| 00:16.27 | nulluser | I found one sure fire way to fix the 8192cu module issues. http://www.junklet.net/image/xbot/DSCN5519.JPG http://www.junklet.net/image/xbot/DSCN5527.JPG |
| 00:20.28 | jelly-home | that's what I call a piggyback setup |
| 00:21.23 | jelly-home | hides |
| 00:21.27 | nulluser | haha |
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| 00:41.29 | Turl | nulluser: what is it? |
| 00:42.15 | nulluser | That's the Mini Xplus. I have a lot of trouble with the 8192cu wifi module and said to hell with it |
| 00:42.31 | nulluser | The module might be defective, or can't deal with the data rate that I need |
| 00:43.05 | Turl | again, what is it? :P |
| 00:43.54 | nulluser | The computer or the project? |
| 00:44.01 | Turl | the dlink thingy |
| 00:45.07 | nulluser | oh, that's a usb wifi dongle, the RT2800usb driver works with it |
| 00:45.17 | nulluser | that's to replace the one that comes with the computer |
| 00:45.41 | nulluser | I had no room inside the case, and did not have the right antenna connector anyway |
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| 10:45.39 | Maqs | andoma: are you making progress with the showtime a10 port? :-) |
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| 11:29.39 | ganbold | which gpio pin is enabling usb power? |
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| 12:12.40 | slapin | Marex: can you check if mail with ID 20121225171253.GA18649@build.ihdev.net arrived to u-boot list, I can't see if my current smtp setup works |
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| 13:06.50 | andoma | Maqs: yes, i plan to start using it myself quite soonish |
| 13:06.58 | andoma | my current HTPC broke down |
| 13:07.28 | andoma | but i've been away from home over xmas so i've mostly been hacking on other stuff |
| 13:07.48 | Maqs | sad to hear that your HTPC broke down, but nice work, thanks :-) |
| 13:08.28 | Maqs | i'd be glad to help you testing |
| 14:41.12 | slapin | hno: forgot to ask you when you will be available? |
| 14:52.31 | ganbold_ | can't find PH address and PH06 pin |
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| 14:59.05 | orly_owl | aliexpress not working for anyone else? |
| 14:59.27 | orly_owl | i get 404 when i search for anything |
| 14:59.58 | orly_owl | oh here it goes |
| 15:00.36 | merbanan | andoma: är du hemma ikväll vid 21 tiden ? |
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| 15:41.43 | Nicolas | Hi guys |
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| 16:41.39 | L84Supper | anyone know whatever happened to the Gooseberry boards? 500 sold out, now their store is down, no news in weeks.... |
| 16:42.05 | L84Supper | http://gooseberry.atspace.co.uk/ |
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| 16:49.03 | nulluser | Does anyone know off hand where the max cpu speed passed to cpufreq comes from? I have a board listing 600 mhz as the max speed, and I think it should be good to 1ghz or so |
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| 16:57.11 | nulluser | Also, is it possible to disable the mali completely? I have tried a few times to compile the kernel with it removed but it kept crashing on boot. |
| 17:05.00 | mnemoc | just disable CONFIG_MALI |
| 17:06.02 | nulluser | hmm. I wonder what's going on. If some other peripheral is relying on it getting initialized |
| 17:06.35 | nulluser | I tried enabling it and disabling it a few times and recompiling with that as the only change |
| 17:09.15 | nulluser | Weird, seems to work now. Gremlins |
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| 17:11.35 | mnemoc | assuming a sunxi kernel, after disabling mali you can disable the memory reserve of framebuffer too (making it dynamic) |
| 17:11.50 | mnemoc | that will get you a bunch of extra free memory |
