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| 01:23.26 | blitzrage | y0 y0 |
| 01:23.32 | jsmith | blitzrage! |
| 01:23.34 | jsmith | You home? |
| 01:23.39 | blitzrage | I am! |
| 01:23.40 | jsmith | ~cheer blitzrage |
| 01:23.41 | jbot | Three cheers for blitzrage! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
| 01:23.41 | blitzrage | finally! |
| 01:24.08 | jsmith | blitzrage: Any problems on the road? |
| 01:24.24 | blitzrage | nope, no probs |
| 01:24.39 | blitzrage | well... the weather outside chicago this morning was dicey |
| 01:24.45 | blitzrage | rained really hard |
| 01:24.53 | blitzrage | but we made it back safe, and I went to ikea |
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| 01:25.42 | blitzrage | russellb! |
| 01:26.16 | russellb | greetings sir |
| 01:26.32 | russellb | distributed locks done but not tested :-p |
| 01:26.46 | russellb | i'll test them later this week probably ... |
| 01:27.04 | Juggie | how would one test this |
| 01:27.26 | russellb | wellllllll ... i'd rather verify basic functionality before i waste anyone else's time |
| 01:28.14 | russellb | but if you really wanted to try ... download and install openais ... configure and run the aisexec program ... compile and install my events branch ... then use the DLOCK_* family of dialplan functions |
| 01:28.20 | russellb | and you need at least 2 nodes ... |
| 01:28.38 | russellb | i'll document how to set up AIS stuff eventually |
| 01:29.10 | blitzrage | w00h00! I have music again! |
| 01:29.44 | Juggie | russellb, what takes advantage of the event system so far, voicemail, .. and whats left to go. |
| 01:29.44 | russellb | i really need to start digging into the meat of AIS, which is memory checkpointing |
| 01:29.48 | russellb | (failover hotness) |
| 01:29.57 | russellb | voicemail so far |
| 01:30.06 | blitzrage | I gotta play with it so I can document it. |
| 01:30.09 | russellb | and i want to do device state, but that's going to be tough |
| 01:30.50 | russellb | i should write some sort of basic README about it ... |
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| 01:31.02 | russellb | i'll do at least that tomorrow |
| 01:31.29 | russellb | yesssssss ... |
| 01:31.36 | JerJer | off the top, what does the Route header do? and why would an ATA send it? |
| 01:32.16 | Juggie | russellb, seems to me to do device state you'd need some kind of central device stage engine in asterisk |
| 01:32.18 | Juggie | ah, damn he left. |
| 01:32.33 | Juggie | *state |
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| 02:41.43 | Juggie | anyone know how to disable yenta(pcmcia)? |
| 02:47.47 | snuff-work | in what os? |
| 02:48.06 | snuff-work | i thought u'd be able to just go /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop or equiv |
| 03:29.27 | De_Mon | how can i make someone love me? I only got file to look at my bug for a few short moments today. I want more! |
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| 10:07.59 | harryr | Is there any way to know (through a variable, or the return value of Dial) if the client is still connected when running a DeadAGI script (over FastAGI) |
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| 13:56.11 | snuff-away | M10863 |
| 13:56.12 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_iax2 0010863: log complaining about tos setting reported by idkpmiller http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10863 |
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| 13:56.30 | snuff-away | anyone else have suggestions about this.. |
| 14:00.34 | key2 | Corydon76-dig: ping ? |
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| 14:05.32 | De_Mon | zoink |
| 14:11.20 | De_Mon | ping 65.32.5.74 |
| 14:11.24 | De_Mon | whoops |
| 14:14.57 | Corydon76-dig | key2: pong |
| 14:19.29 | jsmith | Ah, the joys of sending out a long technical email and getting three auto-responders telling you it won't be read anytime soon |
| 14:23.08 | Juggie | jsmith, did you get mine this am? |
| 14:23.27 | jsmith | Juggie: Haven't checked that account yet... |
| 14:23.30 | jsmith | Juggie: I'll check it now |
| 14:24.31 | kpfleming | somebody needs to make jsmith an op in the #asterisk-* channels :-) |
| 14:24.45 | russellb | he isn't already? |
| 14:24.54 | jsmith | kpfleming: No! Then people will think I have real powers! |
| 14:25.01 | russellb | i think he is already an op in #asterisk |
| 14:25.07 | kpfleming | super powers :-) |
| 14:25.20 | russellb | in fact, it is only this one that he is not |
| 14:25.28 | jsmith | I don't need op in here, as I"m not a real developer |
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| 14:26.03 | russellb | too late |
| 14:26.06 | file | jsmith: don't let the power go to your head |
| 14:26.23 | jsmith | file: That assumes I have an ego |
| 14:26.24 | Juggie | j/k |
| 14:26.29 | russellb | speaking of being a developer, i was going to give you commit to asterisk so you could tweak docs to your liking :) |
| 14:27.04 | file | let my love open the door! |
| 14:28.15 | Juggie | russellb, should do +v's for branch commit access and +o for 1.2/1.4/trunk |
| 14:28.33 | russellb | that works |
| 14:29.15 | jsmith | Juggie: Got your message, and your concerns will be brought up at the meeting |
| 14:29.44 | Juggie | jsmith, sounds good... i'm sure they are the same as what the majority is already thinking anyways. |
| 14:29.55 | russellb | except i don't have contact access to the channel ... |
| 14:31.11 | jsmith | russellb: You do as drumkilla |
| 14:31.13 | russellb | jsmith: you can now commit doc changes to 1.4 and trunk if you'd like ... plz to be not breaking anything |
| 14:31.25 | russellb | jsmith: russellb is linked to drumkilla |
| 14:31.40 | russellb | but i still have to know the password to be able to change LEVEL settings |
| 14:31.57 | key2 | Corydon76-dig: in what part of asterisk is the q931 dialect implemented ? |
| 14:32.06 | Juggie | key, libpri |
| 14:32.06 | russellb | libpri? |
| 14:32.18 | Juggie | russellb, correct! |
| 14:32.31 | russellb | heh ... |
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| 14:33.07 | key2 | I have my asterisk as pri_net connected to a pbx, and as pri_cpe connected to the telco, when from the pbx, I place a call, asterisk places it to the telco, and if the telco says busy, asterisk answers 16, normal clearing... is it a bug ? |
| 14:36.05 | Juggie | ummm.... to be honest i cant remember how efficentally * passes back the result.. or if it does at all when you bridge two pri's. |
