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| 00:19.24 | hno | we really should get spl data for the suypported boards. |
| 00:19.40 | hno | s/suy/su/ |
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| 00:23.49 | ManoftheSea | hno what? What is spl? |
| 00:24.25 | lundman | solaris porting layer |
| 00:24.32 | lundman | but then I'm working with zfs right now :) |
| 00:24.42 | ManoftheSea | that sounds... incorrect |
| 00:25.08 | lundman | spl is the thing with uboot and early code |
| 00:25.30 | mnemoc | stands for Second Program Loader |
| 00:25.45 | mnemoc | does dram and pmu initialization |
| 00:25.59 | mnemoc | and then jumps to the fat u-boot |
| 00:26.36 | mnemoc | going to sleep now. good night |
| 00:26.41 | lundman | tata |
| 00:27.03 | ManoftheSea | thanks mnemoc, night |
| 00:32.26 | hno | ok, mail sent to arm-netbook. |
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| 00:46.32 | Turl | didn't get any email |
| 00:48.24 | Turl | there it is :) |
| 00:49.39 | lundman | dont read it, he7s just calling you names! |
| 01:06.33 | CaCtus491 | so, what's this talk about a 3G option for the EOMA-68 cards? :) |
| 01:09.13 | ManoftheSea | CaCtus491: not really sure. You're not gonna put an antenna inside the metal sheath. |
| 01:09.21 | ManoftheSea | Also, antenna design is hard. |
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| 06:41.14 | lundman | hey neat, so you can compile zfs into the kernel very easy |
| 06:50.42 | Turl | ZFS ALL THE THINGS! |
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| 06:53.19 | lundman | +1 |
| 06:54.09 | lundman | zfs create -V 1G -o compression=on -o dedup=on pool/swap :) |
| 06:54.31 | Turl | swap dedupe? o.O |
| 06:54.57 | lundman | you know you'll be the cool kid! |
| 06:55.24 | Turl | lundman: how stable is that thing for everyday usage? |
| 06:55.34 | Turl | with IO heavy loads? |
| 06:55.38 | lundman | I fixed the ARM port 2 days ago |
| 06:55.50 | lundman | so, since then I've compiled the kernel 9 times :) |
| 06:55.58 | Turl | amd64, nothing too fancy |
| 06:56.02 | lundman | so, about '9 time kernel compile' stable |
| 06:56.13 | lundman | if you are talking the 64bit? yeah its stable |
| 06:56.24 | lundman | most of my colleagues have changed home NAS to use ZOL |
| 06:57.00 | lundman | largest computer in the world run ZOL, of course, they ported zfs because ext4 can't go that large:) |
| 06:57.11 | Turl | lundman: my 'unit of load' is equivalent to ~30 kernel recompilations though :) |
| 06:57.40 | lundman | yeah on intel 64, i wouldnt hesitate to use it |
| 06:57.51 | lundman | on ARM, I only just got it running smooth |
| 06:58.11 | lundman | actually, a lot of distros have it now, you can apt-get |
| 06:58.38 | Turl | is it a FUSE fs or "native"? |
| 06:59.08 | lundman | native |
| 06:59.17 | lundman | http://zfsonlinux.org/ |
| 06:59.36 | lundman | they made SPL (solaris porting layer) first, then the zfs are the same as Suns |
| 06:59.37 | jelly-home | it'd have to be distributed as source, built by dkms on similar on the fly |
| 06:59.37 | Turl | might need to move my OS to it when I move disks then |
| 06:59.40 | lundman | really really good way to do it |
| 06:59.43 | Turl | shouldn't be too far in the future |
| 06:59.50 | lundman | jelly: nah |
| 07:00.27 | jelly-home | lundman: which distro has the opinion that licensing is not an issue? |
| 07:00.39 | Turl | The result of this will be two source rpm packages... Yes, source rpm packages. Currently, deb style packages are built by first creating rpm packages and then converting them to deb packages using alien. |
| 07:00.41 | Turl | bwahaha |
| 07:00.46 | Turl | seriously? :| |
| 07:00.50 | lundman | you can't ship the kernel with it, true. but as extra module? none of them have issues |
| 07:01.04 | Turl | licensing issue? what's it? |
| 07:01.12 | lundman | CDDL vs GNU |
| 07:01.23 | Turl | CCwhat? |
| 07:01.28 | lundman | i love how many people go "oh zfs, licensing issues" and then run binary puke from nvidia |
| 07:01.31 | lundman | sighs |
| 07:01.46 | Turl | I don't :P all my stuff is intel |
| 07:01.53 | jelly-home | run is less important than distribute |
| 07:02.07 | jelly-home | lundman: and nvidia explicitely allows redistribution |
| 07:02.37 | lundman | aaanyhoo, its there, its native, it runs very well, and debian ubuntu etc has it in repo |
| 07:02.47 | jelly-home | lundman: debian does not |
| 07:02.55 | jelly-home | just looked |
| 07:03.08 | lundman | brian mentioned it in the zfsday speech |
| 07:03.23 | lundman | ah, ok debian users just need to point the repo to them and say install |
| 07:03.25 | lundman | ok, not quite the same |
| 07:03.32 | lundman | but just as easy |
| 07:04.28 | Turl | lundman: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?item=linux_kqzfs_benchmarks&num=4&page=article slow? :P |
| 07:04.47 | lundman | 2010? |
| 07:04.51 | jelly-home | phoronix? |
| 07:04.53 | lundman | it wasnt even out in 2010? |
| 07:05.11 | lundman | also, that is fuse version |
| 07:05.12 | Turl | yeah, phoronix :P doesn't mean much really |
| 07:05.14 | lundman | of course that is slow |
| 07:05.24 | Turl | lundman: nah, it's the native one |
| 07:05.31 | Turl | lundman: fuse one is benchmarked too and obviously slow |
| 07:05.41 | Turl | 20 vs 100MB/s |
| 07:06.31 | lundman | odd, the posix layer was ported to zfs in feb 2011 |
| 07:07.07 | jelly-home | Turl: kq zfs was a different kernel port |
| 07:07.08 | lundman | but either way, it wouldnt surprise me if it is still slower than ext4. only just been ported, tweaking is next |
| 07:08.25 | lundman | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_zfs_june2012&num=1 |
| 07:08.28 | lundman | maybe that one> |
| 07:09.42 | Turl | maybe I'll install Debian GNU/kFreeBSD |
| 07:10.53 | lundman | anyway, I'm still aiming for my target of Android on mele running on ZFS :) |
| 07:10.59 | lundman | be nice if it was JB |
| 07:22.41 | Turl | lundman: so much hype but it doesn't even build :x http://paste.debian.net/199363/ |
| 07:24.27 | lundman | hah sucks to be you ;) |
