| 00:01.14 | lundman | maybe lichee-3.0.8-sun4i is what I need |
| 00:02.21 | Turl | if you have the 'inetsoftware' kernel then it's not the same |
| 00:03.11 | lundman | amery git branch I was looking at |
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| 01:21.23 | lundman | wicked, my kernel appears the same as the boot.img, so we are good to go |
| 01:21.30 | A0Sheds | http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120618PD220.html Google, Asustek expected to unveil 7-inch Nexus tablet PC at Google I/O |
| 01:21.41 | A0Sheds | anyone hear which CPU it uses? 6^ |
| 01:22.09 | hipboi_ | tegra 3 |
| 01:23.19 | A0Sheds | thanks |
| 01:30.02 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: hipboi master * rc1f0a0394812 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10.mdwn: |
| 01:44.23 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r782ddb9ec0de /allwinner_a10/orders/ (6 files): order processing cleanup |
| 01:47.01 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rc3c6d3c6784b /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/android_ics.mdwn: whitespace cleanup |
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| 02:04.48 | lerc_ | The real question is does the Tegra 3 also have a sucky fill rate? (time will tell I guess) |
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| 02:19.04 | Turl | lerc_: fill rate? |
| 02:33.43 | lerc_ | Tegra 2 has a very poor fill rate. Would't surprise me if Tegra 3 isn't enough better. They can do a lot of triangles, but not many pixels. |
| 02:34.01 | Turl | ah, you're talking about gpu |
| 02:40.08 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Benj master * rb2af191720f3 /allwinner_a10/orders/bjs.mdwn: |
| 02:43.31 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: hipboi master * r42a9b1d76b3d /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10.mdwn: |
| 02:44.44 | steev | lerc_: at least they added neon this time around |
| 02:50.35 | lundman | hmm the size of the kernel does not bode well :) |
| 02:50.43 | lundman | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8410564 Jun 19 23:45 ../nandc-kernel |
| 02:50.45 | lundman | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3829960 Jun 20 02:49 arch/arm/boot/zImage |
| 02:50.53 | lundman | that's like half size |
| 02:51.58 | steev | how much have you built in? you can turn a lot of junk off |
| 02:53.44 | lundman | I used defsun4i so I assume the kernel would be close to theirs |
| 02:56.04 | lundman | ah yes, there are some non-compressed things after the kernel |
| 03:00.42 | Turl | besides they might be using bImages |
| 03:00.48 | Turl | aka arch/arm/boot/Image |
| 03:01.40 | lundman | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7636436 Jun 20 02:49 arch/arm/boot/Image |
| 03:01.43 | lundman | looks closer |
| 03:02.18 | lundman | identical header start |
| 03:02.38 | lundman | so, changes of my kernel booting? |
| 03:03.21 | steev | 50/50 |
| 03:03.32 | lundman | I like those odds |
| 03:03.54 | lundman | shame I can't tell it to boot just my kernel from uboot, then have it start the rest of android normally |
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| 03:16.30 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: hipboi master * r613e597216c3 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10.mdwn: |
| 03:18.26 | hipboi_ | i have created a page of mali x11 driver |
| 03:18.28 | hipboi_ | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10/ |
| 03:20.01 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: hipboi master * r4ebfe0788924 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10.mdwn: |
| 03:26.25 | lundman | bah damnit, my kernel has a "+" on the vermagic.. no idea where that is set |
| 03:29.59 | lundman | ah scripts/setlocalversion |
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| 04:04.58 | Hexxeh | anyone in here familiar with the eee transformer pad? |
| 04:07.23 | DonkeyHotei | it's a tegra i think |
| 04:08.33 | Hexxeh | sure, i was thinking the x11 hw accel more specifically |
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| 04:30.17 | t0dbld | what you want to know Hexxeh (about transformer |
| 04:30.38 | Hexxeh | what's the state of hw support? |
| 04:30.41 | Hexxeh | what's not supported? |
| 04:30.42 | Hexxeh | known issues etc |
| 04:30.55 | t0dbld | tf101 right ? |
| 04:31.14 | Hexxeh | yeah |
| 04:31.19 | Hexxeh | well both, but tf101 initially |
| 04:31.51 | t0dbld | well assuming thanks to a a bit lucky on the sbk nvflash is open so sky is limit |
| 04:32.00 | t0dbld | well that and nvidia normal issues |
| 04:32.40 | Hexxeh | normal nvidia issues? |
| 04:32.46 | Hexxeh | last time i looked at tegra was almost a year ago |
| 04:32.51 | Hexxeh | things kicked sucked then |
| 04:32.54 | Hexxeh | X ABI issues etc |
| 04:32.56 | t0dbld | there lack of support for there shit in linux |
| 04:33.16 | t0dbld | org tf101 is on ICS so right now its not to much of an issue |
| 04:34.03 | Hexxeh | so X accel works? sound? wifi? |
| 04:34.11 | t0dbld | on ICS yes |
| 04:34.23 | Hexxeh | on ICS? |
| 04:34.24 | t0dbld | i have not ran linux on it since android 4.0 |
| 04:34.31 | t0dbld | Ice cream sandwhich |
| 04:34.33 | Hexxeh | X on ICS? whut |
| 04:34.52 | t0dbld | harware acceleration |
| 04:34.57 | t0dbld | on X i dont know |
| 04:35.04 | t0dbld | i have not used linux on it it a while |
| 04:35.09 | t0dbld | i loaned it to mom ATM |
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| 04:36.16 | steev | lundman: you'll get a + if you've got stuff committed to git, easy way around it is to rename .git to something different |
| 04:36.21 | Hexxeh | hmm, there'll be someone in here who knows |
| 04:36.49 | t0dbld | if there is HW accel on x serv ? |
| 04:36.53 | t0dbld | my guess is no way |
| 04:37.07 | t0dbld | tf101 expert is in my channel but afk |
| 04:37.24 | t0dbld | ill ask him when he comes on and leave you a message if your not here |
| 04:37.37 | t0dbld | but hes the transformer expert |
| 04:37.42 | Hexxeh | who's that? |
| 04:37.48 | t0dbld | rayman |
| 04:37.52 | Hexxeh | i know RaYmAn is pretty well up |
| 04:37.53 | Hexxeh | ah yeah |
| 04:37.59 | Hexxeh | lilstevie too iic? |
