things like that |
| 15:00.59 | skirmisha | so i can do my routing easily |
| 15:01.06 | skirmisha | something like load balancing |
| 15:01.19 | skirmisha | now i have to use dundi which is waste of resource |
| 15:01.37 | Corydon76-dig | Some of the work for making Asterisk more easily load balanced is already occurring, on a macro level |
| 15:01.59 | Corydon76-dig | Russell's distributed device states, for example |
| 15:02.32 | skirmisha | i'd like asterisk to share same registration table |
| 15:02.37 | skirmisha | probably in mysql version |
| 15:02.55 | Juggie | you can already do that with realtime |
| 15:03.06 | skirmisha | yes realtime helps a bit |
| 15:03.56 | skirmisha | also i am working on sms things, i know there is some workaround about sms, but that does not fit my needs |
| 15:06.01 | skirmisha | anyway, thanks for your help |
| 15:07.16 | ariel_ | has anyone worked on a load balance for the app_queue.so, Seems asterisk has a hard time with having more then 100 agents to a box. |
| 15:08.19 | russellb | #asterisk please .. |
| 15:11.49 | Juggie | calls the dev police |
| 15:16.58 | Qwell | <Juggie> here at the goverment it will take them 2-3 years to notice |
| 15:17.03 | Qwell | Juggie: notice, or fill out all the paperwork? |
| 15:17.06 | Qwell | :) |
| 15:18.37 | Juggie | probally notice |
| 15:18.54 | Juggie | and we are all union protected too not that i would get myself into that situation but people usually dont get fired |
| 15:18.56 | Qwell | then 2-3 more for the red tape? |
| 15:18.58 | Juggie | its just not worth the hassle |
| 15:19.31 | seanbright | needs to move to canada |
| 15:19.36 | seanbright | Juggie: can you get me a job? |
| 15:21.34 | Juggie | i'm sure you could get a fed gov job in canada |
| 15:21.49 | Qwell | don't you kinda need to be like... |
| 15:21.54 | Qwell | a Canadian citizen? |
| 15:22.08 | Juggie | oh ya like thats hard. |
| 15:22.21 | file | seanbright: we could switch identities! |
| 15:22.26 | Qwell | file: good plan |
| 15:22.26 | seanbright | file: you read my mind |
| 15:22.33 | Qwell | but then you'd have to do Windows development |
| 15:22.47 | Juggie | gay marriage is allowed, and file is single :) |
| 15:22.49 | seanbright | to be a canadian citizen you just need to smoke a couple joints or something |
| 15:23.01 | seanbright | iirc |
| 15:23.35 | seanbright | Qwell: web development |
| 15:23.41 | seanbright | Qwell: but with VS.NET |
| 15:23.49 | Qwell | excuses :p |
| 15:23.54 | Qwell | seanbright: it's okay, we still love you |
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| 15:24.20 | Juggie | Qwell, and no you dont need to be a canadian citizen |
| 15:24.25 | Juggie | you just need to be a permenent resident |
| 15:24.39 | Juggie | Who can apply: |
| 15:24.39 | Juggie | Canadian Citizens and Permanent Residents residing in the National Capital Region - That is, persons residing or working in Eastern Ontario or Western Québec, who have a home or business postal code beginning with K1 to K7, K8A to K8H, K0A to K0J, J8L to J8Z, J9A to J9J, or J0X. |
| 15:25.08 | seanbright | Qwell: thanks for saying that. i'm high maintenance lately. |
| 15:25.22 | Juggie | seanbright, eugh :) |
| 15:25.28 | Qwell | :p |
| 15:25.39 | Juggie | why havnt you hired him yet |
| 15:25.57 | russellb | he hasn't applied |
| 15:26.27 | Juggie | but hes an irc dude shoudnt he get preferential treatment? :P |
| 15:26.35 | seanbright | heh |
| 15:26.37 | Juggie | seanbright, ask for the Corydon76-dig arangement... work @ home :) |
| 15:26.42 | russellb | and I don't know if we have convinced him that moving to AL wouldn't be so bad, heh |
| 15:26.55 | Juggie | lots of ppl work @ home :) |