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| 14:36.31 | Juggie | myself i allways did Dial(Zap.....) |
| 14:36.42 | Juggie | then Goto(s-${DIALSTATUS) |
| 14:36.57 | Juggie | then i would have an, exten=>s-BUSY,1,BUSY() and so on. |
| 14:37.05 | Juggie | to ensure the proper errors got passed along. |
| 14:37.35 | key2 | you need the goto dialstatus ? |
| 14:40.18 | Juggie | key, to be honest i am unsure whast the expected behaviour is... but to check ${DIALSTATUS} and ensure the proper error was returned was how i fixed the problem |
| 14:40.22 | Juggie | i wrote a dial macro for it. |
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| 14:44.44 | Corydon76-dig | Where exactly are you seeing this 16 value? |
| 14:44.56 | key2 | the cause |
| 14:45.15 | key2 | 16 = Normal Clearing |
| 14:45.52 | Juggie | Corydon76-dig, if i receive a incomming call on * from a pri-A, then DIAL(...) off to another pri-B if B returns busy what is the expected behaviour |
| 14:46.26 | Juggie | i assume asterisk doesnt automatically return busy to A correct? |
| 14:46.53 | Juggie | because that would break any more dialplan that existed, if there was any. |
| 14:47.04 | Corydon76-dig | key2: I'm aware of what 16 means. Where are you seeing the 16? |
| 14:48.04 | key2 | Corydon76-dig: to the cause ast sends to the pbx ;) |
| 14:48.07 | key2 | in pri debug |
| 14:49.24 | Juggie | key2, i expect this is the expected behaviour and your going to have to write a macro to massage the proper error messages back to your calling pri. |
| 14:49.57 | Juggie | unless someone corrects me, i think its safe to assume that asterisk just cant return a busy if you do one failed dial, as who knows what extra dialplan is comming. |
| 14:50.46 | Juggie | i had something like this, http://www.pastebin.ca/723088 |
| 14:50.58 | Juggie | that was written for 1.2 though, but the point should be obvious. |
| 14:53.21 | Corydon76-dig | key2: I'm not sure that's a bug as much as an unimplemented functionality |
| 14:53.45 | Juggie | Corydon76-dig, jsmith, told me if theres nothing in the dialplan after the dial, it should pass back the messages |
| 14:53.51 | Juggie | but i am not sure if that works or not |
| 14:54.23 | jsmith | In other words, auto-fallthrough passes back a busy in that case, I think |
| 14:55.14 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, but internally, what's happening is that the two channels failed to bridge, because an Answer event did not occur, and therefore, no information was passed between the two channels |
| 14:55.56 | Juggie | ok key so as i showed, play with that dial macro i linked. |
| 14:56.03 | Corydon76-dig | In fact, I'm the one who defaulted it to passing back 16. Before, you got back a cause of 0, which is nonsensical |
| 14:56.21 | Juggie | feel free to add more states to it, you can look up ${DIALSTATUS} on the wiki to see other possible statues you can handle. |
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| 14:59.18 | blitzrage | putnopvut: y0! |
| 14:59.31 | putnopvut | How's it going blitzrage? |
| 15:01.02 | Juggie | putnopvut! |
| 15:01.13 | putnopvut | Juggie: w00t! |
| 15:01.24 | Juggie | good morning. |
| 15:02.06 | Corydon76-dig | Yeesh. "Attended transfer to a queue". That just seems wrong. |
| 15:02.43 | Deeewayne | oh yeah, I saw that ^^ |
| 15:02.52 | putnopvut | Yeah. Blind transfer seems a lot more reasonable when a queue's involved. |
| 15:03.11 | putnopvut | Does the transferer wait in the queue until a member answers and then hang up? |
| 15:03.28 | jmls | putnopvut: beleive it or not, we use that a lot |
| 15:04.06 | jmls | a call comes into an agent, and the agent determines that a specialist team needs to handle the call. |
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| 15:04.30 | Corydon76-dig | jmls: blind transfer to a queue seems more reasonable |
| 15:04.45 | jmls | you don't want the caller to have to go through all the identification process again, so the original agent speaks to the "new" agent and talks him through the details |
| 15:05.06 | jmls | so blind simply does not work for this purpose |
| 15:05.20 | Corydon76-dig | Ah... that's not communicated to the agent via Callerid? |
| 15:05.37 | jmls | most of the time the callerid is withheld |
| 15:06.23 | Corydon76-dig | <admin mode="on">You could rewrite the callerid to a specific string that triggers a record to come up for the agent</admin> |
| 15:06.52 | jmls | it's just easier for the original agent to say "Hi, i've got Mr Smith on the line, id is 1234356. He's annoyed becuase xxx and yyy. Ok ? thanks" |
| 15:07.10 | jmls | it's the reasons that need explaining to the specialist team |
| 15:07.19 | jmls | not simply the persons details |
| 15:07.40 | jmls | Corydon76-dig: we use jabber to send the person details to the new agent |
| 15:08.23 | Corydon76-dig | Ah... |
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| 15:08.33 | Corydon76-dig | Still, it's a neat way to do it, isn't it? |
| 15:09.11 | Corydon76-dig | You could actually pop up the right window immediately upon receiving the call for the second agent |
| 15:09.41 | jmls | that's what we do, from the dialplan send a jabber message with the details required to pop the screen |
| 15:10.05 | Corydon76-dig | Ah |
| 15:10.34 | jmls | we use a highly-modified "cdr" on all onbound calls that hold all sorts of information on the caller, and send the uniqueid for this record around the system ;) |
| 15:10.40 | jmls | (inbound) |
| 15:11.21 | jmls | the target agent's application takes this uniqueid and reads the appropriate record and gathers all the relevant information |
| 15:11.37 | jmls | and then pops up the screen as required |
| 15:12.07 | jmls | so, in a nutshell, attended transfers to queues are very important to us |
| 15:12.49 | Corydon76-dig | Are you also getting the crashes? |
| 15:13.08 | jmls | no ... |
| 15:13.25 | putnopvut | jmls: are you actually using attended transfers to the queue itself, or just to an agent channel? |
| 15:15.03 | jmls | we get an inbound call to Queue 1, which calls an "agent" (in reality a realtime member which uses a local channel). This calls the Sip phone. Agent determines that he needs to go to queue 2, so he peforms an attended transfer to an extension which calls the queue app |
| 15:15.19 | putnopvut | Ah, okay. |
| 15:15.21 | jmls | the second queue also has realtime members using the local channel |
| 15:15.33 | jmls | so, no, we don't use chan_agent at all |
| 15:19.12 | Corydon76-dig | Brains are exploding |
| 15:21.07 | jmls | heh |
| 15:21.15 | jmls | *splat* |
