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| 01:18.52 | JunK-Y | merry xmas, going out of the town for couple of days, see you next week. |
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| 12:31.07 | mvanbaak | ok, the fix for the fix for the security fix |
| 12:31.16 | mvanbaak | shouldn't we release 1.2.26.2 ? |
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| 15:47.48 | Qwell | mvanbaak: we did |
| 15:53.14 | tzafrir | Qwell, what about http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk?view=rev&rev=94661 ? |
| 15:53.41 | tzafrir | And the one before it for 1.4 |
| 15:53.43 | Qwell | dunno |
| 15:55.01 | Corydon76-dig | Wait until Russell gets back from vacation |
| 15:55.49 | Corydon76-dig | or until he signs on from SC, at least |
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| 16:26.30 | Greek-Boy | hi |
| 16:26.41 | Greek-Boy | what is a good editor for C programming? |
| 16:26.57 | tzafrir | vim |
| 16:27.12 | tzafrir | Be sure to use ctags |
| 16:27.20 | tzafrir | ('make ctags'?) |
| 16:27.29 | Greek-Boy | hmmm |
| 16:27.30 | Greek-Boy | i see |
| 16:27.40 | Greek-Boy | and for windows? |
| 16:27.45 | tzafrir | vim :-) |
| 16:28.26 | Greek-Boy | lol |
| 16:28.50 | Greek-Boy | great |
| 16:28.52 | Greek-Boy | downloading it |
| 16:29.05 | Greek-Boy | tzafrir what part of asterisk do u code? |
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| 17:38.22 | tzafrir | Greek-Boy, I'm mostly in Zaptel |
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| 17:44.14 | JerJer | i hate fucking total incompetence |
| 17:45.14 | JerJer | i had a major phone company 'senior tech support' moron tell me he has never seen two VIA headers in a sip message. Am I wrong in calling this moron out for having no fucking clue about SIP ? |
| 18:40.27 | Greek-Boy | JerJer he's probably a commercial loser |
| 18:40.28 | Greek-Boy | :) |
| 18:40.54 | Greek-Boy | tzafrir its my dream to develop for asterisk but I dont have coding experience. How/where to start? |
| 18:42.44 | tzafrir | One obvious pointer is http://asterisk.org/developers |
| 18:43.50 | tzafrir | Can you think of a small thing you want to fix? |
| 18:44.06 | Greek-Boy | before fixing anything |
| 18:44.21 | Greek-Boy | I need to learn to code in C :) |
| 18:45.41 | tzafrir | Do you know any other language? |
| 18:46.47 | Greek-Boy | no :( |
| 18:54.08 | Greek-Boy | so |
| 18:54.11 | Greek-Boy | should I learn to code first? |
| 18:54.38 | tzafrir | Well, you have to start some place |
| 18:55.37 | Greek-Boy | where do I start? |
| 18:56.55 | Greek-Boy | lol |
| 18:57.06 | Greek-Boy | I was trying to read the ast source code with a normal text editor |
| 18:57.24 | Greek-Boy | now that I opened it with vim I can easily read the different parts of code |
| 18:57.26 | Greek-Boy | in colours |
| 18:57.29 | Greek-Boy | vim rules |
| 19:00.53 | Corydon76-dig | Greek-Boy: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pcp3/ |
| 19:01.08 | Greek-Boy | thanks Corydon76-dig |
| 19:01.15 | Corydon76-dig | It's the book I use to teach C programming |
| 19:05.56 | Greek-Boy | Corydon76-dig how long does your average student take to learn C ? |
| 19:09.20 | Corydon76-dig | Somewhere around 16 hours of classroom time, over the course of 8 weeks (2 hours/class, 1 class/week) |
| 19:09.45 | Greek-Boy | not bad at all |
| 19:10.10 | Greek-Boy | so I could probably learn it in a week |
| 19:13.57 | Corydon76-dig | Please understand that I'm not including some of the more advanced topics in that time, not am I including the time it takes for my students to complete their homework |
| 19:14.45 | Greek-Boy | i understand |
| 19:14.50 | Greek-Boy | but its a start for me |
| 19:14.51 | Corydon76-dig | So for someone familiar with other strongly typed languages, a week, perhaps, but I'd say closer to 2 |
| 19:15.55 | Corydon76-dig | Pointers are usually the first hump to get over, followed by threading |
| 19:19.30 | Greek-Boy | whats after threading? |
| 19:19.59 | Corydon76-dig | I don't know of a big hump after threading |
| 19:20.23 | Corydon76-dig | Multiplexing, perhaps? |
| 19:20.41 | Greek-Boy | what about flowcharts and logic? |
| 19:20.59 | Corydon76-dig | Those are teaching tools, not difficulties in understanding |
| 19:21.10 | Greek-Boy | ok |
| 19:22.09 | Corydon76-dig | Successful programmers don't absolutely need flowcharts; they can be helpful for mapping something out on a board, but they're tools to an end, not the understanding in itself |
| 19:22.52 | Corydon76-dig | i.e. you don't necessarily need a flowchart to understand, but if you don't understand, a flowchart probably won't help |
| 19:23.39 | Corydon76-dig | and for threading, a flowchart actually gets in the way |
| 19:24.03 | Qwell | multi-dimensional flowchart? |
| 19:24.27 | Corydon76-dig | Doesn't matter, a flowchart doesn't represent two tasks happening in parallel very well |
| 19:24.47 | Qwell | I was being facetious :) |
| 19:24.51 | Corydon76-dig | Heh |
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| 19:29.20 | Greek-Boy | :P |
| 19:29.59 | Qwell | to explain the above, in case people didn't get it - the extra dimension would have been time |
| 19:34.56 | Greek-Boy | Corydon76-dig what do u code in ast? |
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| 20:22.40 | file | made it okay I take it? |
| 20:22.46 | Deeewayne | yes! |
| 20:22.48 | file | yay |
| 20:23.07 | Deeewayne | left Nashville at 10 am, arrived at my brothers in NJ at 11:30 pm |
| 20:23.21 | file | nifty |
| 20:24.08 | Deeewayne | I'm pushing linux on the entire extended family |
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| 21:21.19 | snuff-home | Qwell: you around? |
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| 21:45.58 | Greek-Boy | tzafrir do u agree that we need more work for SS7 on asterisk? |
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| 22:41.29 | tzafrir_home | Greek-Boy, check trunk asterisk/chan_zap and libss7 to see the work done on SS7 |
| 23:24.43 | Greek-Boy | with regard to the CLI is there a coding standard to follow? |
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