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| 01:38.39 | Damin | jtodd: How goes your SIP patch? |
| 01:38.57 | jtodd | There's a branch, but no real updates since then. Feel like testing it? |
| 01:39.18 | jtodd | Take a look at the bug, and just check out the branch. It's pretty easy to implement - just one or two additional lines in sip.conf |
| 01:41.03 | Damin | jtodd: I have a high volume dialer customer that will be SIP to SIP and I figured I'd throw 1.4 at it w/ your patch and run it through the tests.. |
| 01:41.16 | Damin | jtodd: Couldn't hurt.. |
| 01:41.29 | jtodd | Please do! That would be great. Maybe it might get committed to TRUNK after that. |
| 01:45.30 | russellb | i gave it a "C coding" review |
| 01:45.36 | russellb | but not yet a protocol level review .. |
| 01:45.59 | russellb | so after fixing up some things, i'm happy with the code |
| 01:47.06 | russellb | so yeah, some more people reporting successful test results |
| 01:47.13 | JunK-Y | 'core dump channel foo' ?? |
| 01:47.30 | JunK-Y | a core show channel foo is already displaying chanvars, no? |
| 01:47.32 | russellb | and one more pass in code review to make sure everything looks like it does what it is supposed to ... |
| 01:47.37 | russellb | and then we'll be good to go for commit to trunk |
| 01:49.44 | JunK-Y | russellb: i will try to sit next week-end for M10724, so we can do the ast_log(), ast_verb() and ast_debug() with ast_channel passed. |
| 01:54.23 | russellb | sounds good .. |
| 01:55.46 | jtodd-dinner | russelb: thanks. |
| 01:56.38 | JunK-Y | just review each patch and commit sounds okay to you? |
| 01:57.20 | russellb | M10724 |
| 01:57.22 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Resources/res_features 0010724: [patch] use NEW_CLI for CLI commands. reported by eliel http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10724 |
| 01:58.19 | russellb | yeah, someone needs to review them and commit them |
| 01:58.42 | russellb | i'll see if i can do it sometime this week .. |
| 01:59.03 | JunK-Y | dont waste ur time on these patches, i will take care of these ones. |
| 01:59.14 | JunK-Y | concentrate on more interesting stuff. |
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| 02:39.14 | file | moo |
| 02:42.28 | snuff-work | oink |
| 02:44.58 | russellb | mooooooooo |
| 02:45.46 | file | hi |
| 02:46.08 | russellb | how are you? |
| 02:46.55 | file | great |
| 02:47.00 | file | had a nice night out |
| 02:47.02 | file | you? |
| 02:48.01 | russellb | cool |
| 02:48.07 | russellb | i'm alright ... very tired this evening |
| 02:48.25 | russellb | played a pool match tonight ... won 15-5 |
| 02:48.40 | file | neat |
| 02:50.19 | russellb | yessss |
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| 09:12.13 | Zeeek | anyone alive? |
| 09:12.25 | snuff-work | ping.... |
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| 11:03.06 | vpanayotov | hi. I asked in the "asterisk" channel but maybe here is better place to ask my question |
| 11:03.20 | vpanayotov | I have a problem with automon feature. when tried to use it I got this error: http://pastebin.ca/730573 |
| 11:03.34 | vpanayotov | stack trace: http://pastebin.ca/730575 |
| 11:03.47 | vpanayotov | I think that the problem is that for some reason the default automon parameters are separated with "|" separator |
| 11:03.56 | vpanayotov | and it seems that the asterisk expects "," |
| 11:04.04 | vpanayotov | is this known problem |
| 11:05.17 | vpanayotov | a simple patch that seems to fix the problem: http://pastebin.ca/730577 |
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| 12:34.55 | JunK-Y | thats odd, with current trunk, when running safe_asterisk, when selecting DONT OPTIMIZE, no more core appears in /tmp. |
| 12:36.57 | SimonPerreault | JunK-Y: ulimit -c ? |
| 12:38.35 | JunK-Y | 65000 |
| 12:38.57 | SimonPerreault | I usually find my cores in /, not /tmp |
| 12:39.22 | SimonPerreault | JunK-Y: do you get a core with kill -3 ? |
| 12:40.23 | JunK-Y | im not sure to see how QUIT is related, let me see |
| 12:41.05 | SimonPerreault | the default action for a SIGQUIT is to coredump |
| 12:41.21 | SimonPerreault | so you should get a core file somewhere |
| 12:41.22 | JunK-Y | killall -3 asterisk => no more core file. |
| 12:41.34 | SimonPerreault | hrm... |
| 12:42.12 | JunK-Y | thats weird, since that behavior is really new. |
| 12:42.17 | JunK-Y | ive to jet to university. |
| 12:43.08 | JunK-Y | see ya dude. |
| 12:43.56 | SimonPerreault | bye |
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| 13:27.25 | blitzrage | morning all |
| 13:29.45 | tzafrir | SimonPerreault, you run asterisk as root? |
| 13:30.20 | SimonPerreault | tzafrir: sure |
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| 13:43.55 | puzzled | hi |
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| 14:43.27 | joetester | Hi d00dz |
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| 14:43.45 | putnopvut | hey joe t! |
| 14:45.27 | joetester | Hi put! |
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| 14:49.49 | ManxPower | Has zaptel (the version I'm trying is 1.2.20.1) removed support for kernel 2.4? |
| 14:51.47 | russellb | no |
| 14:53.52 | ManxPower | ewird. |
| 14:55.38 | ManxPower | base.c:38:29: linux/workqueue.h: No such file or directory |
| 14:55.44 | russellb | ah |
| 14:55.52 | russellb | that is definitely 2.6 specific |
| 14:55.56 | ManxPower | my glibc-devel doesn't have it on a 2.4 box, but does on a 2.6 box. |
