IRC log for #arm-netbook on 20131013

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00:43.51keeblertheborger: What WM?
00:44.16theborger?
00:45.02keeblerWindow Manager?
00:45.17theborgeri am in the process of reinstalling now. for XFCE
00:45.23keeblerAh.
00:45.45theborgeri installed LXDE it was ok.
00:46.26keeblerIt's the default I install on machine where people want something familiar, not used to Linux, but don't have a lot of resources.
00:46.34keeblerPersonally though, I use Fluxbox.
00:47.07keeblerI'm more about speed and hotkeys than flashy UI.
00:47.14WarheadsSE^
00:47.37WarheadsSEI just haven't taken the time to learn one of these tiling WMs, or anything else.
00:47.47WarheadsSEI know my way around KDE pretty fast.
00:47.48keeblerAlthough, some could say Fluxbox IS Flashy UI. ;) It sure is pretty to me.
00:47.56theborgeri had a cubieboard plugged into one of those moto laptop docks.
00:48.02theborgerthis thing is a monster compaired to that
00:48.10WarheadsSEHeh, yeah
00:48.16keeblertheborger: Heh, I've got the lapdock 500
00:48.17WarheadsSEDual A15 vs single A8
00:48.22keeblerplugged into my EOMA-A20
00:48.41keeblerWhat has the dual A15?
00:49.07theborgerkeebler: it was nice. but a little slow sometimes
00:49.11theborgerthis thing is peppy
00:49.34theborgernow to get me a quad arm netbook :)
00:49.34keeblertheborger: What was? (the Cubieboard A10?)
00:49.46theborgerkeebler: yea
00:49.50keeblerAh, yeah.
00:50.08theborgerit was way better then the Pi though
00:50.35theborgersold the cubieboard for double what i bought it for
00:50.35keeblerrPI ARMv6 @ 700mhz, vs ARMv7 @ 1200mhz
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00:50.50keeblerWhat are you using now?
00:51.04theborgerkeebler: samsung chromebook :)
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00:51.52WarheadsSEARMv7, cortex-A15, w/ vfpv4+neon, et al
00:52.03WarheadsSEdual 1.4?Ghz
00:52.04keeblerI've got 3 A20-SoM chips all running various flavors, plus my 2 EOMA-A20s. I'd say, depending on how you configure your WM and Networking Interfaces, they can be pretty peppy... BUT, not as fast as the Exynos 5
00:53.12theborgeri got another sd card here, probley stick arch on that one. see how it is
00:53.24keeblerCan't stand booting off SD. :/
00:53.39keeblerboottime sped up 5seconds booting from NAND.
00:53.48keebler(15second from power to desktop)
00:54.16theborgerhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/lotec25/arm_zpsd1368d5b.jpg
00:56.17keeblertheborger: This is what I'm running right now. :) http://i.imgur.com/Iy4dznA.jpg
00:56.46keeblerWe're building some security centric devices around it.
00:57.13theborgerthat looks like an Olimex board
00:57.19keeblerNope. :)
00:57.39keeblerPredates most of Olimex's Allwinner products.
00:57.42theborgerwhat are the A20 specs
00:58.00keeblerDual Cortex A7 at 1.2ghz
01:01.37theborgerthat is a nice board
01:22.21ssvbkeebler: 1.2ghz is higher than the safe limit of overclocking for a10/a20 chips, many of them can't run so fast
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01:24.39ssvbkeebler: the nominal speed for a10 is 1008mhz, and for a20 it is either 912mhz or 960mhz
01:27.36crazedpsyceh? is that just without cooling, or unrelated?
01:30.32WarheadsSEcould be a destabilization not related to heat
02:03.15theborgerhum
02:03.20theborgernow i have no sound
02:03.26theborgerit is unmuted in alsamixer
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03:08.35theborgerhum yea sound is borked
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06:11.30keeblerssvb: The nominal-default speed for the A20 is set to 912mhz at 1.4v, iirc. However, it can be run at 1008mhz with relative ease and saftey, and I do believe the Mele M5 is running it at the full 1.2ghz?
06:12.38keeblerThat said I'm less concerned with Mhz, and more concerned with the GMAC interface. I've yet to see ANYONE employ 10/100/1000 ethernet using the GMAC PHY.
06:13.05keeblerWell, I can't say anyone, I know of one company doing it, but they haven't released the stuff yet.
06:13.13keeblertheir.
06:16.59keeblerIt seems Olimex is having the same problems the other company is with gmac, not to mention the iMX6's Gbit PHY suffers from a similar issue of limited throughput
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11:55.02tzafrirhi, someone gave me a nice metal case for a raspberry pi (but not the board itself).
11:55.17tzafrirThe case has holes carved specifically for the pi.
11:55.38tzafrirI'd like to use that case (for various reasons). But I prefer a different board.
11:56.05tzafrirAny idea if there's a better board physically compatible with the rpi?
12:01.15wumpussolidrun has development boards (carrier one) which are almost physically compatible with the rpi, IIRC there is only a small difference in the size/position of the usb
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12:58.42SPGlkcl master 91e1d00 rhombus community_ideas/kde_tablet/news/2nd_revision_Camera_Status.html * add camera status report * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=91e1d00
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13:12.41theborgeri am still having an issue with sound in crouton.
13:12.46theborgerno idea what is going on here
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14:31.20theborgeranyone some help with sound issues? i really can not find the problem
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15:17.11theborgerrunning aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav  outputs sound
15:17.20theborgerwhat in the heck am i missing
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15:29.54tzafrirwumpus, could you provide a link? I could not find those dev-boards on http://solid-run.com/
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17:31.58theborgerWarheadsSE: you around yet?
17:33.48WarheadsSEyup
17:33.54theborgerso
17:33.59theborgerinstall arch
17:34.01theborgerbut no X
17:34.07theborgeris that not installed by default?
17:34.12WarheadsSEnope
17:34.21theborgerok
17:35.34WarheadsSEone of those things about arch
17:37.54theborgerWarheadsSE: for the love of me i can not get sound working in ubuntu
17:38.21theborgerif i run aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav  it outputs sound
17:38.36theborgerbut can not get any sound from firefox etc
17:39.47WarheadsSEOkay, weill I suppose it is not poointg at the right place.
17:39.56WarheadsSEAre the outputs proprly unmuted?
17:42.20theborgeras far as i know
17:45.24WarheadsSEThen I can't say much other than it is likely that FF is not configured to output to the right sink
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