| 17:12.19 | mnemoc | you'll still have fb, but not reserving a monster chunk of memory for it |
| 17:17.15 | nulluser | Can I just disabled it all completely? This thing is headless with a serial console. |
| 17:17.40 | nulluser | Everything is disabled under graphics, unless the fb setup is elsewehere |
| 17:18.22 | mnemoc | yes, just disable all the FB stuff, and video decoding, a g2d |
| 17:21.22 | nulluser | ok, thanks |
| 17:21.34 | mnemoc | CONFIG_VIDEO_DECODER_SUN4I for the VE, CONFIG_SUN4I_G2D for the 2d accelerator, CONFIG_SUNXI_MALI_RESERVED_MEM and CONFIG_FB_SUNXI_RESERVED_MEM |
| 17:22.01 | mnemoc | the last two are selected by others, but git grep will show you |
| 17:22.22 | mnemoc | those are the CONFIG_s that control the reserves |
| 17:23.00 | nulluser | Does disabling it in the .fex file have any effect? or other peripherals for that matter? |
| 17:23.37 | mnemoc | disabling in .fex will not affect the reserves |
| 17:23.46 | mnemoc | they happen before script.bin can be read |
| 17:24.40 | mnemoc | but disabling in .fex affects the _init() of the corresponding modules |
| 17:25.26 | nulluser | I don't know how clean the code is separated. They should just be #ifdefed out if the module is not included |
| 17:25.49 | nulluser | But I have a feeling there is some scary stuff in there the more I look at it |
| 17:25.52 | mnemoc | if you disable the module it doesn't matter if script.bin has it enabled |
| 17:25.58 | nulluser | yeah |
| 17:26.05 | mnemoc | allwinner code is scary ;-) |
| 17:26.26 | mnemoc | but my coworker's is worse |
| 17:26.32 | nulluser | heh |
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| 17:49.39 | WarheadsSE | lol^ been there |
| 17:52.18 | WarheadsSE | anyone seen the most recent hackaday pi post? |
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| 17:52.33 | WarheadsSE | really.. this made it as a "hack" of any kind? |
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| 17:57.38 | torpor | hiya |
| 17:57.49 | torpor | anyone in here got any lapdock / rpi / mk802 experience? |
| 17:58.02 | torpor | i need a little help getting my mk802 working with the lapdock. |
| 17:58.48 | nulluser | What's a lapdock? |
| 17:59.07 | torpor | http://images.search.conduit.com/search?q=motorola%20lapdock&ctid=CT2235824&searchsource=2 |
| 17:59.30 | torpor | end-of-lifed by motorola. new-life'd by mk802 users and raspberrypi users everywhere. |
| 17:59.41 | nulluser | interesting |
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| 18:00.15 | nulluser | Does it have an hdmi connection? |
| 18:00.33 | torpor | yes |
| 18:00.37 | nulluser | Ohh, I got ya |
| 18:00.37 | torpor | and usb |
| 18:00.49 | torpor | its a keyboard/mouse/monitor only |
| 18:00.51 | torpor | no cpu |
| 18:00.56 | nulluser | Looked like a usb charger, sync tool, like a pda cradle |
| 18:01.15 | nulluser | I didn't realize the entire laptop was the device ;) |
| 18:01.40 | torpor | yeah you just add cpu |
| 18:01.50 | jas-hacks | hno : my compiled uboot is always trying to find evb.bin. I've created a boot.scr but that seems to make no difference. Any ideas why? |
| 18:01.59 | nulluser | I know the MK802 has trouble syncing with some displays. There are some alternate .bin files to deal with it |
| 18:03.32 | torpor | its not about the display but rather the usb device setup |
| 18:03.49 | torpor | i'm trying to figure out how to wire up a USB-A to USB-A (male-to-male) adapter for it, but i don't know the wire outs.. |
| 18:04.09 | torpor | anyone know how to hack up such a cable - do i need to cross some wires, or is it just a straight pass-through? |
| 18:05.41 | nulluser | should be straight, buy you are not hurting anything by having D+ and D- swapped |
| 18:05.45 | nulluser | it just won't work |
