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| 19:16.09 | Necrosporus | What do you think about laptops based on wm8505 wm8650 wm8850 and so on? |
| 19:16.21 | Necrosporus | Also what is the latest chip from them? |
| 19:16.41 | Necrosporus | I know about wm8850 but it's pretty old by now |
| 19:20.05 | Necrosporus | Also do anybody own laptops with them still? |
| 19:20.06 | buZz | they are hell |
| 19:20.19 | buZz | supercheap though |
| 19:20.27 | Necrosporus | buZz, do you have laptop with them? |
| 19:20.29 | buZz | you can pick those netbooks up used for like 10-20 euros |
| 19:20.33 | buZz | we have one at the hackerspace |
| 19:20.42 | buZz | takes 4 minutes to boot Windows CE :P |
| 19:20.47 | Necrosporus | What is a hackerspace? |
| 19:20.59 | buZz | Hackerspaces are community-operated physical places, where people share their interest in tinkering with technology, meet and work on their projects, and learn from each other. |
| 19:21.04 | Necrosporus | buZz, I guess it boots android somewhat faster |
| 19:21.09 | buZz | doubt it |
| 19:21.18 | Necrosporus | Physical place? |
| 19:21.19 | buZz | android has way higher requirements |
| 19:21.26 | buZz | yes, not virtual |
| 19:21.35 | buZz | you cant have laptops at virtual spaces, obviously :P |
| 19:21.42 | Necrosporus | In what country is it? |
| 19:21.49 | buZz | they are in all countries |
| 19:21.55 | buZz | ours is in wageningen, netherlands |
| 19:22.32 | buZz | actually, i think those wm8xxx chips arent even ARM |
| 19:22.35 | buZz | they're MIPS |
| 19:22.55 | Necrosporus | I'm pretty sure they are ARM |
| 19:23.44 | buZz | ah, indeed , ARM9 |
| 19:23.48 | Necrosporus | buZz, you are mixing them upp with jz* |
| 19:23.49 | buZz | so ARMv4 , i guess? |
| 19:23.51 | buZz | pretty old |
| 19:23.58 | Necrosporus | I guess it's ARMv5 though |
| 19:24.13 | Necrosporus | Do you know how to test that? |
| 19:24.15 | buZz | ok, so will require a lot of compiling to get to work ;) |
| 19:24.23 | buZz | read the datasheet? :D |
| 19:24.50 | Necrosporus | Where do you buy used arm netbooks? |
| 19:25.06 | buZz | ebay etc |
| 19:25.08 | Necrosporus | aliexpress has no laptops with wm chips anymore seems |
| 19:25.52 | Necrosporus | Alright, so what ARM based laptop would you recomend nowadays? |
| 19:25.57 | buZz | pyra |
| 19:26.01 | buZz | chromebook |
| 19:26.04 | Necrosporus | wm8* are probably not produced anymore |
| 19:26.09 | buZz | pandora |
| 19:26.11 | buZz | zipit z2 |
| 19:26.22 | Necrosporus | Pandora is even older than those arm laptops |
| 19:26.29 | buZz | but a way faster cpu |
| 19:26.33 | buZz | ARMv7 |
| 19:26.43 | buZz | and more ram, more storage, better interfaces |
| 19:27.07 | buZz | those wm8505 laptops seems to typically have 128MB ram, and a 300mhz cpu |
| 19:27.53 | Necrosporus | Zipit Z2 has intel PXA, it's really ancient |
| 19:28.00 | buZz | but insanely cute |
| 19:28.04 | buZz | and runs mainline linux |
| 19:28.24 | Necrosporus | buZz, wm8650 have 256M ram and 800MHz CPU and usually 2-4G nvram |
| 19:28.41 | buZz | ok. so still poor |
| 19:28.52 | Necrosporus | wm8850 is faster |
| 19:28.56 | buZz | ARMv5 at 800mhz is lightyears slower than 1Ghz ARMv7 |
| 19:30.17 | buZz | ah, pandora has 512MB ram, took a while to find |
| 19:30.21 | buZz | pyra will have 4GB ram |
| 19:30.39 | Necrosporus | WM8850 one core Cortex-A9, not sure what ARMv... it is, 512 RAM |
| 19:30.41 | buZz | also, pyra allows cpu upgrades |
| 19:30.48 | buZz | cortex a9 is armv7 |
| 19:31.20 | Necrosporus | So, wm8850 should be as fast as pandora |
| 19:32.15 | buZz | well kinda doubt that, probably doesnt have NEON or GPU acceleration :) |
| 19:32.48 | buZz | TI chips are really quite good |
| 19:34.17 | Necrosporus | But 8850 is about 5 years newer |
| 19:34.20 | buZz | benefit of pyra & pandora is mostly that they have a huge community building optimized software for it |
| 19:34.29 | buZz | doesnt mean shit really :P |
| 19:34.34 | Necrosporus | There is also GPD win though |
| 19:34.39 | buZz | which is not ARM |
| 19:34.43 | Necrosporus | it has copied Pandora design |
| 19:34.49 | Necrosporus | there is GPD android |
| 19:34.55 | Necrosporus | not sure what CPU it has |
| 19:34.55 | buZz | there is x86 android yes |
| 19:36.38 | buZz | some atom |
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