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| 15:35.33 | codefreeze | a broom? More like a mop! |
| 15:35.56 | Qwell | wet/dry vac would do the trick |
| 15:36.36 | codefreeze | emphasis on the wet |
| 15:36.44 | Qwell | throw some sawdust on it |
| 15:36.52 | Corydon76-dig | key2: why are you private messaging me for something that can be answered on #asterisk ? |
| 15:37.17 | key2 | Corydon76-dig: cuz I didnt notice u were on #asterisk too |
| 15:37.43 | Corydon76-dig | eh? |
| 15:38.23 | Corydon76-dig | How did you know I have background noise in my office? |
| 15:38.36 | key2 | talkin about me ;) |
| 15:38.48 | codefreeze | lol |
| 15:38.51 | Qwell | key2: no, that's just side-tone |
| 15:39.23 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze: it's the sound of 2 x 3.0kVA UPSes cooling themselves |
| 15:39.48 | codefreeze | Corydon76-dig: usually they make noise when they are online... |
| 15:40.22 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze: boy, do they ever |
| 15:40.39 | codefreeze | what... are you in the middle of a power outage? |
| 15:40.58 | Corydon76-dig | You can't hear the sounds of the server fans above the fans of the UPSes |
| 15:41.09 | Corydon76-dig | No power outage, just constant fan noise |
| 15:41.23 | putnopvut | who are your fans? |
| 15:41.45 | Corydon76-dig | There's a few of them in here. I'm good at ignoring them, too |
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| 15:51.14 | Deeewayne | Am I wrong, or does this quote mean transferring a call to itself, "I use a linksys with one only line for extension A, i call extension B which calls extension A back and makes the attended transfer" |
| 15:57.24 | putnopvut | Yeah, that wording is extremely vague. I have no idea who's initiating the transfer there and to whom. |
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| 15:57.55 | putnopvut | I also don't know when B calls A back if it's still part of the original call from A to B or if it's a separate call. |
| 15:58.02 | Deeewayne | I think B is transferring to A, who is the original caller |
| 15:58.11 | putnopvut | That seems dumb... |
| 15:58.22 | putnopvut | So a person is being transferred to himself. |
| 15:58.24 | Qwell | and will cause bad things |
| 15:58.25 | Deeewayne | won't the world implode if you transfer your call to yourself ? |
| 15:58.30 | putnopvut | I'd think so. |
| 15:58.35 | Qwell | Deeewayne: if your phone is dumb |
| 15:58.51 | putnopvut | I'd think the masquerade would be...funny in a situation like that. |
| 15:59.05 | putnopvut | I don't want to expand beyond "funny" because I don't know exactly what would happen. |
| 15:59.08 | Deeewayne | Asterisk should crash, even if your phone is dumb |
| 15:59.17 | Deeewayne | shouldn't I mean |
| 15:59.19 | Qwell | you'll run out of memory, or cpu, or something, heh |
| 16:00.59 | Deeewayne | if its a one-line linksys, I would think that he should get congestion and not be able to "make the attended transfer" |
| 16:02.19 | Deeewayne | I also wonder what you say to yourself when you are about to do an attended transfer of your own call to yourself |
| 16:03.56 | putnopvut | I think you should ask the reporter for clearer steps to get the crash. Tell him to give you step-by-step instructions for reproducing. |
| 16:04.24 | putnopvut | Using prose when attempting to describe a process for crashes is typically a recipe for confusion. |
| 16:10.27 | putnopvut | ...purple what? |
| 16:10.54 | Qwell | libpurple? |
| 16:12.31 | jsmith | Qwell: I like libpuce better, and I'm secretly working on libaquamarine next |
| 16:12.49 | jsmith | Qwell: (but libpersimmon might be more fun) |
| 16:14.36 | kpfleming | libtransparent |
| 16:20.05 | *** join/#asterisk-dev yannj_fr (n=yannj@vpn.intelunix.fr) |
| 16:20.08 | codefreeze | my lib is so transparent, you can't even find it with ls! |
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| 16:34.33 | putnopvut | codefreeze: I can use ls --infrared-scan to find its heat signature |
| 16:34.59 | Deeewayne | putnopvut: according to homer, purple is a fruit |
| 16:36.08 | Corydon76-dig | I've met people who tasted purple in the 60s |
| 16:36.17 | putnopvut | heh |
| 16:36.18 | codefreeze | putnopvut: one up: I coated the lib in special infrared-opaque material, to make it invisible to such scans! |
| 16:37.07 | putnopvut | purple is also a valid kool aid flavor |
| 16:37.53 | codefreeze | putnopvut: I'd show it to you, but I haven't been able to find it lately.... |
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| 16:44.44 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze: I've written similar code, to help stave off world hunger and solve the energy crisis... |
| 16:44.55 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze: Unfortunately, I can't find the library right now |
| 16:46.10 | codefreeze | Corydon76-dig: I know how it is. Murphy's Law, definitely! |
| 16:49.26 | Corydon76-dig | Darn that Murphy... darn him to heck! |
| 16:49.35 | Corydon76-dig | (with apologies to Dilbert) |
| 16:53.53 | codefreeze | Already there! Socks are repaired here in Wyoming! |
| 16:55.00 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze: I was beginning to think that was a lost art. My mother taught me how to darn socks |
| 16:59.02 | codefreeze | yes, and when you have to wear them, you say "darn socks!" all day long! |
| 17:02.11 | Corydon76-dig | Eh? |
| 17:02.31 | Qwell | I prefer to dang things |
| 17:02.34 | Qwell | darning is so rude |
| 17:03.08 | file | dang nabbit? |
| 17:03.17 | Qwell | I dang nabbits all the time |
| 17:03.45 | Corydon76-dig | What about silly rabbits? |
| 17:04.31 | Corydon76-dig | "Kicks are for trids" |
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| 17:04.44 | codefreeze | no, those are silly rabbi's. |
| 17:06.11 | codefreeze | Corydon76-dig: saw your response in asterisk-dev on the prototypes... couldn't have said it better. |
| 17:07.24 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze: were you thinking about getting any of those cordless DECT SIP phones? |
| 17:07.35 | Corydon76-dig | staples has them on clearance |
| 17:07.52 | Corydon76-dig | Now $35, instead of $70 |
| 17:07.55 | Qwell | ha |
| 17:07.56 | Qwell | nice |
| 17:08.09 | Qwell | I'll wait for the $35 + $20 MIR |
| 17:08.46 | Corydon76-dig | MIR? |
| 17:08.53 | Qwell | mail-in rebate |
| 17:08.57 | Juggie | 9848 is intreasting. |
| 17:08.59 | Corydon76-dig | probably not |
| 17:09.07 | Qwell | 35 is a good price though |
| 17:09.16 | Qwell | s/good/great/ |
| 17:09.25 | Qwell | especially if one can find the other units |
