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| 00:31.22 | keebler | Anyone able to recommend a decent Dual Link DVI-D Transmitter capable of WQSXGA? |
| 00:32.10 | keebler | Looking at the Silicon Image SII1178CSU, but there's no reliable large quantity source. |
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| 00:40.51 | keebler | luke: 19:31 < keebler> Anyone able to recommend a decent Dual Link DVI-D Transmitter capable of WQSXGA? |
| 00:40.55 | keebler | 19:32 < keebler> Looking at the Silicon Image SII1178CSU, but there's no reliable large quantity source. |
| 00:41.31 | keebler | lkcl_: ^^ |
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| 00:44.33 | keebler | lkcl_: Also, do you have any powerpoint presentations prepared that you would like me to present on QiMOD's behalf tomorrow? |
| 00:45.12 | keebler | I don't know if I'll have the chance to get that far into detail, but it never hurts. |
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| 05:09.20 | keebler | focus_it: can I sub the 33uf for a 22uf? |
| 05:16.27 | keebler | nvm |
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| 10:50.06 | focus_it | keebler: any cap will do - it goes up if there is shimmering noise on VGA when CPU is working |
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| 12:25.25 | keebler | focus_it: Yeah, I figured, so I went with the 22uf. |
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| 16:33.46 | Vaevictus_ | hey guys. So I have two Mele M9 set top boxes on their way from china. googling around it seems the a31 soc hasnt got linux available for it yet, but I found an indiegogo campaign where they show a video of an a31 tablet running ubuntu. I asked the guys running the campaign to provide source but they refused. What gives? do you think they are full of shit to attract people to fund their campaign? |
| 16:34.27 | Vaevictus_ | http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pengpod-1040-quad-core-linux-android-dual-booting-tablets |
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| 17:40.11 | keebler | Neal you here? Vaevictus_ they might have refused for fear of canabalizing their work. Not a fan of the A31 at all, and I would abandon it in favor of the A51m coming out soon. |
| 17:40.37 | keebler | Well, not sure when the A51m will come out actually. |
| 17:43.28 | keebler | Ignore A51m. I was wrong on the name. |
| 17:43.34 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, they will provide the source once they are selling the product. so you can make your pledge ;) |
| 17:44.10 | keebler | It's a risk of doing opensource + crowdfunding, and I'm not against the practice. |
| 17:45.29 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, meanwhile you can take advantage of the A31 sdk by Allwinner which is publicly available due to guys from Pengpod, btw. |
| 17:45.42 | keebler | :) |
| 17:52.27 | keebler | arokux1: Btw, are you looking for a full fledged server or just a simple NAS? |
| 17:54.19 | arokux1 | keebler, actually all-in-one would be perfect. |
| 17:55.27 | keebler | We've been toying with the idea of using a Marvell SATA Port Multiplier, but not really comfortable with the RAID solutions. |
| 17:55.47 | keebler | for the A20-SoM |
| 17:57.04 | arokux1 | keebler, very interesting, since you see there are no such _open_ products on the market. |
| 18:00.56 | Vaevictus_ | keebler: ./ arokux1 , so you know these guys doing the pengopod? the ubuntu they are showing running on a31 in a video is not "faked" then? this is great.they do not seem to be doing well on their funding goal though, good luck to them. |
