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| 00:43.25 | drachensun | Does anyone know how to make the screen rotate? |
| 00:43.51 | drachensun | I've managed to get the frame buffer to rotate on the terminal login |
| 00:44.10 | drachensun | but I'm been looking at X guides and can't seem to get it to rotate |
| 00:46.05 | ccssnet | hmm |
| 00:46.08 | ccssnet | good question |
| 00:46.16 | ccssnet | i was thinking of doing that recently |
| 00:46.32 | ejstacey | does it use xrandr? |
| 00:46.39 | drachensun | thats what I tried |
| 00:46.42 | ejstacey | should be able to use the xrandr command to rotate things using it |
| 00:46.48 | ejstacey | ah |
| 00:46.51 | drachensun | xrandr --output LCD --rotate left |
| 00:47.09 | ejstacey | bummer |
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| 00:47.20 | ejstacey | assuming LCD is the proper output |
| 00:47.21 | drachensun | "output LCD cannot use rotation "left" relflection "none" |
| 00:47.25 | ejstacey | ah |
| 00:47.35 | ejstacey | not sure then, sorry |
| 00:47.47 | drachensun | I've got a tablet |
| 00:47.57 | drachensun | and xrandr --verbose -q only list the LCD |
| 00:48.38 | drachensun | it only shows the mode 1024x600, so I am trying to figure out how to add more, or if the driver just doesn't support it |
| 00:49.51 | ccssnet | maybe a module missing in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 00:50.49 | drachensun | well on my desktop xrandr works to rotate the screen of course and I noticed in the -q I see a lot of modes listed |
| 00:51.07 | drachensun | but only the one mode on the A10, so that seems like the most likely thing to change |
| 00:51.56 | drachensun | weird thing, on my mint pc here I can't find the xorg.conf file |
| 00:52.04 | drachensun | I was hoping to look at it for an example |
| 00:52.22 | ccssnet | drachensun: look for a xorg folder in its plac |
| 00:52.23 | ccssnet | e |
| 00:53.00 | ccssnet | also, newer xorg is supposed to auto detect so the file is still usable for backwards reasons |
| 00:53.47 | drachensun | I found a page about it, I guess mint doesn't have it by default but you can generate one |
| 00:53.50 | drachensun | I'm trying it now |
| 00:53.55 | ccssnet | nice |
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| 00:55.02 | ccssnet | take a look at this one i wrote for someone else: atccss.net/private/xorg.conf-4-Slash0mega |
| 00:55.26 | ccssnet | was for a 14.1" screen netbook/laptop |
| 00:59.11 | ccssnet | youll need to change driver, and video card bus id |
| 00:59.18 | ccssnet | plus resolutions |
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| 01:07.27 | drachensun | no luck, couldn't make the file |
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| 01:08.21 | ccssnet | hmph |
| 01:10.59 | drachensun | ok, I found you response in the chat log |
| 01:11.06 | drachensun | I tried adding those modes and I'm rebooting now |
| 01:12.18 | drachensun | hmmm the new modes still dont show when I run the xrandr query |
| 01:15.08 | drachensun | oh well, thats all the time I have for now. Its a real shame too, the gsensor fires right up and I found a x script to autorotate the screen |
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| 01:28.08 | ccssnet | hmph |
| 01:28.16 | ccssnet | did you check the link i pasted? |
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| 14:44.09 | WarheadsSE | so, who wants to point me in the right direction on iMX video drivers? |
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| 14:46.26 | mnemoc | steev is our local iMX expert |
| 14:46.35 | WarheadsSE | mk |
| 14:46.38 | steev | sup |
| 14:46.48 | WarheadsSE | trying to figure out the configuration for xorg |
| 14:46.54 | WarheadsSE | hdmi hates me :p |
| 14:47.09 | steev | hdmi hates everyone |