| 18:06.08 | torpor | ok |
| 18:06.16 | torpor | i'll do it and see if it works. i guess i can't lose. |
| 18:06.19 | mnemoc | jas-hacks: that comes from your dirty env |
| 18:06.37 | mnemoc | jas-hacks: dd if=/dev/zero .... to clear it |
| 18:21.49 | hno | jas-hacks, you probably have a saved environment. |
| 18:23.09 | jas-hacks | hno : so where does it pick up the saved enivronment from? |
| 18:24.37 | hno | jas-hacks, from sd or nand depending on which u-boot you are using. |
| 18:25.11 | hno | on nand it's the env partition. On sd see our u-boot github wiki page. |
| 18:27.33 | jas-hacks | hno: ok, must on sd because another sd card boots fine with uboot. |
| 18:36.10 | mnemoc | dd if=/dev/zero of=${card} bs=1024 seek=544 count=128 should do the trick |
| 18:37.55 | nulluser | Is there a guide to transfer an SD image to flash to eliminate the SD card? |
| 18:38.26 | mnemoc | hno: hi, about the A10/PIO raw table in the wiki. can I split it an wikify it or you want to keep a raw one? |
| 18:43.25 | hno | mnemoc, it's there as a reference only. Notr meant to stay for long. |
| 18:43.56 | mnemoc | hno: cool :) |
| 18:44.41 | hno | nulluser, it's nothing written up on it yet I think. Most people use livesuit for flashing. |
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| 18:45.20 | techn_ | nulluser: You have serial ? |
| 18:45.40 | hno | but we do have a tool to manage partition tables. |
| 18:46.04 | hno | and from there it's technically not a complicated process. |
| 18:46.07 | techn_ | mnemoc: did you notice this link |
| 18:46.22 | techn_ | https://github.com/Ithamar/awutils |
| 18:46.57 | mnemoc | nice |
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| 18:48.05 | nulluser | Yes, I have serial |
| 18:49.03 | techn_ | one moment.. I'll update sunxi-bsp |
| 18:51.47 | mnemoc | techn_: if it works, much better than using allwinner-tools |
| 18:52.14 | mnemoc | techn_: ask him if he wanna join ;-) |
| 18:52.19 | hno | techn_, oh, he pushed his work so far. It's far from complete but a good start. |
| 18:52.54 | nulluser | I have a shell on the console, should be able to mount the flash and just copy |
| 18:52.55 | techn_ | mnemoc: hno: atleast that repo has best image unpacking tools |
| 18:53.10 | nulluser | more worried about it booting properly |
| 18:53.21 | techn_ | they work with a13 images also.. and no viruses :/ |
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| 19:02.43 | mnemoc | techn_: invite him to join ;-) |
| 19:05.27 | techn_ | nulluser: now there should be tool to create ext4 format rootfs file, which can be used with mk_livesuit.sh. |
| 19:06.51 | techn_ | but its not ready yet.. |
| 19:07.01 | nulluser | Is there anything weird going on, like a compressed image or something? |
| 19:07.29 | mnemoc | livesuit images are weird |
| 19:07.33 | techn_ | and it needs to debugged why it wont load rootfs |
| 19:07.55 | techn_ | but I gotta go now |
| 19:08.44 | slapin | techn_: use genext2fs and pretend it is ext4? |
| 19:13.41 | torpor | woohoo i got it working! |
| 19:13.51 | torpor | lapdock + mk802 == nice ARM netbook! :) |
| 19:13.56 | slapin | hno: it seems we can update mtd ourselves, and I half-made it compile, so I hope can submit mtd patches next week. |
| 19:13.59 | torpor | sure beats the freakin' touchbook junk |
| 19:14.33 | slapin | torpor: where do you all get that lapdock? |
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| 19:14.43 | torpor | ebay |
| 19:14.54 | torpor | now to install ubuntu .. |
| 19:15.10 | mnemoc | they aren't as cheap as "advertised", but still a decent deal |
| 19:15.23 | torpor | i got mine for 40euros |
| 19:15.44 | nulluser | I saw one for $80 or so, pretty good deal |
| 19:16.18 | nulluser | Aesthetically I don't like how the device sticks out the back |