| 15:27.13 | russellb | those are very special cases, and we _strongly_ prefer not. |
| 15:27.21 | seanbright | i want to be hired as 'sean bright' not as 'another developer' |
| 15:27.33 | seanbright | and i don't think i've contributed to the point where i can be 'sean bright' |
| 15:27.35 | Juggie | seanbright, ok so you have to get to the top of the karma list |
| 15:27.36 | seanbright | if that makes sense |
| 15:27.40 | Juggie | then you can work at home like Corydon76 |
| 15:28.35 | seanbright | you're like my agent now |
| 15:28.53 | Juggie | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.54 | russellb | Juggie: looking for a cut? |
| 15:28.57 | seanbright | Juggie: work something out with these guys. you get 10%. |
| 15:29.01 | Juggie | is there a finders fee! |
| 15:29.14 | russellb | i think seanbright got here on his own, heh |
| 15:29.30 | Juggie | nah i laid a trail of c code and he followed it |
| 15:29.46 | seanbright | yeah... it went like this... |
| 15:29.56 | seanbright | "what the hell is that guy doing?!?" /server irc.freenode.net |
| 15:30.10 | seanbright | and the rest is history |
| 15:30.12 | seanbright | :) |
| 15:30.18 | russellb | srsly? |
| 15:30.22 | seanbright | no |
| 15:30.45 | seanbright | i honestly don't remember why i signed on initially |
| 15:31.36 | seanbright | i was on #asterisk and russellb told me i should join #asterisk-dev |
| 15:31.50 | seanbright | that is all i recall |
| 15:31.59 | seanbright | meeting time. |
| 15:32.00 | russellb | giving me credit is a good answer |
| 15:32.20 | russellb | "seanbright: what progress have you made this past week?" ... "Um, none, I've been working on asterisk." |
| 15:33.07 | ariel_ | russellb, the question is for the Dev section of asterisk as I am getting ready to develop something for this issue. |
| 15:33.30 | russellb | maybe, maybe not. It can be done in configuration ... |
| 15:34.20 | ariel_ | not very well as you loose state of the phones. When transfering calls round to different asterisk boxes. |
| 15:34.41 | Juggie | russellb, i didnt even know digium took applicants, i thought it was hired based on expirence w/ people |
| 15:34.59 | russellb | sure, we're always open to resumes ... |
| 15:35.08 | Qwell | Juggie: besides...people still have to apply |
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| 15:35.30 | Juggie | is happy with his coushy goverment job :) |
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| 15:36.27 | Juggie | but i'm sure you woudnt want me anyway, i'm lazy :) |
| 15:36.43 | russellb | not if you're lazy, no :) |
| 15:36.51 | russellb | <3 anyway |
| 15:37.14 | russellb | laziness doesn't fly around here. |
| 15:37.20 | russellb | too much to do |
| 15:37.31 | Juggie | i'm a product of my enviroment here... |
| 15:38.01 | Juggie | ps, seanbright is lazy. |
| 15:39.59 | russellb | heh |
| 15:40.08 | russellb | he's doing plenty of work for how much we pay him :-p |
| 15:40.24 | Juggie | i'm not sure his real employer would feel the same way :) |
| 15:54.41 | atis_work | !seen putnopvut |
| 15:55.32 | Qwell | atis_work: he's out this week |
| 15:55.40 | atis_work | oh, thanks |
| 15:56.58 | atis_work | anybody want's to hear architectural problem on app_queue/ringall/local channels/answer macro? |
| 15:57.23 | jsmith | atis_work: What, no penalties in there? |
| 15:57.24 | jsmith | ducks |
| 15:57.33 | atis_work | nope :p |
| 15:58.19 | atis_work | throws a penalty against jsmith |
| 16:00.00 | atis_work | ok, i'll just wait for putnopvut then |
| 16:00.52 | jsmith | Yeah, he's your best bet |
| 16:04.06 | Corydon76-dig | Juggie: actually, laziness sometimes makes for good programmers |