| 07:24.45 | lundman | although, who turned on Werror |
| 07:25.56 | Turl | lundman: apparently it broke on .39 |
| 07:26.02 | Turl | still unfixed |
| 07:26.03 | Turl | https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/issues/187 |
| 07:26.31 | lundman | whats .39? |
| 07:27.35 | Turl | 2.6.39 |
| 07:27.37 | lundman | you run 3.6.1 |
| 07:27.50 | Turl | the build error happened first on .39 |
| 07:29.23 | lundman | never tried with package system, I get kernel sources to build my kernel, then download and build spl/zfs myself |
| 07:29.29 | lundman | actually from github, since I do patches |
| 07:30.06 | lundman | I have 3.4.6 3.0.36 2.6.32.9 kernels |
| 07:31.20 | lundman | did i write down how to replace the kernel for mele android |
| 07:32.22 | lundman | I did, woo, current lundman thanks past lundman |
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| 08:49.27 | oliv3r | feck; i think i broke my new toy :( |
| 08:49.58 | lundman | dang, kernel dont build due to sun4i-hdmiaudio.c |
| 08:50.27 | oliv3r | I installed the wrong touchscreen driver (i think) and adb hasn't started yet. so it boots fine, i just can't use the touch screen. Also means i cannot reboot into CWM! bah |
| 08:50.41 | oliv3r | guess i'll have to make an CWM/u-boot enabled uSD card I guess |
| 09:03.23 | oliv3r | shutdown by keeping power button pressed for ~10 seconds still works at least |
| 09:27.06 | rellla | morning |
| 09:29.48 | oliv3r | luckly, yarvik offers livesuit images so i flashed that back; lets try that again :( |
| 09:29.51 | rellla | anybody interested in a ready to use armel rootfs.tar.bz2 debian/unstable with the prerequisites to do native compiling, xbmca10 dev-files and ready compiled xbmc? |
| 09:30.15 | oliv3r | sounds cool enough :) |
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| 09:30.48 | rellla | which i have done for my mele a2000 |
| 09:32.02 | rm | Y U NO ARMHF |
| 09:34.25 | rellla | no armhf cedar-libs?! |
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| 11:40.14 | rm | https://olimex.wordpress.com/2012/10/12/building-bootable-sd-card-with-debian-linux-image-for-a13-olinuxino/ |
| 11:40.16 | rm | clueless |
| 11:40.54 | rm | and they use that totally awesome uboot-allwinner, which hno loves :) |
| 11:41.25 | rm | but what irked me most is using "apt-get install gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabi" without any mention that this is only on Ubuntu |
| 11:46.46 | ZaEarl | What an awesome day. The new Allwinner chip is coming soon! |
| 11:47.07 | mnemoc | ZaEarl: reference? |
| 11:47.17 | ZaEarl | several factories |
| 11:47.39 | mnemoc | nothing url-able? |
| 11:47.46 | ZaEarl | not yet |
| 11:48.31 | lundman | any kind of details? model? name? cores? |
| 11:48.38 | mnemoc | sun6i :p |
| 11:48.45 | ZaEarl | very few details, but it sounds like it will put Allwinner back on top. |
| 11:49.05 | ZaEarl | 4 cpu/8 gpu |
| 11:49.18 | mnemoc | the previous rumor I saw pointed to a quad core cortex-a7 |
| 11:49.22 | lundman | that would be enough for mediaplayer |
| 11:49.39 | ZaEarl | yes quad a7 |
| 11:50.02 | mnemoc | still mali? |
| 11:50.15 | ZaEarl | didnt see |
| 11:50.24 | mnemoc | it would suck if they switch |
| 11:50.30 | ZaEarl | is there an 8 core mali? |
| 11:50.36 | lundman | it would suck if they stayed :) |
| 11:51.25 | mnemoc | mali is currently the less closed GPU |
| 11:51.43 | mnemoc | iirc in the mali600 family there are such beasts |
| 11:53.08 | mnemoc | also there was a sightly related post in arm's blog about their collaboration while the mali600s were been announced |
| 11:53.23 | mnemoc | not explicit connection but the same week |
| 11:53.51 | lundman | Mali™-T658 |
| 11:54.02 | lundman | 1-8 cores |
| 11:54.10 | ZaEarl | or t628 http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-t628.php |
| 11:54.40 | lundman | yep, we'll wait for more info from you :) |
| 11:54.46 | mnemoc | if they pick cortex-a7 they'll also go for a more mobile/less power consumption gpu |
| 11:55.20 | lundman | I'm hoping for JB so we can get real audio |
| 11:55.27 | lundman | otherwise its not a mediaplayer :) |
| 11:55.40 | ZaEarl | they said eta end of the month, but that's probably optimistic. |
| 11:55.41 | mnemoc | tried Turl's CM10? |
| 11:55.51 | lundman | have not, he's not sharing |
| 11:56.27 | mnemoc | not sharing? https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team |
| 11:56.43 | lundman | yeah . he didnt come to my door with a silver platter |
| 11:57.03 | lundman | only sources, no binaries? |
| 11:57.24 | mnemoc | *cough* |
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| 11:59.23 | ZaEarl | they'll definitely come with JB |
| 11:59.50 | lundman | maybe it'll have a slightly better nic too |
| 12:00.23 | ozone | I wrote Allwinner to know about progress on VPU / CedarX |
| 12:00.32 | ozone | their answers : |
| 12:00.34 | ozone | We are communicating and supporting gimli who is one of the major contributor to xbmc all winner A10 project. |
| 12:00.36 | mnemoc | until tom left AW I hoped I would be able to buy a sun6i devkit eventually :< |
| 12:00.49 | ozone | It takes a little bit more time than expected. We are not familiar with xbmc and the community is not familiar with our chipset. Please kindly wait and you shall be satisfied one day. Sorry for keeping the community wait. |
| 12:00.58 | mnemoc | a major contributor who doesn't care to share |
| 12:01.05 | mnemoc | or work in public |
| 12:01.19 | ozone | and why cedarX is so closed : |
| 12:01.29 | ozone | Cedarx is one of the most outstanding self-developed technology of Allwinner and we prefer to open it in lib but not source code due to commercial reason. |
| 12:01.33 | mnemoc | i understand AW, I don't understnad gimli |
| 12:01.44 | mnemoc | </rant> |
| 12:01.53 | ozone | so wait and (hope) see ! |
| 12:02.05 | ozone | ciao |
| 12:02.12 | mnemoc | f* it. I prefer to wait for empat0 |
| 12:03.31 | lundman | :) |
| 12:16.09 | oliv3r | pride? |
| 12:18.50 | mnemoc | so you can't have "pride" working on public, sharing and allowing others to participate? |
