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| 10:06.57 | shadebob | hi |
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| 10:32.01 | oej | Morning |
| 10:34.35 | mvanbaak | hey oej |
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| 10:54.41 | mvanbaak | oej: everything worked out ok with the company to takeover the .nl node of you know who ? |
| 10:55.02 | oej | mvanbaak: No, failure |
| 10:55.09 | mvanbaak | ugh :( |
| 10:55.13 | oej | mvanbaak: Still trying to get a grip over the situation |
| 10:55.18 | oej | mvanbaak: Stay tuned |
| 10:55.23 | mvanbaak | I will |
| 10:55.34 | mvanbaak | I had failure as well |
| 10:55.43 | mvanbaak | customer forced me to migrate stuff |
| 10:56.59 | mvanbaak | porting numbers to different ITSP now |
| 11:05.07 | RoyK | oej: ping |
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| 11:08.53 | oej | RoyK:pong |
| 11:09.01 | oej | mvanbaak: I can understand that. |
| 11:09.31 | mvanbaak | oej: I'm sorry. I can understand them as well. 2 weeks without outgoing phone is just not acceptable |
| 11:09.50 | oej | No, it's not |
| 11:10.07 | oej | mvanbaak: I don't think they understand. |
| 11:10.42 | mvanbaak | ah well. |
| 11:10.52 | mvanbaak | damn, porting is expensive |
| 11:11.20 | mvanbaak | there goes my newyear extras |
| 11:12.45 | RoyK | mvanbaak: talking about voop? |
| 11:13.01 | mvanbaak | RoyK: yup |
| 11:14.06 | RoyK | any idea what went wrong with them? I thought they had quite a few customers |
| 11:15.20 | mvanbaak | you'll have to talk to oej about that. All I know is they are no longer responding to me and outbound calls are not possible for one of our customers |
| 11:15.26 | mvanbaak | so I'm moving them to 12connect |
| 11:16.25 | RoyK | ok |
| 11:16.47 | RoyK | I tried asking oej, but he didn't reply :P |
| 11:17.59 | mvanbaak | he's busy |
| 11:18.23 | mvanbaak | dont forget almost all his asterisk work was sponsored by voop |
| 11:19.01 | mvanbaak | hhmm, I read the prices wrong ! |
| 11:19.10 | mvanbaak | porting 10 numbers is only 48 euro |
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| 11:20.44 | oej | Sorry, was busy on phone |
| 11:21.34 | oej | Yes, need new sponsors... |
| 11:21.38 | oej | "Will hack for food" :-) |
| 11:22.10 | mvanbaak | "will work for bandwidth" |
| 11:22.14 | mvanbaak | food is overrated ;) |
| 11:30.20 | _ys | hi oej |
| 11:30.38 | oej | Hi _ys |
| 11:30.43 | RoyK | mvanbaak: if it's similar to norway, porting a range of numbers is one port, but porting 10 individual numbers are 10 ports |
| 11:31.06 | mvanbaak | RoyK: it's a range, that's what I read wrong |
| 11:31.21 | mvanbaak | I was calculating 10 numbers. and that's a lot of money |
| 11:37.40 | _ys | hm. "ERROR[45448]: astobj2.c:109 INTERNAL_OBJ: user_data is NULL" if send action=ping via web manager interface (trunk) |
| 11:41.54 | sergee | oej: Hi! every even element in req->headers[] is NULL because of double increment in add_header(), is it intended behaviour or very small bug? |
| 11:42.00 | sergee | M11648 |
| 11:42.01 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/General 0011648: Extra increment of req->headers in add_header function reported by makoto http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=11648 |
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| 12:07.52 | oej | back |
| 12:08.21 | oej | That's weird, Sergee, never seen that before |
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| 13:04.50 | sergee | oej: that was very big patch http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/branches/1.4/channels/chan_sip.c?view=log#rev31274 probably you missed something.. |
| 13:17.22 | oej | Back |
| 13:18.16 | mvanbaak | wb |
| 13:32.22 | jsmith | oej: Have a nice Christmas? |
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| 13:42.44 | jsmith | oej: Anyway, I"m off to Ikea, supporting your country and all :-) |
| 13:43.56 | mvanbaak | lol |
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| 14:25.42 | lmadsen | w00t ikea :) |
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| 15:31.05 | bweschke | hey file! happy belated Boxing Day! |
| 15:31.17 | file | eep! hello |
| 15:31.30 | lmadsen | bweschke: well hello there! |
| 15:31.44 | bweschke | hey lmadsen! how goes it? |
| 15:32.03 | lmadsen | oh it goes not too bad. Just waiting for moms to get ready, then heading out to exchange some clothes for some smaller ones |