| 17:09.32 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, for SIP DECT... |
| 17:09.54 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: did you ever find anywhere that sells them? |
| 17:10.44 | Corydon76-dig | Just staples.com and Walmart.com |
| 17:10.55 | Qwell | I mean the additional units |
| 17:10.58 | Corydon76-dig | Nope |
| 17:11.01 | Qwell | whatever they're called |
| 17:11.16 | Corydon76-dig | X10002P |
| 17:11.29 | Qwell | more generally... |
| 17:11.40 | Corydon76-dig | Oh, no |
| 17:12.00 | Qwell | I can't for the life of me think of what they're called |
| 17:14.57 | Juggie | basestations? |
| 17:15.07 | Qwell | the base station would be the main unit |
| 17:15.18 | Juggie | repeaters? |
| 17:15.22 | Qwell | basically |
| 17:15.23 | Qwell | but no |
| 17:15.39 | Juggie | i know the astra ones create a mesh |
| 17:21.30 | Juggie | hmmm, i need to write something on my new whiteboard |
| 17:21.32 | Juggie | so i look busy |
| 17:22.38 | Qwell | Juggie: no need |
| 17:22.39 | Qwell | http://xkcd.com/303/ |
| 17:25.27 | Juggie | hehe |
| 17:33.45 | festr_ | is it ok that ForkCDR (1.4.11) will reset duration and billsec in the parent cdr? |
| 17:35.26 | jsmith | festr_: Sounds like a bug to me |
| 17:36.24 | festr_ | parent cdr has duration = 0 and billsec = 0 |
| 17:36.34 | festr_ | i'll look at the source |
| 17:39.17 | festr_ | hmm memcpy(newcdr, cdr, sizeof(*newcdr)); |
| 17:39.46 | festr_ | it should copy duration and billsec |
| 17:40.56 | Corydon76-dig | Remind me the name of the variable to turn on to get the pretty formatting for gcc? |
| 17:46.43 | Corydon76-dig | or it's probably for GNU make |
| 17:48.50 | Corydon76-dig | Found it... NOISY_BUILD |
| 18:11.41 | codefreeze | festr_: duration & billsec are calcd when you set the end time... after the fork... |
| 18:30.03 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze: I'm thinking those two should be calculated fields that fall back to current time if the call is not yet ended |
| 18:31.30 | Qwell | silly question...don't shoot me |
| 18:31.53 | Qwell | If you have a T1, could you get 48 32k *VOICE* channels, rather than 24 64k channels? |
| 18:32.04 | Qwell | or maybe 46 + D |
| 18:33.02 | putnopvut | I don't know if it's possible to "split" a DS0 like that... |
| 18:34.20 | Corydon76-dig | Possible, yes |
| 18:34.36 | Corydon76-dig | You're unlikely to find a provider to terminate that, though |
| 18:34.45 | Qwell | I just asked cresl1n, and he went "what?!" :D |
| 18:34.48 | Qwell | the answer is basically no |
| 18:35.11 | Corydon76-dig | It's implementable |
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| 18:36.33 | Corydon76-dig | but you'd be better served running voip over a data T |
| 18:38.31 | bmd | what do H channels carry? |
| 18:38.46 | bmd | is there a specific payload/encoding for H channels? |
| 18:39.40 | Corydon76-dig | H channels? |
| 18:40.10 | Corydon76-dig | If that's what I think it is, it's just a bonded data channel |
| 18:44.45 | jsmith | bmd: They're more complicated that that... |
| 18:45.09 | Juggie | its possible, but good luck :) |
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| 18:48.59 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: that's more or less how DECT works, except with half the bandwidth |
| 18:59.34 | jsmith | Qwell: If you're using a channelized T1 instead of a PRI, you can get 48 g726-32 channels instead of 24 g711 ones. |
| 18:59.51 | jsmith | Qwell: But I don't know of a way to do that with PRI |
| 19:04.16 | De_Mon | dang its been three days |
| 19:06.11 | jsmith | Three days since... |
| 19:08.57 | De_Mon | since I ran into a problem calling numbers using t38 fax detection. |
| 19:09.26 | De_Mon | M8078 <-- added to that bug |
| 19:09.27 | MuffinMan | [feedback] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/T.38 0008078: T38 relay doesn't work between Audiocodes Tulip AC494 ATAs reported by candlerb http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8078 |
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| 19:32.26 | becks` | hi, slightly offtopic: what's the easiest way to send a sip message (udp packet) to a sip server? (on windows) |
| 19:32.47 | De_Mon | the easiest way |
| 19:32.51 | De_Mon | install a sip phone? |
| 19:33.18 | becks` | i want to write the sip message by myself ;) like e.g. telnet for tcp |
| 19:33.35 | Qwell | netcat |
| 19:34.41 | anonymouz666 | becks`: SiVuS |
| 19:35.07 | jsmith | becks`: You could look and see if anyone has ported the sipp program to Windows |
| 19:35.39 | becks` | ok thanks anonymouz666 and jsmith :) |
| 19:35.51 | becks` | oh and Qwell even =) |
| 19:39.11 | festr_ | codefreeze: after the fork, channel is hanged up and both durations are written to cdr with 0 |
| 19:40.29 | codefreeze | festr_: what times are the start, answer, end for each cdr? |
| 19:45.31 | russellb_ | everyone ready for a 1.4.12 ? |
| 19:47.06 | Juggie | bmd: ping |
| 19:47.25 | bmd | Juggie: poong |
| 19:47.47 | jsmith | russellb: You've got my vote |
| 19:47.54 | putnopvut | russellb: fine |
| 19:47.56 | jsmith | russellb: (As long as we get a new Zaptel release as well) |
| 19:48.17 | russellb | jsmith: Cresl1n has expressed desire to take more ownership of making zaptel releases |
| 19:48.19 | Juggie | bmd: would clearerr() help with that fgets loop issue you had? |
| 19:48.22 | russellb | and has also said he's not ready to do it ... |
| 19:48.30 | russellb | jsmith: so but him about it :) |
| 19:48.35 | bmd | Juggie: lemme see |
| 19:48.44 | Juggie | bmd: try clearerr instead of trapping \n |
| 19:48.51 | jsmith | russellb: Sure, but he's never around :-) |
| 19:48.53 | Juggie | trapping \n seems dumb to me, since fgets is supposed to break on that anyways. |
| 19:49.05 | russellb | well, it works ... |
| 19:49.10 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: yeah, go ahead. I'm still waiting on feedback for that new deadlock patch |
| 19:49.18 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: alright, cool |
| 19:49.44 | russellb | deadlocks are teh suck |
| 19:50.12 | bmd | Juggie: but an absence of \n is a good indicator then that fgets was interrupted |
| 19:50.42 | Juggie | bmd, not necessairly... over fastagi you can easily send a line and not terminate it properly. |
| 19:52.29 | bmd | clearerr does not fix it, so it looks like it was (b) from yesterday |
| 19:52.55 | Juggie | hmmmm |
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| 19:53.16 | Juggie | very weird that it works perfect for me w/ fastagi and not you. |