| 19:16.38 | mnemoc | cheap ones are in US. but usually with awful shipping fees to EU |
| 19:24.10 | lkcl_ | torpor: can you please provide a link (or a model number) |
| 19:25.23 | torpor | lkcl_, you want a link to buy one or just to see what it is? |
| 19:25.40 | mnemoc | buy |
| 19:25.47 | mnemoc | 40E is amazing :) |
| 19:25.54 | torpor | nulluser, yeah its something that needs to be worked on. i just finished making a cable for mine .. next week i'll 3d print an adapter for it so that the mk802 just slides in nice and neat. |
| 19:26.34 | torpor | http://www.ebay.at/itm/Motorola-Lapdock-11-6-fur-ATRIX-QWERTZ-Tastatur-Lautsprecher-Akku-Dock-Station-/200859522650?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Ladeger%C3%A4te_Dockingstationen&hash=item2ec429165a#ht_1097wt_1045 |
| 19:26.40 | torpor | its 80euro's now. ;P |
| 19:27.08 | mnemoc | +20 for shipping :p |
| 19:27.18 | torpor | thats pretty whack |
| 19:27.21 | torpor | i guess i got lucky |
| 19:28.08 | mnemoc | 100E would be fair if you wouldn't need such a mess of cables and adapters to use it on anything but the atrix |
| 19:28.37 | torpor | well its only about 10eu worth of cables |
| 19:28.58 | torpor | i guess it'll be a sexier device when the 3d-printed custom adapter is finished. |
| 19:29.47 | nulluser | http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Motorola-Droid-Bionic-Lapdock-11-6-Browser-Keyboard-Charger-/370721823630?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5650be1b8e |
| 19:30.06 | nulluser | Order it with free shipping and hope they don't notice the location ;) |
| 19:30.59 | nulluser | I can buy them and ship back out if someone really wants one |
| 19:31.05 | nulluser | Not sure what shipping costs |
| 19:31.21 | mnemoc | techn_: the cable mess ruins usability. not only their cost |
| 19:31.45 | mnemoc | nulluser: ships only to US |
| 19:31.48 | torpor | thingiverse.com will soon have a solution, don't wory! |
| 19:32.02 | mnemoc | torpor: :) |
| 19:33.03 | torpor | http://nurdspace.nl/RasPi_Lapdock_Laptop |
| 19:33.23 | nulluser | hah, don't try to go through an airport ;) |
| 19:35.04 | torpor | well it will be difficult if they ask me to turn it on .. ;) |
| 19:36.32 | ZaEarl | it took me about an hour to go through security last time. laptops, tablets, cables, console, controllers, etc. |
| 19:37.02 | mnemoc | I had troubles in .fr with a chinese tablet because the battery was taped ... "suspiciously" |
| 19:37.55 | penguin42 | haha |
| 19:38.14 | penguin42 | heck you worry just how many really dangerous things these guys miss because they worry about stuff like that |
| 19:41.15 | mnemoc | from eu airports I hate frenchs the most |
| 19:43.29 | penguin42 | sees picture of MK808B - Rockchip based - it has a nice little grill on it |
| 19:46.52 | torpor | bbiab |
| 19:49.55 | nulluser | Any tips to prolong the life of the SD card with a rootfs? I have had a couple do bad |
| 19:50.45 | penguin42 | nulluser: 1) Buy good SD cards, 2) Don't use them for rootfs - it'll always suck |
| 19:52.04 | nulluser | hmm. |
| 19:52.35 | rm | find any guide to optimizing a GNU/Linux system for an SSD |
| 19:52.43 | rm | there are dozens of those |
| 19:52.51 | rm | boils down to reducing writes |
| 19:52.59 | jelly-home | "boot off them but don't write there?" |
| 19:53.11 | nulluser | well, I keep testing kernels |
| 19:53.34 | nulluser | about 60 or 80 in, I'm getting some weird stuff happening |
| 19:53.50 | penguin42 | nulluser: That's the least of the problem; things like high bandwidth log writes, and/or swapping to it really do them in |
| 19:53.58 | nulluser | shouldn't fail that fast, but I'm pretty sure the SD cards are messed p |