| 15:33.10 | bweschke | nice |
| 15:33.26 | putnopvut | lmadsen: so do you have multiple mothers or do you just refer to your one mother as "moms" ? |
| 15:33.37 | lmadsen | putnopvut: yes |
| 15:33.42 | putnopvut | Ah, clear as a bell. |
| 15:33.53 | lmadsen | I refer to my single mother as moms :) |
| 15:34.10 | putnopvut | ooh, she's single... |
| 15:35.41 | lmadsen | not what I meant :) |
| 15:35.46 | file | moms? I never called my mother moms |
| 15:36.00 | file | I call her mother or female parental unit |
| 15:36.07 | lmadsen | file: I meant answering 'yes' to an either/or question |
| 15:36.11 | file | ah |
| 15:36.13 | lmadsen | FPU |
| 15:36.16 | lmadsen | :) |
| 15:36.17 | file | then yes |
| 15:38.17 | mvanbaak | I call my mom FPU as well |
| 15:38.33 | mvanbaak | and refer to their house as PUR |
| 15:39.00 | Qwell | "that woman I lived with for 18 years" |
| 15:39.24 | mvanbaak | that's a nanny |
| 15:39.32 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 15:39.34 | Qwell | nanny's take care of you |
| 15:39.35 | Qwell | :p |
| 15:39.57 | mvanbaak | at least they should |
| 15:40.10 | mvanbaak | as long as her name is not Fran |
| 15:40.12 | Qwell | not a very good nanny otherwise.. |
| 15:40.13 | lmadsen | and if their hot and not related to you, they should give you your first sexual experience |
| 15:40.23 | lmadsen | s/their/they're |
| 15:40.30 | Qwell | lmadsen: that's clearly mandatory... |
| 15:40.37 | lmadsen | obviously |
| 15:40.51 | mvanbaak | yeah, that's part of "nanny's take care of you" |
| 15:41.55 | lmadsen | heh |
| 15:42.09 | De_Mon | but they can't marry your father till afterwards |
| 15:42.24 | De_Mon | then your son is also your brother and you have a great story to tell |
| 15:42.28 | De_Mon | *step brother* |
| 15:43.57 | bweschke | wow... we went downhill quick in the 10 mins I stepped away .. :-) |
| 15:44.10 | putnopvut | If you marry a woman, and your father marries her step-daughter, then you are your father's step-father, meaning that you're your own grandfather.... |
| 15:44.53 | lmadsen | creating loops in the family tree is fun |
| 15:44.54 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: recalling Homer and Jethro? |
| 15:45.12 | Corydon76-dig | "I'm My Own Grandpa" |
| 15:45.31 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: I don't get the reference. |
| 15:45.43 | Corydon76-dig | You haven't heard the song, then |
| 15:45.49 | putnopvut | Nope. |
| 15:47.36 | mvanbaak | I'll have to ask my dad how he will put that in our family tree program |
| 15:47.56 | Corydon76-dig | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_My_Own_Grandpa |
| 15:52.18 | Qwell | I had a weird thought last night. An adult will likely never hear the phrase "You're going to be a nephew." |
| 15:53.05 | Qwell | the circumstances that it would take a quite exceptional. your parent would have to be an only child, and their parent would have to be young enough to have a second kid |
| 15:53.07 | Corydon76-dig | It's happened before |
| 15:53.13 | Qwell | s/a/are/ |
| 15:53.19 | Qwell | stupid bot |
| 15:54.20 | Corydon76-dig | If a set of parents have kids when they are young, and the first kid also has a kid while young, then the parents may have an uncle after the nephew is born |
| 15:54.20 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: an adult though? |
| 15:54.29 | putnopvut | circumstarences is my new favorite word. |
| 15:54.36 | Qwell | sure, but add 18 years to that |
| 15:54.58 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: even more likely back when it was common for 13 yo's to get married and pregnant |
| 15:54.59 | Qwell | so 18 + 16 + 16 - your grandparent would be at least 50 |
| 15:55.07 | putnopvut | I've heard of many people having uncles younger than they are. |
| 15:55.12 | putnopvut | (or aunts) |
| 15:55.25 | Qwell | putnopvut: yeah, that's fairly common - the trick is having an adult be a new nephew :D |
| 15:55.54 | lmadsen | you guys are weird :) |
| 15:55.57 | putnopvut | Yeah, that would be a bit odd. I |
| 15:56.06 | Corydon76-dig | Well, if an adult married a 13yo, then he could be a new nephew by marriage |
| 15:56.24 | Qwell | that doesn't count |
| 15:56.33 | Qwell | doesn't...wtf is xchat highlighting that? |
| 15:56.46 | Corydon76-dig | especially in the South or in Utah |
| 15:58.20 | Corydon76-dig | Wasn't that Jerry Lee Lewis' bag? |
