| 00:16.35 | lkcl | hramrach: i looked at the exynos5. i know someone who can do the board. the issue will be ramping the clock speed down to keep within the thermal limit (about 3.5 watts) |
| 00:22.39 | libv | which then makes the exynos5 pointless |
| 01:24.35 | doneill | "I don't always transfer files off my embedded system from the shell, but when I do I use busybox telnet and uuencode." Turns out that wifi adapter is on a USB bus which wasn't initialized because my script.bin has a base address which skips the embedded bus controller. |
| 01:25.02 | doneill | er. script.bin specifies a base address which skips one of the usb controllers. |
| 01:27.31 | RITRedbeard_ | Bit off topic, anything similiar to the Gizmoboard but cheaper/smaller footprint? |
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| 01:38.33 | vinifm | hi, the spi_sunxi can be compiled as module? |
| 01:41.04 | vinifm | hi, the spi_sunxi can be compiled and used as module? |
| 01:43.19 | vinifm | i get error when call spi_register_board_info() |
| 01:55.43 | L84Supper | a thermal limit of 3.5w for a type II or III cpu card is just an arbitrary number |
| 01:56.27 | L84Supper | exynos5 would be fine at max speed |
| 01:58.33 | L84Supper | add a few watts for DDR3 |
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| 02:07.37 | L84Supper | RITRedbeard_: cheaper with smaller footprint, no |
| 02:09.22 | L84Supper | RITRedbeard_: there are some less powerful x86 boards about that size for lower cost |
| 02:10.18 | RITRedbeard_ | You mean mini-itx |
| 02:10.20 | RITRedbeard_ | ? |
| 02:10.25 | L84Supper | smaller |
| 02:10.34 | RITRedbeard_ | links/names? |
| 02:12.28 | L84Supper | older geode boards, some VIA x86 and some 486-ish core SOC's |
| 02:13.19 | L84Supper | http://www.vortex86dx.com/ boards that use these |
| 02:15.58 | L84Supper | http://www.ewayco.com/100-low-cost-pc-products-low-cost-systems-embedded-systems-servers-lcd-pc-panel-pc.html |
| 02:16.55 | RITRedbeard_ | Seems Intel NuC sized, bit thick. |
| 02:17.24 | RITRedbeard_ | I think I can jam a gizmoboard into ultraportable chassis if I make my own heatsink design |
| 02:17.25 | L84Supper | there are more but I forget the vendors |
| 02:19.38 | L84Supper | too bad it has the giant stack of connectors on one side, it's another board layout that could only be made worse by adding a seat or handlebars as a feature |
| 02:20.08 | L84Supper | those should optional as headers |
| 02:23.10 | L84Supper | http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=956 or http://us.kontron.com/products/computeronmodules/com+express/com+express+compact/comecth6.html |
| 02:26.41 | L84Supper | the 3.5w limit makes as much sense as adding a 1Kg weight limit |
| 02:27.20 | fragmint | I thought it said it was 3.5w on TII and 10w on TIII |
| 02:28.15 | L84Supper | fragmint: the point is that the numbers are just pulled from between a pair of glutes |
| 02:28.37 | fragmint | true |
| 02:29.52 | L84Supper | there is no thermal spec since the mastermind behind the spec wouldn't know how to explain it |
| 02:30.40 | RITRedbeard_ | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856178002 This looks familiar! |
| 02:32.41 | L84Supper | http://www.minix.us/products/NEO-G4.html it doesn't say but does it use a Rockchip soc? |
| 02:34.14 | RITRedbeard_ | Could be. |
| 02:34.40 | RITRedbeard_ | I still have problems getting my MK802 to boot linux from sdcard so it has been collecting dust. |
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| 04:57.36 | rz2k | cnxsoft: I've commented on your blog, saw my nickname in comments :) |
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| 04:58.07 | cnxsoft | rz2K: replying now... Maybe I should do this here instead |
| 04:58.42 | rz2k | I'm here for an hour, then going to university |
| 04:59.01 | cnxsoft | I mostly spend my time blogging and reviewing stuffs, but during slow news day I may get involved a bit, so I may not spend that much time on development |