| 16:04.43 | Corydon76-dig | Write code so you don't have to do something manually twice |
| 16:05.56 | Juggie | true true :) |
| 16:06.11 | Corydon76-dig | At one of my previous jobs, I almost singlehandedly wrote the entire online content editing system for a large online bookseller |
| 16:06.32 | Corydon76-dig | Because I got tired of the director of content asking m to make changes |
| 16:06.47 | Juggie | hahahah ya.. sometimes lazyness can create good things :) |
| 16:07.51 | Corydon76-dig | func_odbc is a good example of my laziness. I completely overengineered a solution, to prevent from having to write yet another custom ODBC query module |
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| 16:08.33 | Corydon76-dig | I'm quite serious when I say that func_odbc was written with the sole purpose of being a blacklist |
| 16:11.36 | Juggie | some times lazyness is the mother of invention |
| 16:15.31 | russellb | heh, that's a lot less lazy than writing an AGI to do your db lookup :-p |
| 16:15.33 | jameswf-home | you know what ztconfig needs... a -s <span> switch to allow selective reload |
| 16:15.49 | jameswf-home | s/ztconfig/ztcfg/ |
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| 16:22.25 | tzafrir_laptop | jameswf-home, bristuff's zaptel patch includes such a change |
| 16:22.38 | Qwell | selective? |
| 16:23.17 | tzafrir_laptop | http://updates.xorcom.com/astribank/bristuff/1.4/bristuff-current/patches/zaptel/ztcfg-start_stop |
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| 16:23.32 | tzafrir_laptop | ztcfg -s <span_num> |
| 16:23.41 | Qwell | what's selective about it? |
| 16:23.44 | tzafrir_laptop | What is it good for? |
| 16:24.00 | tzafrir_laptop | shut down just one specific span. Not all of them |
| 16:24.27 | Qwell | oh |
| 16:24.56 | jameswf-home | tzafrir_laptop: I could care less for my self none of my boxes are mission critical so I am not going to take the time to patch but end users who have such boxes and want to reduce "dropped calls" durring changes you know.. |
| 16:26.09 | jameswf-home | tzafrir_laptop: any reason that patch cant be mainlined? |
| 16:27.18 | russellb | we can't accept anything from that patch set |
| 16:27.22 | russellb | it's not properly licensed .. |
| 16:27.23 | Corydon76-dig | jameswf-home: There's a way to do that in Asterisk that is in process |
| 16:28.27 | tzafrir_laptop | not that this patch is difficult to rewite |
| 16:28.38 | Corydon76-dig | jameswf-home: we'd actually like to get some more testing on issue 3450 |
| 16:28.46 | tzafrir_laptop | anyway, I still don't see what it is good for |
| 16:35.40 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: ping |
| 16:36.07 | russellb | pong |
| 16:36.45 | Corydon76-dig | Since you interceded on behalf of 13241, I wanted to check with you before closing it out |
| 16:37.18 | russellb | M13241 |
| 16:37.20 | MuffinMan | [assigned] [Asterisk] Applications/app_voicemail/NewFeature 0013241: [patch] [sound] Ability to force forwarding WITH comment reported by jaroth (Karma: +18.75) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13241 |
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| 16:37.49 | Corydon76-dig | This is the UPenn patch for disabling the option of prepending VM, to always require a prepend |
| 16:38.34 | russellb | reading the comments |
| 16:38.44 | Corydon76-dig | I don't know if they got tired of waiting for the sound, or if they've reconsidered their position, but it appears they are no longer wanting this change |
| 16:39.13 | russellb | shrugs |
| 16:39.17 | russellb | they said they don't want it anymore, so close away i guess |