| 12:19.35 | mnemoc | i suppose there are two meanings for that word |
| 12:19.45 | specing | tom left AW? |
| 12:19.53 | specing | When? |
| 12:20.01 | mnemoc | like a month ago |
| 12:20.06 | specing | really? |
| 12:20.13 | mnemoc | he posted it on the u-boot list |
| 12:20.26 | mnemoc | so i assume it true |
| 12:20.41 | oliv3r | pride in the negative sense :p |
| 12:20.48 | mnemoc | oliv3r: :) |
| 12:20.49 | oliv3r | wanting to claim victory all by yourself |
| 12:21.11 | oliv3r | stupid device keeps refusing to boot into recovery mode :S |
| 12:21.53 | mnemoc | yes, that seems to be. but it's a very anti free software way of doing free software |
| 12:25.41 | mnemoc | ZaEarl: it seems charbax is also in .hk |
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| 12:28.14 | oliv3r | yeah, it kinda really sucks. maybe he had to sign an nda and keep quiet :) |
| 12:28.46 | hno | specing, yes Tom left Allwinner, to build family at another more family friendly location. |
| 12:28.55 | oliv3r | rebooting the A10 using button+power, is that an android thing or an A10 thing |
| 12:28.56 | specing | Which is? |
| 12:29.05 | oliv3r | 'build' family |
| 12:30.07 | lundman | apm tells kernel to reboot |
| 12:30.30 | oliv3r | s/rebooting/booting/g |
| 12:30.31 | mnemoc | oliv3r: he is expecting an baby for next month |
| 12:30.38 | mnemoc | s/an/a/ |
| 12:30.59 | oliv3r | oh, that is amazing, but I guess the 'building' part is almost done then |
| 12:31.10 | mnemoc | the second would cost 100k rmb so unlike to build it farther :p |
| 12:31.22 | mnemoc | unlikely* |
| 12:32.01 | oliv3r | ffs, stupid device won't boot into CWM :S |
| 12:32.36 | mnemoc | be sure to use the right u-boot/spl and right script.bin |
| 12:33.09 | oliv3r | i flashed a recovery.img into nang. the thing is, sometimes it appears to work, sometimes not |
| 12:33.10 | ZaEarl | booting to recovery is dependant on the right script.bin |
| 12:33.16 | oliv3r | it just refuses to boot CWM and boots normally |
| 12:33.34 | oliv3r | but then other times, it just boots fine |
| 12:33.38 | oliv3r | (into CWM)* |
| 12:34.57 | hno | oliv3r, the "button at boot for recovery" is Allwinner u-boot. |
| 12:35.00 | ZaEarl | I'd say make sure no cables/charger are attached |
| 12:35.41 | oliv3r | now that is a golden tip |
| 12:35.57 | oliv3r | i think that may be it |
| 12:36.11 | oliv3r | but, adb reboot recovery fails the same way (but has worked fine earlier today) |
| 12:36.22 | hno | actually there is something in allwinner boot1 as well, but only used for older android. |
| 12:36.46 | oliv3r | zaearl you are my hero :p |
| 12:37.49 | ZaEarl | yw |
| 12:38.02 | oliv3r | i do press volume+ and - cause i dont' know which one it is :p its supposed to be volume-; but they swapped volume keys. when I use the original stock firmware 4.0.3, vol- is vol-, but in 4.0.4 it is swapped. (they supply livesuit images as 'updates'); |
| 12:39.56 | ZaEarl | find the script.bin you like, and keep it around for when the new livesuit image has a bad one. |
| 12:41.01 | ZaEarl | whoever builds those script.bins is pretty sloppy. |
| 12:42.41 | oliv3r | i'm not that far into a10 hacking yet |
| 12:42.54 | oliv3r | ideally, i should make my own! :p |
| 12:43.30 | ZaEarl | easy to do |
| 12:44.16 | oliv3r | what's the big difference between script.bin and script0.bin? |
| 12:44.32 | mnemoc | one is the backup of the other |
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| 12:45.14 | oliv3r | so identical |
| 12:45.21 | mnemoc | yes |
| 12:45.39 | mnemoc | but you can turn them into .fex and compare |
| 12:45.56 | mnemoc | sha1sum should be the same anyway |
| 12:46.00 | oliv3r | i need to setup my dev evniroment for sunxi yet :) |
| 12:46.21 | oliv3r | but keys + power over usb is the combo that makes it fail :) |
| 12:46.31 | oliv3r | could that cause flash troubles/failures? |
| 12:46.53 | oliv3r | i installed CM10 rom on it, and while i could log in via adb shell, the bootscreen kept running and that's it |
| 12:47.39 | lundman | heh wrote my new kernel to nandc, but uhm,. mele is at work |
| 12:47.46 | lundman | so Iguess I'll try it onmonday |
| 12:51.44 | oliv3r | can't wait to setup my own build env and build my own software for this crapblet |
| 12:51.54 | oliv3r | just no time now to learn all that too :p |
| 12:52.21 | lundman | although... it skips SD boot every second boot |
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| 12:54.16 | mnemoc | lundman: with the latest uboot i don't have that problem |
| 12:54.33 | lundman | damnit, its not doing it |
| 12:54.35 | mnemoc | but mmc's spl dies detecting the mmc :< |
| 12:56.14 | lundman | bah monday it is |
| 12:56.26 | lundman | shame uboot dont have chainloader |
| 12:58.15 | mnemoc | should be brave and start learning to use jtag |
| 13:03.46 | zub | btw. anybody here played with kgbd? I'm about to give it a try... |
| 13:04.14 | zub | so far tried on qemu :) but I still don't know how to multiplex console and kgdb on single serial line... but I read it should be possible |
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| 13:14.45 | oliv3r | stupid tablet cost me all day (and will more) so haven't done anything on the wiki ;( |
| 13:14.50 | oliv3r | anyway, gotta reboot my vm :) bbl |
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| 13:23.31 | Yakuzzi | does anyone use bluetooth on his mele through a dongle ? |
| 13:28.19 | oliv3r | what does/could a reset button do on my tablet? reset the CPU entirely? and where does the 'battery charging' animation come from? when the tablet is so called powered off? |
| 13:28.32 | ZaEarl | mnemoc, ah, yes, charbax is at the other show. Maybe I'll head over there tomorrow. |
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| 14:07.03 | oliv3r | crapalicious :S i broke it for real now :S |
| 14:08.12 | rz2k | oliv3r: battery charging is boot1 |