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| 18:02.24 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, yes, these guys talk to us in #linux-sunxi, you may check logs, drachensun is the guy from pengpod. |
| 18:02.45 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, he would like you as a customer very much... |
| 18:02.52 | drachensun | indeed :-) |
| 18:03.10 | drachensun | yeah, its not faked, thats LXDE running |
| 18:03.11 | Vaevictus_ | thanks I will check. I will pledge some money - not interested in the tablet but will donate something their direction nonetheless |
| 18:03.34 | drachensun | btw, I'm the pengpod guy |
| 18:03.45 | Vaevictus_ | lol ok ;) |
| 18:03.52 | drachensun | ah that vaevictus |
| 18:03.57 | drachensun | thanks I meant |
| 18:03.57 | Vaevictus_ | no offense, but you can understand my scepticism |
| 18:04.38 | drachensun | hey, I didn't refuse, we are going to have it up eventually but time, y'know |
| 18:04.47 | Vaevictus_ | yeah i understand |
| 18:04.47 | drachensun | I havent been shaving I've got so little time |
| 18:04.58 | drachensun | I will give you a warning about those mele boxes |
| 18:05.10 | Vaevictus_ | im all ears |
| 18:05.10 | drachensun | we got some, thought they might make a good 'light' dev kit |
| 18:05.21 | drachensun | problem is, they don't reflash like the tablets |
| 18:05.47 | drachensun | Mele's method of updating them is with bootable sd cards that run a reflash program |
| 18:06.23 | drachensun | but making bootable SD cards has pretty very difficult for us, so we abandoned using them awhile back |
| 18:06.31 | drachensun | and went to just flashing everything internally |
| 18:06.38 | Vaevictus_ | arghhh i kind of assumed they would be like the mele a1000 (ie, piece of piss) |
| 18:07.43 | Vaevictus_ | well thanks for the warning. I kinda bought them just because I found a site listing them at crazy low price, got 2 at 44 dollars a piece :0) |
| 18:08.00 | drachensun | wow, thats an A31 model? |
| 18:08.24 | drachensun | I know they have a fix different names for A31 boxes that all look the same to me |
| 18:08.27 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, wow, show the website plz! :) |
| 18:08.48 | Vaevictus_ | yeah, a company I buy my ecigarrete stuff listed them, screwed up and listed them waaaaay below the proper price, i managed to snag two before they raised the price back up to 130$ |
| 18:08.57 | Vaevictus_ | it |
| 18:09.09 | Vaevictus_ | the site is fasttech.com but you are too late im afraid |
| 18:09.21 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, :D |
| 18:11.12 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, lucky guy. do you think they will ship to you at that price? (2x44) |
| 18:11.33 | Vaevictus_ | they are already shipped, i've received tracking numbers |
| 18:11.57 | Vaevictus_ | a couple of people on the xbmc forum also got hold of them at that price and theirs shipped too |
| 18:13.16 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, cool |
| 18:13.43 | drachensun | My mele rep did send me some info about creating the bootable cards |
| 18:13.47 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, btw, there is radxa board with RK3188 if this is interesting for you.. |
| 18:14.13 | arokux1 | drachensun, could that be published on sunxi.org wiki? |
| 18:14.15 | drachensun | and mripard has been able to make bootable SD cards |
| 18:14.28 | drachensun | I dont see why not |
| 18:14.44 | Vaevictus_ | thanks arokux but if I buy any more "useless linux stuff" my wife will make my life even more of a living hell |
| 18:14.48 | drachensun | its in bad engrish if I recall but I didn't try to use it |