| 16:39.20 | Corydon76-dig | The sound is in the queue, and I'll probably leave the sound to be recorded |
| 16:39.30 | russellb | what they wanted was to prevent forwarding a message without adding a comment |
| 16:39.34 | russellb | they wanted to _force_ the comment |
| 16:39.37 | Corydon76-dig | Right |
| 16:39.46 | russellb | shrugs |
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| 16:40.03 | russellb | if they don't care, then close, unless you changed your mind and think you'd like to add it once you get the sound |
| 16:40.38 | Corydon76-dig | I think the sound is worth having, at least |
| 16:40.46 | russellb | nods |
| 16:41.02 | Corydon76-dig | At the tone, please record an introduction to the forwarded message. When done, press the pound sign. |
| 16:41.10 | russellb | sounds good |
| 16:41.13 | Corydon76-dig | Al escuchar el tono, por favor grabe la introduccion para el mensaje re-enviado. Al terminar, presione el signo de gato. |
| 16:41.22 | Corydon76-dig | à la tonalité, veuillez enregistrer une introduction pour le message transféré. Lorsque terminé, appuyez sur le carré. |
| 16:41.56 | eliel | gato = numeral |
| 16:42.13 | jsmith | I thought gato was a cat :-) |
| 16:42.26 | Corydon76-dig | eliel: that's from our usual Spanish translator |
| 16:42.29 | eliel | yes, it is a game I think in some country |
| 16:42.51 | eliel | And they call # = gato |
| 16:42.59 | eliel | in Argentina we call it numeral. |
| 16:43.02 | Corydon76-dig | jsmith: I thought that, too, but I'm not a native speaker, either |
| 16:43.26 | jsmith | eliel: Good to know... |
| 16:43.39 | jsmith | spent a couple of years in South America, but none of it was telecoms related |
| 16:43.56 | Corydon76-dig | Maybe 'signo de gato' and 'signo del gato' mean two different things |
| 16:44.16 | eliel | ta-te-ti = tic tae toe = gato |
| 16:44.41 | eliel | Al terminar presione la tecla numeral |
| 16:45.00 | Corydon76-dig | Like me in HS Spanish, where I accidently used "montar el caballo" instead of "montar a caballo" and the teacher smirked |
| 16:45.20 | eliel | heh |
| 16:45.29 | Corydon76-dig | Apparently the first form is mounting a horse as if you're going to have sex with it |
| 16:45.38 | eliel | yeaph |
| 16:45.40 | Qwell | ... |
| 16:46.22 | Juggie | odd, this issue was closed a long time ago http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=4711 (i was just looking over some old bugs i submitted) but svnbot posted to the bug in jan 08, however looking at the commit, it was done in 2005, any idea why that would happen? |
| 16:46.36 | Qwell | Juggie: merges |
| 16:46.46 | Qwell | or mirroring hiccup |
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| 16:48.18 | Corydon76-dig | Juggie: someone made an oopsie in January, and we had to replay the log to remove it... so every commit that referenced a bug that predated svnbot got an append |
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| 16:56.37 | Juggie | Corydon76-dig, ah. |
| 16:56.50 | Juggie | glad it wasnt me |
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| 17:49.14 | jtodd | what, jared, you get TWO lunches? |
| 17:49.57 | seanbright | 18:57.25 <russellb> elixer: join us in #asterisk-dev if you have any questions |
| 17:50.06 | seanbright | sept 4, 2007 |
| 17:50.09 | seanbright | there we go. |
| 17:50.15 | Juggie | hahaha |
| 17:50.17 | Juggie | sucker |
| 17:50.39 | seanbright | almost a year? |
| 17:50.41 | seanbright | holy crap |
| 17:51.04 | Juggie | dont feel too bad, i've been ircing for like 12 years |
| 17:51.25 | russellb | wow, doesn't feel like it has been that long ... |
| 17:51.31 | seanbright | i've been IRCing since i was 15 |
| 17:51.41 | seanbright | just didn't realize it was a year since i've been around here |