| 04:59.19 | cnxsoft | however I can help promoting the community, and recruting :) |
| 05:00.10 | cnxsoft | For communication, we could use irc, setup a mailing list (google groups or hosted in cnxsoft), or use some existing forums (e.g. armtvtech) |
| 05:00.29 | rz2k | I dont really trust armtvtech... :) |
| 05:00.49 | cnxsoft | We should also setup github repo for uboot and kernel |
| 05:01.22 | rz2k | yeah, RaYmAn wanted me to do that, will probably do today |
| 05:01.32 | cnxsoft | ok, lunch time... 20 minutes |
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| 05:18.41 | cnxsoft | So for the mailing list, we just go with google group like linux-sunxi, or you'd prefer another setup? |
| 05:21.40 | cnxsoft | rz2k: still here? |
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| 05:33.13 | rz2k | yes |
| 05:33.25 | rz2k | google groups will be ok |
| 05:39.03 | cnxsoft | ok, do you plan to see it up? Once github, irc channel, and mailing list are up, I can post about it. |
| 05:39.15 | cnxsoft | s/see/set/ |
| 05:39.48 | rz2k | I will try to figure out github today |
| 05:41.27 | rz2k | I will notify you when something will be up :) |
| 05:42.08 | cnxsoft | thanks :) |
| 05:42.11 | rz2k | now I got to go, will be back later. |
| 05:43.06 | RITRedbeard_ | blinks. |
| 05:43.14 | RITRedbeard_ | That's so cute and yet annoying. |
| 05:43.48 | RITRedbeard_ | Must be pretty extreme, 'university' at 12:45 AM EST |
| 05:54.05 | rm | he is in Moscow, you *a mild derogatory term of your choice* |
| 05:55.27 | RITRedbeard_ | Ah, so heading over to Advanced Communism POL-423 |
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| 06:29.09 | z72ka | Hi all, please, who know who is maintaining the linux-sunxi.org website? I want to share my findings about my Icoo D70GT A10 based tablet |
| 06:29.52 | doneill | Well here we are, got that H6 wifi to work. Strange that full 3D works with this Mali driver but 2D is unaccelerated. |
| 06:30.26 | RITRedbeard_ | rm I think |
| 06:30.31 | RITRedbeard_ | or someone like that |
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| 06:32.36 | z72ka | RITRedbeard: thank you |
| 06:33.33 | RITRedbeard_ | or hramrach |
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| 08:36.51 | fra79Wii | Hi guys, yesterday I've used heavily my all winner tablet (a90w) or the first time in one year
I've modified the wireless so the caption is slightly better so I was able while travelling to listen music and browse the net... |
| 08:37.10 | fra79Wii | the problem is that the apollo music player is not usoing |
| 08:37.30 | fra79Wii | using the CedarA to encoding mp3.. is it right? |
| 08:40.09 | fra79Wii | so the browsing was slightly laggy when listening mp3.. I'm using a recent cm10 build |
| 08:49.00 | doneill | I believe CM itself has to make use of Cedar in its media interface layer. |
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| 08:51.40 | andoma | 8mörrn |
| 08:51.50 | andoma | wrong window |
| 09:05.53 | fra79Wii | ,it's odd then because the video player makes use of cedar |
| 09:07.15 | fra79Wii | I'm looking into the code to see where the video code is using cedar.. I believe is using trough some sort of audio framework |
| 09:07.44 | fra79Wii | I suspect apollo is using a different framework or something... |
| 09:12.15 | hramrach | RITRedbeard_: it's a wiki, it maintains itself ;-) |
| 09:12.30 | hramrach | I have no idea who is running the server |
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| 11:09.12 | br- | what's the name of the sunxi sata driver? |
| 11:10.06 | buZz | rodger moore |
| 11:10.10 | buZz | no sorry, dont know ;) |
| 11:10.23 | buZz | lets see if i can find it |
| 11:10.26 | torindel | CONFIG_SW_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM? |
| 11:10.44 | mnemoc | sw_ahci_platform.ko |
| 11:10.57 | br- | thanks |
| 11:10.59 | mnemoc | torindel: yes, that's the CONFIG_ |