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| 16:42.57 | shadebob | hi |
| 16:43.24 | file | moo. |
| 16:47.04 | mvanbaak | powercow ! |
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| 19:57.26 | file | bweschke: well well, look at you go |
| 19:57.47 | bweschke | file: haven't had this much fun in months! |
| 19:59.28 | putnopvut | w00t |
| 19:59.58 | bweschke | davevg-btwtech says backport is working |
| 20:00.12 | davevg-btwtech | yay |
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| 20:24.44 | tzafrir_home | tzanger, ping |
| 20:25.24 | tzafrir_home | (no, that is not a typo) |
| 20:26.35 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 20:26.48 | jmls | bweschke: ping |
| 20:26.58 | bweschke | jmls: hey - what up ? |
| 20:27.07 | jmls | see you are doing work on jabber |
| 20:27.13 | bweschke | jmls: yep |
| 20:27.32 | jmls | what in trunk is more stable .. ? |
| 20:27.35 | jmls | than 1.4 |
| 20:27.49 | bweschke | from what we've seen thus far, keeping idle connections is far more stable |
| 20:28.04 | jmls | ahhh. We turned of idle detection |
| 20:28.16 | jmls | We use openfire |
| 20:29.29 | bweschke | from the best we could tell in debugging res_jabber in 1.4 - it seemed like the error was actually coming from iksemel |
| 20:30.07 | bweschke | and my understanding of it is that phsultan has changed things so they don't use the network transport layer in iksemel/gnutls anymore but opt for openssl instead in trunk version? |
| 20:30.15 | bweschke | I could be wrong there |
| 20:30.16 | jmls | yeah, I worked with mog a lot when he was writing res_jabber. iksemel was a right bitch |
| 20:30.34 | jmls | we had to turn off tls for jabber to work properly |
| 20:30.55 | bweschke | ya - with the backport we seem to be connected SSL/TLS just fine now |
| 20:31.01 | jmls | hmm |
| 20:31.14 | bweschke | davevg-btwtech you are connected via SSL/TLS, on your openfire ? |
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| 20:31.37 | davevg-btwtech | right now it is connected via SSL |
| 20:31.41 | bweschke | cool |
| 20:31.45 | jmls | are you going to commit the jabber changes back into 1.4 ? |
| 20:31.59 | davevg-btwtech | i checked the openfire sessions page |
| 20:32.08 | bweschke | I guess that's up to the 1.4 maintainers group |
| 20:32.14 | bweschke | as to whether or not that would happen |
| 20:32.24 | bweschke | it's a fairly healthy amount of code change |
| 20:32.26 | bweschke | and still some cleanup to do |
| 20:32.28 | jmls | what are the reasons for your branch ? |
| 20:32.33 | bweschke | well |
| 20:32.49 | bweschke | the intent wasn't necessarily to do with the backport |
| 20:32.56 | tzafrir_home | is there any other jabberd that supports jingle? |
| 20:33.20 | bweschke | we've got a click to call platform we've been working on with a client that is going to use Manager Originate action and then send call progress via XMPP |
| 20:34.01 | tzanger | tzafrir_home: here |
| 20:34.20 | jmls | I wanted to add an option to the manager event to use jabber instead of the manager socket |
| 20:34.37 | bweschke | jmls: that should be do-able as well |
| 20:34.40 | tzafrir_home | tzanger, I would appreciate your comment on http://bugs.digium.com/11445 |
| 20:34.49 | jmls | it gives much more flexibility |
| 20:34.53 | bweschke | jmls: agree |
| 20:35.45 | tzafrir_home | bweschke, be aware the "Originate" is a very powerful thing on Asterisk |
| 20:36.09 | tzafrir_home | If someone can originate, that one can do almost anything on the Asterisk server |
| 20:36.30 | bweschke | tzafrir_home: very aware of it |
| 20:36.42 | jmls | I was thinking of having a manger user defined as a "jabber" connection |
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| 20:37.32 | bweschke | jmls: we've thought about that too - and might very well go there soon - but said client is on a really tight timeline for functionality and I've already put a bunch of bullet holes in their schedule being tied up with other stuff the past few months |
| 20:37.55 | bweschke | so I'm trying to just get it "functional" today and then get fancy in the coming weeks |
| 20:37.58 | jmls | cool |
| 20:39.06 | jmls | I was just pointing out that if you intercepted the manager event call at the manager.c level (where it writes to the socket) you probably don't need to change any other program. |