| 17:53.13 | seanbright | i hope #asterisk-dev gets me something nice for our anniversary |
| 17:53.13 | Juggie | seanbright, same on like 14.4 dialup |
| 17:53.18 | seanbright | Juggie: indeed |
| 17:53.29 | seanbright | undernet was my network of choice... probably explains a lot. |
| 17:53.43 | Juggie | i was efnet |
| 17:53.55 | Juggie | netsplits were fun |
| 17:54.00 | seanbright | that makes us mortal enemies. |
| 17:54.02 | seanbright | :) |
| 17:54.29 | Juggie | but did you run eggdrop? :P |
| 17:54.32 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:54.33 | seanbright | i did |
| 17:54.58 | seanbright | in fact, the first time i *ever* ran ./configure was for eggdrop |
| 17:55.08 | Juggie | same for me probally. |
| 17:55.18 | seanbright | we might be the same person |
| 17:55.23 | Juggie | russellb, you've been nominated to go on jtodd's cross canada tour |
| 17:55.31 | Juggie | i dont think so, did you have highspeed in 95? |
| 17:55.38 | russellb | Juggie: sweeeeeeeeet! |
| 17:55.41 | seanbright | you got me |
| 17:56.13 | Juggie | my old isp (now defunt and bought out by rogers) was the first in canada to deploy 2-way hybrid cable, and hence internet. |
| 17:56.47 | Juggie | because we had gotten cable so late, the network was new enough to support it with minimal modifications |
| 17:57.00 | Juggie | i had a zenith cable modem the size of a vcr, it was kickass |
| 17:57.05 | Juggie | and furthmore unthrottelable. |
| 17:57.12 | Juggie | they had 0 control over it |
| 17:57.13 | seanbright | hot |
| 17:58.29 | jpeeler | http://www.pastebin.ca/1173191 , can somebody tell me what's going on with this bt? |
| 17:59.14 | Juggie | hah |
| 17:59.17 | Juggie | something very bad |
| 17:59.47 | Juggie | i dont see anything useful in there other then urg_handler getting num=23 |
| 17:59.56 | jpeeler | that the define for SIGURG |
| 17:59.56 | Juggie | the rest is all system calls |
| 18:00.24 | jpeeler | well specifically i've never seen <signal handler called> |
| 18:01.44 | russellb | looks like the thread got a signal to wake it up from poll ... and it's in the middle of handling that cancel signal ... |
| 18:01.54 | russellb | shrugs |
| 18:05.31 | Corydon76-dig | Don't signal handlers get their own stack? |
| 18:06.25 | russellb | not according to this bt, heh |
| 18:06.36 | russellb | unless stack frame #9 is indicating that somehow |
| 18:08.00 | tzafrir_laptop | I have a problem building libss7 as a deb package: |
| 18:08.20 | tzafrir_laptop | if test $(id -u) = 0; then /sbin/ldconfig; fi |
| 18:08.56 | tzafrir_laptop | Debs are built under fakeroot . id returns there 0 |
| 18:09.30 | tzafrir_laptop | I suspect recent libpri will have the same issue |
| 18:10.10 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: it should probably also check DESTDIR/INSTALL_PREFIX |
| 18:15.31 | tzafrir_laptop | looks like a good idea |
| 18:19.45 | tzafrir_laptop | the extra ln -s command should not be needed |
| 18:19.53 | tzafrir_laptop | let's see... |
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| 18:36.30 | tzafrir_laptop | Qwell, 13313 |
| 18:44.40 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: permission denied? |
| 18:45.05 | Qwell | oh, fakeroot isn't like a chroot...got it |
| 18:46.00 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: also, iirc, libpri is the same way |
| 18:46.09 | tzafrir_laptop | (in fact, fakeroot can't fake root good enough to support chroot) |
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| 19:10.33 | tzafrir_laptop | What is ss7type? Where is ansi used? Where is itu? |
| 19:10.43 | tzafrir_laptop | Is it US vs. Europe? |