| 11:12.41 | br- | actually thats probably the wrong question. was wondering if the controller supports ncq (or is agnostic to such things), and what perf is generally like when connected to an SSD |
| 11:13.12 | br- | real question is estimating how many users of a huge full text index on an ssd he could fit on a mele |
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| 12:42.06 | jlj | oops, sorry |
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| 12:48.58 | Welsh | Started designing a card to break out the EOMA 68 connector to 0.1 headers |
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| 13:38.11 | rz2k | RITRedbeard_: no communism involved :3 |
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| 15:09.33 | RITRedbeard_ | Today's Lecture: How to spot a Trotskyite. |
| 15:09.48 | RITRedbeard_ | or no, rz2k? |
| 15:10.09 | Welsh | Do they look like gnomes? |
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| 15:41.02 | hramrach | lkcl: the exynos is useful for being more powerful. If you have to clock it down to fit it into an eoma it clearly shows the limit of eoma design |
| 15:44.00 | hramrach | and as L84Supper said it might not need that much clocking down. Perhaps the thermal design could be tested with a more powerful CPU like one of the AMD chips or with a stub card that just generates heat |
| 15:45.45 | L84Supper | it wouldn't have to be underclocked at all, the thermal specs are just random values picked out of a ... |
| 15:47.06 | hramrach | I wonder what the whole solution is supposed to look like. Imagine the card stuck into a device that is basically thermally non-conductive |
| 15:48.21 | L84Supper | that will be a problem for any device |
| 15:48.29 | hramrach | maybe it should be specified that the device that accepts the cards should be somewhat thermally conductive or specify in documentation how powerful cards it can cool under what conditions |
| 15:49.15 | L84Supper | it should, but he's still clueless as to how this all works |
| 15:50.38 | hramrach | you need not know how it works. Stick a card into a device in a lab (garage) let it run for a day, if it works device is certified to run with that card ;-) |
| 15:54.56 | rm | awesome :) I repurposed an old ATX case to hold my MK802 :) |
| 15:55.27 | hramrach | any reason to do that? |
| 15:55.50 | mnemoc | aren't ATX cases a little too big for an hdmi dongle? |
| 15:55.57 | rm | actually it's the MK802 + USB hub + USB NIC + USB soundcard + USD DisplayLink VGA + USB to PS/2 converter |
| 15:56.01 | rm | six functional units |
| 15:56.07 | rm | + a complete jumble of wires |
| 15:56.14 | rm | between them |
| 15:56.15 | mnemoc | picture? :) |
| 15:56.31 | hramrach | yes, that makes more sense then |
| 15:56.59 | rm | mnemoc, it's not too pretty and I don't have a camera |
| 15:57.11 | mnemoc | excuses :< |
| 15:57.17 | rm | I mean it is exceptionally pretty and clean on the OUTSIDE |
| 15:57.26 | rm | but inside the case only the MK802 is fixed in some fashion |
| 15:57.44 | rm | the rest is kind of positioned in a free manner :D |
| 15:58.00 | rm | but beats by 100x |
| 15:58.08 | rm | having all of this outside just lying around the place |
| 15:58.25 | hramrach | did you fix the peripherials to an ATX backplate to simulate a pc? ;-) |
| 15:59.04 | rm | yeah I had this idea :) |
| 15:59.21 | rm | would be cool to make a custom ATX backplate |
| 15:59.51 | rm | mostly with USB sockets |
| 15:59.54 | rm | but then more plugs/wires would need to stay on the outside |
| 16:00.23 | rm | as currently I simply closed off most of the holes on the back |
| 16:00.47 | rm | and run the wires in through a small one; will need to open the case to disconnect something |
| 16:00.56 | hramrach | many atx backplates have PS/2, hdmi, audio, etc |
| 16:01.11 | hramrach | but attaching stuff to it would be kind of challenging |
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| 16:21.21 | hramrach | would be nice project to make a piece of PCB with usb and hdmi to plug in a stick and ATX backplate on one side |
