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| 11:06.23 | *** topic/#arm-netbook is EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - http://rhombus-tech.net/ |
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| 11:13.49 | anunnaki | testing. www.google.com |
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| 12:20.33 | focus_it | is this an A10 i see before me? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zoostorm-Play-ARM-Cortex-A8-1-2GHz-1GB-RAM-4GB-Flash-NOOPT-Wi-Fi-Wand-Remo-/360570802121?pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item53f3b1cfc9&ssPageName=RSS:B:STORE:GB:101 |
| 12:22.07 | focus_it | Another link - http://www.ebuyer.com/434380-zoostorm-play-3305-1111 |
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| 12:23.11 | penguin42 | hehe sounds like it |
| 12:23.25 | user135 | indeed |
| 12:24.17 | buZz | bit pricy |
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| 12:25.54 | focus_it | I agree - about $100 when translated. |
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| 12:39.46 | buZz | still is hunting for a nice 7" A10 tablet |
| 12:40.00 | buZz | seen some for 70 usd, but most have 512mb ram (N) |
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| 12:59.16 | ganbold_ | buZz: did you check ainol? http://www.ainol-novo.com/buy-products.html |
| 13:00.05 | buZz | ganbold_: just seen them with A13 chips |
| 13:01.54 | ganbold_ | http://www.ainol-novo.com/ainol-novo7-advanced-ii-android-4-0-tablet-pc.html but out of stock |
| 13:02.30 | buZz | and again 512MB |
| 13:02.31 | buZz | :P |
| 13:02.45 | ganbold_ | http://www.ainol-novo.com/ainol-novo-7-aurora-white-ram-1g-7-inch-lg-ips-touch-screen-android-tablet-16gb.html |
| 13:02.49 | buZz | ebay and aliexpress feature some |
| 13:02.51 | ganbold_ | 1gb |
| 13:03.09 | buZz | >100 usd |
| 13:03.15 | ganbold_ | ah :) |
| 13:03.36 | buZz | i can work with a 800x480 screen on 7" |
| 13:03.47 | buZz | dont need retina/ips/zomg1080p screens |
| 13:05.37 | ganbold_ | amlogic, rockchip, boxchip etc, do those have any substantial difference than a10? |
| 13:06.27 | ganbold_ | buZz: did you check http://micdigi.com? |
| 13:07.08 | buZz | yeah high noise, low signal |
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| 13:09.16 | buZz | rockchip/amlogic i have no clue about running my own distro on it |
| 13:09.42 | buZz | with an A10 tablet, i could just use my experience from cubieboard to make a rootfs for it |
| 13:11.22 | ganbold_ | yeah, not so many a10 tablets |
| 13:13.47 | buZz | hmhm |
| 13:13.58 | buZz | i'll find a proper one eventually ;) |
| 13:26.26 | penguin42 | buZz: Well the rootfs's are pretty similar; except for the boot loader and the X hacking across most of the ARM devices |
| 13:28.44 | penguin42 | buZz: The harder problem (as I found out and haven't yet fixed) is that the rk boards are somewhat easier to brick |
| 13:29.01 | buZz | allwinner a10 seems unbrickable |
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| 13:36.25 | penguin42 | nod |
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| 14:54.45 | w00tc0d3 | buZz: well, my Exynos4412 is unbrickable! :D |
| 14:54.53 | w00tc0d3 | it's capable of booting from SDCard |
| 14:55.06 | w00tc0d3 | Samsung Galaxy SIII |
| 14:55.25 | buZz | yes very nice, now point me to a 70 usd exynos4412 tablet |
| 14:55.31 | buZz | OH DOESNT EXIST |
| 14:55.32 | buZz | right |
| 15:01.19 | rz2k | w00tc0d3: only problem is that you need signed u-boot and trustzone env |
| 15:01.24 | rz2k | thats just fyi |
| 15:01.51 | w00tc0d3 | rz2k: we broke tz afaik |
| 15:02.06 | w00tc0d3 | we have uboot running |
| 15:02.19 | rz2k | any read about that? |
| 15:02.38 | w00tc0d3 | buZz: point me to an Allwinner A10 quadcore A9 on 1 |