| 19:54.20 | mnemoc | nulluser: for testing kernels you can use u-boot's tftp, and avoid writting and rewritting the uImage |
| 19:54.39 | nulluser | what about the modues? |
| 19:54.42 | nulluser | *modules |
| 19:55.01 | mnemoc | nfs? :) |
| 19:56.26 | penguin42 | nulluser: yeh NFS, and you can also load the initramfs via tftp |
| 19:57.07 | penguin42 | any one know what an mk809 is apposed to an mk808b and how hackable the 809 is? |
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| 20:00.12 | torpor | re |
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| 20:53.04 | rm | http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/12/27/1521219/raspberry-pi-vs-cheap-android-dongle-embarrassment-of-cheap-riches |
| 20:53.10 | rm | oh this made slashdot |
| 20:53.23 | rm | good to have some mk802 publicity |
| 20:53.45 | rm | bring it into the brainwashed by the RASPBERRY PI masses |
| 20:55.45 | Maqs | lol |
| 20:57.08 | penguin42 | just ordered an 809 |
| 20:58.25 | penguin42 | was 39GBP+4.50 shipping from an amazon uk vendor |
| 20:58.49 | mnemoc | but shipped from hk anyway :p |
| 20:59.04 | penguin42 | yeh probably |
| 20:59.36 | penguin42 | still easier for me to get it via amazon uk |
| 21:05.55 | rm | RK3066 sucks |
| 21:06.13 | rm | "ubuntu barely works and you need to use hideous hacks to even boot it" |
| 21:06.27 | hansg | rm, why ? I'm focussing on getting Linux running nice on the RK3066 now, but RK3066 looks nice too |
| 21:06.29 | rm | vs "a number of distros simply boot from an SD card" with the A10 |
| 21:06.45 | rm | more power to you then |
| 21:06.51 | hansg | rm, never mind you've already answered my question |
| 21:06.52 | hansg | :) |
| 21:07.22 | hansg | Gah, typing == difficult, I meant: "I'm focussing on getting Linux running nice on the *A10* now, but RK3066 looks nice too" |
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| 21:10.47 | rm | ah |
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| 21:10.54 | rm | well, it looks nice on paper |
| 21:11.10 | Skaag | looks like my A13 does not reboot properly if I run "reboot" from the shell. is this a known issue? |
| 21:11.17 | rm | "man, it's dual-core, that must be cool!" |
| 21:11.27 | Skaag | oh wait, it does, just takes 2 very long minutes… |
| 21:11.42 | jas-hacks | What frame rate should you be getting in glxgears with mali drivers? |
| 21:11.54 | mnemoc | Skaag: using a recent u-boot-sunxi ? |
| 21:12.00 | Skaag | yes |
| 21:12.04 | penguin42 | rm: Well, it's dual core and A9, and that is for most things significantly faster than a single A8 |
| 21:12.06 | Skaag | compiled last week |
| 21:12.10 | rm | Skaag, fwiw my MK802 didn't reboot properly with any powered USB devices connected; but then eventually this problem just went away; I relate that to newer kernel releases |
| 21:12.38 | Skaag | I see |
| 21:13.07 | rm | penguin42, so |
| 21:13.14 | rm | imagine you got one |
| 21:13.20 | rm | how do you go about running Debian with X11 on it |
| 21:13.21 | Skaag | ok no, it didn't boot |
| 21:13.24 | penguin42 | which I hopefully will in a couple of weeks |
| 21:14.09 | penguin42 | rm: Good question, don't honestly know yet; there seem to be people who've rooted them, and I'm assuming there is a way to get to a boot loader, and the kernel source is apparently released |
| 21:14.33 | rm | seem to be! assuming! apparently released! |
| 21:14.37 | rm | have fun~ |
| 21:14.50 | rm | I'll just stick an SD card into my A10 |
| 21:14.51 | rm | :D |
| 21:15.08 | penguin42 | https://github.com/AndrewDB/rk3066-kernel looks promising |
| 21:19.23 | jelly-home | too bad j1nx attempt at crowdfunding release of amlogic source didn't work out |
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| 22:33.31 | Turl| | hi all |
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| 22:35.09 | Skaag | what's a simple way to throw an image onto the frame buffer device? |