| 14:47.11 | WarheadsSE | andhaving problems finding decent docs on the deriver/xorg |
| 14:47.15 | steev | she's a spiteful mistress |
| 14:47.16 | WarheadsSE | lol .. |
| 14:47.26 | WarheadsSE | this HDMI works perfect on the A10 SoC so, go figure. |
| 14:47.39 | steev | firstly, what chip, secondly, what kernel/driver(s) |
| 14:47.52 | steev | thirdly, does it work with fbdev |
| 14:47.54 | WarheadsSE | imx6q, on a nitrogen6x |
| 14:48.09 | WarheadsSE | 3.0.35 from git w/ freescale & boundary patches |
| 14:48.19 | WarheadsSE | I'm not getting decent configuration with fbdev. |
| 14:48.30 | WarheadsSE | decent meaning, im fucking it up |
| 14:48.42 | steev | you shouldn't need to "configure" anything |
| 14:49.08 | steev | however I bet the bootloader has (unless you modified it) specified to use 1920x1080 |
| 14:49.22 | WarheadsSE | which would be nice .. let me get the cmdline |
| 14:49.33 | WarheadsSE | video=mxcfb0:dev=lcd,CLAA-WVGA,if=RGB666 video=mxcfb1:dev=hdmi,1280x720M@60,if=RGB24 |
| 14:49.47 | steev | okay then it's defaulting to 1280x720 |
| 14:50.03 | WarheadsSE | looks like it is jumping to fb0, coming up virtual 800x480 |
| 14:50.29 | steev | if mxcfb0 is not connected it's ignored |
| 14:50.44 | steev | fb0 will always be the first framebuffer device regardless of connection |
| 14:50.46 | WarheadsSE | no /dev/mxcfb* |
| 14:50.55 | steev | doesn't matter |
| 14:50.57 | WarheadsSE | mk |
| 14:51.05 | steev | it won't create /dev/mxcfb* |
| 14:51.15 | steev | that is/was a udev rule and was/is stupid to do |
| 14:51.16 | WarheadsSE | Alright |
| 14:51.37 | WarheadsSE | anything in particular I should be looking to ensure is in place? |
| 14:51.58 | steev | if you have an xorg.conf, move it out of the way. second, post up that Xorg.0.log somewhere |
| 14:52.11 | steev | the current one, as well as after moving .conf |
| 14:52.13 | TomNL | guys i am trying to crosscompile xbmc on debian squeeze. but i keep getting |
| 14:52.14 | TomNL | error: impossible constraint in âasmâ |
| 14:52.18 | TomNL | any suggestions? |
| 14:52.34 | steev | TomNL: post up more of the error somewhere? |
| 14:54.14 | TomNL | http://pastebin.com/Vv7ncutD |
| 14:54.44 | WarheadsSE | steev: http://sprunge.us/ERQZ |
| 14:55.39 | steev | WarheadsSE: interesting, and if you use the bsp... oh wait, you probably don't have access to it |
| 14:55.46 | steev | or is it realeased |
| 14:55.52 | steev | i just got back from a week's vacation |
| 14:56.19 | WarheadsSE | steev: I have access to a lot ;) I am not on bsp though. |
| 14:56.37 | steev | okay - so have you tried the fsl xorg driver instead of fbdev |
| 14:56.45 | WarheadsSE | Nope. |
| 14:56.47 | steev | i don't have a nit6 |
| 14:57.01 | steev | i have sabresd, and sabrelite, and our own board |
| 14:57.13 | WarheadsSE | Eric sent this one over for me to get Arch up on. Have most of it sorted, except wierd sata behavior & testing video |
| 14:57.35 | steev | heh |
| 14:57.43 | steev | yeah, they have some minor issues |
| 14:57.56 | steev | my lite likes to lock up when using sata |
| 14:58.00 | WarheadsSE | Like, it doesnt see the attached drive :p |
| 14:58.04 | steev | the SD has been pretty solid |
| 14:58.20 | WarheadsSE | yeah, I get the occasional hiccup on sd, but just the write delay |
| 14:58.25 | steev | but you gotta be all lovey dovey with fsl to get it - should be available soon since it's now october |
| 14:58.26 | WarheadsSE | anyways.. |
| 14:59.12 | steev | but yeah - if you have access to their driver, give it a shot, i'm not sure why it would bust out a virtual. alternatively, remove the mxcfb0 portion from the bootargs in uboot |
| 14:59.26 | steev | see if that helps, i normally don't put stuff in that could remotely cause an issue |
| 15:00.25 | WarheadsSE | re-reads bootscript |