| 18:15.03 | drachensun | lol |
| 18:15.04 | arokux1 | drachensun, just dump it here: http://linux-sunxi.org/Mele_M9 |
| 18:15.25 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, you just sell one of the Mele 9 and buy two radxa boards :D |
| 18:15.56 | arokux1 | drachensun, ppl will improve it eventually, or maybe not.. who knows. but this could be useful info. |
| 18:16.36 | drachensun | yeah, I see someone starting writing up creating a card that way but looks like it didn't work |
| 18:16.47 | Vaevictus_ | ahhh nice plan! |
| 18:16.49 | arokux1 | Vaevictus_, btw, join sunxi.org - ML and IRC. however A31 is not so welcomed there.... so you'd need to send patches by yourself. |
| 18:17.03 | Vaevictus_ | drachensun: just pledged 220 bucks |
| 18:17.09 | Vaevictus_ | good luck |
| 18:18.02 | arokux1 | drachensun, just dump your info and make a notice "it might not work" :) |
| 18:18.08 | drachensun | thanks, we really appreciate it |
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| 18:19.07 | Vaevictus_ | one last question drachensun - Im guessing you have no video hardware accelaration on that tablet right? |
| 18:19.18 | drachensun | we have some |
| 18:19.24 | Vaevictus_ | i mean VPU not GPU |
| 18:19.28 | drachensun | ah |
| 18:19.43 | drachensun | well the latest cedar stuff from Allwinner supports omx |
| 18:20.17 | Vaevictus_ | *cries* why dont they just release the source for cedarx.it must be full of licence infractionns |
| 18:20.18 | drachensun | and so the android SDK is setup to build a standard wrapper library that everything can use under Android |
| 18:20.38 | keebler | arokux1: Yeah, that's the problem (no open RAID/SATA Multplier options). |
| 18:20.56 | keebler | at least no reliable open options |
| 18:21.11 | drachensun | so in Linux you would need libhybris still I think |
| 18:21.24 | drachensun | we tested that with the powervr gpu under nemo/mer |
| 18:21.32 | arokux1 | keebler, nobody did RE so far? :( |
| 18:21.38 | drachensun | it works, and got 50 fps on the cinematic demo |
| 18:22.02 | drachensun | I haven't tried to use cedar under linux |
| 18:22.36 | keebler | arokux1: RE? |
| 18:22.39 | drachensun | but from everything we have heard the silicon hasn't changed between the A10 and now for this, so the RE they are doing on the A10 should work as well |
| 18:22.44 | drachensun | Reverse Engineering |
| 18:22.48 | keebler | Oh |
| 18:23.16 | keebler | No, not from us yet, and I haven't seen any notable progress. |
| 18:23.26 | arokux1 | keebler, just start a project like lkcl_ did, and in half a year or so you'll have a working driver. |
| 18:23.40 | keebler | Hah. If only I had the time. |
| 18:24.12 | keebler | It's hard enough as it is working 3 jobs and being a full time dad. |
| 18:24.40 | arokux1 | :( |
| 18:25.19 | arokux1 | keebler, what port multiplier you think is good for A20-SOM, although without a working driver? |
| 18:25.33 | arokux1 | keebler, what exact hardware part, I mean. |
| 18:25.45 | keebler | Trying to build up my private company enough so that I can break my two contracts and payback the bonuses. |
| 18:26.58 | keebler | Well, we were looking at the Marvell options, but it's full of NDAs and select OEM distributors. http://www.marvell.com/storage/system-solutions/sata-port-multiplier.jsp |
| 18:27.20 | keebler | That, and no ARM boards use SATA 3.0 to my knowledge. |
| 18:28.06 | keebler | Then there's Silicon Image. |
| 18:28.53 | keebler | Like the Silicon Image Sil3512 for example. |
| 18:29.09 | keebler | But it's only SATA 1.0 |
| 18:29.15 | keebler | But "relatively" cheap. |
| 18:29.20 | arokux1 | keebler, do you thinks SATA II of A20 will be fast enough? |
