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15:23.12 | jelly-home | hi, has anyone seen one of these in practice? http://www.gizmag.com/utilite-mini-computer/28312/ |
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15:27.07 | jelly-home | ($99, i.MX6, 2x gigabit eth, 5x usb, orders start next month) |
15:29.23 | traeak | hmm |
15:29.28 | traeak | what gpu part is that? |
15:31.09 | traeak | honestly I see this as an almost perfect router |
15:31.47 | traeak | super multitask router |
15:33.11 | traeak | doesthe mx6 natively support those gigabit ports? |
15:33.31 | arokux2 | you can have a router for $40 |
15:34.30 | traeak | what kind of router? |
15:34.55 | traeak | i have an asus rtn6 sitting here and it's definitely underpowered for what i need |
15:35.01 | arokux2 | sorry, 50, with 1 usb port |
15:35.10 | traeak | rtn16 |
15:35.21 | arokux2 | TP-LINK TL-WR1043ND |
15:36.01 | traeak | i stuck an ftp server on the asus rtn16 and it only sustains about 2-3MB/s on gigabit |
15:36.10 | arokux2 | was thinking of buying it, flashing with open-wrt and attaching a hard drive to it |
15:37.56 | traeak | checking if it even has support for dd-wrt or whatever |
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15:38.04 | traeak | i have a drive attached to my rtn16 at the moment |
15:38.26 | jelly-home | arokux2: a wr842nd runs openwrt well and deals with usb storage and usb 3g modem; I don't need gigabit for it but I'm not sure the SoC in WR1043ND would be good enough to read from disk and push gigabit speeds out at the same time |
15:38.27 | arokux2 | traeak, strange, yours have better specs in terms of cpu/ram |
15:39.02 | arokux2 | traeak, so strange it is so slow |
15:40.25 | arokux2 | jelly-home, you need gigabit speeds? :) my internet connection is 25Mbps, so I do not need them |
15:41.39 | traeak | arokux2: because i have full gigabit pipe into here, i was making it double up for duties other than router |
15:41.41 | jelly-home | arokux2: it need it for local traffic, but not for outbound or inbound to them internets |
15:41.49 | arokux2 | TL-WR1043ND should be >= wr842nd |
15:41.59 | traeak | basically this is at work, so demands are more than a typicaly home router |
15:42.03 | jelly-home | yes, but not by much |
15:42.09 | traeak | oh the killer |
15:42.20 | traeak | is transferring data *from* the router to the internal network |
15:42.22 | arokux2 | ok, home usage in my case only |
15:42.25 | traeak | it can't sustain any throughput |
15:44.25 | arokux2 | but now that you are speeaking of it... why not add 50$ and buy a device where normal linux disto could be installed.. without the need to fiddle with openwrt and the like?! |
15:46.34 | jelly-home | because $50 != $0 |
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15:47.14 | traeak | you mean something like this: http://www.gizmag.com/utilite-mini-computer/28312/ |
15:47.19 | traeak | that someone posted :-p |
15:48.15 | arokux2 | http://utilite-computer.com/web/utilite-specifications it will be in different modifications? |
15:49.09 | traeak | i have no big reason to push for something like this, just thought it interesting that the utilite mini would make a great super router |
15:49.19 | traeak | the dual gigabit as long as they are real gigabit |
15:50.27 | arokux2 | jelly-home, does the power of the usb port of the router suffice for the external usb drive? |
15:51.12 | jelly-home | arokux2: no idea, I tried a 16GB usb stick not a HDD |
15:51.17 | traeak | i currently have a wall warted older usb external hooked up to the router i have here |
15:51.58 | traeak | although i did have a usb3 toshiba bus powered drive on there for a little bit |
15:51.58 | traeak | hmm |
15:52.07 | traeak | usb3, what grief |
15:54.04 | arokux2 | i was just thinking of having one device for all my basic needs |
15:54.10 | arokux2 | with one AC adapter |
15:54.47 | arokux2 | a router with usb port seemed to be a solution. since after installing openwrt I can turn it into micro server |
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16:09.07 | rm | better separate things |
16:09.07 | rm | into 2 devices |
16:09.11 | rm | a router and a server |
16:15.54 | traeak | rm: depends on your needs, sometimes having too many machines sucks. I treat my router like a DMZ dealy. To access from outside or from inside both requires ssh for direct access |
16:16.05 | traeak | i think i have external ssh disabled |
16:17.41 | rm | I mean that trying to fit anything beyond basic router into the limited RAM, CPU, and most importantly the neutered "embedded" OpenWRT software |
16:17.57 | rm | is a certain way to great grief and sorrow :) |
16:18.39 | rm | and the other way round, trying to route/firewall stuff on a server that also stores sensitive data, is not always optimal (although this *can* be done correctly) |
16:18.54 | traeak | the router distros are pretty limited on what they can do. i have tomato on the asus, its set up to put external ftp accessible storage on it |
16:19.14 | traeak | so its sort of a private "drop box" is all this one does |
16:20.55 | traeak | it might be nice to leverage the static IP address to do stuff like drop software releases on it for customers, etc. been using hostmonster for that though |
16:21.25 | traeak | anywaysa not much to do with hardware though |
16:22.26 | rm | I prefer to put an MK802 next to the router |
16:22.33 | rm | and it runs real Debian and has 1 GB of RAM |
16:22.42 | rm | anything remotely complex goes there |
16:22.47 | rm | router = only routing |
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19:44.23 | popolon | mSATA SSD, up to 512GB (for the Utilite) ? |
19:44.38 | popolon | does someone know the limit for the cubieboard 1 /2 ? |
19:44.58 | popolon | utilitie => 2 A9, consume more power |
19:46.35 | WarheadsSE | popolon: "limit" |
19:47.02 | WarheadsSE | to the size of drive addressable by the cubie boards sata port? |
19:49.24 | WarheadsSE | because unless I am mistaken, as large as the disk is capable of being with regards to being a sata disk, and the linux kernel |
19:49.39 | traeak | that woudl be a SATA2 standard right? |
19:49.53 | traeak | as i recall ide had a hard limit itself |
19:49.53 | WarheadsSE | according to the spec |
19:50.22 | traeak | or was that just the lame partition tables at the tiem? |
19:50.23 | traeak | anyways |
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21:04.13 | popolon | oh |
21:04.14 | popolon | ok |
21:04.20 | popolon | msata could be more limitéd |
21:17.40 | traeak | better than nothing? |
21:19.23 | WarheadsSE | might be that they just dont make anything bigger? |
21:19.36 | WarheadsSE | it's mSATA ffs, meant to be small |
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