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| 14:08.16 | oliv3r | i flashed it using a livesuit image (supplied by manufacturer) and after it said 'flash successful' ... nothing. When I push the reset button, i get an empty battery indicator first, then the 'charging' battery indicator (whilst no charger is connected) and that's it. it fades out and doesn't do anything anymore. Only pressing the reset does anything |
| 14:08.33 | oliv3r | which is bringing the battery charging animation :S |
| 14:08.38 | rz2k | press power for 15 seconds |
| 14:08.51 | rz2k | this will force axp209 to turn off cpu |
| 14:08.55 | mnemoc | sometimes when they seem dead they are actually on FEL |
| 14:08.55 | rz2k | then press power again |
| 14:09.16 | oliv3r | yay! |
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| 14:10.09 | oliv3r | so 15 seconds of power will 'always' force the axp209 to turn off the CPU? no matter what? |
| 14:10.18 | oliv3r | FEL = DFU? |
| 14:10.41 | oliv3r | just wondering cause the pc didn't recoginze the PC |
| 14:11.01 | mnemoc | FEL is a low level usb recovery mode. if you plug it to a computer you'll see a device listed |
| 14:11.28 | oliv3r | hmm, livesuit didn't detect it |
| 14:12.25 | oliv3r | anyway, lots to learn even still :D |
| 14:12.59 | mnemoc | :) |
| 14:13.44 | oliv3r | so FEL is used to write live images right? |
| 14:14.06 | oliv3r | i did try to put it into livesuite writ emode (vol- + power button smashing), but only got some device error USB errors |
| 14:14.08 | mnemoc | to read, write and call memory |
| 14:14.24 | oliv3r | ah, so FEL is even lower then livesuit image writing? |
| 14:14.47 | mnemoc | livesuit uses it to push it's install and the data for it |
| 14:14.52 | mnemoc | installer* |
| 14:15.03 | oliv3r | ah, strange that livesuit didn't detect it |
| 14:16.24 | mnemoc | try with `./fel ver` |
| 14:16.49 | mnemoc | or most usually `sudo ./fel ver` |
| 14:24.01 | oliv3r | this is a work pc :( it's the wrong OS |
| 14:24.59 | mnemoc | :( |
| 14:26.28 | oliv3r | tell me about it :p |
| 14:32.29 | hipboi | http://linux-sunxi.org/Buildroot |
| 14:32.29 | hipboi | flash a livesuite image under 64 bit linux |
| 14:35.12 | mnemoc | oh |
| 14:35.13 | mnemoc | cool! |
| 14:37.48 | Turl | heh livesuite for linux |
| 14:37.56 | Turl | no more windows vms :) |
| 14:40.08 | ZaEarl | hipboi, for real??? |
| 14:40.37 | hipboi | ZaEarl: http://linux-sunxi.org/Buildroot |
| 14:40.58 | mnemoc | hipboi: can you move that to [[LiveSuit]]? :) |
| 14:42.00 | mnemoc | it's not a buildroot-only thing |
| 14:43.26 | hipboi | ok |
| 14:43.32 | xxiao | ubuntu, debian, oe, now buildroot, really good |
| 14:43.53 | hipboi | i was confused of [[livesuite]] [[livesuite image]] |
| 14:44.20 | mnemoc | the first is about the app the second about the image format |
| 14:44.22 | xxiao | only missing one is openwrt |
| 14:44.36 | mnemoc | xxiao: oe? can you update the wiki? |
| 14:45.18 | xxiao | mnemoc: http://linux-sunxi.org/OpenEmbedded ? |
| 14:45.37 | mnemoc | doh |
| 14:45.43 | mnemoc | yes, sorry. forgot |
| 14:46.27 | xxiao | android-debian-ubuntu-buildroot-oe, openwrt is nice but i don't think A10 is for network appliance anyway |
| 14:46.39 | xxiao | using oe daily is a pain, build is still very slow |
| 14:46.51 | xxiao | even slower than android |
| 14:48.05 | xxiao | hipboi: will next allwinner chip carry pcie? |
| 14:48.12 | mnemoc | xxiao: can you try to convince cnxsoft to give us access to the monster build server he got for building the nightlies? we can then automate buildroot and oe images too |
| 14:48.45 | hipboi | xxiao: i don't know |
| 14:48.50 | hipboi | xxiao: but i don't think so |
| 14:48.59 | hipboi | xxiao: since it's for talets |
| 14:49.02 | mnemoc | ZaEarl claims it will be announced today |
| 14:49.03 | Turl | hipboi: doesn't sun4i have pcie? |
| 14:49.26 | mnemoc | Turl: no, it doesn't |
| 14:49.48 | xxiao | mnemoc: i'm not familiar with cnxsoft, but i may try linaro |
| 14:49.58 | Turl | I saw some option on the sun4i defconfigs, made me think it had it |
| 14:50.09 | mnemoc | uhm |
| 14:50.30 | mnemoc | xxiao: cnxsoft made the scripts to produce hwpacks for a10 |
| 14:50.42 | xxiao | which we should be able to reuse |
| 14:50.46 | xxiao | ? |
| 14:50.47 | Turl | mnemoc: I can probably run random nightlies of stuff for you guys after I get a new hard disk for my desktop |
| 14:50.50 | mnemoc | xxiao: http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/20/nightly-builds-for-allwinner-a10-u-boot-linux-kernel-and-hardware-packs/ |
| 14:51.15 | mnemoc | Turl: that's an idling 4x8 xeon iirc |
| 14:51.46 | mnemoc | Turl: no need to abuse someone desktop's |
| 14:51.59 | Turl | mnemoc: this is an idling 4x2 i7 |
| 14:52.08 | mnemoc | :) |
| 14:52.33 | mnemoc | Turl: then start making CM10/sunxi images! :D |
| 14:52.38 | Turl | but it's booting off a USB hard disk :x |
| 14:52.50 | xxiao | get a 256G SSD |
| 14:52.54 | Turl | mnemoc: need a proper hard disk first :P |
| 14:53.03 | Turl | xxiao: I need a money tree first |
| 14:53.32 | xxiao | you have an idle i7 but need money tree for a disk, hmmm |
| 14:53.44 | mnemoc | *cough* |
| 14:54.13 | Turl | xxiao: yeah, i7s cost quite a while :x wallet is now dry-ish :p |
| 14:54.40 | mnemoc | has a humble amd e350 and doesn't need more |
| 14:54.44 | xxiao | actually if someone can estimate the montly build cost on aws i can try to set up a build machine |
| 14:54.55 | xxiao | if it's not too expensive, my free tier ends this month |
| 14:55.12 | Turl | xxiao: it costs quite a bit from what I heard |
| 14:56.00 | Turl | it was discussed once for CM, but it ended being a huge bill nobody was going to be able to pay |
| 14:56.04 | xxiao | it's easy for me to build on my i7 actually, but push the binaries upstream is slow, cable modem, 200kbps-ish |
| 14:56.22 | Turl | I can up at .75Mb/s |
| 14:57.03 | ZaEarl | that's plenty for a nightly |
| 14:57.36 | Turl | (notice the period) |
| 14:57.46 | mnemoc | Turl: for sharing the images you can also use linux-sunxi.org's server |
| 14:57.48 | ZaEarl | as long as you have somewhere to push them to |
| 14:57.56 | mnemoc | Turl: but build them somewhere else |
| 14:58.03 | Turl | mnemoc: yeah |
| 14:59.06 | xxiao | tested again, 100KB, 800kbps |