| 04:38.07 | t0dbld | yeah he did alot |
| 04:38.24 | t0dbld | steve dont hang around in my channel though so i see him less :-) |
| 04:39.35 | t0dbld | anyhow if i had to guess if there was hw accel on X i would say no |
| 04:40.08 | Hexxeh | there was X accel like a year ago but it was poor/buggy |
| 04:40.11 | t0dbld | i mean linus himself a few days ago gave nvidia the middle finger for not helping and supporting linux even while they were pusing android so heavily |
| 04:40.13 | Hexxeh | and only for old X ABI |
| 04:40.20 | Hexxeh | sure but that was in response to optimus? |
| 04:40.32 | t0dbld | optimus ? |
| 04:41.13 | Hexxeh | some GPU switching thing |
| 04:42.03 | t0dbld | oh right anyhow , i cant say for sure the state of it because i have not tried in a few months and i dont have my device handy to check |
| 04:42.16 | t0dbld | i will ask around and if i find out state of it ill elt you know |
| 04:42.34 | Hexxeh | cheers |
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| 04:49.38 | t0dbld | is currently playing Diablo 3 only to get his $ spent per game hour played to an acceptable level after buying it .... beat twice in under 25 hours played is not very good for so a huge promised game |
| 04:49.57 | tallnerd1985 | Yeah, such a let down |
| 04:53.17 | t0dbld | started selling items on $$ auction today i figured every $ i get back is some time i dont have to play to make me feel better :-P |
| 04:53.35 | tallnerd1985 | I went back to Eve |
| 04:54.13 | t0dbld | i dont really play games any more i dont have time |
| 04:54.21 | t0dbld | that is why i am so mad i decided to try it |
| 04:54.36 | t0dbld | sjut cause i never played it since Diablo 1 in like what 1999 ? |
| 04:55.12 | tallnerd1985 | I think Blizzard played off our nostalgia of the originals to sell this one |
| 04:56.15 | t0dbld | tbo is was not the advertising or ny thing it was al lthe peole playing it the first week and reporting on G+ and twitter tha got me |
| 04:56.48 | t0dbld | i dont know how they could have been so posititve when i beat it first time after not playing a diablo since 1999 in 19 hours with out trying to go fast and exploring all of all the maps |
| 04:57.02 | tallnerd1985 | Yeah, all my coworkers suckered me into it |
| 04:57.46 | tallnerd1985 | Bastards!! |
| 05:05.48 | lundman | steev: ahh interesting |
| 05:05.59 | lundman | currently fighting module_layout |
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| 05:08.42 | lundman | maybe the answer is to build a insmod that ignores module_layout |
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| 05:19.33 | lundman | ugh, seem unable to get past the "module_layout" check |
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| 05:33.03 | rzk | lundman: I've tried to build a module for 3.0.8+ when sources wasnt available public. stuck at same point, theres no way to load a module if your "donor" kernel isnt close enough to "target" on device. |
| 05:34.36 | lundman | vermagic was annoying enough, and then they made it worse. linus needs to diiieee |
| 05:35.05 | lundman | I guess I just try to boot my kernel and hope its close enough (without modversioning) |
| 05:36.59 | rzk | I wonder why there is no tools for this. for example, analyzing kernel for needed module layout. |
| 05:39.32 | lundman | it doesn't even give any hints as to what needs to fixed |
| 05:39.48 | lundman | just "make it the same as kernel". Assuming everyone complies with GPL |
| 06:01.10 | hipboi_ | i found a x log of ux500 |
| 06:01.43 | hipboi_ | http://pastebin.com/CAXdYZaJ |
| 06:01.57 | hipboi_ | which is almost the same as my log on A10 |
| 06:10.22 | hipboi_ | this is my x log on A10 --> http://pastebin.com/t5CuanKp |
| 06:13.57 | specing | lundman: Linus never made it mandatory, you can easily turn it off in Kconfig |
| 06:14.58 | lundman | I can blame him if i want! |
| 06:17.48 | lundman | hmm it's as if I have too many modinfo in my .ko compared to working ones |
| 06:23.03 | lundman | ah MY modules have srcversion, theirs dont |
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| 06:41.38 | lundman | one step further |
| 06:41.40 | lundman | [101436.445167] spl: version magic '3.0.8 preempt mod_unload ARMv7 ' should be '3.0.8 preempt mod_unload modversions ARMv7 ' |
| 06:55.26 | specing | there is modprobe -f |
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| 07:04.34 | lundman | alas the modprobe with ICS4 does not have -f |
| 07:04.49 | specing | fail. |
| 07:04.59 | specing | failprobe |
| 07:05.17 | specing | crosscompile your own version |
| 07:05.26 | lundman | sure, that is an option too |
| 07:06.21 | lundman | I'm wondering if setting up a VM might be worth it, rather than compiling on the cubox for the mele |
| 07:11.12 | Mazon | lundman, how is the cubox compared to mele ? - was thinking of getting one because of the sata (though sata is shared with usb, I think?) |
| 07:11.56 | specing | lundman: qemu-chroot (binfmt wrapper) + distcc is quite fast |
| 07:12.21 | Mazon | hm, no - I was thinking about snowball that has sata over usb |
| 07:12.38 | Mazon | problem with cubox was the price :) |
| 07:14.07 | specing | I cross-compiled glibc on a 2.4GHz dual-core in about 4 hours |
| 07:14.29 | specing | with configure taking about an hour as I remember |
| 07:20.08 | lundman | bah, I might have to admit defeat |
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| 07:21.26 | specing | ;) |
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| 07:36.11 | hno | hipboi_, thanks for providing armhf mali libraries! |
| 07:36.41 | hipboi_ | hno: i think the mali x11 driver is working |
| 07:37.14 | hipboi_ | according to the irc chat log http://igloocommunity.org/irc/logs/igloo/%23igloo.2012-05-31.log.html |
| 07:37.29 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: oodudeoo master * r1435b3d9fadc /allwinner_a10/orders/____Quantity:_1_____Max_Unit_Price:___36__50_____Max_Budget:___36__50_____Contact:_ben_period_james_dot_smith_at_gmail_____Purpose:_tinkering_____Stage:_beta_or_stable_____Status:_preorder.mdwn: |
| 07:37.48 | hipboi_ | this is my log: http://pastebin.com/t5CuanKp |