| 19:53.27 | Juggie | ok well... sure then... so long as it doesnt break me, then \n is fine :) |
| 19:53.30 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze: ping |
| 19:53.57 | deeperror | i'm using a rhino channel bank and every time the callee hangs up i hear the reorder tone instantly. Is there anyway to disable this functionality so that tone is not heard instantly? |
| 19:53.57 | bmd | Juggie: strangely for me it only gets EAGAIN for the first 100 or so times it calls read |
| 19:54.48 | bmd | so it just sticks looping for maybe a second on the socket, and then finally breaks through |
| 19:55.15 | bmd | http://pastebin.ca/723426 |
| 19:55.30 | bmd | like that, but with pages and pages of the top part |
| 19:56.30 | deeperror | where is a reorder tone generated from in the code on hangup() ? |
| 19:57.35 | russellb | :( |
| 19:58.06 | bmd | Juggie: so it works, it's just really slow |
| 19:58.19 | bmd | Juggie: did you try with agi debug enabled, you might be seeing the same thing |
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| 20:06.24 | codefreeze | Corydon76-dig: pong? |
| 20:06.39 | Corydon76-dig | You see the bug yet on AEL and CUT? |
| 20:06.56 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: I saw it, but had no idea what he was saying |
| 20:07.17 | Qwell | is he saying the problem is actually in switch? |
| 20:07.32 | codefreeze | guess not, whats the num? |
| 20:07.47 | Qwell | 10870 |
| 20:08.34 | Corydon76-dig | I think that's the issue, yes |
| 20:08.48 | Corydon76-dig | I was just curious, because it was CUT |
| 20:09.24 | Qwell | should a switch be expected to work on a string? |
| 20:09.26 | Qwell | it doesn't in C |
| 20:10.18 | codefreeze | AEL switches use extensions for each case, which uses then, the extension pattern matching algorithm... |
| 20:10.49 | codefreeze | which should match strings.... |
| 20:10.58 | Qwell | gotcha |
| 20:12.52 | deeperror | any around here familiar with the reorder tone that is heard on zap lines after hangup() occurs? There needs to be a way to disable asterisk from generating this tone or some option for this |
| 20:15.07 | deeperror | let me rephrase this how much $$ would it cost to get someone that knows about this to talk on the topic and perhaps work out a solution for us? |
| 20:17.04 | Qwell | deeperror: You might consider calling Digium's custom development folks |
| 20:17.49 | deeperror | I'm being told from manufacturer that this is just how asterisk works, and i her lots of folks complain about this as well, yet there is no feature or option in place for this type of functionality |
| 20:19.00 | russellb | Qwell: codefreeze file Deeewayne putnopvut kpfleming ... please to be signing asterisk and asterisk-addons releases |
| 20:19.11 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: there is a page on the internal wiki about release signing if you want to get in on it |
| 20:19.17 | kpfleming | will do |
| 20:19.27 | russellb | thanks |
| 20:19.56 | putnopvut | Done |
| 20:19.57 | Corydon76-dig | k |
| 20:20.06 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: see jabber |
| 20:21.00 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, I found it |
| 20:21.01 | Qwell | second! |
| 20:21.03 | Qwell | k |
| 20:21.18 | file | russellb: k |
| 20:21.41 | kpfleming | done |
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| 20:22.54 | putnopvut | Can someone enlighten me on the difference between 1.4 and 1.6 in regards to MWI? Specifically with regards to when Asterisk checks a mailbox for new messages? |
| 20:23.43 | putnopvut | Ha, I called it 1.6. Trunk I meant. |
| 20:26.47 | russellb | putnopvut: we have talked about this before :) |
| 20:27.02 | russellb | specifically, asterisk will rarely check for new messages |
| 20:27.15 | russellb | it simply generates events when the state of a mailbox changes |
| 20:27.32 | russellb | however, if some external entity is changing the mailbox, you have to configure app_voicemail to poll for changes |
| 20:27.41 | russellb | previously, all of the channel drivers did their own polling |
| 20:27.46 | russellb | now, it's not done unless it is needed |
| 20:28.00 | russellb | in the case of IMAP, you need polling turned on for it to pick up changes you make with an IMAP client |
| 20:28.04 | putnopvut | Okay, but the polling still exists, just within app_voicemail instead. |
| 20:28.10 | russellb | correct, and off by default |
| 20:28.32 | putnopvut | The problem with the IMAP polling right now is that it is extremely slow. |
| 20:28.50 | De_Mon | are we talking seconds, or minuites? |
| 20:28.52 | file | done here as well |
| 20:29.39 | putnopvut | De_Mon: you mean the IMAP polling? Seconds at the most, depending on where the IMAP server is and how many messages there are. |
| 20:29.47 | russellb | putnopvut: so you should advise users of IMAP to configure their polling intervals to be every few minutes or so |
| 20:29.55 | russellb | in 1.4, you can change that in sip.conf |
| 20:30.22 | russellb | don't know the option name ... |
| 20:30.27 | putnopvut | russellb: yeah...I've tried about 100 different altervatives to what's there right now to speed things up, but MWI is the thing that consistently is broken as a result. |
| 20:31.08 | russellb | so how does it do with the interval turned way down? |
| 20:31.26 | putnopvut | russellb: not sure yet... I was hoping to find a better solution than that. |
| 20:31.33 | russellb | ah, gotcha |
| 20:31.59 | putnopvut | My MWI questions by the way, pertain to issue 10487. |
| 20:32.21 | russellb | M10487 |
| 20:32.24 | MuffinMan | [feedback] [Asterisk] Applications/app_voicemail 0010487: IMAP integration with MS Exchange crashes Asterisk-1.4.10.1 reported by ewilhelmsen http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10487 |
| 20:32.33 | putnopvut | It's a pretty complicated case, and I was going to write up a big pastebin to put in this channel, but as I was writing it, I realized my solution sucked, so I abandoned it. |
| 20:32.41 | russellb | heh ... |
| 20:33.14 | putnopvut | So...I'm going to face the potential wrath of the reporters and see if changing their interval to be less will fix their slowdown issues... |
| 20:37.06 | Corydon76-dig | Is it terrible that my gpg key does not have a digium.com address? |
| 20:38.42 | kpfleming | Corydon76-dig: you can add email addresses to it IIRC |
| 20:38.53 | russellb | yeah, Qwell has a couple addresses on his key |
| 20:38.55 | snuff-away | mm.. yes t38.. not great at that either.. got to look at my voicemail issue with odbc storage.. wont send email |