| 16:22.30 | hramrach | two ATX mounting holes and the backplate opening should be enough to hold it in place |
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| 16:34.27 | mnemoc | maybe the same PCB of http://linux-sunxi.org/User:Alejandro_Mery/Lapdock with the right mounting holes :) |
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| 16:56.22 | focus | I got penpod with Linaro booting from flash. |
| 16:56.49 | focus | It crashed, rebooted once or twice and now it don't want to boot :( |
| 16:57.36 | focus | How sad - even I could have got it working better than that - and I did - I got Gemei G2 with TF card booting lxde distro |
| 16:57.40 | mnemoc | focus: the #pengpod thing has a dedicated channel |
| 16:58.05 | focus | mnemoc: thanks - didn't know |
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| 17:00.22 | GeorgeIoak | I'm getting closer with my touch screen problem but I need some help. I've gathered some good logcat info at http://pastebin.com/a5rk9Hua which shows only the output from the TSCalibrationView.java program |
| 17:03.26 | GeorgeIoak | the author of the program has some pages on gitorous but that code is different, http://gitorious.org/0xdroid/packages_apps_tscalibration2/blobs/19a2a71e348d42381d9cb781a2dd9cf406e76ce1/src/org/zeroxlab/util/tscal/TSCalibration.java |
| 17:05.32 | GeorgeIoak | the TSCalibrationView.java program we have in the TV Box source is this, http://pastebin.com/at474FDD |
| 17:09.46 | GeorgeIoak | looks like the errors are coming from the judge_point_location function which uses P_Y_RIGHT_CORNER_MAX_LIMIT that is set at 120 earlier in the code for some reason but I'm not a programmer so I don't follow all of the logic in this program |
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| 17:40.36 | rellla | hi guys, need your help. my cubieboard stops booting here: http://pastebin.com/phYvV22B |
| 17:41.05 | rellla | anybody a quick link to a kernel+modules.tar.gz which is knownn to work? |
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| 17:54.33 | GeorgeIoak | rellla: is that your full log, it looks like the kernel is loading but i don't see an error. check the linux-sunxi.org site, some images have been loaded there recently |
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| 17:55.20 | Turl | rellla: hmm how recent is that? |
| 17:55.37 | rellla | GeorgeIoak: yeah. it stops exactly here. |
| 17:55.45 | Turl | I saw some hansg patches for timer stuff |
| 17:56.11 | Turl | if timer doesn't fire your system will 'stop' at times |
| 17:57.01 | rellla | Turl: it's from sunxi-3.0. I don't think that there have been commits since my last build |
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| 17:59.12 | mnemoc | rellla: there was a version jump last friday |
| 17:59.55 | mnemoc | if you built after it, please try the last sunxi-*-rN tag of the previous version |
| 18:00.56 | Turl | you can try triggering a random interrupt and see if it wakes |
| 18:01.39 | rellla | wait a minute, i'll quickly bake a new kernel with actual head |
| 18:04.06 | Turl | mnemoc: were the timer patches merged? |
| 18:05.02 | mnemoc | Turl: nothing from the stage got merged. but suggestions are welcomed |
| 18:05.58 | Turl | mnemoc: I don't see them on stage |
| 18:07.14 | mnemoc | as i can't test myself atm, I only merge to stage (and from stage to main) after been acked/tested by other devs |
| 18:07.36 | Turl | ah, found them on ML |
| 18:07.48 | Turl | nevermind my earlier comment rellla then :) |
| 18:07.49 | mnemoc | so if you see something in the ML that hasn't been merged to stage, review it, test it, and reply it acking |
| 18:08.19 | w00tc0d3 | grr |
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| 18:08.30 | w00tc0d3 | NodeDeploy is make me angry |
| 18:09.24 | w00tc0d3 | when I go Quassel, nodedeploy has a VERY HIGH ping |
| 18:09.29 | w00tc0d3 | 20 seconds |