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| 07:39.14 | hno | hipboi_, can you run glxgears with reasonable full-screen performance? |
| 07:39.37 | hipboi_ | i can not find the glxgears package |
| 07:39.47 | hipboi_ | i am looking for it now |
| 07:40.26 | hno | Euhm... [ 200.749] (II) MALI(0): Setting screen physical size to 270 x 158??? |
| 07:40.46 | hno | Ah, it resizes just after. |
| 07:40.59 | hipboi_ | yes, the log of ux500 http://pastebin.com/CAXdYZaJ |
| 07:41.47 | hno | hipboi_, on Fedora glxgears is in the glx-utils package. |
| 07:42.09 | mnemoc | armhf mali libraries? where? where? |
| 07:42.16 | hipboi_ | maybe it's the problem of my source list |
| 07:42.25 | hno | mnemoc, see wiki page hipboi_ created |
| 07:42.39 | hipboi_ | mnemoc: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10/ |
| 07:42.48 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 07:44.28 | RaYmAn | that's awesome :) |
| 07:44.31 | mnemoc | should I just import that patch into github? |
| 07:44.42 | hipboi_ | i am not sure |
| 07:44.44 | mnemoc | or there are reasons to not do so? |
| 07:44.45 | hno | Does it touch anything else? |
| 07:45.00 | mnemoc | 1m, haven't looked at it yet :p |
| 07:46.24 | RaYmAn | it looks relatively clean (though, not sure why it removes .config-based #ifdef's for DRM_MALI) |
| 07:46.25 | mnemoc | it only messes with sun4i-disp |
| 07:46.45 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Latheef master * r6e402ef48e72 /allwinner_a10/orders/latheefmalikayil.mdwn: |
| 07:46.57 | hipboi_ | if i don't remove the ifdef DRM_MALI |
| 07:47.12 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: I was wondering the same, but a unused platform-device stub like that doesn't hurt |
| 07:47.15 | hipboi_ | the mali_dri will not register |
| 07:47.21 | hno | looks reasonable to me. |
| 07:47.47 | hipboi_ | DRM_MALI can only be m |
| 07:48.50 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Latheef master * r4a7273dd8483 /allwinner_a10/orders/latheefmalikayil.mdwn: |
| 07:49.32 | hno | hipboi_, right.. that should be #if defined(CONFIG_MALI_DRM) || defined(CONFIG_MALI_DRM_MODULE) |
| 07:49.51 | hipboi_ | aha |
| 07:52.20 | hno | or we need to rework the kernel config to separate platform from driver, which I thing we should.. there is many reasons why one would want to enable the platform device but rather build the driver out-of-tree. |
| 07:52.38 | hno | s/thing/think/ |
| 07:52.49 | mnemoc | "[the mele a1000] kicks Raspberry PI in the ass so hard it's not even funny." <--- love this :D |
| 07:52.58 | hno | mnemoc, where? |
| 07:53.06 | mnemoc | http://lateral.netmanagers.com.ar/weblog/posts/the-raspberry-pi-sucks.html |
| 07:53.17 | hipboi_ | : D |
| 07:54.43 | mnemoc | hipboi_: do you push the patch (with the device-platform thing corrected) or I do it in your name? |
| 07:55.01 | hipboi_ | you can do it, please |
| 07:55.35 | mnemoc | ok |
| 07:55.46 | hno | and update wiki ;) |
| 07:56.30 | mnemoc | meh |
| 07:56.32 | mnemoc | :) |
| 07:58.01 | TomNL | guys does this mean we now have hw accellaration in x11? |
| 07:58.53 | zenitraM | woo, great news to wake up to \o/ |
| 07:59.06 | zenitraM | hipboi_, hno: glxgears seems to be at the mesa-utils package |
| 07:59.14 | lundman | ahh I'm learning something |
| 07:59.20 | lundman | # modprobe --dump-modversions sun4i-ir.ko |
| 07:59.21 | lundman | 0x0b11e775 module_layout |
| 07:59.24 | zenitraM | ...only compiled for amd64 and i386 |
| 08:00.10 | zenitraM | although the debian one is in armhf: http://packages.debian.org/en/sid/mesa-utils |
| 08:00.13 | zenitraM | it might work |
| 08:06.11 | mnemoc | hipboi_: hno: https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/commit/a7d0835bacb7c5abc0cc30b8c32437651c89b24d |
| 08:07.17 | hipboi_ | thanks, mnemoc |
| 08:08.42 | lundman | ok, finally I fooled the kernel to load the module |
| 08:09.02 | lundman | but I suspect the "lichee-3.0.8-sun4i" git branch is not at all the kernel used for ICS4 |
| 08:10.11 | mnemoc | lundman: that's what we got in Qware's release |
| 08:10.19 | mnemoc | + minor fixes |
| 08:10.55 | lundman | yeah but the missing symbols are concerning |
| 08:11.06 | mnemoc | uhm |
| 08:11.13 | RaYmAn | zenitraM: you really need an opengl ES 'glxgears' to test it though |
| 08:11.13 | lundman | so the kernels are vastly different |
| 08:11.25 | mnemoc | sure it's not just a .config issue? |
| 08:11.37 | lundman | i used the defsun4i or whatever the wiki said |
| 08:11.49 | mnemoc | for android use sun4i_crane_defconfig |
| 08:12.34 | zenitraM | lundman: sometimes if the kernel hasn't been compiled with that module enabled, it will throw a missing symbols error even if it's the same kernel |
| 08:13.26 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: going to post your breakout boards (and picking up my new usb book!) now :) |
| 08:13.30 | mnemoc | back in 30m |
| 08:14.24 | lundman | Unknown symbol kmalloc_caches register_sysctl_table inode_permission vfs_fsync proc_mkdir |
| 08:14.28 | lundman | some concerning ones :) |
| 08:14.37 | lundman | sun4i_crane_defconfig ? sigh, ok, trying that |
| 08:14.38 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: woo :D |
| 08:15.07 | mnemoc | fits perfectly in a CF box |
| 08:15.11 | RaYmAn | with this X11 development, it's even more important to get a damn custom kernel running on this mk802 :> |
| 08:15.14 | RaYmAn | heh, cool |
| 08:17.05 | hipboi_ | the mesa-utils package needs libglew |
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| 08:23.53 | RaYmAn | hipboi_: you could try something like this: http://wiki.maemo.org/SimpleGL_example (Simple OpenGL ES demo) |
| 08:24.15 | TomNL | will the A10 chip support wmv/divx/xvid besides h264? |
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| 08:25.40 | lundman | Depending on which player I use in ICS4, I can watch .avi |
| 08:26.01 | TomNL | thnx lundman |
| 08:26.17 | lundman | lemme check |
| 08:26.19 | hipboi_ | the default 2160p player can play any video |
| 08:27.33 | lundman | Robot.Chicken.S05E02.HDTV.XviD-2HD/robot.chicken.s05e02.hdtv.xvid-2hd.avi plays with MX Player OK |
| 08:27.59 | lundman | hipboi: the default 2160p only works for localStorage. never shows for any upnp/http playback |