| 14:59.25 | mnemoc | xxiao: rsync rules :p |
| 14:59.48 | Turl | +1 |
| 14:59.49 | xxiao | but if you push a few new binaries nightly, i don't think rsync helps |
| 14:59.51 | ZaEarl | that's what, a 20 minute upload? |
| 15:00.30 | Turl | ZaEarl: for android? yeah (130 MB) / (0.75 (Mb / s)) = 23.1111111 minutes |
| 15:00.43 | mnemoc | sounds affordable ;-) |
| 15:01.13 | xxiao | let me explore it |
| 15:01.49 | xxiao | kick it off before going to bed, init 0 after the upload is done, should be fine |
| 15:02.11 | mnemoc | having now livesuit for linux the idea of having JB images is even more interesting |
| 15:02.17 | specing | echo mem > /sys/power/state |
| 15:02.52 | ZaEarl | how's acceleration for JB? is cedar working? |
| 15:03.50 | mnemoc | decoding yes, encoding no |
| 15:03.58 | mnemoc | thanks to Quarx |
| 15:04.24 | ZaEarl | excellent, decoding is by far more important |
| 15:04.39 | mnemoc | no encoding means no camera |
| 15:04.47 | mnemoc | but who cares about crappy cameras anywya |
| 15:05.41 | ZaEarl | cedar does the encoding even for still photos? |
| 15:06.03 | xxiao | mnemoc: just curious if cnxsoft is doing nightly build, what else do we need other than its stuff? |
| 15:06.03 | mnemoc | don't know |
| 15:06.35 | ZaEarl | I would like to take photos. |
| 15:06.43 | mnemoc | ZaEarl: Turl knows |
| 15:07.17 | mnemoc | xxiao: problem is cnxsoft isn't active here so he doesn't know when to fix his scripts. and also doesn't use the donated machine "enough" :) |
| 15:07.49 | mnemoc | xxiao: currently all "nightly"s are broken, but of outdated generation scripts |
| 15:07.58 | mnemoc | s/but/because/ |
| 15:08.16 | xxiao | mnemoc: i see |
| 15:08.36 | mnemoc | we need someone active here to take control over that |
| 15:08.53 | xxiao | that is you :) |
| 15:08.55 | mnemoc | or at least someone to take care of updating the scripts and sending pull requests |
| 15:08.58 | mnemoc | nah |
| 15:09.29 | mnemoc | I'm already overwelmed by my current sunxi "responsibilities" to add more :< |
| 15:10.07 | mnemoc | but it would be nice to use a not-$work$ server to do my test kernel builds :p |
| 15:10.38 | xxiao | linaro has a huge buildfarm which i had access, have not used it for a while, need check |
| 15:10.56 | mnemoc | xxiao: eh? so you are @linaro? |
| 15:11.18 | xxiao | not really but i know their tech leader |
| 15:11.20 | xxiao | :) |
| 15:11.26 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 15:12.59 | Turl | ZaEarl: still shots should be fine |
| 15:13.16 | ZaEarl | that's good |
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| 17:13.50 | cromo | is there a way to control the framebuffer overlay for a10? |
| 17:15.45 | cromo | I have my plasma connected via hdmi, but the overlay is too big and goes outside the visible area of the display |
| 17:16.32 | techn | cromo: check your script.bin's scaler property is set off |
| 17:16.49 | mnemoc | using ioctrl()s you can pick different known resolutions |
| 17:17.03 | techn | if it's ok.. check that your tv has overscan off |
| 17:21.10 | cromo | mnemoc: I did try that already, switched from default 720 to 1080p, the resolution has changed, but the overlay is still too big |
| 17:21.54 | mnemoc | cromo: check what techn said |
| 17:23.34 | Turl | mnemoc: new A10? http://www.allwinnertech.com/product/A10s.html |
| 17:23.41 | cromo | mnemoc: yeah, doing that now |
| 17:24.26 | mnemoc | Turl: uh |
| 17:24.37 | cromo | fb0_scaler_mode_enable = 1 |
| 17:24.40 | cromo | fb1_scaler_mode_enable = 1 |
| 17:24.51 | cromo | so I assume I should switch off? |
| 17:24.56 | cromo | or is that correct? |
| 17:25.04 | mnemoc | Turl: please comment it on the list |
| 17:25.17 | mnemoc | BGA336 ... it has less pins |
| 17:25.26 | techn | cromo: I think that could be solution.. but first check that overscan setting to be sure |
| 17:25.39 | mnemoc | the normal A10 has 441 |
| 17:25.59 | techn | mnemoc: I noticed that there is no CSI |
| 17:26.27 | techn | and no video DAC's :/ |
| 17:26.40 | mnemoc | uhm |
| 17:26.49 | mnemoc | wiki is starting to need a comparison table :< |
| 17:26.53 | techn | oh.. there is CSI.. but no DAC's |
| 17:29.53 | cromo | techn: it was overscan... I thought I tried all of the options before, but found another one in the menus. thanks |
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| 17:30.36 | techn | cromo: np :) |
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| 17:56.38 | mnemoc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsDK0-4dTvE |
| 17:56.57 | mnemoc | 13.3" a10 laptop, by charbax |
| 17:57.51 | mnemoc | hahaha.... he started to sell "premium" access to scanned business cards :) |
| 17:58.07 | mnemoc | and specs documents |
| 18:00.24 | jelly-home | hey, it has 16:10 instead of 16:9 screen, gotta respect it somewhat |
| 18:01.09 | traeak | sata? |
| 18:03.54 | jelly-home | "4G NAND flash" |
| 18:04.11 | traeak | geez, the absolute best feature of the a10 blown off |
| 18:04.39 | mnemoc | where the hell is my eoma68 laptop?! :< |
| 18:05.49 | traeak | ugh internal fixed battery makes this a pain for full reset |
| 18:06.11 | traeak | occasionally have to do that to my netbooks, every once in a while the wireless honks up really good |
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| 18:21.48 | Turl | mnemoc: is it me or does that laptop have a Intel sticker? :P |
| 18:23.29 | mnemoc | yeah :p |
| 18:23.41 | mnemoc | the land of BS marketing |
| 18:23.43 | hno | quite funny. |
| 18:26.03 | rz2k | http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuite - livesuit is developed by allwinner? |
| 18:26.50 | mnemoc | rz2k: hipboi wrote it... so I suppose it is |
| 18:26.58 | mnemoc | wrote the page i mean |
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| 18:38.39 | hno | Funny not even Tom can spell LiveSuit correctly. |
| 18:39.17 | jelly-home | waitwhat, the page name is misspelled |
| 18:39.37 | jelly-home | or is the application name misspelled |
| 18:40.09 | mnemoc | Livesuit-linux.zip Livesuit.rar |
| 18:40.13 | mnemoc | no 'e' |