| 14:56.01 | russellb | some of the newer drivers don't support 2.4 i think ... |
| 14:56.07 | ManxPower | uh, I get that from a "make clean && make" |
| 14:56.23 | ManxPower | what do you recommend for commenting out drivers? |
| 14:56.39 | Corydon76-dig | vim Makefile |
| 14:56.44 | russellb | heh, yeah |
| 14:57.14 | Corydon76-dig | There's a MUCH better way of doing it in 1.4 |
| 14:57.26 | ManxPower | looks like it is wctdm24xxp that is the problem |
| 14:57.40 | russellb | that would make sense |
| 14:57.49 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: <3 |
| 14:58.01 | russellb | glad somebody likes it ... |
| 14:58.45 | ManxPower | so really Zaptel does not build without modifications on a 2.4 system |
| 15:01.12 | russellb | guess so. |
| 15:01.35 | ManxPower | that kind of sucks |
| 15:01.40 | russellb | ugh .. |
| 15:01.47 | ManxPower | You might want to document it. |
| 15:02.05 | russellb | you might want to use a kernel that isn't 5 years old |
| 15:02.28 | ManxPower | That would require a lot more time and work than commenting out 5 lines from the Zaptel make file. |
| 15:02.35 | ManxPower | But you might still want to document it. |
| 15:03.14 | ManxPower | ok, more than 5 lines |
| 15:04.48 | Qwell | there is a linux24 Makefile target |
| 15:05.17 | russellb | Qwell: !!! |
| 15:05.17 | Qwell | not sure what that changes, but.. |
| 15:05.19 | russellb | what are you doing here?! |
| 15:05.24 | Qwell | I'm not here |
| 15:05.36 | russellb | oh :) |
| 15:06.50 | Corydon76-dig | Where are you, then? |
| 15:06.57 | Qwell | over there |
| 15:07.17 | ManxPower | does linux24 make file work? |
| 15:07.18 | Corydon76-dig | Is that anywhere near Guntersville? |
| 15:08.26 | Corydon76-dig | That would be 'make linux24' |
| 15:08.50 | ManxPower | [root@pbx-1 zaptel-1.2.20.1]# make linux24 |
| 15:08.50 | ManxPower | make: *** No rule to make target `linux24'. Stop. |
| 15:09.05 | ManxPower | Nevermind. I see nobody here uses 2.4 systems anymore. |
| 15:09.32 | Corydon76-dig | Does Debian stable even use 2.4 anymore? |
| 15:13.27 | russellb | i think we should completely remove support for 2.4, actually. |
| 15:13.30 | russellb | :-p |
| 15:14.30 | Juggie | did anyone get an email survey for *-con, then try to do it and it was closed already? |
| 15:15.14 | ManxPower | russellb: I can live with that, just document it |
| 15:15.43 | SimonPerreault | Juggie: i did it while it was open ;) |
| 15:16.49 | russellb | ManxPower: understood, thanks for the feedback |
| 15:17.19 | russellb | for anyone interested, i just wrote a hack that lets you jitterbuffer SIP calls to applications in 1.4 |
| 15:17.38 | Qwell | only sip? |
| 15:17.44 | russellb | well, anything |
| 15:17.46 | Qwell | not the chan_local thing? |
| 15:17.47 | Qwell | gotcha |
| 15:17.51 | russellb | the chan_local thing, yes |
| 15:18.36 | ManxPower | the jitterbuffer only works with bridged calls? |
| 15:18.55 | russellb | yep, that's the way it was written ... |
| 15:19.45 | russellb | so i added jitterbuffer support to chan_local so you can put a local channel in between a SIP channel and apps |
| 15:20.32 | ManxPower | half the calls in my systems use chan_local 8-) |
| 15:22.14 | russellb | heh, cool |
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| 15:34.48 | joetester | Do call features work with cisco phones? |
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| 15:36.07 | russellb | joetester: no. |
| 15:36.14 | russellb | no features work with cisco phones. |
| 15:36.49 | joetester | ? For real? |
| 15:36.55 | ManxPower | joetester: the stuff in features.conf (DTMF based calll control hack for phones too stupid to support the feature on their own) should work |
| 15:36.55 | russellb | yes. |
| 15:37.24 | ManxPower | but obviouisly that is a #asterisk-users question |
| 15:37.30 | joetester | That's what I meant... the stuff in features.conf |
| 15:38.07 | ManxPower | joetester: then why did you not say features.conf |
| 15:38.33 | joetester | Because I had no idea there was another type of feature! What is that stuff you speak of, phones that have this by themselves? |
| 15:38.54 | ManxPower | Asterisk has HUNDREDS of features. |
| 15:39.12 | joetester | Well I thought that saying features always refered to features.conf |
| 15:39.41 | joetester | And the stuff related to it, such as my amazing automixmonitor, which you should try |
| 15:39.47 | ManxPower | nope. |
| 15:40.17 | ManxPower | Cisco phones running Skinny does not support the Call Forward Feature |
| 15:40.34 | ManxPower | or the speed dial features |
| 15:40.49 | Qwell | speeddial should work |
| 15:41.05 | joetester | I converted them to sip because skinny freaked me out. |
| 15:41.34 | ManxPower | Qwell: what features are still not supported? |
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| 15:41.38 | Qwell | no idea |
| 15:42.25 | joetester | I just noticed something odd. |
| 15:48.13 | jmls | go on, you're killing me ... |
| 15:53.47 | Corydon76-dig | You noticed 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13.... |
| 15:54.40 | SimonPerreault | omg that's bad |
| 15:56.17 | Corydon76-dig | Welcome to my world |
| 15:57.08 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: no, what's in Guntersville? |
| 15:58.12 | Corydon76-dig | Somebody from LUNA was offering up an Ultra 5... a friend wanted me to pick it up, but as soon as I saw how far south of hsv it was, I said it was out of the question |