| 19:24.49 | eliel | Corydon76-dig: If we use ast_strdup() we also need to pass ast_free instead of free for the extension destruction. |
| 19:25.02 | eliel | M13312 |
| 19:25.04 | MuffinMan | [closed] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/Subscriptions 0013312: crash when subscribe to pattern match for a hint reported by pj (Karma: +6.50) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13312 |
| 19:26.16 | Corydon76-dig | eliel: no, we don't |
| 19:26.58 | Corydon76-dig | eliel: it's already taken care of, this whole thing of free -> ast_free is a red herring. It is completely unnecessary |
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| 19:27.17 | seanbright | and now, that much more inconsistent. |
| 19:27.23 | russellb | blinks |
| 19:27.31 | russellb | that was the _ENTIRE_ reason ast_free was created in the first place |
| 19:27.40 | russellb | until it got changed in trunk, in which case free and ast_free were the same |
| 19:27.43 | Corydon76-dig | It was? |
| 19:27.50 | russellb | in which case you had to start using ast_free_ptr in those cases |
| 19:27.51 | russellb | nods |
| 19:29.14 | Corydon76-dig | Well, that patch was for trunk, so... unnecessary |
| 19:29.57 | russellb | well, you can't pass NULL to strdup() |
| 19:30.11 | russellb | it's safe in ast_strdup() but not strdup() |
| 19:30.44 | Corydon76-dig | Right |
| 19:31.23 | russellb | but the free() thing, yeah, I think it has to be ast_free_ptr |
| 19:31.28 | russellb | or it will crash if you have MALLOC_DEBUG on |
| 19:31.29 | Corydon76-dig | eliel: if you're going to be messing with lists that aren't using the linked list macro, you need to do the conversion as a part of the janitor |
| 19:32.02 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: I think that's all handled with defines inside astmm.c |
| 19:32.22 | eliel | Corydon76-dig: you are talking about chan_oss isnt it? |
| 19:32.28 | Corydon76-dig | eliel: right |
| 19:32.44 | russellb | ok, well ... free wrappers() have been used for avoiding crahes as far back as 1.2 (which is as far back as I just checked) |
| 19:33.04 | russellb | so if it's safe in trunk, i'd be curious what changed to make it safe |
| 19:35.24 | Corydon76-dig | Oh, I think I see |
| 19:35.39 | Corydon76-dig | eliel was talking about one thing, and you're talking about something else |
| 19:35.57 | russellb | lol, sorry |
| 19:35.59 | russellb | jpeeler: ping |
| 19:36.05 | russellb | jpeeler: your chan_dahdi changes do not compile for me ... |
| 19:36.12 | jpeeler | yikes |
| 19:36.29 | russellb | compile without DEBUG_THREADS |
| 19:36.35 | eliel | I was talking about your last commit... |
| 19:36.36 | russellb | or perhaps with them |
| 19:36.54 | jpeeler | had it on, so turning it off |
| 19:37.06 | russellb | jpeeler: static ast_mutex_t ss_thread_lock = { PTHREAD_MUTEX_INITIALIZER }; |
| 19:37.14 | russellb | don't declare a static mutex that way ... do it like this ... |
| 19:37.22 | russellb | AST_MUTEX_DEFINE_STATIC(ss_thread_lock); |
| 19:37.29 | jpeeler | ok |
| 19:38.17 | Corydon76-dig | jpeeler: More specifically, BSD in particular has different mutex structures which depend upon malloc occurring |
| 19:38.40 | russellb | not exactly. They depend on ast_mutex_init() being called |
| 19:38.48 | russellb | as opposed to having a static initializer |
| 19:38.57 | russellb | which does (???) internally at runtime |
| 19:39.17 | russellb | or rather, pthread_mutex_init() |
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| 19:40.57 | jpeeler | not sure i understand what was wrong |
| 19:42.02 | russellb | declaring a mutex is not as simple as you wrote it |