| 08:28.04 | lundman | so its in fact, useless for me :) |
| 08:28.24 | TomNL | lundman: but is show the HW can decode the various formats |
| 08:28.27 | TomNL | right? |
| 08:28.36 | TomNL | *shows |
| 08:29.07 | lundman | dont know if the hardware handles the transport stream container. however, it plays at full framerate, so "it works" :) |
| 08:29.24 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Yann master * r114e5ee83da3 /allwinner_a10/orders/Yann27.mdwn: |
| 08:29.47 | lundman | and that is from inside .rar, llink will stream rar on the fly. but thats more of a host-side operation |
| 08:29.54 | lundman | I should compile llink for mele, why not |
| 08:30.43 | zenitraM | mxplayer supports hw playback at least on ICS |
| 08:30.57 | zenitraM | including http streaming |
| 08:31.29 | zenitraM | i've seen HDTV (DVB-T passed as-is over HTTP) with it and it plays fine and with HW accel |
| 08:38.45 | lundman | I have tried BSplayer, Dice, Mobo, MX, Tvd, some play avi, all play MKV |
| 08:39.00 | lundman | None play 10bit at full fps :) |
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| 08:39.53 | hipboi_ | glx runs at 27 fps |
| 08:40.00 | hipboi_ | what does that mean? |
| 08:40.10 | lundman | frames per second. |
| 08:40.12 | lundman | hides |
| 08:40.29 | hipboi_ | i mean the performance |
| 08:42.12 | RaYmAn | it sounds pretty bad tbh. |
| 08:42.22 | hipboi_ | i think it's software |
| 08:42.28 | hipboi_ | the mali is not running |
| 08:42.39 | RaYmAn | yeah. You probably need something made for OpenGL ES and not desktop OpenGL :) |
| 09:00.36 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: sent, I trust you'll make better use of it than what I did :) |
| 09:01.05 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: I'll do my best! :P |
| 09:02.09 | captainigloo | guys did you have OpenGLES acceleration working on mele a1000 ? |
| 09:02.20 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: great :) |
| 09:05.04 | mnemoc | captainigloo: seems so |
| 09:10.49 | captainigloo | i mean mali opengl es acceleration :) |
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| 09:11.29 | captainigloo | yesterday i built mali xorg driver but i need mali_drm in the kernel to start it |
| 09:11.34 | captainigloo | i'm rebuilding a kernel |
| 09:11.48 | captainigloo | i hope after that GL es acceleration will work in xorg |
| 09:12.20 | mnemoc | captainigloo: Tom fixed that this morning, and published armhf drivers |
| 09:12.35 | captainigloo | fixed what ? |
| 09:13.24 | captainigloo | and i'm using softfp :( |
| 09:13.54 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Alejandro master * re1ac82beb6f4 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10.mdwn: sun4i_fb_ump.patch applied |
| 09:14.02 | mnemoc | captainigloo: the drm/mali integration |
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| 09:14.20 | captainigloo | ah fine :) |
| 09:14.29 | hipboi_ | sadly |
| 09:14.38 | hipboi_ | the glmark score is 0 |
| 09:14.44 | mnemoc | eh? |
| 09:15.12 | mnemoc | meaning it doesn't work at all? |
| 09:16.01 | hipboi_ | yes |
| 09:16.27 | mnemoc | :( |
| 09:16.34 | hipboi_ | from the chatting log here: http://igloocommunity.org/irc/logs/igloo/%23igloo.2012-05-31.log.html |
| 09:16.52 | hipboi_ | that guy has the same problem with mali |
| 09:17.19 | hipboi_ | but he got FPS ~50 |
| 09:17.35 | hipboi_ | when running glmark2 |
| 09:19.18 | captainigloo | hipboi_: what's the version of worg driver ? i build the one released by arm |
| 09:19.30 | captainigloo | s/worg/xorg |
| 09:21.04 | hipboi_ | yes, i build from arm |
| 09:22.05 | captainigloo | ah directrly on the targer ok |
| 09:25.31 | hipboi_ | i wrote the whole process i done on the wiki |
| 09:27.07 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: hipboi master * r9a48f97e17b4 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10.mdwn: |
| 09:28.25 | mnemoc | hipboi_: OT: can you register sun3i and sun5i at http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/ too? |
| 09:28.39 | hipboi_ | sun5i is registered |
| 09:28.44 | hipboi_ | but sun3i not |
| 09:28.54 | mnemoc | oh, sun6i too! |
| 09:28.55 | mnemoc | :D |
| 09:31.17 | mnemoc | hipboi_: when you get a minute, please register sun3i too... to start reducing the diff |
| 09:31.27 | hipboi_ | ok |
| 09:32.29 | hipboi_ | i am going to have dinner first and will do that when i am back |
| 09:34.59 | mnemoc | awesome, bon appetit |
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| 10:48.22 | hipboi_ | mnemoc: sun3i registered |
| 10:51.27 | mnemoc | \o/ |
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| 12:51.22 | hp_ | http://gooseberry.atspace.co.uk/ |
| 12:51.42 | hp_ | http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/19/gooseberry-android-board-plans-to-sate-those-still-waiting-on-a/ |
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| 12:53.35 | hp_ | i think the pcb will cost them $25 a piece so they make $40 profit per board.. |
| 12:58.19 | cnxsoft | The things to increase memory available in Linux at http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/#index5h1 do not work for me. |
| 12:58.32 | cnxsoft | fbmem=1 has no effect |
| 12:59.23 | cnxsoft | and it's not possible to set the reserved memory via make manuconfig anymore: "System Type -> All winner system configure -> Memory reserved size in KB" is not available for sun4i and it's hardcoded in the source |
| 13:00.01 | cnxsoft | Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 loglevel=8 panic=10 rootwait fbmem=1 |
| 13:00.49 | cnxsoft | Memory Reserved(in bytes): |
| 13:00.49 | cnxsoft | [ 0.000000] SYS: 0x43000000, 0x00010000 |
| 13:00.49 | cnxsoft | [ 0.000000] LCD: 0x5a000000, 0x02000000 |
| 13:00.49 | cnxsoft | [ 0.000000] VE : 0x44000000, 0x05000000 |
| 13:02.47 | cnxsoft | It's possible to get rid of the LCD part (Franebuffer by settings disp_init_enable=0 in script.fex, but for VE it seems the source needs to be modified if we want to increase the Linux memory for server use. |
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| 13:17.21 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Jean-Luc_Aufranc master * rb9cfa6e6dc38 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: Update memory saving tips |