| 15:02.43 | w00tc0d3 | 1.6GHz* |
| 15:02.44 | rz2k | I have odroid-x2 that I cant run with my own u-boot because of tz/signing needed for fw1 |
| 15:02.46 | buZz | hahahaha |
| 15:02.47 | w00tc0d3 | oh it doesn't exists :D |
| 15:02.51 | buZz | A10 has singlecore |
| 15:03.07 | w00tc0d3 | rz2k: I'll give source code links |
| 15:03.12 | w00tc0d3 | buZz: that's why I said it :D |
| 15:03.17 | w00tc0d3 | buZz: you can't compare |
| 15:03.23 | buZz | yes i can |
| 15:03.26 | buZz | both have a price |
| 15:03.39 | buZz | also i started with 'i am searching an A10 7" tablet' |
| 15:03.48 | buZz | so suggesting exynos tablets has no point |
| 15:04.23 | rz2k | I remember only users using the old not signed bootloaders, samsung werent dicks at some moment, then this tz/signing started. |
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| 15:12.02 | w00tc0d3 | rz2k: github.com/Rebell |
| 15:13.37 | w00tc0d3 | rz2k: https://github.com/Rebell/exynos4_uboot |
| 15:20.28 | rz2k | this awesome |
| 15:20.31 | rz2k | https://github.com/Rebell/android_bootable_wave-fboot/tree/master/src |
| 15:21.13 | rz2k | looks like these guys just reversed that blob from samsung and dont worry anymore. |
| 15:27.01 | buZz | hahaha |
| 15:27.02 | buZz | http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/24/amd-turbo-dock-hands-on/ |
| 15:27.17 | buZz | tablet with keyboard dock, overclocking when docked |
| 15:27.33 | buZz | overclocking is enabled by pumping air from the keyboard to the tablet :P |
| 16:12.17 | penguin42 | I can't help but thinking that's solving the wrong problem :-) |
| 16:12.55 | buZz | heh yeah |
| 16:13.03 | buZz | also, its quadcore x86 |
| 16:13.08 | buZz | booooo |
| 16:13.09 | buZz | :) |
| 16:13.20 | penguin42 | yeh did you see the specs on the Google Pixel device? |
| 16:15.10 | buZz | HORRIBLE |
| 16:17.36 | penguin42 | but at least x86 MMU is turing complete: https://github.com/jbangert/trapcc |
| 16:18.40 | penguin42 | I'm just watching the youtube talk on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXmYIP7yiyQ |
| 16:43.21 | jelly-home | that's.. sick |
| 16:53.56 | buZz | and sexy :D |
| 16:58.45 | mnemoc | wanted that screen but with a exynos5 octa inside :| |
| 17:00.41 | jelly-home | and a pony! |
| 17:02.12 | mnemoc | and for $349 |
| 17:02.35 | buZz | 250 usd and should have a cupholder |
| 17:02.39 | buZz | :) |
| 17:12.45 | penguin42 | buZz: Well the i5 it's got should be able to keep your coffee warm |
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| 17:14.33 | buZz | sweet |
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| 17:33.10 | libv | mnemoc: +1 |
| 17:33.31 | libv | i was really disappointed to see that it had intel inside and an insane pricetag |
| 17:34.02 | penguin42 | ouch, $1300 |
| 17:34.16 | penguin42 | wonders what the cost of the LCD is |
| 17:34.51 | penguin42 | hmm is that a bad price for a good i5 laptop (other than the disk size) |
| 17:35.34 | specing | overpriced much? |
| 17:37.13 | penguin42 | I guess they're trying to price against a MacBook Retina |
| 17:38.20 | Turl | well, it has a better screen than one |
| 17:38.33 | Turl | and it supposedly can run full linux too |
| 17:38.41 | specing | penguin42: the problem is intel |
| 17:38.44 | Turl | google sent some patches mainline to support the touchscreen, touchpad and stuff |
| 17:38.57 | specing | intel is segmenting their market and is generally overpriced |
| 17:39.03 | Turl | (yes, it has a touchscreen too) |
| 17:39.15 | penguin42 | Turl: And as I understand their full power/system controllers |
| 17:39.33 | penguin42 | specing: Well the cost of the i5 would only be a small chunk of that price |