| 19:42.20 | russellb | 1) The contents of ast_mutex_t are different depending on compile time options |
| 19:42.34 | russellb | 2) You can not always statically initialize them (only on Linux) |
| 19:42.39 | russellb | It was #1 that caused the build to fail |
| 19:42.49 | russellb | but #2 would have caused it to not work on anything non-linux |
| 19:43.15 | jpeeler | i see |
| 19:43.42 | russellb | If you look at how AST_MUTEX_DEFINE_STATIC works, you'll see ... it's pretty bizarre looking |
| 19:43.53 | jpeeler | yes, i'm looking at it now |
| 19:44.12 | russellb | It accounts for both #1 and #2 ... |
| 19:44.34 | russellb | for #2, on platforms where static init is not allowed, it uses a constructor to init the mutex |
| 19:44.43 | russellb | a constructor gets fired when the file comes into scope |
| 19:44.49 | russellb | so, either when the module loads or when asterisk starts |
| 19:44.55 | russellb | and the constructor calls ast_mutex_init() |
| 19:45.12 | russellb | (BTW, the use of constructors is almost always a terrible idea) |
| 19:45.41 | russellb | (because you have no control over the execution order of constructors, which leads to problems that are near impossible to fix without just getting rid of the use of constructors) |
| 19:45.45 | russellb | annnnnnnnnnnnnyway. |
| 19:46.24 | jpeeler | good to know |
| 19:47.37 | russellb | Personally, I consider every use of them in Asterisk, aside from those used for registering the module info when a module loads, as abuse of the functionality |
| 19:47.38 | russellb | :) |
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| 19:49.11 | russellb | is not a fan of non-deterministic code |
| 19:52.34 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: well, you could also use the constructors to initiate a scheduler that would determine the proper order in which to initialize code |
| 19:53.12 | Corydon76-dig | Multilevel marke^W constructor codes |
| 19:53.32 | russellb | but if you're going to have some code do initialization like that, why do you need constructors at all? |
| 19:53.43 | russellb | it seems like way overkill |
| 19:54.12 | Corydon76-dig | It's overkill for everything but debugging |
| 19:54.32 | russellb | because you're going to run some code at a defined point in your program to actually do the initialization in the right order |
| 19:54.34 | russellb | why not just ... do that |
| 19:54.40 | Corydon76-dig | or debugging your debugging routines... ;-) |
| 19:54.42 | russellb | instead of having all this crap that registers things |
| 19:54.52 | russellb | shrugs |
| 19:54.54 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: well, that's the point |
| 19:54.55 | russellb | seems like a huge mess to me. |
| 19:55.12 | jpeeler | what's the merge process: trunk -> 1.6.0 -> 1.6.1 |
| 19:55.16 | Corydon76-dig | or debugging for debugging your debugging routines |
| 19:55.24 | russellb | trunk -> 1.6.0, trunk -> 1.6.1 |
| 19:55.25 | seanbright | trunk -> 1.6.0, trunk -> 1.6.1 |
| 19:55.27 | seanbright | damn it |
| 19:55.31 | jpeeler | ha |
| 19:55.55 | seanbright | always winning the silver... |
| 19:56.07 | Corydon76-dig | debugging the debugging for debugging your debugging routines? |
| 19:57.01 | Corydon76-dig | BTW, this is always more fun in assembly |
| 19:59.15 | eliel | yes, and writing it in hexa (0x20 = int, 0x90 noop)... |
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| 20:13.50 | jpeeler | it is considered bad if there are so many conflicts from a merge, to just block it from that version and apply the changes manually? |
| 20:14.18 | russellb | nope .. |
| 20:24.07 | Corydon76-dig | jpeeler: even when that happens, I keep the merge note and redo the patch. That way, the relationship between the two patches is kept |