| 13:25.41 | cnxsoft | btw, what's the AllWinner A12 ? |
| 13:26.01 | cnxsoft | It's mentionned in the description in https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner |
| 13:26.34 | mnemoc | cnxsoft: disable CONFIG_VIDEO_DECODER_SUN4I |
| 13:27.12 | mnemoc | A12 is chip in between of A10 and A13, which has hdmi but not ethernet or sata |
| 13:27.50 | mnemoc | i've never seen it, but there a build scripts and defconfig-s for it |
| 13:28.01 | mnemoc | s/ a / are / |
| 13:28.49 | cnxsoft | ah yes, CONFIG_VIDEO_DECODER_SUN4I, I thought i disabled it already, but there is a pb with my script... That's why... |
| 13:29.24 | Mazon | for all of those comparing gooseberry price with ali, remember british vat + import tax |
| 13:32.15 | mnemoc | that's one of the very few things that keeps me away of the island |
| 13:34.40 | mnemoc | I'm just too used to buy online from outside the EU to tolerate the parcelforce mafia |
| 13:35.11 | xenoxaos | anyone know if the A10 sata port supports port multipliers? |
| 13:35.34 | mnemoc | it hardly supports itself |
| 13:35.40 | xenoxaos | lol |
| 13:35.45 | specing | hahah |
| 13:39.35 | mnemoc | but i'm sure it's a driver problem |
| 13:41.24 | mnemoc | known problems don't happen when using images made out of whatever closed repo mele uses |
| 13:42.07 | rm | got my mk802 \o/ |
| 13:42.17 | mnemoc | tomtop's? |
| 13:42.26 | rm | no |
| 13:42.45 | rm | the 'initial' one from Ali |
| 13:42.50 | rm | ordered a month ago |
| 13:42.59 | mnemoc | doh |
| 13:43.05 | rm | w00t, an european adapter |
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| 13:43.37 | rm | and A2000 also came \o/ |
| 13:44.53 | rm | btw the MK802 seller stated the product name and full price on the package |
| 13:45.09 | rm | not that it causes any problems for me, but it might for others |
| 13:45.15 | rm | and it's something I don't see often |
| 13:46.39 | rm | and a package from DX also came |
| 13:46.43 | rm | and another one from ali |
| 13:46.50 | mnemoc | http://www.priceangels.com/PW08-A10-Cortex-A8-1GHz-and-HD-video-2160P-codec-and-3D-graphic-accelerator-GPS-Car-Navigator-with-8GB-Memory-and-Europe-Area-Map-s755711.html |
| 13:47.02 | rm | is like a kid with his gifts under the new year tree :p |
| 13:47.54 | mnemoc | A10 + gps + fm.... first time I see that... |
| 13:48.52 | mnemoc | rm: start flashing your new mele with the ics image hipboi released |
| 13:48.58 | specing | It even has a FM transmitter! |
| 13:48.59 | mnemoc | it works great |
| 13:49.59 | rm | I don't care for ICS |
| 13:50.02 | rm | I will want Debian |
| 13:50.12 | mnemoc | :) |
| 13:50.29 | mnemoc | rm: we got armhf xorg drivers today |
| 13:50.30 | mnemoc | too |
| 13:50.44 | rm | yay |
| 13:51.21 | specing | Weren't they released with Snowball? |
| 13:57.14 | mnemoc | specing: but illegal to use on any other device... |
| 13:58.11 | mnemoc | specing: Tom's release is not restricted, and it's also a channel to get upgrades |
| 13:58.46 | mnemoc | now we only miss cedarx armhf libraries |
| 13:59.32 | mnemoc | the igloo release has very strict license terms |
| 14:04.20 | mnemoc | but also their driver was modified and needed some extra /dev/ nodes we don't have |
| 14:04.51 | Quarx | mnemoc: hello, found a loop in hdmi driver: http://epsy.ath.cx:888/paste/?551 |
| 14:06.26 | mnemoc | uhm... I remember a recent patch there |
| 14:08.29 | mnemoc | https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/commit/3cbf3af2ba89978255ad06b99c5d4172397cd407 |
| 14:09.57 | mnemoc | Quarx: can you check reverting it? and please file a ticket |
| 14:17.26 | Quarx | mnemoc: ok, i will make ticket, revert is not make any changes. |
| 14:20.32 | mnemoc | that's the only change we have done there, so the bug is inherited |
| 14:22.58 | mnemoc | unfortunatelly that code is pretty messy :( |
| 14:34.00 | A0Sheds | the ST Ericsson A9500 & A9540 are actually shipping. Dual cortex a9 1.85GHz + Mali, no onchip sata or ethernet |
| 14:34.19 | A0Sheds | http://www.stericsson.com/products/a9500-nova.jsp |
| 14:35.50 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Jean-Luc_Aufranc master * re59c63bdc90e /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: |
| 14:42.26 | libv | cnxsoft: stop editing the wiki! |
| 14:42.37 | libv | cnxsoft: it triggers my hilighter every time :) |
| 14:43.05 | mnemoc | Luc? |
| 14:43.12 | libv | yeah :) |
| 14:43.17 | mnemoc | :) |
| 14:43.21 | cnxsoft | ahhh |
| 14:43.50 | libv | this is the first time in a decade or so that this happens with my first name :) |
| 14:44.33 | rm | my 1680x1050 DVI display goes "Out of range" with MK802 |
| 14:44.37 | libv | i should probably add some rules to irssi to filter that one out though |
| 14:44.55 | mnemoc | Luc Luc Luc Luc |
| 14:45.08 | libv | mnemoc: now you have two people cursing :p |
| 14:45.52 | mnemoc | :) |
| 14:46.29 | libv | libva is also a troublesome one for me, i'm flattered that they named a video decoding acceleration library after me, but at some point the flattery becomes annoying ;) |
| 14:47.04 | mnemoc | ^^ |
| 14:49.37 | DonkeyHotei | i am in a channel where occasionally people are addressed by first name, but that is troublesome since several people are named Paul, and another has the string "paul" within his nick and his name is not Paul |
| 14:52.51 | libv | DonkeyHotei: :) |
| 14:56.16 | specing | joins forces with mnemoc: Luc Luc Luc :) |
| 14:56.43 | libv | /ignores mnemoc and specing |
| 14:56.50 | mnemoc | :( |
| 14:56.53 | rm | mk802 is crazy hot |
| 14:56.59 | libv | :) |
| 14:57.19 | mnemoc | in the factory video they show the new case, with ventilation holes |
| 14:58.12 | rm | Android 4.0 looks not too shabby at all |
| 14:58.21 | rm | certainly better than 2.3 |
| 14:58.54 | zenitraM | the wizards on ICS no longer refer to the device as "your phone", but as "your tablet"... |
| 14:59.10 | rm | here I have "About mini PC" |
| 14:59.20 | rm | not the usual "About phone, herp derp" |
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| 15:21.01 | cnxsoft | rm: It's hot? That must be why the new casing for MK802 will have ventilation holes. |
| 15:22.47 | mnemoc | punch your own :p |