| 20:39.23 | jmls | but then, I'm probably teaching you to suck eggs. |
| 20:39.31 | jmls | and you know far more than I do, anyway ;) |
| 20:40.40 | davidnicol | mysterious problem with Playback and RTP streaming? I am escalating myself here from #asterisk. I like the music on hold on mailto:IAX2/guest@misery.digium.com/asterisk-dev |
| 20:41.19 | tzafrir_home | davidnicol, see /topic |
| 20:42.09 | bweschke | jmls - no, you're absolutely right .. streaming events via XMPP seemed relatively easy .. but accepting commands back in place of the TCP sockets didn't seem all too easy and was going to take a little more work |
| 20:42.43 | davidnicol | ah yes -- tier pi support -- sorry -- I'll have to make my owbn patch then and NOT DISTRIBUTE IT!!!! bwah ha ha ha |
| 20:43.06 | russellb | you are certainly free to do so. |
| 20:43.38 | bweschke | davidnicol: you are certainly free to do just that |
| 20:44.04 | jmls | bweschke: I'm sorry, I thought that you were just wanting to send call progress via jabber, not receive messages and act on them. That is something else entirely (and something that I really want as well!) |
| 20:44.37 | jmls | let me know, I should be able to do some serious testing on that in the new year. |
| 20:45.02 | bweschke | jmls: yes - the first round implementation is to send call progress on the specific originate action received from a manager connection to the specified OrigJID parameter in the manager action |
| 20:46.18 | jmls | bweschke: make sure that you can split newexten from newchannel ;) |
| 20:47.04 | bweschke | jmls: I'm not using any manager events at all for the progress - I'm going to send them from within the thread spawned to manage the originate action |
| 20:48.38 | bweschke | no - it's cool ... and again - I think longer term we do want to send manager events via XMPP.. but right now we'd have a harder time trying to filter out those that we don't want vs. just putting in those that we do want to send within the originate action |
| 20:49.42 | snuff-home | mm.. jmls he can split the newexten from newchan by using my patch on mantis i made for u and not have to worry about newexten events at all :) |
| 20:51.03 | mvanbaak | I'm really wondering what you will see in your bitlbee session with this new branch |
| 20:57.57 | tzanger | tzafrir_home: I've never had ot do that |
| 20:58.13 | bweschke | what's bitlbee ? |
| 20:58.17 | tzanger | zaptel on the PC just accepted them as a span, and then in zapata.conf I told asterisk they were CAS (i.e. fxs/fxo) |
| 20:58.33 | file | bweschke: IM client that you connect to via IRC |
| 20:58.45 | bweschke | ah |
| 20:58.59 | tzafrir_home | bitlbee proxies instant messangers as an IRC server |
| 20:59.34 | tzafrir_home | tzanger, you didn't have to add a span= line? |
| 20:59.50 | tzanger | in zaptel.conf, yes, but not zapata.conf |
| 21:00.00 | tzanger | oh wait |
| 21:00.02 | tzanger | I'm wrong |
| 21:00.13 | tzanger | zaptel.conf had span= *and* fxsks=1-288 (or whatever) |
| 21:00.20 | tzanger | and zapata.conf had matching fxs_ks=1-288 |
| 21:00.26 | tzafrir_home | right |
| 21:00.48 | mvanbaak | bweschke: what will be send to my jabber client |
| 21:00.53 | mvanbaak | that's basically what I meant |
| 21:01.17 | tzanger | tzafrir_home: why would you have to add that signaling support specific to the span though? I guess I don't understand |
| 21:01.20 | bweschke | if you use it ... XML call progress messages about the originate action u used it with |
| 21:01.52 | bweschke | the intent here is basically to create a scalable click to call platform across multiple asterisk machines |
| 21:02.00 | mvanbaak | ah |
| 21:02.31 | bweschke | I did a spiel on it at Astricon |
| 21:02.36 | bweschke | finally getting around to the "meat" of it |
| 21:02.37 | tzanger | tzafrir_home: I think I see what the patch is trying to do |
| 21:02.47 | tzanger | kin dof "passthough" |
| 21:05.15 | mvanbaak | bweschke: I wasn't at astricon :( |
| 21:08.47 | mvanbaak | time to watch a movie |
| 21:08.49 | mvanbaak | latero |
| 21:11.18 | bweschke | see ya |
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| 21:32.30 | snuff-home | mm t38 stuff on mantis is lookin promising |
| 21:40.12 | De_Mon | how so? |
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| 21:58.06 | snuff-home | ppl reporting that it works with the latest patch in a bug report fine |
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