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15:02.54JunK-Yis it me or the EVENT_FLAG_VERBOSE isnt used anymore?
15:03.33JunK-Ysame for EVENT_FLAG_LOG
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22:51.17mvanbaakheya all
22:54.35snuff-homeello mvanbaak
22:56.12mvanbaakhowz you ?
22:59.02snuff-homenot too bad
22:59.26snuff-homehas attempted to convert jingle/gtalk to astobj2..
22:59.37snuff-homegoing slowly slowly
22:59.38mvanbaakwe just had 'family day'
23:00.02mvanbaakah, astobj2
23:00.08mvanbaak<---- goes mad
23:00.29mvanbaakit gave me great headaches when I tried to use it in multiparking
23:01.34mvanbaakthat one is still done in astobj1
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23:06.45snuff-homehehe
23:07.14snuff-homeis looking over murfs 11602 astobj2 conversion of chan_sip for hints
23:07.29mvanbaakyeah
23:07.58JunK-Y<PROTECTED>
23:08.00mvanbaakthat's the way to do it
23:08.08mvanbaakJunK-Y: I hope so too
23:08.19mvanbaakI know I did at my wedding
23:08.39JunK-Yim not married yet :)
23:08.43mvanbaakalmost 5 years ago
23:08.52snuff-homemm now married.. might not be doing late night * coding ;)
23:09.11snuff-homeget off that pc ur home
23:09.13mvanbaakJune 16th will be my '5 years married' marker
23:09.27mvanbaaksnuff-home: it's 1:09 AM here ;)
23:10.24snuff-homeits 9:10 am here
23:10.52mvanbaaksaturday ?
23:11.11mvanbaakSun Apr  6 01:11:10 CEST 2008
23:11.21snuff-homesunday
23:11.44mvanbaakah, so I'm 8 hours behind you
23:13.08snuff-home:)
23:13.15snuff-homeaustralia is generally in front of most
23:13.59mvanbaakwell, it's time to go to bed^wspend some time with the lady
23:14.23snuff-homemm later mvanbaak
23:14.30mvanbaaklatero
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23:26.01my007mshello all
23:26.44my007mspleas i Q which make me do much many search and can not find answer till now why most if not all respective project use C and C++ or Java
23:27.15my007msasterisk sure is one of this project
23:32.24JunK-Yand whats ur question exactly?
23:34.13my007mswhy not select object oriented programming languages like C++ or java
23:35.09my007msall big project go with C
23:35.28my007mslike asterisk and much other
23:42.25snuff-homemy007ms, truely programmer preference
23:43.10my007msbut thy lose all what Object Oriented  offer
23:44.21snuff-homebut so what.. just because people want others to use OO language?
23:44.40JunK-Ydo you really think asterisk could be written in java?
23:44.57JunK-Ywe want our calls deliver right now, not in 2 days :)
23:45.17my007ms:)
23:45.18JunK-Yit has been started few years ago, C++ was not that popular.
23:45.20outtoluncthe person that started the projects used what they knew, most would not want the headache of rewriting it all over in 'some other deemed better lang' down the road
23:45.47JunK-Yand a lot of contributions come after on that core, and so on.
23:46.00my007msbut even new project opened still use C and not C++
23:46.01snuff-homeasterisk is now like 300k lines
23:46.16JunK-Ywhat would the huge benefits of C++ anyways?
23:46.58JunK-Yive to jet. see ya
23:47.24my007msi don't know.If time come back do u think that C is the most good choices to go with
23:48.00snuff-homeit depends what sort of app you want my007ms.. its all about the app
23:48.27outtoluncit is called 'if' for a reason, no sense in beating the horse 'if' it is dead
23:48.27my007mssnuff-home, i was learn C but many ppl keep telling me to go for C++ and OO
23:48.49snuff-homeif you want to do desktop programming
23:49.01snuff-homeby all means java/c++
23:49.11my007msso i do search and find that all good project use C
23:49.58outtoluncwonders if that implies all that do not use C, are bad <G>
23:50.07my007msno i learn programming for security/Linux in fact
23:50.13snuff-homeC can let u get away with 'bad habits'.. requires programmer to do more
23:52.15snuff-homebasically.. learn whatever you want..
23:52.39snuff-homeu can learn C but its also worth while to learn OO like java/c++
23:52.44outtoluncisn't lucky enough to only have to learn 1 computer language
23:53.21outtoluncbut if you do, i suggest C <G>
23:54.27snuff-homesuggests u avoid LISP programming.. i couldn't take it.. but ppl use it for AI programming
23:54.55my007msthe most interesting/confused  thing most of new project new open still use C
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