| 20:39.12 | Qwell | russellb: aliases too, I think, heh |
| 20:39.23 | russellb | there are probably 150 fixes in this release, but i'm not sure what to say abotu it :-p |
| 20:39.51 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: I used kgpg, made it pretty easy |
| 20:42.30 | De_Mon | "a few bug fixes, enjoy" |
| 20:42.49 | De_Mon | or a lot, whichever is more applicable ;) |
| 20:46.35 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: I still don't see how to add an email address |
| 20:47.03 | Qwell | sec..lemme see if I can remember how I did it |
| 20:48.00 | Qwell | okay, on your own key, add user id |
| 20:49.23 | Qwell | right-click on the main (bold) key |
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| 21:00.28 | outtolunc | you got your flame suit handy <G> |
| 21:01.25 | russellb | don't need it! |
| 21:01.32 | Deeewayne | russellb: I'm signed |
| 21:01.41 | russellb | cool, thanks |
| 21:02.41 | outtolunc | reminds me, i still need to figure out why tor2 locks up after a day or so |
| 21:03.35 | Corydon76-dig | outtolunc: why SendText on a Dial? |
| 21:04.41 | outtolunc | i'd like to reply 'bored' but, there was a situation where one client didn't have PC's at agent stations, but the phones he had were text compat |
| 21:04.58 | anonymouz666 | someone can explain to me why what happens on chan_sip.c when the link goes down everything stops to work? it keeps trying to register=> and the others requests just don't get response |
| 21:05.08 | outtolunc | so it was a simple way to get 'basic info' about the call to that agents phone |
| 21:05.28 | Corydon76-dig | Info other than callerid? |
| 21:05.47 | outtolunc | Name, address, etc |
| 21:06.07 | Corydon76-dig | Okay, cool. What phone does this? |
| 21:06.26 | outtolunc | i think it was a grandstream amazingly (iirc) |
| 21:06.47 | Corydon76-dig | Really? That's kind of neat |
| 21:06.57 | Qwell | M10871 |
| 21:06.58 | MuffinMan | [feedback] [Asterisk] General 0010871: Logging goes to wrong destination reported by non-poster http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10871 |
| 21:06.59 | Qwell | Move to close |
| 21:07.04 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: agree? |
| 21:07.12 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: agreed |
| 21:07.22 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: I just closed it |
| 21:07.28 | Qwell | k |
| 21:07.33 | Juggie | Corydon76-dig, given that we just removed DeadAGI (or well just aliased the deadagi command to agi) does it make sense for someone to add DeadExternalIVR? |
| 21:07.35 | Qwell | oh |
| 21:07.37 | Qwell | it was reopened |
| 21:07.38 | Qwell | heh |
| 21:07.38 | outtolunc | side note: to test you can use *most* iax2 softphones |
| 21:07.53 | *** topic/#asterisk-dev by Qwell -> Asterisk Development Discussion -=- http://www.asterisk.org/developers -=- IAX2/guest@misery.digium.com/asterisk-dev -=- Asterisk trunk: res_telepathy release expected October 2007 -=- Tier 2 and Tier 3.14159 support is in #asterisk -=- ast_atomic_fetchadd_int(&developers_engaged, +1); -=- This is still not tier 2 support. Actually, this is not a support channel at all! |
| 21:08.04 | Qwell | (It's been Juggie's birthday for like a month) |
| 21:08.20 | Juggie | booo :) |
| 21:08.22 | De_Mon | Happy birthday Juggie |
| 21:08.29 | Juggie | heh, it was sept18th |
| 21:08.30 | De_Mon | (your last one for this year ;) |
| 21:08.34 | Deeewayne | Juggie: Happy Unbirthday! |
| 21:08.37 | Juggie | its been in the topic for like 2 weeks |
| 21:08.38 | snuff-away | mm.. its october.. where's res_telepathy?? |
| 21:08.49 | *** topic/#asterisk-dev by Qwell -> Asterisk Development Discussion -=- http://www.asterisk.org/developers -=- IAX2/guest@misery.digium.com/asterisk-dev -=- Asterisk trunk: res_telepathy release expected November 2007 -=- Tier 2 and Tier 3.14159 support is in #asterisk -=- ast_atomic_fetchadd_int(&developers_engaged, +1); -=- This is still not tier 2 support. Actually, this is not a support channel at all! |
| 21:08.53 | De_Mon | Yeah, every time I see someone say it I've been wanted to say, look at the date |
| 21:09.07 | Qwell | snuff-away: huh? |
| 21:09.17 | snuff-away | good work :) |
| 21:09.32 | De_Mon | lol |
| 21:09.40 | De_Mon | 'next month' |
| 21:10.07 | Juggie | Corydon76-dig: thoughts? |
| 21:10.18 | De_Mon | can I send commands TO asterisk using jabber? or does it have to go through manager interface? |
| 21:10.21 | Corydon76-dig | Juggie: I think blue is a pretty color |
| 21:10.33 | Juggie | comedian? :) |
| 21:10.34 | Juggie | [17:09] <Juggie> Corydon76-dig, given that we just removed DeadAGI (or well just aliased the deadagi command to agi) does it make sense for someone to add DeadExternalIVR? |
| 21:10.34 | Juggie | [17:09] <Qwell> oh |
| 21:10.42 | Juggie | oops, didnt mean to paste that extra line. |
| 21:10.57 | Juggie | my opinion is no, but... |
| 21:11.30 | Corydon76-dig | I've never seen ExternalIVR in use in the first place |
| 21:11.40 | Juggie | Corydon76-dig, 10363 |
| 21:12.31 | Juggie | someone added a deadexternalivr (as a seperate source file) and network support, network support is good... extra file/and or app, bad. |
| 21:13.05 | Corydon76-dig | Quite frankly, I don't know why ExternalIVR even exists |
| 21:13.17 | Corydon76-dig | Can't you do the same stuff using AGI? |
| 21:13.43 | russellb | not quite |
| 21:13.46 | Juggie | you can, but externalivr is much better optimized and allows for the core to do more work, eg, you can say play this list of files.. rather then agi playing one at a time. |
| 21:13.48 | russellb | ExternalIVR gives you live control |
| 21:13.54 | russellb | like, interrupting files that are being played |
| 21:13.57 | russellb | and changing stuff on demand |
| 21:14.30 | Corydon76-dig | Okay, why would we need externalivr after a hangup? |
| 21:14.39 | russellb | convenience |
| 21:14.49 | Corydon76-dig | Eh? |
| 21:14.52 | russellb | to let people that are using ExternalIVR to use the same interface for post-call processing |
| 21:14.58 | russellb | same reason people use DeadAGI |
| 21:15.06 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: DeadAGI is going away |
| 21:15.11 | Juggie | well, used to use deadagi |
| 21:15.16 | Juggie | deadagi doesnt exist in trunk |
| 21:15.22 | russellb | ah, right ... |
| 21:15.26 | Qwell | it's still just AGI though, isn't it? |
| 21:15.27 | Juggie | its simply an alias to AGI() |
| 21:15.36 | Juggie | of course yes. |
| 21:15.45 | russellb | well, then they should make the necessary changes to let ExternalIVR run on a hung up channel |