| 18:09.36 | w00tc0d3 | -_______- |
| 18:11.09 | RITRedbeard_ | oh noes |
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| 18:15.14 | drachensun | is there a git with all these edid patches applied? |
| 18:15.22 | drachensun | I've got a device I think needs them |
| 18:15.48 | drachensun | but they have been coming in so fast I can't keep up |
| 18:23.07 | GeorgeIoak | i'm not having any luck modifying TSCalibrationView.java and getting positive results. perhaps someone knows where i might find a different calibration program that i could at least try. it can't be any worse than what i've got now |
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| 19:10.15 | rellla | Turl, mnemoc: everything is fine now. cubie boots with newest kernel and uboot. |
| 19:10.51 | rellla | the problem was, that i wanted to save some money with the power adapter :( |
| 19:12.03 | Turl | :P |
| 19:13.03 | rellla | cubie boots with a 5V/1A over USB/OTG and stops with a psp-adaptor 5V/2A via dc-port |
| 19:14.32 | rellla | wonders, if 1A is enough to power an additional ssd, ethernet, hdmi ... - otherwise rellla needs a good link to a suitable power adaptor ;) |
| 19:16.35 | mnemoc | iirc the otg can only take 0.5A |
| 19:17.02 | rellla | then it's to google |
| 19:17.44 | rellla | s/ to/ time to/ |
| 19:18.01 | Turl | SSDs don't have to spin a disk, the initial draw might be less than an HDD |
| 19:21.34 | rellla | someone did some tests here, what amount of power the cubie eats up. can't remember, who it was. but iirc you are far away from using the whole plugin-in-program with 0.5A |
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| 20:22.05 | vinifm | A13' spi is actually full duplex? |
| 21:15.15 | mdp | spi, by definition, is full duplex |
| 21:23.40 | vinifm | yes, but hardware need support it |
| 21:24.52 | armena | every SPI port I've ever seen has a MISO and a MOSI, and when you do a transfer, you send a byte and receive a byte at the same time |
| 21:25.29 | armena | the SPI slave device might only talk in one direction though |
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| 21:37.51 | vinifm | I have received: "cpu tx data time out!" |
| 21:49.24 | armena | vinifm, that doesn't sound like a duplex related thing. I'm not very familiar with the A13's SPI but maybe the SPI module isn't getting a clock? |
| 21:52.52 | vinifm | not |
| 21:53.41 | vinifm | aw_spi->hclk = clk_get(&pdev->dev, pdata->clk_name); |
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| 22:13.05 | armena | vinifm, maybe try increasing the poll timeout value on line 890 of driver/spi/sunxi_spi.c to see if that changes anything. |
| 22:13.22 | vinifm | yea |
| 22:13.50 | vinifm | i tried |
| 22:15.19 | armena | have you checked that a clock signal appears on the wire when an spi transfer is initiated? |
| 22:17.52 | vinifm | i could do that only in work, i am in home :) |
| 22:24.01 | armena | not to change the subject, but has anyone had any success getting a serial console on one of those A10S-based MK802 clones? |
| 22:25.39 | armena | mine has two pads that appear to be connected to PB19 and PB20 but no amount of hacking up u-boot's gpio_init() seems to result in anything on those pins |
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| 22:56.27 | bfree | anyone using an initramfs? with a cubie if that matters. trying to figure out how to call mkimage and what to do with boot.cmd to match |
| 23:02.32 | bfree | aha http://www.j1nx.nl/initramfs-support-for-the-allwinner-a10/ (it wasn't displaying here a few minutes ago) |
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| 23:20.48 | extrados1 | I'd like to move my debian install from an external sd card to the internal nand. However, when I use nand-part, it throws an error, "all partition tables are bad". fdisk, on the other hand, seems to read /dev/nand fine. Any advice on how to proceed? |
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