| 15:58.29 | joetester | False alarm, I noticed all wrong, sorry. |
| 15:58.49 | Corydon76-dig | Guntersville is in the Huntsville area in the same way that Bowling Green is in the Nashville area |
| 16:10.33 | jmls | Corydon76-dig: does realtime odbc use the same "engine" as func_odbc ? |
| 16:11.22 | Corydon76-dig | Yes |
| 16:11.43 | jmls | well, that doesn't explain things then |
| 16:11.48 | Corydon76-dig | In terms of res_odbc, yes |
| 16:12.02 | Corydon76-dig | There are multiple levels, though |
| 16:12.12 | jmls | ever since I took realtime queue members out of the equation, my odbc issues have gone away |
| 16:12.13 | Corydon76-dig | res_config_odbc is a different engine |
| 16:12.30 | joetester | func_odbc rules! |
| 16:12.42 | jmls | oh, what does realtime queues use ? |
| 16:12.59 | Corydon76-dig | res_config_odbc on top of res_odbc |
| 16:13.09 | Corydon76-dig | func_odbc is also on top of res_odbc |
| 16:13.34 | jmls | ahhh, so there _may_ be a problem with res_config_odbc .. |
| 16:13.37 | Corydon76-dig | res_config_odbc is considered a "realtime engine" |
| 16:14.01 | Corydon76-dig | Unlikely |
| 16:14.22 | jmls | I've just made 100,000 calls through a cross over E1 connection from a dialler engine into queues. Not a single problem |
| 16:14.49 | jmls | previously, when I introduced queues, the asterisk system would segfault |
| 16:15.16 | jmls | (new queues are static, with dynamic members - no realtime queues or members) |
| 16:15.43 | Corydon76-dig | Could also be an issue in the realtime portion of app_queue |
| 16:15.55 | Corydon76-dig | Perish the thought... a bug in app_queue.... |
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| 16:21.06 | jmls | heh |
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| 17:43.38 | jsmith | outtolunc: w00t! You're using 1.4! |
| 17:44.43 | outtolunc | kinda |
| 17:45.00 | outtolunc | converted my home dev box |
| 17:45.20 | outtolunc | now i just have to figure out the tor2 issues |
| 17:46.48 | outtolunc | it was really weird, it would install, and work, come back the next day (or 2 days later, it doesnt' get much use) and the channel bank(s) would be in yellow alarm |
| 17:47.43 | outtolunc | zap show status was weird also (i don't have the output but i will reinstall the t400p and report back if it is still doing it this install) |
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| 18:22.16 | jsmith | outtolunc: Let me know... I'm happy to help look at it |
| 18:24.39 | putnopvut | Do the ast_build_string functions dynamically allocate space for the string it is building? |
| 18:25.05 | putnopvut | s/Do the ast_build_string functions/Does the ast_build_string function/ |
| 18:26.52 | russellb | putnopvut: no |
| 18:27.08 | russellb | putnopvut: you pass it a buffer, and the size it has remaining |
| 18:27.19 | russellb | or rather, a buffer, and its size |
| 18:27.24 | russellb | it's just that both get updated |
| 18:27.30 | russellb | something like that, i forget |
| 18:27.34 | putnopvut | All right. |
| 18:27.35 | russellb | as the whole interface is different in trunk |
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| 18:38.51 | jsmith | tzafrir: Question for you... any idea why doing a "make install" no longer installs a sample zaptel.conf? |
| 18:39.22 | tzafrir | because it destorys a working setup |
| 18:39.47 | russellb | if [ ! -f /etc/zaptel.conf ] ; then ... |
| 18:40.37 | jsmith | tzafrir: Not if /etc/zaptel.conf doesn't exist... if makes it so that the initscripts don't work |
| 18:40.47 | blitzrage | russellb: stop being so logical |
| 18:41.01 | russellb | blitzrage: sorry :( |
| 18:41.07 | tzafrir | that's a separate incorrect behaviour in the init script, IMHO |
| 18:41.36 | tzafrir | you don't need to run ztcfg for ztdummy . |
| 18:41.53 | tzafrir | And you don't need it for wctc4xxp (right?) |
| 18:42.29 | jsmith | The way it is now, if /etc/zaptel.conf doesn't exist, the initscript won't even load the modules (let alone try to run ztcfg) |
| 18:42.46 | tzafrir | Which is a bug on its own |
| 18:43.28 | tzafrir | What good is a sample (empty) zaptel.conf ? |
| 18:43.45 | tzafrir | (if you actually have hardware) |
| 18:44.56 | tzafrir | it just hides the fact that you have not yet configured your system |
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| 18:46.08 | tzafrir | So run zapconf at the init.d script if zaptel.conf does not exist but hardware is detected? |
| 18:46.51 | tzafrir | And if hardware is not detected: just modprobe ztdummy to get timing |
| 18:47.38 | tzafrir | ok, well, that's a big change and not for zaptel 1.4.6 |
| 18:47.47 | tzafrir | but what do you think? |
| 18:48.22 | jsmith | OK... let me explain what we're doing here. |
| 18:48.41 | jsmith | At first, the students don't have any hardware in their system. |
| 18:49.54 | jsmith | But since there's no /etc/zaptel.conf file, the initscript doesn't load ztdummy, and so music on hold and meetme don't work |
| 18:52.23 | jsmith | Either 1) the initscript should still load the ztdummy module even if zaptel.conf doesn't exist or 2) the "install" target of the makefile should install the zaptel.conf file if it doesn't exist |
| 18:53.05 | jsmith | For me, it's a no-brainer... what's the harm in installing the sample zaptel.conf if one doesn't already exist? |
| 18:53.16 | jsmith | (That's the old behavior, and it's always been fine) |
| 18:54.14 | jsmith | Plus, we get the following: |