| 21:16.04 | Juggie | russellb, i agree we can, BUT i dont see why we need an extra app for it. |
| 21:16.12 | russellb | right ... |
| 21:16.13 | De_Mon | deadagi is in the same boat as deadexternalivr, rolled into the undead equiv |
| 21:16.29 | russellb | i'm not saying the separate app is the right idea |
| 21:16.31 | Juggie | we just removed the dead equiv of agi, we shoudnt consider adding another. |
| 21:16.37 | russellb | i'm just agreeing with the concept of having that ability |
| 21:16.41 | Juggie | right.. |
| 21:16.45 | Corydon76-dig | AGI, the Undead... |
| 21:18.16 | Juggie | heh... |
| 21:18.36 | file | zombie want brains |
| 21:18.40 | Juggie | Corydon76-dig, one thing i did realize though is if you call AGI on an unanswered channel, you can still do all the playback,background etc commands |
| 21:18.49 | Corydon76-dig | braaaaaaainzzz |
| 21:18.51 | Juggie | on an unanswered channel. |
| 21:19.04 | Juggie | not sure if we should block that as well, what do you think? |
| 21:19.42 | Corydon76-dig | For October 31, can be make zombie channels fail to die? |
| 21:20.20 | Juggie | hah... no.. but seriously though, should i bother to fix that w/ a patch. |
| 21:20.23 | Corydon76-dig | and to kill zombie channels, we add a cli command... core bludgeon <channel> |
| 21:20.37 | outtolunc | naw, add 'headshot' |
| 21:20.50 | Juggie | basically an unanswered channel would be dead mode + answer command? |
| 21:21.13 | Corydon76-dig | Nope |
| 21:21.30 | Corydon76-dig | You can send audio on an unanswered channel, as long as you're receiving |
| 21:21.34 | Corydon76-dig | i.e. early media |
| 21:21.52 | Corydon76-dig | If you're sending a call, you cannot send early media |
| 21:22.12 | Juggie | ah i see |
| 21:22.14 | Corydon76-dig | I think... or is that the opposite? |
| 21:22.18 | Juggie | that is better left alone then. |
| 21:22.45 | Corydon76-dig | Maybe when you're sending a call, you can send early media, but you need to wait for the answer before you can receive audio |
| 21:23.05 | Corydon76-dig | It's one or the other and I forget which |
| 21:23.53 | Corydon76-dig | On a PRI, far end can send audio without answering the call, but it won't be able to receive audio or DTMF |
| 21:24.04 | Juggie | which ever :) anyways i had a longwinded conversation with someoen about this today and i coudnt get them to see the point of why we removed deadagi and hence deadexternalivr would not be a good idea... could you post on 10363 and offer that opinion to steer the patch in the right direction. |
| 21:24.34 | Juggie | as a few extra commands and network support is a great idea, but a new dialplan function is not. |
| 21:25.03 | Juggie | anyways i am off, later. |
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| 21:42.28 | elixer | so... how was astricon? |
| 21:42.58 | elixer | all boozing and naked ladies like usual? |
| 21:43.37 | Corydon76-dig | What about naked men? |
| 21:43.51 | Corydon76-dig | or nearly naked? |
| 21:44.35 | elixer | touche |
| 21:44.40 | elixer | :) |
| 21:44.56 | elixer | i spent all weekend in vegas and saw neither |
| 21:45.04 | elixer | its all very depressing. |
| 21:45.51 | putnopvut | elixer: I thought it was impossible to be in Vegas without seeing naked women. |
| 21:46.02 | elixer | putnopvut: i've obviously got skillz. |
| 21:46.03 | Corydon76-dig | Your own fault. You coulda gone to see Chippendales |
| 21:46.35 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: I've been to Vegas without seeing naked women |
| 21:46.44 | elixer | Corydon76-dig: sho nuff. not my cup'o'tea though, i'm afraid. |
| 21:46.46 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: you don't count. |
| 21:46.51 | Corydon76-dig | lol |
| 21:46.58 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: I did see naked men, though |
| 21:47.10 | putnopvut | Yeah, I looked in the mirror when I was in the bathroom, too. |
| 21:47.12 | jtodd | elixer: There were, apparently, both naked men and women at Astricon, though I was not at the pool at that time. Astonishing. |
| 21:47.15 | elixer | i thought Chippendales didn't get naked |
| 21:47.24 | Corydon76-dig | elixer: nearly naked |
| 21:47.30 | elixer | Corydon76-dig: ah |
| 21:48.07 | Corydon76-dig | jtodd: you weren't? I'm shocked |
| 21:48.23 | putnopvut | I missed out on it too, but I will not disclose why. |
| 21:48.33 | elixer | i was propositioned by a prostitute for the first time in my life though |
| 21:48.38 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: you declined to shed? |
| 21:48.42 | jtodd | Corydon76: I was asleep, but the shouting woke me. I never would have guessed what it was about... |
| 21:48.44 | elixer | that was probably the highlight of the trip |
| 21:49.17 | putnopvut | elixer: So I take it you didn't get any large payouts from any casinos then? |
| 21:49.34 | elixer | putnopvut: that would be a safe assumption :) |
| 21:49.47 | elixer | i won close to $2000, though. |
| 21:49.55 | elixer | its a shame that i lost close to $3000. |
| 21:49.56 | elixer | :) |
| 21:50.23 | putnopvut | I know how that works... |
| 21:50.26 | Corydon76-dig | Ouch |
| 21:50.36 | putnopvut | though admittedly not on that scale. |
| 21:50.43 | Corydon76-dig | Stick to games that employe skill, not luck |
| 21:51.06 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: which games are those? |
| 21:51.14 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: poker |
| 21:51.25 | elixer | Corydon76-dig: i don't have fun playing poker. too stressful for me. |
| 21:51.31 | Corydon76-dig | blackjack to a certain extent |
| 21:51.36 | putnopvut | I have fun with poker, but not with strangers. |
| 21:51.39 | elixer | all i play is blackjack |
| 21:51.47 | putnopvut | Blackjack is a lot of fun in Vegas. |
| 21:51.54 | Deeewayne | Spanish 21 is fun too |
| 21:52.05 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: oh, strip poker? |
| 21:52.20 | elixer | i play basic strategy, so in theory my long term losses are minimized. its the short term swings that suck :) |
| 21:54.16 | elixer | heh |
| 21:54.43 | Corydon76-dig | http://www.phreaknic.info/ |
| 21:55.07 | Corydon76-dig | This is one con that I will be attending |
| 21:55.15 | russellb | i'm off ... have to run somewhere ... talk to you later on folks |
| 21:55.18 | russellb | call me cell if needed |
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| 21:59.03 | bmd | putnopvut: I can take a wild guess |
| 21:59.09 | bmd | woah |
| 21:59.24 | bmd | sorry, scroll buffer on my chat client was way way up |
| 21:59.57 | putnopvut | What were you responding too, bmd? |