| 15:00.31 | WarheadsSE | remme reboot with the hdmi in. |
| 15:01.42 | WarheadsSE | appears its got an hdmidetect in uboot w/ a switch on teh args. |
| 15:01.52 | WarheadsSE | oh look, fbconsole.. |
| 15:02.21 | WarheadsSE | claps |
| 15:02.40 | steev | oh wait, you were plugging in hdmi after? |
| 15:02.49 | WarheadsSE | yeah |
| 15:02.51 | WarheadsSE | :p |
| 15:02.59 | WarheadsSE | hence it was thinking LCD came up 0 |
| 15:03.02 | steev | in that case it was likely using 800x600 or whatever as a placeholder, and doesn't do hotplug support |
| 15:03.16 | WarheadsSE | not very well, no |
| 15:03.26 | steev | hotplug is notoriously difficult |
| 15:03.39 | WarheadsSE | should work with the edid/dcc but, meh |
| 15:03.45 | WarheadsSE | I know the troublesome that it is. |
| 15:03.47 | steev | it's not about edid/dcc |
| 15:04.44 | steev | it's about every monitor manufacturer doing different shit with their monitors, so you get weird stuff like the monitor turning off, going into standby, sending the edid twice, not re-sending it at all, so on and so forth |
| 15:04.53 | WarheadsSE | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.20 | steev | yay |
| 15:05.24 | WarheadsSE | points at second line :) |
| 15:05.32 | WarheadsSE | "I know how troublesome that is" |
| 15:06.03 | WarheadsSE | attempting xfce4 .. |
| 15:06.06 | WarheadsSE | woo |
| 15:06.34 | steev | are you keeping the claa stuff in for a reason? |
| 15:06.54 | WarheadsSE | nah, its just part of the bootscript I had |
| 15:07.02 | steev | ah |
| 15:07.06 | WarheadsSE | figured, OHAI, i'll give it quick whirl |
| 15:07.12 | WarheadsSE | I'll gank later |
| 15:07.16 | steev | as a gentoo dev i prefer to get rid of cruft :P |
| 15:07.28 | steev | as a bonus i get paid to do it :P |
| 15:07.51 | WarheadsSE | steev: as an Arch dev I gernally agree. Sadly, I don't yet get paid to do it :p |
| 15:08.13 | steev | i was a gentoo dev for 5 years or so before it netted me this job :) |
| 15:08.30 | WarheadsSE | I'm working on beating that goal by 3 years;) |
| 15:08.42 | WarheadsSE | few months to go yet :p |
| 15:09.53 | traeak | xfce4 meets wife's approval |
| 15:10.37 | WarheadsSE | OMF really? unplug USB mouse it doesnt recognize.. unmounts / ... |
| 15:10.38 | traeak | for a lightweight productivity desktop for casual users IMHO xfce4 is the best |
| 15:10.39 | WarheadsSE | d!@#$%@^#$^# |
| 15:10.52 | traeak | no stupid extraneous crap |
| 15:11.06 | traeak | i don't give a rip about the desktop, its the applications that matter |
| 15:13.05 | WarheadsSE | yeah.. |
| 15:13.08 | WarheadsSE | thats a problem. |
| 15:13.22 | WarheadsSE | Plug in root-hub powered usb device.. SD go poof. |
| 15:15.14 | WarheadsSE | steev: anyone seen issues with USB? |
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| 15:58.11 | steev | WarheadsSE: i haven't yet |
| 15:59.54 | WarheadsSE | something must be broken in my system then :p |
| 16:00.25 | mnemoc | yes, it's running Arch |
| 16:00.29 | mnemoc | hides |
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| 16:02.20 | WarheadsSE | mnemoc: ... |
| 16:02.40 | WarheadsSE | considering I've been futzing around with the kernel config I can't rule out botching something |
| 16:09.52 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 18:33.19 | Turl | hno: are you around? |
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| 18:37.35 | techn_ | http://guillaumeplayground.net/allwinner-a10-cluster-mele-a2000/ |
| 18:38.17 | techn_ | less than 0.5W 16 mele with SSD :p |
| 18:40.11 | jinzo | you have waay too much money :) |
| 18:40.37 | drachensun | hey techn, got any thoughts on how the make the screen rotate? |
| 18:41.27 | jinzo | techn_, an impressive feat tho. |
| 18:42.10 | jinzo | with the 1GB A10 versions popping out, it'll be even more interesting |