| 18:29.53 | keebler | arokux1: Yeah, and doing tests with my EOMA card at 3Gpbs seems to be working great. |
| 18:29.56 | arokux1 | think* |
| 18:30.34 | keebler | Needs Gbit. Which I'm working with a vendor now that is developing an A20 + Gbit SoM. |
| 18:31.05 | arokux1 | keebler, Ethernet you mean? |
| 18:31.08 | keebler | yes |
| 18:31.21 | keebler | Sorry, I wasn't clear. |
| 18:31.56 | arokux1 | keebler, guys from Olimex were having some problems with getting GMAC to work, although guys from Cubietech seems to have the solution |
| 18:32.24 | arokux1 | they'll publish patches once the board will go on sale, maybe it could be useful for you. |
| 18:33.26 | arokux1 | keebler, this SoM will have GMAC: http://olimex.wordpress.com/2013/09/04/a20-som-eur-35-dual-core-cortex-a7-at-1ghz-prototypes-complete/ |
| 18:34.08 | keebler | Yeah, |
| 18:35.10 | arokux1 | keebler, do you know if one of those actually has a port multiplier hardware in it? http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/What_kind_of_CPU_does_my_NAS_have |
| 18:35.11 | keebler | The one we're using is 240pin SODIMM |
| 18:35.20 | keebler | SOM |
| 18:36.32 | keebler | With the RTL8100 on board |
| 18:37.26 | keebler | arokux1: Looking at the wiki you posted. |
| 18:37.35 | keebler | I need a full list of hardware. |
| 18:37.55 | arokux1 | keebler, I'm asking because they publish their GPL code: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dsgpl/files/ |
| 18:38.21 | keebler | awesome |
| 18:43.13 | arokux1 | keebler, maybe there is a driver for a port multiplier buried in them, just a thought. |
| 18:43.20 | keebler | I'm researching |
| 18:43.46 | keebler | By drivers, you mean ARM compatible drivers? |
| 18:44.32 | arokux1 | keebler, yes, they are running on ARM SoCs |
| 18:44.37 | keebler | yeah |
| 18:44.48 | keebler | Looking at the DS213J |
| 18:46.13 | keebler | need to look at this. http://www.rosewill.com/products/1188/productdetail_overview.htm#/Mgnt/Uploads/ImagesForProduct/ImgPrd-1188-Cm[e0afc9ed23044dae8e19d65d0f47a896].jpg |
| 18:46.28 | arokux1 | keebler, also see: https://github.com/klightspeed/linux-3.x-synology |
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| 18:48.17 | keebler | arokux1: looking at the drivers now |
| 18:49.16 | keebler | The rosewill uses the SiI3132R5 |
| 18:51.00 | keebler | I'll go to the hardware store in a few minutes and check it out. |
| 18:52.11 | arokux1 | :) |
| 18:52.12 | arokux1 | ok |
| 18:54.06 | keebler | hmm |
| 18:54.20 | keebler | looks like the 3132 already has linux support |
| 18:54.30 | keebler | It's a rather old chip |
| 18:54.56 | keebler | sil24.c |
| 18:55.03 | keebler | source |
| 18:55.42 | keebler | hmm. :) Might buy it and try to roll some magic. |
| 18:57.49 | keebler | I wonder what the DS213J is using. |
| 19:00.10 | keebler | Anyway, that Rosewill RS5 I posted is SATAII and supports upto 5 HDDs and has Linux Support already |
| 19:00.13 | keebler | It's $170 |
| 19:00.45 | arokux1 | keebler, so cheap.. |
| 19:00.56 | arokux1 | why DS213J? |
| 19:01.18 | arokux1 | keebler, and not DS213air? |
| 19:01.56 | keebler | Either or, best chance devices to maintain ARMv7 support and reverse engineer if needed. |
| 19:03.59 | arokux1 | keebler, this is diff to the corresponding vanilla kernel I've shown to you on github |
| 19:04.01 | arokux1 | keebler, http://sprunge.us/gMdb?diff |
| 19:04.15 | arokux1 | keebler, no sata drivers, just some setup boiler plate |
| 19:04.53 | keebler | sweet |
| 19:05.19 | arokux1 | keebler, take a look, here is boot log: https://github.com/klightspeed/linux-3.x-synology/wiki/syno-628x-boot-on-DS211j |