| 22:37.13 | nulluser | in C? |
| 22:37.52 | hansg | Oh yeah, after poking hdmi transmitter registers the entire day I've *finally* found the bit to enable double clock pll usage in the A10's hdmi transmitter. So now I've it doing 1920x1200 on my 24 inch :) |
| 22:37.56 | Skaag | in any way really |
| 22:38.15 | nulluser | in C you just open the /dev/fb device and write to it |
| 22:38.27 | mnemoc | hansg: awesome! |
| 22:38.32 | Triffid_Hunter | hansg: nice |
| 22:38.35 | nulluser | If you had a raw image in the correct format, you could just cat it to /dev/fb |
| 22:38.45 | Skaag | nulluser: I tried to use fbi to display something but it won't budge |
| 22:38.48 | Turl | http://www.kraxel.org/blog/linux/fbida/ might help |
| 22:38.52 | Turl | hansg: awesome :) |
| 22:39.05 | Skaag | Turl: yes, fbi is from fbida |
| 22:39.09 | Skaag | that's what I tried |
| 22:39.14 | nulluser | Do you have a reference linux install you can test on, like your main pc |
| 22:39.33 | Skaag | I pass -d /dev/fb0 but it gives me ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Invalid argument (not a linux console?) |
| 22:39.36 | nulluser | Make sure whatever you do works on a host first |
| 22:39.54 | nulluser | so you can isolate a command problem, or a problem with the framebuffer device |
| 22:40.22 | Turl | Skaag: I'm guessing you have disp, lcd and hdmi modules loaded right? |
| 22:41.02 | Skaag | I'm using the LCD right now |
| 22:41.06 | Skaag | I'm not on VGA |
| 22:41.23 | Skaag | I have mali, disp_ump and ump modules loaded |
| 22:41.51 | hansg | And now I'm toast, although I'm quite happy with the result, poking registers an entire day long sort of wears one out. See you all later. |
| 22:42.06 | Skaag | hansg: I agree with you 100% |
| 22:42.16 | Skaag | hansg: It's more exhausting than people might think... |
| 22:42.30 | hansg | yep |
| 22:42.31 | Turl | poking clocks is worse |
| 22:42.44 | Turl | because when you poke them wrong you need to reboot the board :) |
| 22:43.00 | Turl | Skaag: did you configure script.bin adequately? |
| 22:43.20 | Skaag | X, GDM, etc, they all work fine... |
| 22:43.32 | Skaag | I'm just trying to show a splash image before they load while the system is booting :-) |
| 22:44.00 | Skaag | (because it takes some 10 ~ 15 seconds, and the user doesn't know what's going on) |
| 22:44.09 | Turl | so if you stop X and gdm and run fbi it doesn't work? |
| 22:44.20 | Skaag | exactly |
| 22:44.40 | Skaag | I tried just doing cat /dev/random > /dev/fb0 but nothing happens |
| 22:45.07 | Turl | you need to send an ioctl I think |
| 22:45.57 | Skaag | oh well this is not that important to be honest |
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| 22:47.17 | Turl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.28 | Turl | try with urandom or zero |
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| 22:51.02 | Skaag | yes |
| 22:51.05 | Skaag | with /dev/urandom writing to /dev/fb0 produces results |
| 22:51.18 | Skaag | now my screen is full of garbage, tasty colorful garbage |
| 22:51.21 | Skaag | I like it |
| 22:52.06 | Skaag | I also like how it returns an error of No space left on device when the buffer is full :) |
| 22:52.24 | Turl | you can try making a raw format image on your favorite image editor and cat that |
| 22:53.23 | nulluser | cool, what was wrong? |
| 22:53.30 | Skaag | ah, managed to fix it with fbi |
| 22:53.33 | Skaag | I was missing -T 1 |
| 22:54.01 | Skaag | so: fbi -d /dev/fb0 -T 1 MoneyBaboon.png |
| 22:54.40 | Skaag | found it on google… the man page doesn't mention -T |
| 22:55.06 | Skaag | imagine that, an incomplete, inaccurate man page |
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