| 18:42.30 | techn_ | no.. thats not mine.. guillames cluster |
| 18:43.32 | rm | > Ethernet relay board |
| 18:43.34 | rm | O.o |
| 18:43.44 | rm | back in my day we were using Ethernet switches |
| 18:43.59 | rm | (and that's the way we liked it) |
| 18:44.17 | Turl | mnemoc: hmm, are you around? |
| 18:44.21 | jinzo | rm, it's not what you think it is |
| 18:44.30 | jinzo | it's just 16 relays controllable via Ethernet |
| 18:44.34 | rm | ah right |
| 18:44.52 | jinzo | (I had the same tought, had to check :D) |
| 18:45.27 | rm | 280 mA @ 220V is how much in W |
| 18:45.40 | rm | 61W? |
| 18:47.11 | mnemoc | Turl: |
| 18:48.50 | traeak | 62W :-p |
| 18:49.44 | Turl | mnemoc: I'm having trouble getting uboot to use tne cmdline I provide |
| 18:49.45 | techn_ | drachensun: No idea :( |
| 18:51.39 | Turl | it's line it's not reading the boot.scr mnemoc |
| 18:52.15 | techn_ | rm: ah.. It was too good to be true (0.5W) :) |
| 18:53.37 | mnemoc | Turl: sure you are using a uboot that supports boot.scr? |
| 18:53.54 | mnemoc | Turl: also note boot.scr is binary, uEnv.txt is text |
| 18:54.09 | Turl | mnemoc: yeah I made boot.cmd then compiled it as indicated on the wiki mnemoc |
| 18:54.16 | Turl | I used hno's precompiled uboot |
| 18:54.23 | mnemoc | how old? |
| 18:54.41 | Turl | u-boot-mmc-hno-v2011.09-sun4i-20120808.img08-Aug-2012 02:40 162K |
| 18:55.13 | mnemoc | Turl: also, you may need to clear your old uboot env.... you may have one stored that doesn't load boot.scr |
| 18:55.31 | mnemoc | Turl: check if `printenv` talks about the .scr file |
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| 18:57.13 | Turl | I now added a uEnv.txt with extraargs=[stuff] and it loaded it |
| 18:58.05 | mnemoc | without a `printenv` and uboot's output it's hard to tell anything |
| 18:58.47 | Turl | mnemoc: also, I noticed the kernel serial output stalls after a panic |
| 18:59.07 | Turl | not right after, but after it reboots and then when it attempts to set up serial again or something, it stalls |
| 19:02.15 | Turl | mnemoc: printenv http://paste.debian.net/195032/ |
| 19:02.41 | Turl | mnemoc: hm well it stalls on normal reboots too |
| 19:02.43 | Turl | <6>Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 8 ports, IRQ sharing disabled |
| 19:02.43 | Turl | <6>serial8250.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x1c28000 (irq = 1) is a U6_16550A |
| 19:02.50 | Turl | and it's dead after that :( |
| 19:03.53 | mnemoc | 3.0? |
| 19:07.03 | Turl | yeah mnemoc |
| 19:07.52 | mnemoc | weird |
| 19:08.14 | mnemoc | 3.4 has kind of broken sunxi-8250, but 3.0 should do fine |
| 19:10.46 | Turl | the kernel doesn't like kexec :P |
| 19:12.10 | mnemoc | no comment |
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| 20:08.26 | vinix | can i to change "#undef DEBUG_SUN4I" by "#define DEBUG_SUN4I" into sun4i-gpio? |
| 20:09.25 | vinix | sun4i-gpio.c |
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| 20:32.01 | rm | hmm |
| 20:32.20 | rm | eBay Listing Removed: Smart Mini A10 Android 4.0 ROM 4GB Google TV Box + Companion Logitech Keyboard |
| 20:32.34 | rm | eBay nuked that one for some reason |
| 20:32.48 | rm | I wonder why, was that a scam or what |
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| 20:36.44 | plan_b | rm: did you try to get one? |
| 20:38.15 | rm | yes, I ordered one |
| 20:38.36 | mnemoc | ouch |
| 20:38.38 | rm | and the seller marked it as shipped, but with no tracking number despite promising one |
| 20:38.40 | ccssnet | http://atccss.net/index.php?p=4sale |
| 20:38.50 | ccssnet | anyone need anything on my 4sale list? |
| 20:40.11 | plan_b | rm: hope you will get it ... it would be a really good deal |
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| 20:41.00 | rm | at this point I'd be okay with just getting my money back :) |