| 18:54.16 | jsmith | I think that the zaptel hardware you have on your system is: |
| 18:54.16 | jsmith | Unknown line at line 5959 |
| 18:54.17 | jsmith | Unknown line at line 5960 |
| 18:54.17 | jsmith | Unknown line at line 5961 |
| 18:54.17 | jsmith | Unknown line at line 5962 |
| 18:54.47 | tzafrir | jsmith, I'd like to go for (1) in the long run. Sadly I'll have to go for (2) in this version |
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| 19:09.09 | tzafrir | jsmith-slc, what version exactly are you using? |
| 19:09.57 | tzafrir | I think that this is already fixed in SVN (a matter of ifeq vs. ifneq , fixed by Qwell, IIRC) |
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| 19:15.42 | blitzrage | oh snap... it's a twilson! |
| 19:17.42 | file | good point |
| 19:20.33 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: seen that tshirthell shirt? |
| 19:20.38 | russellb | don't think so |
| 19:21.02 | directory | lmadsen: how professional of you! |
| 19:21.09 | lmadsen | indeed! |
| 19:21.14 | Corydon76-dig | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=729 |
| 19:21.16 | lmadsen | I'm off to the gym now... back in a bit! |
| 19:21.16 | Juggie | he tries to be profesional |
| 19:21.39 | lmadsen | "tries" being the operative word :) |
| 19:21.41 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: that's terribe |
| 19:21.56 | lmadsen | lol |
| 19:21.57 | Juggie | sweeet |
| 19:21.59 | directory | o m g |
| 19:22.06 | directory | IT'S DRUMKILLA! |
| 19:22.15 | Corydon76-dig | drumkilla: there's also http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=765 |
| 19:22.32 | drumkilla | also terrible |
| 19:22.40 | Corydon76-dig | and http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=848 |
| 19:22.55 | Juggie | russ, how far is NC from Vermont? |
| 19:23.03 | drumkilla | a really really long day |
| 19:23.11 | drumkilla | s/day/way/ |
| 19:23.16 | directory | drumkilla: only... many... hours... to go |
| 19:23.21 | drumkilla | right |
| 19:23.49 | drumkilla | and it could be driven in one really long day i guess :) |
| 19:24.08 | Corydon76-dig | Really? |
| 19:24.13 | drumkilla | i think |
| 19:24.13 | Corydon76-dig | Really really? |
| 19:24.17 | Juggie | or you could be lmadsen and drive from phoenix to toronto in 2days |
| 19:24.35 | putnopvut | You could easily drive from VT to NC in a day. |
| 19:24.35 | Juggie | i might hit up vermont this winter skiing. |
| 19:24.54 | putnopvut | I think it would be like 15 hours, but you could do that in a day. |
| 19:25.54 | drumkilla | something like that |
| 19:28.17 | Corydon76-dig | Let's see... who haven't I pestered to come to PhreakNIC recently? |
| 19:28.40 | directory | did you complete pestering of putnopvut? |
| 19:28.43 | drumkilla | Corydon76-dig: i gave one of the ... advertisments to keith morgan the other day |
| 19:28.59 | Corydon76-dig | directory: he might actually make it up here |
| 19:29.07 | drumkilla | he kind of just looked at me weird |
| 19:29.25 | directory | drumkilla: haha |
| 19:29.35 | drumkilla | i'll come if i can speak about kittens |
| 19:29.46 | directorys_mothe | CRAP |
| 19:29.50 | SimonPerreault | hahaha |
| 19:29.55 | directory | nickname limit! |
| 19:29.56 | directory | PWNED! |
| 19:30.15 | Corydon76-dig | I actually have a speaking slot now |
| 19:30.29 | drumkilla | what are you going to talk about |
| 19:30.45 | SimonPerreault | s/mothe/mom |
| 19:30.45 | Corydon76-dig | Starting a charity |
| 19:30.48 | joetester | lmao! |
| 19:31.12 | Corydon76-dig | i.e. getting the paperwork done, implications, accounting, etc. |
| 19:31.24 | drumkilla | i can haz money? |
| 19:31.44 | Corydon76-dig | drumkilla: Nashville 2600 is a charity, you know |
| 19:32.55 | outtolunc | as long as you focus on 'community education' you should be fine |
| 19:33.13 | mvanbaak | anyone here know about a good python interface to asterisk ? |
| 19:33.14 | Corydon76-dig | In fact, I'm pretty confident that I now know more about accounting than most programmers would ever want to |
| 19:33.17 | mvanbaak | pyst any good ? |
| 19:34.06 | Corydon76-dig | outtolunc: yep, close to it, anyway |
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| 20:25.33 | jsmith-slc | Anybody know what this means? Unified t4xxp-t2xxp driver: probe of 0000:01:02.0 failed with error -12 |
| 20:27.50 | Corydon76-dig | Error 12 is "Unable to allocate memory" |
| 20:29.30 | jsmith-slc | Yeah, this doesn't look good: |
| 20:29.49 | jsmith-slc | PCI: Unable to reserve mem region #1:80@feafef80 for device 0000:01:02.0 |
| 20:29.49 | jsmith-slc | wct4xxp: Unable to request regions |
| 20:29.49 | jsmith-slc | Found TE4XXP at base address feafef80, remapped to d0a80f80 |
| 20:29.49 | jsmith-slc | TE4XXP version c01a016a, burst OFF, slip debug: OFF |
| 20:29.49 | jsmith-slc | modprobe: page allocation failure. order:4, mode:0xd0 |
| 20:30.10 | Corydon76-dig | That's not even in the zaptel drivers, that error is from the kernel itself |
| 20:30.26 | jsmith-slc | Yup, complete with a backtrace :-( |
| 20:30.35 | jsmith-slc | I'd pastebin it if I thought it would be useful |
| 20:30.38 | Corydon76-dig | Try running memtest |
| 20:30.55 | jsmith-slc | I will when we're not using it for the lab server in this bootcamp class |
| 20:31.04 | Corydon76-dig | Ugh, lab server? |
| 20:31.22 | Corydon76-dig | Have a spare machine you can swap the hard drive into? |
| 20:31.42 | jsmith-slc | Yeah, probably... |