| 15:24.09 | rm | yes it is hot |
| 15:24.26 | rm | in some areas a finger almost can't tolerate the temperature |
| 15:25.04 | rm | unrelated: gosh, I wish we skipped HDMI and went straight to DisplayPort |
| 15:25.27 | mnemoc | very odd, my A10 devices tend to be pretty cold when connected to the tv |
| 15:25.45 | mnemoc | fishy tv dongle wannabe |
| 15:26.48 | mnemoc | rm: you can raise the topic on the ML list |
| 15:27.24 | rm | which one is the mail list for the computer industrly? :) |
| 15:27.30 | rm | stry* |
| 15:28.20 | mnemoc | it was just for the sake of an open discussion |
| 15:28.28 | rm | I am trying to utilize several HDMI inputs and one HDMI output via my Yamaha receiver |
| 15:28.56 | rm | sadly the PC (ATI Catalyst drivers) becomes a sad panda when it's not the one that is selected as the current source |
| 15:29.14 | rm | and starts to flash the second monitor every second, reinitializing the displays or something |
| 15:51.30 | rm | okay, now with the Mele... |
| 15:51.48 | rm | the VGA output just did not work ("Analog - no signal") |
| 15:52.04 | rm | with digital, the monitor says "Out of range - 183 Hz" |
| 15:52.16 | rm | s/digital/HDMI-to-DVI/ |
| 15:52.48 | libv | 183Hz vertical does seem very steep |
| 15:53.15 | rm | awesome cloud wallpaper thingie by default |
| 15:53.29 | traeak | to jump in...one of the firmware configuration files has the resolution support? |
| 15:53.37 | traeak | by default i get 720p that's it |
| 15:53.50 | mnemoc | can you kidnap the .apk? I want to use it in my ICS/mele |
| 15:54.27 | mnemoc | in android you can change the hdmi output in settings/screen |
| 15:54.42 | rm | at the moment it's all in Chinese |
| 15:54.53 | mnemoc | well... changed the language |
| 15:54.54 | rm | I'm trying to locate the language settings menu |
| 15:55.11 | mnemoc | the icon is [A...] |
| 15:55.15 | mnemoc | then the first option |
| 15:55.15 | rm | found it |
| 15:55.51 | mnemoc | changing the language in 2.3 was VERY frustrating |
| 15:56.18 | rm | it was "gearbox -> Droid icon -> somethingsomething言something |
| 15:56.38 | mnemoc | yes |
| 15:56.45 | mnemoc | in ics is easier |
| 15:56.56 | mnemoc | but please backup the apk of the clouds before upgrading |
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| 15:57.14 | rm | and then the first option gives it away by having ä¸å›½ |
| 15:57.15 | t0dbld | hay Hexxeh you around ? |
| 15:57.22 | rm | I only know a little bit of japanese |
| 15:57.53 | mnemoc | that's an advantage i didn't have |
| 15:58.38 | rm | mnemoc, |
| 15:58.46 | rm | try opening an android Market |
| 15:58.51 | rm | and look for "Blue Skies Free" |
| 15:58.59 | rm | I think it's the thing |
| 16:00.46 | mnemoc | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fishnoodle.clouds_free ... yes, nice |
| 16:01.37 | mnemoc | i wouldn't try to use on a battery-based device, but on the mele it feels... perfect |
| 16:02.41 | specing | heh |
| 16:03.49 | zenitraM | this launcher > everything |
| 16:03.50 | zenitraM | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tf.XPMod |
| 16:06.27 | mnemoc | o_O |
| 16:13.05 | rell01 | hi there |
| 16:13.49 | rell01 | anybody else with wlan issues on the mele with tom's newest ics? |
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| 16:19.56 | rm | http://www.linuxnewshere.com/index.php/miniand-the-mk802-running-ubuntu-lubuntu-and-xubuntu |
| 16:20.02 | rm | this is what I am going to try, I think |
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| 16:27.37 | mnemoc | It's so annoying you can't buy apps (gift) for another account... |
| 16:27.55 | mnemoc | I don't want to add my account to every single android device my family owns :< |
| 16:28.21 | mnemoc | but I'm the only with credit card :| |
| 16:30.05 | mnemoc | I wanted to install the paid version of that blue skies, and the storm version... but can't without adding my account there :| |
| 16:30.09 | mnemoc | sucks |
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| 16:38.44 | zenitraM | create an account for the sole purpose of family app-buying linked to a prepaid credit card |
| 16:39.32 | mnemoc | no name-validation on those? |
| 16:40.02 | xenoxaos | or link to CC, then report it lost/stolen |
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| 16:40.27 | eFfeM | hi all |
| 16:40.38 | zenitraM | name-validation? |
| 16:41.53 | mnemoc | afaik online transactions need to get other info validated to get accepted beside the 3 digits thing |
| 16:41.57 | rm | I wonder if we're going to see an MK802-style device directly from Google |
| 16:42.19 | mnemoc | google io is comming |
| 16:42.21 | rm | or from some big name like I dunno ASUS or Toshiba or Lenovo |
| 16:42.39 | mnemoc | but I wouldn't expect any big brand to make a dongle computer |
| 16:42.49 | zenitraM | then put your name |
| 16:42.53 | mnemoc | :) |
| 16:42.58 | mnemoc | true |
| 16:43.10 | mnemoc | I'll make a dummy account with my name |
| 16:43.29 | zenitraM | the prepaid part is to avoid "accidental" hello-kitty-background-buying |
| 16:43.48 | rm | linux is just wow |
| 16:43.55 | rm | dd if=image of=sdcard |
| 16:44.02 | rm | "whoops, made a mistake". Ctrl-C |
| 16:44.19 | mnemoc | got one of those on facebook.... when you use paypal there once the assume you authorize any future transaction blindly |
| 16:44.25 | rm | ^C appears in the terminal. Nothing else happens |
| 16:44.32 | rm | SD card still being written to |
| 16:44.40 | rm | and it's like that for the past ~5 minutes |
| 16:44.49 | mnemoc | ctrl-z |
| 16:44.53 | mnemoc | kill %1 |
| 16:45.07 | rm | educated guess: the whole 4GB image got submitted into the write buffers |
| 16:45.12 | zenitraM | you have a slow card |
| 16:45.16 | rm | yes I do |
| 16:45.17 | zenitraM | yup that's probably what happened |
| 16:45.37 | zenitraM | i think there's a "sync" option on dd which skips buffers |
| 16:45.39 | rm | helps that I have 16 GB of RAM here |
| 16:45.44 | rm | still, one would expect ctrl-C to work |
| 16:45.56 | mnemoc | 16GB and crappy SD, come on |
| 16:46.12 | TomNL | Gus did anyone get the opengles running on ubuntu? |
| 16:46.25 | zenitraM | i have 8 gb and can count 5 class2-4 microSDs on top of my table |