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| 17:40.34 | penguin42 | heck, it's only a 1.8GHz |
| 17:41.34 | penguin42 | I can't find it on ark.intel.com; odd - the lowest i5 I can find is 2.3GHz, lists as $250 |
| 17:45.16 | Turl | the screen is probably the priciest part |
| 17:45.55 | Turl | followed by the research&dev cost of adding konami code easter egg to the led thingy |
| 17:48.31 | penguin42 | Turl: I suspect that aluminium machined body can't be cheap and if it's they've done their own controller chip that is going to have cost a few $M |
| 17:49.29 | penguin42 | iFixit haven't got around to tearing one down yet :-( |
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| 17:54.08 | penguin42 | hmm 17" 1920x1200 replacement panels seem to be about $90 online that's not too bad; can't find prices on the higher res ones |
| 17:56.44 | penguin42 | iPad3 LCDs only seem to be about #60 - that would be kind of nice for something |
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| 19:31.17 | hno | Turl, whish watchdog code still have that comment? |
| 19:31.25 | hno | needs update. |
| 19:32.01 | Turl | hno: yes, it does |
| 19:32.13 | hno | Which one? |
| 19:32.26 | Turl | hno: the one on linux-sunxi |
| 19:32.37 | Turl | (is there any other one?) |
| 19:32.56 | hno | What on linux-sunxi? |
| 19:33.13 | Turl | the watchdog driver |
| 19:33.45 | hno | In the kernel? |
| 19:33.51 | Turl | yes |
| 19:34.15 | hno | thought you meant the site.. |
| 19:34.22 | Turl | nope, the code |
| 19:35.04 | hno | I don't see any such comment. Which version? |
| 19:36.04 | Turl | hno: https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/blob/sunxi-3.0/drivers/watchdog/sunxi_wdt.c#L18 |
| 19:36.32 | hno | Yes, found it now. |
| 19:36.47 | hno | it's a stale comment. |
| 19:43.59 | Turl | ok then, I'll ignore it :) |
| 19:45.05 | Turl | hno: also, does this one look ok to you? http://sprunge.us/UMgA |
| 19:46.12 | Turl | hno: I was using busybox watchdog -t/T options, which send the ioctl after the watchdog started (which is always the case, because it starts when you open the file), so it wasn't ever applying the correct times. |
| 19:46.14 | hno | Looks fine. |
| 19:47.17 | hno | Err, it need to be before the kick. |
| 19:47.41 | hno | Or actually, there should be no kick. set_timeout does kick. |
| 19:48.17 | Turl | yes, there is no extra kick (it has -) |
| 19:48.30 | Turl | better with colors :) http://sprunge.us/UMgA?diff |
| 19:48.35 | hno | Ah, yes, It's fine. |
| 19:48.41 | hno | is a bit tired tonight. |
| 19:49.53 | hno | Earlier the kick also set the timeout, But was before we knew the magic undocumented secret how to kick the watchdog. |
| 19:51.04 | Turl | hno: the driver needs a bit of a rewrite for mainline, there's a watchdog framework now |
| 19:51.19 | hno | ok |
| 19:52.19 | hno | when was the framework added? |
| 19:53.41 | hno | Ok, I see it. Got confused as there is several other watchdog drivers not using the framework. |
| 19:55.11 | Turl | it got merged on 3.0 apparently |
| 19:58.17 | hno | Yes, which is before I wrote the sunxi driver, but happened to start from one which is not using the framework. |
| 20:03.59 | hno | Really should get the platform_device definition moved out of the driver as well. |
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| 20:20.01 | user135 | Turl, do you know how I can enable the ram console with the sunxi kernel? |
| 20:22.57 | Turl | user135: yes, you can |
| 20:23.08 | Turl | ah, sorry, how |
| 20:23.11 | Turl | enable it on the kernel config |
| 20:23.46 | user135 | okay, what's the switch? |
| 20:24.23 | Turl | CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE |
| 20:24.36 | user135 | great! thanks :) |
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