| 20:41.20 | rm | rather than wait for a month for something w/o even a tracking number |
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| 20:47.35 | plan_b | rm: did you use paypal? |
| 20:47.46 | rm | yeah |
| 20:47.55 | rm | already opened a case on ebay |
| 20:48.08 | plan_b | good!!!! |
| 20:52.32 | plan_b | rm: the seller was: on-topfaith? |
| 20:56.16 | rm | there was this label on the pics |
| 20:56.30 | rm | but the actual username is xiaosomething101 |
| 20:57.01 | ManoftheSea | rm: I didn't think the A10 did 4 gb |
| 20:57.19 | ManoftheSea | or, was that the storage? |
| 20:57.22 | rm | 4GB ROM, it means the NAND size |
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| 21:43.46 | mmichal | hello |
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| 21:49.54 | mmichal | have you got any experience with A1000 and arm arch or debian |
| 21:51.06 | mmichal | i found some old post that it work unstable but i can't find if now they work properly |
| 21:52.04 | mnemoc | mmichal: WarheadsSE is the Arch guy here |
| 21:52.18 | WarheadsSE | hur? |
| 21:52.42 | mnemoc | that always work :p |
| 21:52.54 | WarheadsSE | Uh, http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/mele-a100 is pretty straight forward |
| 21:53.35 | WarheadsSE | btw mnemoc went to a newer kernel, still no worky on x11 in my repos.. |
| 21:53.43 | WarheadsSE | might need to try a clean image though |
| 21:54.09 | WarheadsSE | that SD is all kinds of screwed up because it was the development one. |
| 21:54.33 | mnemoc | with r2p4 mali? |
| 21:54.35 | WarheadsSE | mmichal: |
| 21:54.47 | WarheadsSE | Yeah, like I said though, it could just be screwy |
| 21:55.37 | mmichal | WarheadsSE: so make little nas isn't problem |
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| 21:57.15 | WarheadsSE | nope. as a no-display server it works great. |
| 21:59.24 | mnemoc | be sure to disable fb, ve and mali in the kernel to save some memory |
| 21:59.51 | WarheadsSE | I'd have to bundle up a non-gpu kernel |
| 22:00.04 | WarheadsSE | doesnt that work best with a tweaked uboot to? |
| 22:01.04 | mnemoc | it's the mach's core who makes the reserves |
| 22:01.19 | WarheadsSE | Yeah, it's been a while since I dug into all that :p |
| 22:01.54 | mnemoc | should be the drivers, but as the addresses are hardcoded we still need to reserve them even before the MMU is init'ed |
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| 22:03.10 | mnemoc | hope that will change soon |
| 22:03.18 | mnemoc | but now I'm going to sleep |
| 22:03.20 | mnemoc | good night! |
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| 22:06.13 | mmichal | sorry i lost my connection |
| 22:07.27 | WarheadsSE | happens |
| 22:07.37 | WarheadsSE | I'm just watching a kernel build anyways .. |
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| 22:08.36 | mmichal | so there are problems only with X. |
| 22:09.36 | WarheadsSE | yeah. I've had no other platform issues. |
| 22:11.17 | mmichal | and how many time can take make X, month year. |
| 22:13.45 | WarheadsSE | thats a question for the guys working on that driver |
| 22:14.01 | WarheadsSE | Once it is working, I can have it running in Arch quickly |
| 22:17.53 | WarheadsSE | I just havent had time to focus on the platform recently |
| 22:19.39 | mmichal | ok now i know that i can by it as my first arm board |
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| 22:23.20 | WarheadsSE | Sure |
| 22:23.29 | mmichal | and i hope it will be robust for my mistake |
| 22:23.37 | WarheadsSE | we also make sshd stock, so not a mssive problem |
| 22:27.14 | mmichal | i saw some "tutorials" how to install Linux on it and always system was no sd card |