| 19:06.02 | keebler | AWESOME. Very encouraging. |
| 19:06.27 | arokux1 | keebler, can you spot which driver they use for multiplication? |
| 19:06.35 | arokux1 | keebler, from boot log |
| 19:07.16 | keebler | Hmm.. looking, I do see it's ARMv5, iirc, and also looks like Scott mentioned it too, ARMv5 support was removed from mainline? |
| 19:08.51 | arokux1 | keebler, no idea. |
| 19:08.59 | keebler | hmm raid6 |
| 19:09.37 | keebler | still looking for more info |
| 19:10.18 | arokux1 | keebler, the products from Synology are either ARMv5 or Intel Atom |
| 19:10.27 | arokux1 | keebler, the most recent ones |
| 19:10.29 | keebler | THey have ARMv7 |
| 19:10.36 | keebler | in the DS213j |
| 19:10.51 | arokux1 | keebler, ah, true. |
| 19:10.58 | keebler | hence my focus |
| 19:11.00 | keebler | on it |
| 19:11.22 | arokux1 | keebler, I see. anyway, a port multiplier driver shouldn't be arch dependent |
| 19:11.54 | keebler | Well, no, and taking my SI3132 refernce, it's already available. |
| 19:12.08 | keebler | Just can't tell what the DS211j is using |
| 19:12.59 | arokux1 | keebler, "no" -- you think port multiplier is in the SoC? |
| 19:13.33 | arokux1 | keebler, sorry I didn't get why port multiplier driver should be arch dependent. |
| 19:14.21 | keebler | That's what I'm trying to decifer. |
| 19:14.21 | keebler | RMv5 support was removed from mainline? |
| 19:14.24 | keebler | ack |
| 19:14.28 | keebler | ignore |
| 19:14.35 | keebler | [ 7.705957] brd: module loaded |
| 19:14.36 | keebler | [ 7.709683] sata_mv sata_mv.0: cannot get optional clkdev |
| 19:14.36 | keebler | [ 7.715186] sata_mv sata_mv.0: slots 32 ports 2 |
| 19:14.36 | keebler | [ 7.721303] scsi0 : sata_mv |
| 19:14.36 | keebler | [ 7.724495] scsi1 : sata_mv |
| 19:14.38 | keebler | [ 7.727592] ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 irq 21 |
| 19:14.40 | keebler | [ 7.731713] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 irq 21 |
| 19:15.26 | keebler | prior to that is [ 5.663796] synology_hdd_powerup: HDD1 powering up |
| 19:15.26 | keebler | [ 5.672595] bio: create slab <bio-0> at 0 |
| 19:15.26 | keebler | [ 5.838438] raid6: int32x1 101 MB/s |
| 19:16.16 | arokux1 | keebler, yes, this is from line 458 here: http://sprunge.us/gMdb?diff |
| 19:21.59 | keebler | Hmm, the Kirkwood: MV88F6281-A1 has two onboard SATA interfaces |
| 19:22.07 | keebler | http://www.marvell.com/embedded-processors/kirkwood/assets/HW_88F6281_OpenSource.pdf |
| 19:22.38 | keebler | no port multiplying going on |
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| 19:29.27 | arokux1 | keebler, http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/arm/mach-kirkwood/Kconfig?a=arm#L95 |
| 19:29.35 | arokux1 | mainline |
| 19:30.05 | arokux1 | keebler, but they need something for 4xbay boxes |
| 19:33.54 | arokux1 | keebler, in DS413j they use http://www.marvell.com/embedded-processors/kirkwood/assets/88f6282-3_pb.pdf |
| 19:34.24 | arokux1 | keebler, but DS*4*13j means 4xbay, so there should be port multiplier inside? |
| 19:38.46 | keebler | arokux1: Yes, if you can get me the dmesg of the D413j |
| 19:38.54 | arokux1 | keebler, :) |
| 19:39.02 | arokux1 | sorry, I do not own it. |
| 19:39.18 | arokux1 | keebler, gotta go now. |
| 19:39.23 | arokux1 | bye |
| 19:39.44 | keebler | Only thing that might be an issue. is that if it is using some sort of port multiplication, it could be on the PCIe bus. |
| 19:39.59 | keebler | hasta luego |
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| 21:42.25 | arokux2 | keebler, any new findings? |
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