| 20:24.46 | jpeeler | hmm, i'll remember that next time |
| 20:24.54 | jpeeler | in this case i don't think the relationship is too important |
| 20:25.32 | Corydon76-dig | Eh, the relationship isn't important until 6 months later. ;-) |
| 20:25.51 | jpeeler | no seriously, just renaming |
| 20:26.03 | Corydon76-dig | Ah |
| 20:55.34 | jpeeler | russellb: static ast_cond_t ss_thread_complete = PTHREAD_COND_INITIALIZER valid? |
| 20:55.57 | russellb | I'm not sure if that works on non-linux or not ... |
| 20:56.11 | russellb | you may have to ast_cond_init() / ast_cond_destroy() it in load_module / unload_module |
| 20:56.19 | russellb | you can always boot a VM and try |
| 20:56.24 | russellb | or I could try it on this mac, heh |
| 20:56.40 | russellb | actually, no i can't. |
| 20:56.49 | russellb | we're talking about chan_dahdi, heh |
| 20:57.03 | russellb | look around and see if code does that anywhere else ... |
| 20:57.22 | file | I do not believe it does |
| 20:57.50 | jpeeler | yeah not so much |
| 20:58.34 | eliel | It will be nice not to save in history evil commands like 'restart now' .... ups.. :-( |
| 20:58.43 | russellb | lol |
| 20:59.20 | russellb | we should print out a dialog that asks if you're sure, and presents only the Yes button |
| 20:59.38 | eliel | heh |
| 21:00.59 | bkruse | sigtrap ctrl+c to echo "haha. You cannot do that!" |
| 21:01.19 | russellb | something like this ... http://pastebin.ca/1173431 |
| 21:01.39 | bkruse | ol |
| 21:01.43 | bkruse | I like. |
| 21:02.08 | russellb | It's the best work I've done in months |
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| 21:06.13 | eliel | if we run 'restart when convenient', allow to continue creating new channels but send them all to a playback(SystemGoingDown), and mark that channels as 'safe_to_hangup'... |
| 21:06.35 | eliel | :-) |
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| 22:02.08 | snuff-home | mm russellb was it you doing work on mac compat stuff.. |
| 22:02.18 | russellb | looks around |
| 22:02.19 | russellb | maybe |
| 22:02.21 | russellb | but have to go |
| 22:02.25 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut |
| 22:02.38 | Corydon76-dig | He's on vacation this week |
| 22:02.59 | snuff-home | thinks russ did a 'pink panther'.. exit stage left even.. |
| 22:06.01 | jsmith | Any idea what this means? chan_zap.c: Ring requested on channel 0/22 already in use on span 2. Hanging up owner. |
| 22:06.51 | JunK-Y | sounds like the bchan is already in use? |
| 22:12.48 | Corydon76-dig | jsmith: it generally means that the channel was not properly hung up and the 2 sides do not agree on the channel status |
| 22:13.31 | Corydon76-dig | Asterisk thinks a call is still active, and the telco wants to use that channel to set up another call |
| 22:13.35 | jsmith | Corydon76-dig: Gotcha... so I'm trying to help someone who gets that after dialing a call out a PRI, getting dead air, and hanging up |
| 22:15.02 | Corydon76-dig | jsmith: possibly, Asterisk thinks the channel was up and tries to hang it up. The other side doesn't think a call was ever signalled up, so it refuses to let Asterisk hang up a call that never existed from its perspective |
| 22:15.43 | jsmith | Right. |
| 22:16.10 | Corydon76-dig | "Hang this up" "Denied. I have a call for you". "That channel is in use. Denied." |
| 22:16.45 | jsmith | Yup, I get it. |
| 22:17.04 | jsmith | Sounds like it's time for... Captain D-Channel and his trusty side-kick, T-Bird |
| 22:17.26 | jsmith | (Or should his sidekick be named Tracey) |
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