| 16:46.41 | rm | I have class 4 of 4 and 8 GB |
| 16:46.45 | rm | and a 32GB microSD |
| 16:46.55 | mnemoc | class 2? :p |
| 16:47.14 | rm | *checked* no, class 4 too :) |
| 16:47.15 | zenitraM | well, actually they have no class at all |
| 16:47.50 | zenitraM | and half of them i've actually found them on the street |
| 16:48.04 | rm | I figure I'll use what I have until a slowness inconveniences me and it can be traced down to SD card |
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| 16:48.29 | rm | besides, I have a feeling that all those SD cards when used as a root FS of a GNU/Linux system |
| 16:48.40 | rm | are going to be something close to an expendable product |
| 16:49.08 | zenitraM | that's what sata is for |
| 16:49.13 | mnemoc | zenitraM: btw, did you receive the cards from ooferton? |
| 16:49.24 | zenitraM | mnemoc: not yet, and you? |
| 16:49.28 | mnemoc | neither |
| 16:49.44 | mnemoc | and just noticed it's another brand of the groupon scammers |
| 16:52.22 | zenitraM | great, i don't know what is my password and there's not any submit button on the "remember my password" page |
| 16:53.17 | mnemoc | I get the POST sent, but back to the same page and no mail at all |
| 16:53.37 | zenitraM | i don't think i even set a password |
| 16:54.00 | rm | the glossy parts of the Mele are a dust magnet :/ |
| 16:59.50 | traeak | rm: you kept the case on? |
| 17:00.52 | traeak | for now i have /home on a sata drive and all the distro packages there as well |
| 17:01.00 | traeak | the mele's sata thorughput is really good |
| 17:01.10 | traeak | i tried a 1TB samsung drive but it didnt' have enough power to operate correctly |
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| 17:01.27 | traeak | the samsung drive gets ~110MB/s sustained on my lappy |
| 17:01.47 | zenitraM | if you use external power it should work |
| 17:02.43 | traeak | how to get external poer to the dock? |
| 17:02.44 | traeak | anyways |
| 17:02.57 | traeak | looks like the last mele kernel dropped my sata (grr) |
| 17:04.18 | zenitraM | mmm using a proper sata cable to the motherboard |
| 17:04.34 | traeak | you got one handy? :-p |
| 17:04.54 | traeak | i'm not that motivated since this is a side project, not my main one |
| 17:05.30 | zenitraM | http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-to-IDE-SATA-Cable-with-Power-Adapter-FOR-DVD-NOTEBOOK-LAPTOP-HDD-/280904294784?pt=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item4167336180 this has everything you need, plus a bonus usb-to-ide adapter :P |
| 17:06.16 | zenitraM | someone in forocoches wonders if a sata dvd burner would work on linux... |
| 17:06.24 | zenitraM | i wouldn't waste dvds trying |
| 17:07.56 | rm | i wouldn't waste dvds, period |
| 17:08.18 | rm | or waste time, writing them (anymore) |
| 17:11.53 | xenoxaos | who uses dvds anymore? |
| 17:12.49 | zenitraM | i use them for the sole purpose of booting linux on my macbook |
| 17:13.00 | zenitraM | which is nearly impossible to boot from usb due to the friggin' unstandard EFI |
| 17:13.29 | traeak | what are dvds? |
| 17:14.09 | RaYmAn | zenitraM: http://refit.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 17:14.13 | traeak | zenitraM: all the other sata drives i tried worked fine in the mele |
| 17:14.27 | traeak | zenitraM: so i'm not going to kill myself just to benchmark my fastest 2.5" sata drive :-p |
| 17:15.20 | zenitraM | RaYmAn: yup, but grub on EFI has several problems, so i just use BIOS grub over BIOS emulation mode |
| 17:15.30 | zenitraM | and BIOS emulation mode won't boot from USB |
| 17:17.26 | rm | is there a way to install e.g. Debian to internal flash? |
| 17:17.34 | rm | or no one does that to not wear it out? |
| 17:17.53 | traeak | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/3385 |
| 17:18.04 | traeak | this posting is pretty interesting |
| 17:18.07 | traeak | more vaporware |
| 17:21.16 | mnemoc | zenitraM: shared account worked. you can use a different card holder name and set a pin to protect from unexpected purchases... specially since they now allow you to rent movies at absurdly high prices |
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| 17:58.37 | traeak | mnemoc: which branch are you working on nowadays? |
| 17:58.48 | traeak | the current branch seems to fail to build a few things |
| 18:03.47 | mnemoc | traeak: 3.0-v2 is sort of fixes-only while I work on 3.3 |
| 18:03.56 | mnemoc | traeak: what fails to build? |
| 18:05.01 | traeak | cp: cannot stat ‘drivers/ata/sw_ahci_platform.ko’: No such file or directory |
| 18:05.13 | traeak | during modules build a ton of stuff blows out |
| 18:05.15 | traeak | that's just one sample |
| 18:05.23 | mnemoc | o_O |
| 18:05.41 | traeak | could be modules_install is hosed |
| 18:05.47 | traeak | ring a bell atall? |
| 18:06.00 | RaYmAn | that sounds surprisingly non-arm like error :P |
| 18:06.18 | traeak | ERROR: "ump_dd_secure_id_get" [drivers/video/sun4i/disp/disp.ko] undefined! |
| 18:06.53 | mnemoc | traeak: very strange, I build 3.0-v2 for every _defconfig we have after every commit |
| 18:07.00 | mnemoc | traeak: how are you building it? |
| 18:07.10 | traeak | mnemoc: well i had to disable the MALI part of the drivers |
| 18:07.14 | traeak | perhaps that's where my grief is |
| 18:07.44 | traeak | so a newer requirement is i have to download and drop the mali stuff somewhere? |
| 18:08.05 | mnemoc | no... mali is built as part of the normal `make modules` cycle |
| 18:08.29 | mnemoc | and it's perfectly fine to disable it |
| 18:08.34 | traeak | that was failing as well |
| 18:08.40 | traeak | okay time to back up then i'll come back again :-p |
| 18:09.03 | traeak | arch/arm/configs/sun4i_defconfig <- using that one |
| 18:09.56 | mnemoc | can you double check what branch you are using and that you are in sync with the repo? |
| 18:10.09 | traeak | i pulled the repo from scratch |
| 18:10.14 | mnemoc | what repo? |
| 18:11.45 | mnemoc | and how are you building it exactly? |
| 18:12.05 | traeak | allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 |
| 18:12.07 | traeak | i'm on this branch |
| 18:12.15 | mnemoc | from what repo? |