| 20:31.55 | Corydon76-dig | That'd probably be the easiest short term fix |
| 20:32.05 | jsmith-slc | Ugh... |
| 20:32.23 | Corydon76-dig | Might be as simple as a bad stick of memory |
| 20:32.27 | jsmith-slc | [root@localhost zaptel]# free -m |
| 20:32.27 | jsmith-slc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.27 | jsmith-slc | Mem: 248 241 6 0 11 62 |
| 20:32.42 | jsmith-slc | Uh, 256 megs doesn't cut it for a lab server |
| 20:32.47 | jsmith-slc | I think I've found my problem |
| 20:33.07 | Corydon76-dig | No swap? |
| 20:33.18 | jsmith-slc | Probably not... I didn't setup this machine |
| 20:33.33 | Corydon76-dig | !! |
| 20:33.35 | outtolunc | haha |
| 20:36.16 | joetester | Argh! Gowingnuts! |
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| 21:00.14 | mvanbaak | my boss is cheap |
| 21:00.27 | mvanbaak | I wanted this staging server for stuff we develop |
| 21:00.38 | mvanbaak | so I handed him a piece of paper with specs |
| 21:00.42 | mvanbaak | what do I get? |
| 21:00.53 | mvanbaak | a xeon 2ghz with 1gb ram and 80gb disk |
| 21:01.44 | mvanbaak | "Our new staging machine should be one that can run a dozen of virtual machines so we can test it on operating system versions and memory setups we have running at our customers" |
| 21:01.45 | Corydon76-dig | callguy: please file a license for contributions |
| 21:02.09 | mvanbaak | where is the 'I need the cheapest box you can get' line there ? |
| 21:02.49 | mvanbaak | for f*** sake, get me that sun4100 with 32gb ram will ya |
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| 21:03.50 | joetester | I should mention something here, it's mostly for file or whoever cares about this bug. About bug 10530, the thing about the fast dtmfs, well I just received a new cisco 7960 which I ran as latest sip. I set it as sip-info dtmfmode and it cured 10530 for some reason. Setting the polycoms as sip-info does not work, it's still messed up. However on sip info, the dtmfs aren't recognized in... |
| 21:03.52 | joetester | ...voicemail... so they go through fine but the machine does not get it itself, which is odd. Unless I missed something. |
| 21:06.12 | joetester | mvanbaak: It could have been worse. My development machine is a Pentium D. :) |
| 21:06.29 | mvanbaak | joetester: dont get me started on dev machine |
| 21:06.36 | mvanbaak | mine is a macmini G4 |
| 21:07.03 | joetester | Wtf is that? |
| 21:07.12 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: those are great little boxes, aren't they? |
| 21:07.14 | mvanbaak | apple macmini with a G4 cpu |
| 21:07.29 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: they make very nice mythtv frontends :) |
| 21:08.16 | SimonPerreault | joetester: we're cpu brothers! |
| 21:08.26 | joetester | Brothers in pain! |
| 21:08.32 | SimonPerreault | ;-( |
| 21:08.43 | joetester | It's not that bad. |
| 21:08.45 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: yes, yes, they do |
| 21:09.05 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: like the post on -users earlier today |
| 21:09.07 | SimonPerreault | mine makes sound when it computes |
| 21:09.19 | mvanbaak | I have some agi stuff in asterisk that controls my mythtv |
| 21:09.31 | mvanbaak | combine that with a macmini running linux as mythfrontend |
| 21:09.33 | SimonPerreault | i try to kill all hungry processes so that i can have a bit of quiet |
| 21:09.38 | mvanbaak | yeah, I like them boxes |
| 21:09.49 | mvanbaak | small, silent, cheap, stable |
| 21:10.21 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: I'd love to see if somebody is successfully using mythbackend on a Mac Mini |
| 21:10.24 | mvanbaak | joetester: I got myself a lenovo T61 a month ago. I really like it |
| 21:10.56 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: nah, not enough storage, and not enough room to hold my double-tuner card |
| 21:11.05 | joetester | Yay former IBM.. they are tough as hell... I have a thinkpad a22e that I'm using right now! |
| 21:11.29 | joetester | It's a 800Mhz celeron! Firefox clogs it up like the mad! |
| 21:11.38 | putnopvut | M10571 |
| 21:11.40 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Applications/app_dial 0010571: SIP hairpin invokes Local within app_dial to produce a crash. reported by dtyoo http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10571 |
| 21:11.41 | mvanbaak | joetester: 15' widescreen, T7100 2Ghz core2duo |
| 21:11.45 | mvanbaak | 2GB ram |
| 21:12.04 | mvanbaak | and still runs 4.5 hours on a battery |
| 21:12.24 | joetester | Nice computer! Your wallet must be extra light! |
| 21:12.30 | mvanbaak | could be more if I replace the dvd-rewriter with that extra battery |
| 21:12.41 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: I just saw your comments on 10571, and I was wondering if you were actually considering committing Ivan's patch. |
| 21:12.41 | mvanbaak | joetester: 1300 euro ex vat |
| 21:13.02 | joetester | It's not that bad... |
| 21:13.09 | mvanbaak | nope |
| 21:13.33 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: I'd like to know if it works if we just distill down to those changes or if one of the debugging statements is triggering an issue |
| 21:13.58 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: appears to just be an initialization issue, if it's just those changes |
| 21:16.24 | callguy | Corydon76: we'll test your revised patch in 10571 tomorrow and see if we get the same results, i couldn't tell at first read whether the rest of what he did would have any effect |