| 18:41.20 | mnemoc | the page with 'e' redirects to the 'e'-less |
| 18:42.48 | Turl | mnemoc: I fixed all the e-ful references on the wiki |
| 18:42.56 | mnemoc | thanks :) |
| 18:42.56 | Turl | left the redirects alone though |
| 18:43.58 | mnemoc | i was doubtful when I saw his edits |
| 18:44.04 | mnemoc | but$ unzip Livesuit-linux.zip |
| 18:44.07 | mnemoc | Archive: Livesuit-linux.zip |
| 18:44.09 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.17 | mnemoc | confirmed it e-less-ness |
| 18:44.22 | mnemoc | it's |
| 18:45.35 | Turl | mnemoc: looking at the future, what's the priority stuff to get done so we can get stuff mainlined later on? |
| 18:45.36 | hno | Linux version? |
| 18:45.50 | Turl | hno: yes |
| 18:45.50 | mnemoc | yes |
| 18:45.54 | hno | Where? |
| 18:45.55 | mnemoc | allwinner-pack-tools/tools/Livesuit-linux.zip |
| 18:46.10 | mnemoc | haven't tried it yet |
| 18:46.24 | hno | The ones published by Toms friend? |
| 18:46.32 | mnemoc | yes |
| 18:46.37 | mnemoc | cubieboard branch |
| 18:47.56 | mnemoc | hno: same repo has packing tool |
| 18:47.57 | mnemoc | s |
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| 18:49.15 | hno | 7 hours old. |
| 18:51.34 | mnemoc | :) |
| 18:52.55 | hno | Interesting, but only a diversion from our path. |
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| 18:53.37 | mnemoc | i have no plan to use it... but sure it will be handy if i need to reflash one of the devices |
| 18:53.48 | Turl | mnemoc: question up there? ^ :P |
| 18:54.12 | mnemoc | Turl: uh |
| 18:54.20 | oliv3r | anybody have an usefull to put on an uSD card precompiled to test on my tablet :) |
| 18:54.41 | mnemoc | Turl: pinctrl and common clock comes first |
| 18:54.47 | mnemoc | Turl: then DT |
| 18:55.11 | oliv3r | also, the livesuit-linux, i tried to find it, but the tools repo in the post was empty, and couldn't find it any of the other repo's |
| 18:55.19 | mnemoc | Turl: and then multiplatform |
| 18:55.29 | mnemoc | oliv3r: cubieboard branch |
| 18:56.12 | mnemoc | Turl: there is a 3.6+multiplatform in arm-soc's repo we can use as base... or wait until 3.7 |
| 18:56.33 | mnemoc | but i doubt we will have pinctrl, clocks, and DT before 3.7 anyway |
| 18:56.59 | mnemoc | Turl: in the drivers side, we need to unify the sun*i drivers |
| 18:57.29 | mnemoc | Turl: 1 driver for all is simpler to move forward than everything*3 |
| 18:57.43 | mnemoc | and simpler to fix |
| 18:58.16 | mnemoc | as of brokenness. we need to refactor usb gadget integration and get it working in 3.4 |
| 18:59.07 | mnemoc | Turl: makes snese? |
| 18:59.08 | mnemoc | sense* |
| 19:01.55 | Turl | mnemoc: kinda sorta :) |
| 19:02.06 | Turl | needs to learn more stuff for sure :P |
| 19:04.28 | mnemoc | the broken usb gadget integration is a serious problem even without thinking in future and mainline |
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| 19:13.04 | hno | mnemoc, you started a linux-sunxi github organisation? |
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| 19:13.33 | mnemoc | hno: yes... but only the "verified" .fex repo there |
| 19:14.17 | mnemoc | i didn't want to keep adding repos aimed to the community to my personal github |
| 19:14.26 | mnemoc | you are admin too |
| 19:14.51 | hno | I noticed. |
| 19:14.58 | oliv3r | nice ione, good place to have everything organized together :) |
| 19:14.59 | mnemoc | i would move the linux repo there too.... but github doesn't do redirects :-/ |
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| 19:16.53 | oliv3r | can someone help me understand this? |
| 19:16.59 | hno | oliv3r, what? |
| 19:17.05 | oliv3r | i have 2 livesuit images, one for 4.0.3 and one for 4.0.4; both from manufacturer |
| 19:17.20 | oliv3r | both work fine |
| 19:17.42 | hno | mnemoc, a default branch with only a README telling the repository have moved ought to get most peoples attention. |
| 19:18.06 | mnemoc | hno: good idea |
| 19:18.24 | oliv3r | i've downloaded christian troy's CM10 (and 9 too) archives |
| 19:18.50 | mnemoc | oliv3r: prefer Turl's repo |
| 19:18.56 | oliv3r | 4and installed them. both work fine when using 4.0.3 as 'base' (but wiping everything in CWM), but not in 4.0.4 |
| 19:19.11 | oliv3r | deff gonna try that |
| 19:19.30 | hno | dont's understand a squat of what oliv3r is doing. |
| 19:19.49 | oliv3r | i flashed the 4.0.4 full image |
| 19:20.00 | oliv3r | then installed CWM and CM10 |
| 19:20.25 | oliv3r | but it won't 'boot', bootanimation keeps looping, i can login, but the rom doesn't have root at that stage, so can't even do a dmesg to debug |
| 19:20.47 | Turl | forgot to wipe data? :P |
| 19:20.55 | oliv3r | what I don't get, even though i use the stock images as base, then format and reinstall CM10 (or 9) what can be IN the stock image to cause errors |
| 19:20.58 | oliv3r | lol i'll double check |
| 19:21.33 | hno | mnemoc, I should probably push stable u-boot version there, when there is one.. |
| 19:21.34 | oliv3r | i wipe data, cache, dalvik cache |
| 19:22.02 | Turl | "wipe data/factory reset" does all that on one hit :) |
| 19:22.30 | oliv3r | then i deffo didi that |
| 19:22.42 | hno | Slighlty disappointed howver. Not a single board submission response to my arm-netbook mail. |
| 19:22.44 | oliv3r | can you link me your repo/zip? |
| 19:22.47 | Turl | oliv3r: tried 'adb logcat' to see why isn't it booting? |
| 19:22.56 | Turl | https://github.com/Atrix-Dev-Team |
| 19:23.03 | mnemoc | hno: :-( |
| 19:23.17 | Turl | eh, wrong link |
| 19:23.29 | Turl | https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/ that one :P |
| 19:23.41 | oliv3r | still, when wiping /system /data and the caches, install CWM; what could else cause boot failures? |
| 19:23.48 | mnemoc | at least you didn't paste one of your tabs with pr0n |
| 19:24.01 | Turl | mnemoc: :P |
| 19:24.31 | Turl | oliv3r: partition derpage causing data to be mounted read only |
| 19:24.47 | oliv3r | they DID change partition sizes |
| 19:24.51 | oliv3r | derpage?! |
| 19:24.53 | Turl | it's pretty obvious to see what's wrong when running logcat |