| 22:27.51 | WarheadsSE | You could install to nand. If this is your first ARM though, I'd stay with the SD |
| 22:28.38 | mmichal | ok and then i always have android running when i eject sa card |
| 22:28.42 | mmichal | sd* |
| 22:28.48 | WarheadsSE | yes |
| 22:29.11 | WarheadsSE | See 'installation' here http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/mele-a100 |
| 22:38.27 | mmichal | thx for help and have a nice day/night or what ever what is behind the window. bye |
| 22:41.01 | Turl | WarheadsSE: how usable is arch linux arm? |
| 22:41.09 | WarheadsSE | "usable" |
| 22:41.11 | WarheadsSE | for what |
| 22:41.28 | WarheadsSE | The X11 drivers a a pain in my ass, but otherwise, its all linux |
| 22:41.35 | Turl | for stuff :P |
| 22:41.44 | Turl | yeah I don't care about X11 |
| 22:41.54 | Turl | my question was more aimed at software availability |
| 22:41.56 | WarheadsSE | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.15 | WarheadsSE | thats the upstream versus us % |
| 22:42.32 | Turl | upstream what, packages? |
| 22:42.36 | WarheadsSE | Arch |
| 22:42.46 | Turl | yeah but 4170 what? :) |
| 22:42.50 | WarheadsSE | Arch Linux ARM is not Arch :) |
| 22:42.58 | WarheadsSE | source PKGBUILDs |
| 22:43.12 | WarheadsSE | many of those become multiple packages |
| 22:44.56 | Turl | I have 1977 packages installed on my debian desktop heh :P |
| 22:45.15 | WarheadsSE | Ok, well, ask me the package and I'll tell you if it is live :p |
| 22:45.37 | Turl | htop? :P |
| 22:45.39 | Turl | that's a must |
| 22:45.50 | WarheadsSE | yes |
| 22:45.54 | Turl | CentOS doesn't even have it on x86/86_64 :P |
| 22:45.55 | WarheadsSE | and tree, strace, gdb, etc |
| 22:46.03 | Turl | iotop, iftop? |
| 22:46.36 | WarheadsSE | [armv7] iotop (0.4.4-3|0.4.4-3): repo=>community, src=>abs, state=>done |
| 22:46.44 | WarheadsSE | [armv7] iftop (0.17-10|0.17-10): repo=>community, src=>abs, state=>done |
| 22:46.48 | Turl | mpd? |
| 22:46.52 | WarheadsSE | yup |
| 22:46.56 | WarheadsSE | i had that on my pi |
| 22:47.01 | WarheadsSE | and tested it on the A10 |
| 22:47.04 | Turl | nfs support stuff? |
| 22:47.11 | WarheadsSE | yeah |
| 22:47.26 | WarheadsSE | those a pretty core packages |
| 22:47.41 | WarheadsSE | our kernel configs are on github |
| 22:47.55 | Turl | openvpn? |
| 22:48.24 | WarheadsSE | standard |
| 22:48.48 | Turl | that's pretty much all I use on it :) |
| 22:50.14 | WarheadsSE | then you're covered :p |
| 22:51.17 | Turl | the one time I tried arch on PC I had a bad experience |
| 22:51.25 | WarheadsSE | mm |
| 22:51.28 | Turl | but I have a friend who uses it and insists on how awesome it is |
| 22:51.33 | Turl | so I figured I'd try it again |
| 22:51.46 | WarheadsSE | well I've heard it referred to as binary gentoo |
| 22:52.04 | Turl | none of the speed, all of the headaches :P |
| 22:52.21 | WarheadsSE | lmao |
| 22:52.49 | WarheadsSE | We've not had any speed issues. And I certainly cant say that its _that_much more efficient these days |
| 22:52.59 | WarheadsSE | Especially @ the ARM level. |
| 22:54.00 | Turl | yeah, just saying that you don't get the "gentoo speed" because it's binary :P |
| 22:54.36 | WarheadsSE | eh.. |
| 22:55.04 | Turl | I know a couple of gentooers too, and they always claim their stuff is so much faster because they choose what's in and what's out |
| 22:55.19 | Turl | I don't think they gain so much speed as they claim though |
| 22:55.41 | WarheadsSE | well, knowing what you're doing on ARM, that's the way we work generally on Arch, then there is the cpu optimization |
| 22:58.42 | WarheadsSE | but we're not going to drop an ubuntu size roots on you |
| 22:59.24 | Turl | :P |
| 22:59.38 | Turl | I usually just debootstrap testing then install whatever I need |
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