| 21:16.34 | tzanger | evening |
| 21:16.47 | Corydon76-dig | callguy: like I said, he was just commenting out debugging statements |
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| 21:35.48 | jtodd | Is it just my perspective on the Internet or is the SVN server being really dog-slow? |
| 21:41.00 | russellb | dunno, i use one on our LAN :-p |
| 21:41.17 | russellb | it's at bandwidth.com, though ... |
| 21:41.22 | russellb | let me log in and make sure it's not blowing up |
| 21:42.21 | russellb | only about 25% CPU utilization .. |
| 21:43.48 | jtodd | Dunno. It was getting only about 50kbps out of it, when typically it runs 256kbps or better. |
| 21:44.40 | Corydon76-dig | Maybe someone put a bandwidth limiter on it? |
| 21:45.45 | jtodd | Can't say if it's a consistent problem or just a temporary issue - could just be a bottleneck for the moment in one of my upstreams. I'll try tomorrow and if it's a problem I'll start taking notes. |
| 21:47.00 | lmadsen | jtodd: yesterday I was getting 40KB/s download on the audio files, then later I tried and it hit 300KB/s+ |
| 21:47.07 | lmadsen | so one of the servers might have a limiter on it... ? |
| 21:47.13 | lmadsen | not sure if it's distributed or not |
| 21:47.57 | jameswf | is tzafrir home? |
| 21:48.05 | jtodd | lmadsen: OK. I only see one A record coming back in the DNS, so doesn't look like it's distributed across different providers. |
| 21:48.24 | jtodd | lmadsen: but it might be distributed internally, or maybe it's just not eating enough roughage. |
| 21:48.41 | lmadsen | indeed... it was weird... it would bounce between 20 and 40KB/s |
| 21:48.52 | lmadsen | then I tried a bit later, and it went over 300KB/s |
| 21:56.59 | jtodd | downloads.digium.com is pretty speedy, though. (190kbps) |
| 21:57.32 | russellb | ah, downloads.digium.com has more mirrors than svn |
| 22:00.29 | jtodd | Yes, downloads has always been more vain than SVN. "Mirror, mirror, on the net, who is fastest with wget?" |
| 22:00.33 | Juggie | 18:00:19 (784 KB/s) - `asterisk-extra-sounds-en-ulaw-current.tar.gz' saved [13442525/13442525] |
| 22:00.37 | Juggie | get better interweb :) |
| 22:02.15 | Juggie | goes without saying this is up in the great white north too |
| 22:11.25 | lmadsen | well it only did it of course when I was trying to install Asterisk quickly -- as soon as the time restraint was removed, it went fast (Murphy's Law) |
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| 22:28.27 | russellb | must ... write ... code |
| 22:33.03 | tzanger | russellb: I hear ya |
| 22:33.07 | tzanger | must...prepare...lessons |
| 22:33.09 | tzanger | it's difficult |
| 22:33.43 | Corydon76-dig | I have a presentation to write for a week from Saturday |
| 22:34.00 | russellb | plenty of time |
| 22:34.06 | russellb | it's not crunch time until the day of |
| 22:34.15 | russellb | i have one in 2 weeks ... |
| 22:34.23 | symlink | I have one on Friday O.o |
| 22:34.30 | russellb | symlink: ha! |
| 22:34.33 | russellb | symlink: you sure do. |
| 22:34.39 | Corydon76-dig | Yes, but the ones at Digium I can wing |
| 22:34.46 | symlink | but it's on Lumenvox, and I know that all too well... |
| 22:35.30 | russellb | symlink: be prepared, i'm going to email alldigium for this one |
| 22:35.34 | mvanbaak | russellb: cat /dev/urandom > dev/asterisk-trunk/channels/chan_rubbish.c |
| 22:35.41 | symlink | russellb: hawt |
| 22:35.44 | russellb | symlink: since we have enough for room for anyone and everyone interested to come |
| 22:37.37 | tzanger | mvanbaak: is that how app_voicemail came about? |
| 22:37.41 | tzanger | I've always wondered |
| 22:37.49 | mvanbaak | lol tzanger |
| 22:37.53 | mvanbaak | guess so |
| 22:38.10 | Corydon76-dig | Hey, now, app_voicemail is one of the oldest apps |
| 22:38.12 | mvanbaak | tzanger: so, start a project to rewrite it |
| 22:38.13 | russellb | oh come on, it's not /dev/urandom bad. |
| 22:38.18 | russellb | give it some credit, people |
| 22:38.21 | mvanbaak | oh wait, oej already did |
| 22:38.22 | tzanger | mvanbaak: actually, I am part of vm-tng |
| 22:38.33 | russellb | mvanbaak: he didn't rewrite it |
| 22:38.33 | snuff-work | lol tzanger |
| 22:38.42 | russellb | it was cp app_voicemail.c app_minivm.c |
| 22:38.47 | russellb | and then removed a bunch of code, heh |
| 22:38.47 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 22:38.50 | Corydon76-dig | It suffers mainly from getting contributions from thousands of people, some without a clear idea of the implications of their contribution |
| 22:38.52 | russellb | and made some things individual apps |
| 22:39.09 | mvanbaak | russellb: I hear ya |
| 22:39.09 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: or a care ;) |
| 22:39.38 | mvanbaak | and to be honest, app_voicemail.c works pretty ok |
| 22:39.44 | mvanbaak | for most ppl |
| 22:39.55 | russellb | yup |
| 22:40.30 | mvanbaak | I'm thinking bout app_voicemail.py for some time now |
| 22:40.47 | mvanbaak | just to get my python skillz up some more |
| 22:40.54 | mvanbaak | NSA was a good starting point |
| 22:40.58 | russellb | sweet |
| 22:41.13 | russellb | did you see my l33t bot is in svn? |
| 22:41.20 | mvanbaak | uhhuh |
| 22:41.31 | mvanbaak | it's already checkedout on my thinkpad |
| 22:41.39 | mvanbaak | prolly that one checkout you recorded ;) |
| 22:41.39 | russellb | heh |
