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21:54.50 | Not_Jesus | wow |
21:55.07 | Not_Jesus | eoma68\Libre Tea people really make it difficult to find them |
21:55.21 | Not_Jesus | im suprised they dont have a jazzy website like pocketCHIP and some nice branding |
21:55.28 | Not_Jesus | cant find a twitter for it even |
21:55.35 | Not_Jesus | only website is rhombus-tech.net? |
21:55.59 | Not_Jesus | great comic strip but geez the site looks like its from the 90s |
21:56.28 | Not_Jesus | the libre tea is so forward thinking and revolutionary but there isnt branding that shows that |
21:56.39 | Not_Jesus | so hard to find anything about it other than links to the crowdsupply |
22:27.01 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: i'm a software libre developer, and there are zero (0) other additional people full-time helping out. everybody is volunteers, and has been for the past 5 years. |
22:28.38 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: also, being a software libre developer has certain ethical implications. the only reason i maintain a facebook account is because i have clients for whom facebook is absolutely essential for their business |
22:29.12 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: also, as an extremely busy software libre developer who has been focussing on getting designs ready, i do not have spare additional time or resources for marketing. |
22:29.56 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: i have time to do 100% focus on getting the designs and EOMA68 ready... or i have time to 100% focus on marketing.... but not both. both are full-time jobs. |
22:30.17 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: so, if you'd like to help with one of those tasks, please do |
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22:33.32 | Not_Jesus | lkcl, i get the not using facebook, i love libre tehc |
22:33.45 | Not_Jesus | but twitter is good for projects like this |
22:33.46 | Not_Jesus | also |
22:33.51 | Not_Jesus | a nice website is too |
22:33.59 | Not_Jesus | especially for when doing a crowdfunding event |
22:34.09 | Not_Jesus | pocketCHIP does great with all those |
22:34.14 | Not_Jesus | and its libre |
22:34.32 | Not_Jesus | im just saying this because i love the idea for libre tea and want it to be very succesful |
22:39.59 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: they have lots of funding, i know the people behind the CHIP. |
22:40.25 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: i have time either to do a nice website, or i have time to do the designs - i don't have time for both |
22:41.16 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: the current web site is a means by which i may make notes, use it as a big TODO list and so on. it's stored in a git repository which i can manage and push. |
22:41.41 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: if there was even one extra person working full-time on this, they could do all the things that you are saying should be done |
22:41.47 | Not_Jesus | what do the volunteers work on? |
22:41.58 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: but we do not have even 5% of an additional full-time person |
22:42.09 | Not_Jesus | also how much of it is created? |
22:42.21 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: they do what they want to and what they have time to do. |
22:42.47 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: sorry, what is "it"? |
22:42.58 | lkcl | sorry, i don't follow |
22:43.07 | Not_Jesus | the eoma68 |
22:43.49 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: 100% of the eoma68 computer card, laptop, and micro-desktop units. those are the complex ones. |
22:44.17 | Not_Jesus | you already have working ones? |
22:44.18 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: the only ones that haven't been created are the two (incredibly simple) additions of the break-out board and pass-through card |
22:44.29 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: yes, of course - otherwise i would not have gone to launch. |
22:44.31 | Not_Jesus | pass through course? |
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22:44.42 | Not_Jesus | how many are created? |
22:44.52 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: the videos can be seen online on youtube, searching for "eoma68" |
22:45.22 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: do you mean "how many of each prototype in each device category were made?" |
22:45.30 | Not_Jesus | yeah |
22:45.57 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: 5 EOMA68-A20 computer cards were made - i only have one left that works, as the others were damaged during the prototyping of the laptop's PCBs |
22:46.39 | Not_Jesus | im interested in working on a site for the project |
22:46.42 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: 5 Micro-Desktop units were made - only two of those left are working (one is with crowd supply, the other i use for demos) |
22:47.04 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: the laptop PCBs i assembled myself on a budget - there is only one set |
22:47.07 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: great! |
22:47.34 | Not_Jesus | are you the founder of the project as well? |
22:48.13 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: it could do with a big reorg |
22:48.16 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: yes. |
22:48.20 | Not_Jesus | are their any design principles or chosen colors for the Libre Tea? |
22:48.34 | Not_Jesus | any branding stuff |
22:48.46 | Not_Jesus | also |
22:49.04 | Not_Jesus | lkcl, what operating system is planned to be installed by default? |
22:49.36 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: there are 4 available and tested |
22:49.51 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: FreeBSD is also on the TODO list, as is SUGAR (from OLPC) |
22:51.55 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: btw one of the reasons for the current web site design is because it is recognised instantly and immediately by software libre developers. |
22:53.10 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: the CHIP team are **NOT** cognizant of libre software development or why it's important: i know who they are, and i know that they are interested in financially exploiting the low cost of the Allwinner R8, first, foremost and near-exclusively |
22:54.21 | Not_Jesus | could you send me media i could use for the site? |
22:56.34 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: everything's checked into a git repository: if you send me an ssh public key i can give you direct access to it, and you can pull everything (the entire site source code) |
22:58.24 | Not_Jesus | ok check pm |
22:58.38 | Not_Jesus | also could you use your eoma68 and test morph.is on it? |
22:59.11 | Not_Jesus | its a distributed file hosting like ipfs with an email replacement\irc replacement ready and lots of new things |
23:14.24 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: cool. do you have a cubieboard2 or any other ARM-based embedded board? |
23:15.35 | Not_Jesus | not yet |
23:15.54 | Not_Jesus | i order a CHIP and will be ordering a Libre Tea |
23:16.00 | Not_Jesus | i ordered* |
23:16.16 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: reason i ask is, any board that has an ARM processor you can use to test morph.is |
23:16.19 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: cool! |
23:16.46 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: i'd be interested to know if the Allwinner R8 has a proper full GPL software stack down to the bedrock. |
23:18.54 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: hmmmm.... morph.is is a decentralised distributed database, right? soo.... i could drop any "data" into it that i wanted, right? |
23:19.25 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: reason i ask is, have you heard of Bob Podolski and his book, "Flourish"? |
23:19.34 | Not_Jesus | yeah you could |
23:19.35 | Not_Jesus | and no i havnt |
23:20.08 | Not_Jesus | explain? |
23:24.21 | lkcl | great! |
23:25.10 | lkcl | ok, Bob Podolski is the advocate behind "Organised Anarchy" - decentralised guidelines on how to self-organise in an expandable fashion |
23:26.05 | lkcl | morph.io might be the missing framework which allows contracts to be declared (and stored, and digitally-signed) between people |
23:28.45 | lkcl | Not_Jesus: you're the developer behind morph.is right? for what i do, i would need a "signing" option that also refuses to accept "encrypted" incoming connections |
23:28.56 | Not_Jesus | no im not the developer of morph.is |
23:28.58 | Not_Jesus | thufir is |
23:29.02 | Not_Jesus | on #morphis |
23:29.08 | Not_Jesus | i help him with stuff |
23:30.04 | lkcl | thufir: ahhh yeah i've heard of him. |
23:30.16 | lkcl | can't remember where, but i've encountered him |