| 19:25.00 | oliv3r | oh yeah |
| 19:25.44 | hno | mnemoc, didn't you have some A10 tablet? |
| 19:26.31 | mnemoc | hno: 3. but none is "mine" and I kind of forgot about them |
| 19:27.11 | hno | and they are sufficiently old so script.bin should have the data we need. |
| 19:27.30 | mnemoc | yes, very likely |
| 19:28.06 | hno | the change came with release of a13. |
| 19:29.08 | mnemoc | getting boot1 from a tablet is not a trivial thing |
| 19:29.21 | mnemoc | i suppose it scares people |
| 19:29.33 | mnemoc | (it scares me) |
| 19:29.35 | techn | hno: MID A10 tablet .fex config dram params are same as for mele_a1000.. MID A13 tablet's .fex file showed sligtly different params that olinuxo_a13.. I applied them and A13 tablet is booting with quite good success rate |
| 19:29.35 | oliv3r | 123what about etxracting it from a liveimage? |
| 19:30.10 | hno | ol1ver, livesuit detects the parameters while flashing the NAND. |
| 19:30.18 | oliv3r | :S |
| 19:30.48 | mnemoc | hno: having u-boot stable for the "supported devices" it might be a good idea to get a `fel` based tool to extract it |
| 19:30.55 | mnemoc | or fel+uboot |
| 19:31.02 | techn | hno: but cold boot doesnt seem to work.. even with a13 tablet :( |
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| 19:33.18 | hno | techn, and no UART on that one I suppose. |
| 19:33.36 | techn | hno: Still waiting that cable :( |
| 19:34.37 | hno | But I have to admit, tablets is not really targeted by SPL yet. Competely ignoring anything related to batteries or charging. |
| 19:36.13 | hno | but it should work anyway unless I have overlooked something. |
| 19:36.19 | techn | hno, it seems that when tablet has been without power.. I need to do 15sek reset first to get it boot correctly |
| 19:36.51 | hno | even for the built-in nand? |
| 19:37.20 | techn | That MID A10 tablet has somekind grounding problem.. so it drams capasitors empty really fast??? and problem is more visible?? |
| 19:37.20 | hno | How is a tablet without power? Do you remove the battery? |
| 19:37.48 | mnemoc | just let it dry :p |
| 19:37.53 | mnemoc | my daughters do it all the time :< |
| 19:38.07 | hno | mnemoc, it still have plenty of power. |
| 19:38.26 | techn | hno: Power off for a while seems to do the trick.. no need to remove battery |
| 19:38.53 | hno | Power off with power button is not power off. It only powers off the CPU. |
| 19:39.10 | hno | and not even all of it either. |
| 19:39.39 | hno | the PMU is still running, and keeps lots of settings. |
| 19:39.43 | techn | yeah.. but you got the point |
| 19:40.24 | hno | techn, not really. I get what you are doing, but not what might be the cause to your problems. |
| 19:41.26 | hno | anywayl, don't experiement with u-boot SPL on an empty battery. |
| 19:41.56 | hno | don't wamt to be blaimed for destroying your battery. |
| 19:41.56 | Turl | mnemoc: my tablet dries by itself even if I shut it off |
| 19:42.01 | Turl | likes to boot randomly :P |
| 19:42.07 | techn | hno: Yep.. Can't tell more without that cable |
| 19:42.13 | mnemoc | Turl: Za's? |
| 19:42.23 | Turl | yep |
| 19:42.29 | mnemoc | :( |
| 19:43.05 | Turl | and there's some insulation issue too, when charging and stuff the back metal cover gets voltage :P |
| 19:43.11 | hno | Turl, are you sure you don't have an RTC alarm going off? |
| 19:43.51 | Turl | hno: I'm betting it's that |
| 19:44.31 | hno | gets voltage relative to what? |
| 19:45.02 | Turl | hno: https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/42 |
| 19:45.36 | Turl | hno: it gets connected to some powered circuit, I'm assuming the charger itself |
| 19:46.01 | hno | It |
| 19:46.23 | Turl | it=the back aluminium? cover |
| 19:46.39 | hno | It's quite common for chargers to not have 0V on the "gnd" polarity. |
| 19:46.54 | Turl | https://omgubuntu.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/zatab.jpg |
| 19:47.36 | Turl | hno: it does the same for USB |
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| 19:48.38 | hno | What do you measure voltage against? |
| 19:49.18 | hno | where is your 0V reference / GND? |
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| 19:51.10 | hno | Turl, it is easy to check if there is an RTC alarm armed using sunxi u-boot. |
| 19:51.18 | Turl | hno: I measure voltage as "f*ck, I got shocked when I touched it" |
| 19:51.24 | hno | if you have console. |
| 19:51.34 | Turl | I don't :( |
| 19:52.26 | hno | I guess it should be possible to automate dumping the RTC registers to SD with a little boot.scr. |
| 19:53.56 | drachensun | wow turl, thats pretty bad |
| 19:54.02 | drachensun | I sold some of that tablets |
| 19:54.17 | drachensun | they kept arriving with loose internal sd cards so I stopped getting them |
| 19:54.47 | drachensun | that was how they upgraded the rom, just stuck in an sd to an internal slot, the tape they used was sh*t though |
| 19:55.05 | Turl | (of course if you have proper footwear when you touch them its barely noticeable) |
| 19:55.22 | Turl | mine has nand inside |
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| 19:56.42 | drachensun | thats good |
| 19:57.46 | Turl | not really, it's slow :P |
| 19:58.10 | Turl | a cheap SD card can probably outperform it easily |
| 19:58.51 | mnemoc | i'm not sure if that's because of the driver or because they use really crappy nands |
| 19:59.23 | hno | nands are generally crappy. |
| 20:00.11 | Turl | got used to eMMC speeds |
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| 20:11.56 | xxiao | http://www.wandboard.org/ |
| 20:14.05 | mnemoc | xxiao: sad they decided to skip the sata connector |
| 20:14.33 | mnemoc | i'll pass until they do the quad version WITH sata :) |
| 20:15.16 | xxiao | it's unsolder-ed, which means the holes are there |
| 20:15.34 | xxiao | i'm asking the imx guys on what that is |
| 20:15.48 | xxiao | looks like it's made in Europe and no distributor in US? |
| 20:15.59 | mnemoc | it doesn't exist yet |
| 20:16.06 | xxiao | soon |
| 20:16.06 | mnemoc | it can't have distributors |
| 20:16.08 | xxiao | from the site |