| 22:41.41 | russellb | it's a silly bot |
| 22:41.55 | mvanbaak | so is NSA |
| 22:42.04 | russellb | mine took less than an hour :-p |
| 22:42.11 | mvanbaak | sometimes it will only echo the first line of input |
| 22:42.22 | mvanbaak | mine took 4 hours |
| 22:42.30 | mvanbaak | but I had 0 python experience |
| 22:42.36 | russellb | nice |
| 22:42.46 | mvanbaak | the way python looks at indentation blew me off |
| 22:42.52 | mvanbaak | if bla: |
| 22:43.03 | mvanbaak | <space><space>statement1 |
| 22:43.11 | mvanbaak | <space><space>statement2 |
| 22:43.18 | mvanbaak | something_not_in_the_if |
| 22:43.24 | mvanbaak | I was like: WTF |
| 22:43.39 | mvanbaak | using space or tab as block thing |
| 22:44.13 | russellb | right |
| 22:44.28 | mvanbaak | and a tab != 4 spaces |
| 22:44.33 | mvanbaak | had some fun there |
| 22:44.38 | Corydon76-dig | Yay, formatting as syntax |
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| 22:45.10 | mvanbaak | I thought I added two methods to the simpleircclient class |
| 22:45.15 | mvanbaak | but that file used spaces |
| 22:45.18 | mvanbaak | and I used tabs |
| 22:45.31 | outtolunc | how dare you |
| 22:45.32 | mvanbaak | so in the end I did only add some comments that looked like code |
| 22:45.33 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 22:46.36 | Corydon76-dig | Gee, I especially enjoyed the flame war today where bkw_ accused someone ELSE of dragging a project's name through the mud. |
| 22:47.26 | outtolunc | that thread is still going (sideways) |
| 22:47.33 | mvanbaak | meh |
| 22:47.50 | codefreeze | hmmm... Murphy's Law was invoked here a half hour ago! the effects will ripple thru space & time! |
| 22:48.00 | snuff-work | mmm.. linux kernel list is more fun.. flames ahoy |
| 22:48.39 | mvanbaak | now I know why I read mailinglist threads based on the subject |
| 22:48.52 | mvanbaak | "not for me, delete" |
| 22:49.26 | tzanger | delete? sacrelige! |
| 22:49.32 | mvanbaak | codefreeze: boxen start to die ? |
| 22:49.33 | tzanger | I have some 60k -users messages |
| 22:49.50 | mvanbaak | tzanger: who needs local copies when there are webarchives |
| 22:49.58 | tzanger | I loathe web archives |
| 22:50.26 | mvanbaak | there's only 1 list I keep local: pf@ |
| 22:51.31 | tzanger | that's weenie of you |
| 22:52.27 | tzanger | I have asterisk-users, -dev, -biz, -doc, -commits, -gui, uclinux-dev, bfin-dev, openswan-users and -dev, bluez-users and -dev, ... what else |
| 22:53.41 | mvanbaak | obsd-misc, obsd-pf, obsd-commits, bristuff-users, debsec, mvblog-commits, mvblog-tickets |
| 22:54.38 | outtolunc | what no nanog? |
| 22:54.49 | mvanbaak | I get all them lists in mutt |
| 22:55.13 | mvanbaak | but as soon as I read something, or if I'm not interested in the thread the 'd' key is my friend |
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| 22:55.59 | mvanbaak | and I have a bunch of boxen that have rss items in them |
| 22:56.09 | mvanbaak | thanks to my rss2email script |
| 22:56.36 | codefreeze | hmmmm |
| 22:56.43 | mvanbaak | wb codefreeze |
| 22:57.06 | mvanbaak | oh, and my biggest mailbox is =Spam |
| 22:57.08 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 22:57.24 | mvanbaak | 65314 mails this week |
| 23:01.01 | codefreeze | hmmm, must be the DS3 thread.... |
| 23:01.12 | outtolunc | yep |
| 23:01.35 | mvanbaak | this bkw, wasn't he a dev for * way back |
| 23:02.47 | mvanbaak | must be friends with sergio of chan_sccp ;) |
| 23:06.30 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: no accusations, just a subtle jab |
| 23:06.51 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: I thought that was enough |
| 23:06.52 | putnopvut | Right. I can just see that as a starting point for flames, though. |
| 23:07.15 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: yes, but who will be blamed? ;-) |
| 23:07.38 | Corydon76-dig | "there's that bkw again, going off like a firecracker" |
| 23:07.54 | putnopvut | So I missed the beginning of that thread. Apparently it was actually about DS3 at some point? |
| 23:07.59 | jtodd | Wow, I've not looked at -users in months, and now I remember why I haven't. |
| 23:08.05 | russellb | jtodd: lol |
| 23:08.33 | russellb | you know, it has been pretty nice having less drama in the development community for the past year or so |
| 23:08.33 | Corydon76-dig | I was saying a few weeks ago how I hadn't read that list in ages, so I signed back up |
| 23:08.47 | russellb | jtodd: it will burn your eyes, stay away |
| 23:08.49 | lmadsen | speaking of app_voicemail... (I'm late). I've almost got the majority of Voicemail() written in a GoSub(). Does everything the .c version does :) |
| 23:09.00 | putnopvut | lmadsen: awesome! |
| 23:09.08 | Corydon76-dig | bkw even looked like he was being conciliatory a few weeks ago... |
| 23:09.14 | Corydon76-dig | and then the flames restarted |
| 23:09.44 | russellb | lmadsen: that sounds pretty cool. |
| 23:10.01 | Corydon76-dig | lmadsen: everything? |
| 23:10.11 | russellb | imap storage? :-p |
| 23:10.34 | jtodd | lmadsen: yeah, we did that a while ago for almost everything. It seemed a bit more flexible. The only "trick" was making sure the indexes didn't get corrupted. |
| 23:10.49 | mvanbaak | meh, qwell != noob according to the book |
| 23:10.54 | lmadsen | no DB interface (yet) |
| 23:11.02 | lmadsen | but it parses the current Voicemail() directory |
| 23:11.08 | lmadsen | so you just keep using the same filesystem |