| 22:01.02 | bmd | oh, question you asked earlier today or yesterday about the MWI differences between 1.4 and 1.6 |
| 22:01.56 | bmd | which russel promptly responded to :-p |
| 22:02.51 | putnopvut | heh |
| 22:06.51 | putnopvut | Another MWI question: I understand that part of what MWI does is it will turn on a light on phones if there are new messages. Does the phone determine whether to turn this light on based on the "Messages-Waiting" header? |
| 22:07.11 | putnopvut | Or is that implementation dependent? |
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| 22:57.23 | snuff-work | the broken alaw/ulaw stuff that was addressed in #8126 does it have any effect on the trancoder card TC400B? or would it be asterisk side only since it converts all things to slin>? |
| 23:13.09 | Qwell | iirc, the tc400b transcodes through ulaw/alaw |
| 23:13.52 | Qwell | no, I don't think it would affect it at all |
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| 23:34.03 | OzyWebMaster | Hello All |
| 23:34.25 | OzyWebMaster | I was wondering if there is a documented area on the progress of t.38 fax termination on * |
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| 23:38.07 | snuff-work | OzyWebMaster: far as i recall.. t.38 req license therefore t.38 termination cannot be done on * |
| 23:39.02 | Corydon76-dig | snuff-away: that's not quite correct |
| 23:39.43 | Corydon76-dig | There is no documented area, and AFAIK, no work has been started for T.38 termination, although that could change in the next 5 minutes. |
| 23:40.35 | Juggie | jtodd, i count like 4-5 times you mentioned the code zone pool party, you must be disapointed you missed out? :P |
| 23:42.59 | snuff-work | quick t.38 google shows that oh323 project made a 't.38' modem |
| 23:43.42 | jtodd | Twice, but I suppose that could be construed in my typical understatement to be equivalent to 4-5 times. I just never thought I'd hear myself saying "Yeah, man, I missed the racy parts of Astricon!". I can no longer tell my wife that people don't go to Astricon for the rowdy times. |
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| 23:44.29 | jtodd | Of course, since I wasn't actually AT any of the pool parties (and I don't drink :-( ) it gets exaggerated in my wishful thinking. |
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| 23:45.37 | Juggie | JT, dont forget the mailing list too :P |
| 23:46.16 | Juggie | you did notice the female golf tournement at the hotel on friday.... :P |
| 23:47.33 | jtodd | Juggie: Well, not to make generalizations, but quite a few female golfers are on "the other team", so while it is typically not my habit to gawk, I find that I have even less incentive in that particular sport. |
| 23:47.39 | putnopvut | lol |
| 23:47.42 | Corydon76-dig | jtodd: did you ever drink? |
| 23:48.32 | jtodd | Corydon76: Nope. Let's just say that I have a genetic predisposition to behaving poorly under the influence. |
| 23:48.58 | Corydon76-dig | Ah. I have a friend up here who has a genetic disposition to dying if he ever drinks |
| 23:49.09 | jtodd | Yeah, that'll certainly put a crimp in your happy hour. |
| 23:50.09 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, poor guy |
| 23:51.00 | jtodd | I've rarely seen good code out of drunk people, despite drunkcoders.com unstated approval of such circumstances. |
| 23:51.21 | Juggie | well... the code zone was dead |
| 23:51.32 | Juggie | i tried numerous times to gather people there, but alas, no luck |
| 23:51.53 | Corydon76-dig | I know one guy for which drinking improves his code... he has ADD, and the alcohol slows him down enough to where he can concentrate |
| 23:52.05 | JunK-Y | the hottub close the code zone killed all chances of coding! |
| 23:52.09 | putnopvut | The problem with the code zone was that there was a pool and hot tub. |
| 23:52.14 | jtodd | The code zone was 1/4 mile away from the "main" conference center, which really killed it. |
| 23:52.25 | Juggie | there was no reason to be there |
| 23:52.27 | Juggie | no redbull, etc. |
| 23:52.33 | Juggie | no gear even. |
| 23:52.36 | JunK-Y | jtodd: cause u didnt rent a golf car! |
| 23:53.04 | Corydon76-dig | jtodd: have I mentioned PhreakNIC to you, yet? |
| 23:53.06 | jtodd | JunK-Y: Yeah, I walked. |
| 23:53.10 | Juggie | the code zone was very slim pickins |
| 23:53.10 | putnopvut | Also, since there were several people who weren't staying at carefree, it wasn't convenient for them to stay after hours to code. |
| 23:53.11 | jtodd | Corydon76: Yep. |
| 23:53.46 | jtodd | Corydon76: I'd consider it, but I've already turned down Hackers this year due to time/$ constraints. |
| 23:54.11 | Corydon76-dig | Juggie: I dunno, the fact that it's so far away from the main area is a plus... no users getting in the way of the developers... ;-) |
| 23:54.32 | jtodd | Corydon76: VON is the only other scheduled thing right now, and that's going to be a triple-purpose trip. |
| 23:54.36 | Corydon76-dig | jtodd: $25 admission |
| 23:54.44 | putnopvut | Also the code zone was LOCKED the first couple of days. |
| 23:54.53 | Juggie | Corydon76-dig, most of the programmers had villas |
| 23:54.56 | Juggie | and the villas were nicer |
| 23:55.10 | Juggie | then club house |
| 23:55.12 | putnopvut | Juggie: hell yeah they were! |
| 23:55.14 | Corydon76-dig | Heh |
| 23:55.43 | jtodd | Corydon76: yeah, but it's airfare, hotel, and really the most expensive thing is the time. I'm at the end of a very large funnel of "things to do" right now. |
| 23:56.32 | Corydon76-dig | jtodd: ah... |
| 23:57.06 | Corydon76-dig | Well, we only have 30 rooms left at the hotel... |
| 23:57.09 | Juggie | next time we are keeping putnopvut away from the red wine :P |
| 23:57.27 | Corydon76-dig | Juggie: what, no Scotch? |
| 23:57.34 | putnopvut | Juggie: it was white ;) |
| 23:57.37 | jtodd | Now, PhreakNIC is where I expect rowdy behavior. :-) |
| 23:57.50 | Corydon76-dig | jtodd: and you'll find it, too |
| 23:58.02 | Juggie | i dont think anyone got in trouble @ carefree |
| 23:58.23 | Juggie | except my cab driver getting a speeding ticket doing 71 in a 50 on the way to the airport |
| 23:58.35 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: btw, both brimstone and I-MOD are going, if you need to hitch a ride up |
| 23:58.41 | putnopvut | who? |
| 23:58.54 | Corydon76-dig | Matt R and Kinsey |
| 23:59.16 | putnopvut | Ah. |
| 23:59.21 | putnopvut | When is it? |
| 23:59.27 | Corydon76-dig | October 19-21 |
| 23:59.48 | putnopvut | Hmmm...I may seriously consider it. How much does it cost? |