| 20:16.19 | xxiao | http://www.wandboard.org/index.php/order |
| 20:16.23 | xxiao | pre-order that is |
| 20:16.32 | mnemoc | sure... but distributors will come after it goes on mass production |
| 20:16.53 | xxiao | yocto will be officially supported by FSL |
| 20:17.16 | mnemoc | yocto is LF's fork of oe |
| 20:17.55 | mnemoc | somehow i don't like their attitude |
| 20:18.11 | xxiao | you're right, LF is a puppet for big guys |
| 20:21.39 | oliv3r | turl, the log, reveals all!; can't find 'tombstone' dalvikvm can't start, unable to process classpath element /system/framework/apache-xml.jar and no valid entries found in bootclasspath /system/framework/core.jar etc etc etc |
| 20:21.48 | oliv3r | and cannot stat dex dir |
| 20:22.06 | oliv3r | i'll look more into the logs to see if i can spot what really causes it, as the rom 'should' be fine in theory |
| 20:22.29 | oliv3r | ohh /cache might be really broke |
| 20:22.37 | xxiao | mnemoc: how is SATA performance on A10, do you know |
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| 20:23.47 | mnemoc | xxiao: variable... here on a humble 2.5" goes 40-60MB/s .... when using my 2x3.5 raid1 device with esata it can go up to 80-90 |
| 20:24.17 | mnemoc | haven't tried ssd |
| 20:24.26 | xxiao | not bad |
| 20:24.38 | mnemoc | but i find it quite good for such a little device |
| 20:25.24 | xxiao | i have been thinking if it's feasible to use A10 instead of marvell to do home NAS devices |
| 20:25.56 | xxiao | mid-range NAS then powerpc 101x is pretty decent |
| 20:35.41 | rm | yeah |
| 20:36.30 | rm | may seem bizzare due to all the mali/cedar/audio/touchscreen/whatnot crap it has built in |
| 20:38.27 | rm | but for the price and the specs that you get, it's certainly awesome |
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| 20:42.07 | xxiao | after mele1000 been here for 1+ month i should finally have some time to play with it... |
| 20:48.15 | mnemoc | rm: and all that stuff can get disabled :) |
| 20:49.14 | rm | yep |
| 20:49.24 | rm | but "you're still paying for it" |
| 20:50.03 | mnemoc | the new A10s removed LCD and DAC... but it seems they removed SATA too :< |
| 20:59.54 | oliv3r | turl, it looks like it could really be a permission issue, /data and the /cache dir could all wrong permissions, and the 4.0.4 stock will boot, as it all runs in root anyway ... should be fixable then :) |
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| 21:06.45 | xxiao | A10, A13, what's the new A10? |
| 21:07.02 | xxiao | if LCD/DAC/SATA all gone, what's for? |
| 21:07.46 | mnemoc | hdmi dongles and settop things |
| 21:08.07 | mnemoc | http://www.allwinnertech.com/en/product/A10s.html |
| 21:10.03 | xxiao | is this one out yet? |
| 21:10.14 | xxiao | they should all be the same die i believe |
| 21:11.26 | xxiao | mnemoc: trying to build the A10 images, what's the new script you mentioned |
| 21:11.35 | xxiao | other than the one on cnxsoft |
| 21:12.07 | mnemoc | xxiao: cnxsoft script is to make hwpacks. i don't know other for that |
| 21:13.33 | xxiao | ok, let me check around to pull in all pieces |
| 21:24.55 | mnemoc | hno: sunxi-tools moved to linux-sunxi orga. |
| 21:40.43 | mnemoc | linux-allwinner will follow |
| 21:40.53 | mnemoc | and then the notification mail |
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| 21:54.49 | techn | mnemoc: these too https://github.com/cnxsoft/a10-config, https://github.com/cnxsoft/a10-bin.. or related/similar :) |
| 21:56.00 | mnemoc | techn: if cnxsoft wants |
| 21:56.05 | techn | bins == mali libs, cedarx libs etc.. |
| 21:57.22 | techn | configs == .fex files, u-boot cfg files etc.. |
| 21:58.48 | mnemoc | problem with those .fex files is that they don't have verified dram params |
| 21:59.09 | mnemoc | livesuit ignores what's on script.bin and probes itself |
| 21:59.50 | mnemoc | techn: can you talk with cnxsoft about transfering those and the nightly builds stuff to someone more... active? |
| 22:01.24 | techn | Try to kick me tomorrow :) |
| 22:02.55 | mnemoc | it's already tomorrow :p |
| 22:03.03 | jelly-home | only in EU |
| 22:03.08 | mnemoc | :) |
| 22:03.51 | mnemoc | techn: I added you to a team called "developers"... can you see if you can still do things in the linux-sunxi orga? |
| 22:05.01 | mnemoc | the teams page implies teams need a list of repos |
| 22:05.53 | techn | mnemoc: I can add my self to public member.. bu I don't have write access to repos |
| 22:06.01 | mnemoc | meh |
| 22:07.51 | techn | mnemoc: got access |
| 22:31.50 | techn | whee.. edid starts to be on proof of concept stage ;) |
| 22:34.16 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 22:37.32 | techn | 720p<->1080p, ok.. but V:1024x768p-60 didn't work :( |
| 22:38.14 | techn | V:800x600p-60, ok |
| 22:38.52 | techn | V:800x600p-75, ok |
| 22:39.27 | mnemoc | linux-allwinner moved to linux-sunxi |
| 22:39.37 | mnemoc | should I keep the branch name? |
| 22:40.14 | mnemoc | or rename it to..... sunxi-3.0 ? linux-sunxi-3.0 ? linux-3.0-sunxi ? .... |
| 22:46.51 | techn | imho shorter better |
| 22:47.18 | mnemoc | sunxi-3.0 ? or better suggestion? |
| 22:52.40 | lundman | ok |
| 22:53.49 | mnemoc | i stink at naming :| |
| 22:54.55 | mnemoc | techn: 1024x768p-60 didn't work because bad info provided by the displat? |
| 22:56.41 | techn | mnemoc: dunno.. gotta sleep now :D |
| 22:57.08 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 23:20.13 | cromo | I compiled the newest xbmca10 to try out how it works under 1080p, but it actually looks like it still runs in 720 despite the overlay being bigger |
| 23:20.20 | cromo | anyone tested it yet? |
| 23:21.09 | cromo | the picture seems properly scaled to 1080, but is cropped to 720 |
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| 23:35.55 | lundman | i tried it 2 days ago, didnt start in 1080 |
| 23:35.59 | lundman | runs the same in 720p |
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| 23:47.49 | mnemoc | lkcl: please let my mail about the rename of the repos pass moderation :| |
| 23:47.53 | mnemoc | good night |