| 23:11.14 | jtodd | lmadsen: DB for indexes, file system for audio. The usual. |
| 23:11.15 | lmadsen | nothign to copy to switch |
| 23:11.29 | lmadsen | so far: http://www.pastebin.ca/731324 |
| 23:11.33 | lmadsen | did it more for fun |
| 23:11.37 | lmadsen | just to prove it could be done :) |
| 23:12.00 | lmadsen | A bunch of people at an AUG were talking about it |
| 23:12.01 | russellb | wrong paste? |
| 23:12.01 | putnopvut | Wha? |
| 23:12.04 | putnopvut | "exten => 3,1,Set(LANGUAGE()=fr)" |
| 23:12.06 | lmadsen | oops |
| 23:12.08 | lmadsen | totally wrong paste :) |
| 23:13.50 | lmadsen | http://www.pastebin.ca/731325 |
| 23:13.57 | jtodd | Good thing that was just an Asterisk config and wasn't your archive of pr0n URLs that you pasted. Whew! |
| 23:14.23 | lmadsen | jtodd: phew indeed! |
| 23:14.30 | lmadsen | I checked for that |
| 23:14.47 | jtodd | agh! Shell calls! |
| 23:14.54 | lmadsen | I know |
| 23:14.57 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, you know these developers... they have odd tastes in pr0n... |
| 23:15.05 | lmadsen | no AGI's though |
| 23:15.09 | lmadsen | entirely dialplan |
| 23:15.19 | snuff-work | mm nice dp lmadsen :) |
| 23:15.24 | lmadsen | thx :) |
| 23:15.27 | jtodd | lmadsen: Yeah, no problem. I'm guilty of shell calls all the time, but I keep that dirty laundry hidden. |
| 23:15.41 | symlink | moo. |
| 23:15.49 | Corydon76-dig | oink |
| 23:15.54 | putnopvut | potato |
| 23:16.06 | lmadsen | my idea is to create a dialplan that will do it all, then find where Asterisk is lacking some application or function which a developer can build when they're looking for a project :) |
| 23:16.06 | jtodd | hottentot |
| 23:16.28 | lmadsen | it's fun to see just what you can do with just dialplan :) |
| 23:16.31 | putnopvut | lmadsen: you should write a dialplan that can compile C code. |
| 23:16.34 | Corydon76-dig | Are we playing word association? |
| 23:16.35 | lmadsen | lol |
| 23:16.37 | jtodd | lmadsen: so... going full circle? app_voicemail -> gosub(voicemail) -> app_voicemail |
| 23:16.46 | Corydon76-dig | "honky honky" comes to mind |
| 23:16.51 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: I was referencing a blond joke |
| 23:16.52 | lmadsen | if that's the development cycle it needs to take, then sure :) |
| 23:18.02 | mvanbaak | [voicemail] |
| 23:18.19 | tzanger | so |
| 23:18.31 | mvanbaak | exten => _.,1,Playback(we-dont-want-to-answer-you) |
| 23:18.38 | tzanger | a byte walks into a bar and orders a drink. |
| 23:18.40 | mvanbaak | exten => _.,n,hangup() |
| 23:18.45 | tzanger | "Why so glum?" asks the bartender. |
| 23:18.49 | tzanger | "Parity error," sighs the byte. |
| 23:18.57 | tzanger | "Ah... I thought you looked a bit off," says the bartender |
| 23:18.59 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: that'll execute twice I believe |
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| 23:19.33 | mvanbaak | eh ? |
| 23:19.38 | mvanbaak | 1 and then n |
| 23:19.46 | mvanbaak | that's the correct way yeah ? |
| 23:19.48 | lmadsen | incoming call and 'h' exten? |
| 23:19.53 | mvanbaak | or am I missing something |
| 23:20.00 | mvanbaak | ah |
| 23:20.10 | mvanbaak | I was missing something |
| 23:20.12 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 23:20.34 | mvanbaak | exten => h,1,Noop(hangup) |
| 23:20.40 | mvanbaak | that will fix it right ? |
| 23:20.42 | lmadsen | I should lab it and see if I'm lying |
| 23:20.49 | lmadsen | yes it would :) |
| 23:21.01 | Corydon76-dig | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x24w0dlO6k |
| 23:21.03 | mvanbaak | vim macro_vm.conf |
| 23:21.34 | jtodd | lmadsen: on that voicemail thing - you could do multiple formats if you wanted; just run another (gak!) shell call and do a sox run for a few different filetypes. |
| 23:22.07 | mvanbaak | I'm off to bed |
| 23:22.10 | mvanbaak | latero all |
| 23:22.26 | lmadsen | jtodd: oooo, thx! |
| 23:23.17 | jtodd | lmadsen: I don't know when it would be appropriate to do it; almost certainly during "h" so it's tricky. Waiting for translation isn't what you want to do while someone is still on the line. |
| 23:23.27 | lmadsen | jtodd: agreed |
| 23:23.57 | lmadsen | I already need to check for deleted voicemails in [voicemailmain] so I don't delete them until after the call is hungup |
| 23:26.17 | tzanger | Corydon76-dig: ha |
| 23:26.25 | Corydon76-dig | tzanger: eh? |
| 23:26.38 | tzanger | the youtube vid |
| 23:26.46 | Corydon76-dig | Ah, yes, word association |
| 23:27.00 | putnopvut | No flash here :( |
| 23:27.18 | Corydon76-dig | apt-get install FlashPlayer ? |
| 23:27.29 | putnopvut | Not so easy with 64 bit machines. |
| 23:27.46 | putnopvut | It can be done. Qwell did it. |
| 23:27.49 | Corydon76-dig | Ah |
| 23:27.53 | putnopvut | I just haven't found the time to. |
| 23:28.00 | Corydon76-dig | Oh, it's in flashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:29.06 | jtodd | lmadsen: that is some of the most convoluted dialplan I've seen in a while. Congratulations. |
| 23:29.29 | putnopvut | I emailed the link to the pastebin to myself. |
| 23:29.30 | lmadsen | jtodd: isn't convoluted a bad word? :) |
| 23:29.55 | jtodd | lmadsen: That depends on your goals and outlook. |
| 23:29.58 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: careful. Some pastebins expire |
| 23:30.11 | putnopvut | Headed out! |
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