| 18:12.23 | traeak | yeah...trying to figure out the git command to show that |
| 18:12.32 | mnemoc | git remote -v |
| 18:12.47 | mnemoc | or cat .git/config |
| 18:12.47 | traeak | git://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner |
| 18:13.00 | mnemoc | ok, that's good |
| 18:13.04 | mnemoc | then what do you do? |
| 18:13.14 | traeak | mind you, using gcc-4.7 |
| 18:13.26 | traeak | cp arch/arm/configs/sun4i_defconfig .config |
| 18:13.28 | traeak | somethign like that |
| 18:13.40 | traeak | make -j8 ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-eabi- modules uImage |
| 18:13.45 | traeak | my compiler is configured a bit different |
| 18:14.55 | traeak | and now..trying to figure out how to make the kernel makefiles be more verbose |
| 18:15.02 | mnemoc | V=1 |
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| 18:15.42 | traeak | yuk that's too verbose ...wait one |
| 18:16.01 | mnemoc | very strange, looks fine. I normally build using O= .... I'll make a new build without O= just in case |
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| 18:16.58 | mnemoc | traeak: please make ... 2>&1 | tee build.out and post it |
| 18:17.20 | traeak | mnemoc: looks like the path is getting clobbered or something... |
| 18:21.49 | mnemoc | traeak: just made a fresh: `make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- sun4i_defconfig` `make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- -j16 uImage modules` on 3.0-v2 and finished without any problem |
| 18:22.18 | mnemoc | I thought it could be related to O= but isn't |
| 18:23.19 | traeak | -DSVN_REV=Unversioned directory -DSVN_REV_STRING=\"Unversioned directory\" |
| 18:23.32 | traeak | it's related to the quoting being screwed up |
| 18:23.55 | mnemoc | aha! steev had the same problem |
| 18:24.07 | mnemoc | he had something evil in his env |
| 18:24.13 | mnemoc | steev: ---^ |
| 18:25.50 | traeak | oh nice...why did that pop up just recently? |
| 18:25.57 | traeak | ie: building last week was no issue |
| 18:26.19 | mnemoc | something changed in your env just recently |
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| 18:26.33 | mnemoc | he had that problem over a month ago |
| 18:26.51 | mnemoc | same thing with -DSVN_REV yuck yuck |
| 18:26.54 | traeak | lovely...could be related to a reboot i did |
| 18:27.04 | traeak | is that even supposed to show up? |
| 18:27.22 | mnemoc | not that I'm aware |
| 18:27.46 | mnemoc | your env is making the build system do something naughty |
| 18:27.56 | traeak | cleaning up some old cruft ATM |
| 18:28.08 | mnemoc | env - make ... :) |
| 18:28.11 | traeak | i have to reboot anyways...kernel update caught me again |
| 18:28.43 | traeak | hehe, a bit extreme |
| 18:28.48 | mnemoc | :) |
| 18:31.11 | traeak | interesting the failures are pretty much local to the sun4i specific stuff |
| 18:33.14 | mnemoc | drivers/gpu/mali/mali/Kbuild:DEFINES += -DSVN_REV_STRING=\"$(SVN_REV)\" |
| 18:33.46 | steev | traeak: move svnversion out of the way |
| 18:34.14 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.15 | steev | Unversioned directory |
| 18:34.52 | mnemoc | I suppose we should patch that away... |
| 18:35.25 | traeak | where's svnversion? |
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| 18:36.09 | traeak | ahh so /usr/bin/svnversion is causing fun...version collision, etc |
| 18:37.08 | steev | mnemoc: we really should, it should default to a version string, since we're not getting updates from svn |
| 18:39.10 | mnemoc | SVN_REV := $(MALI_RELEASE_NAME) ? |
| 18:39.31 | mnemoc | see drivers/gpu/mali/mali/Makefile.common |
| 18:40.13 | traeak | well it's in bad form to rely on subversion when using git for the repo |
| 18:40.33 | mnemoc | ARM is both amazing and retard :| |
| 18:41.39 | mnemoc | traeak: can you cut out from drivers/gpu/mali/mali/Makefile.common the SVN_REV := voodoo ? |
| 18:41.53 | mnemoc | same from drivers/gpu/mali/ump/Makefile.common |
| 18:43.04 | mnemoc | and leave only SVN_REV := $(MALI_RELEASE_NAME) |
| 18:43.09 | traeak | sure |
| 18:44.50 | traeak | ahh much better |
| 18:44.58 | traeak | and then the fun of making a patch again (shoudl ahve documnted that b4) |
| 18:45.01 | mnemoc | why are days this short? snif snif snif |
| 18:47.44 | mnemoc | traeak: I don't need a pull request, a ticket with a link to download files generated by `git-format-patch` is even better for me |
| 18:48.34 | traeak | ahh good |
| 18:48.41 | traeak | so properly document it |
| 18:51.26 | mnemoc | just make the commit and call `git format-patch` |
| 18:54.39 | rm | the ubuntu image boots on mk802, but it's armel and uses fbdev |
| 18:54.45 | rm | and it's ubuntu |
| 18:56.59 | traeak | armel? don't they have armv7 binaries? |
| 18:57.37 | rm | > mele_debian_armhf_minimal.cpio.gz |
| 18:57.40 | rm | this sounds awesome |
| 18:58.10 | rm | traeak, not sure how do I check for that, I looked up the architecture and it was armel |
| 19:00.23 | traeak | what's sad is that researching git it doesn't support our way of doing code development/product management |
| 19:01.07 | mnemoc | "our way" been? |
| 19:02.36 | traeak | heavy use of cvs ampersand modules |
| 19:02.47 | traeak | we have multiple products spun from module subsets in the repository |
| 19:03.00 | traeak | our hierarchy is entirely flat |
| 19:03.16 | mnemoc | git submodules is one way, but the parent is linked to an exact commit for each child |
| 19:03.24 | mnemoc | another is `repo` |
| 19:03.27 | traeak | yup |
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| 19:03.39 | traeak | we tried subversion externals and taht was epic fail |
| 19:03.51 | traeak | it seems that git isn't much different |
| 19:03.59 | mnemoc | try repo, the manifests are quite powerful |
| 19:05.55 | traeak | and trying to figure out how to make a patch is fun |
| 19:06.19 | traeak | ie i used -am on the commit and seems to be irritatin |
| 19:06.26 | traeak | git show <hex id> works fine |
| 19:08.44 | mnemoc | traeak: git format-patch |
| 19:09.14 | traeak | shows nothing :-p |
| 19:09.24 | mnemoc | tried the man page? :) |
| 19:09.42 | traeak | ie: something is strange about what my current branch context is, etc |
| 19:09.44 | mnemoc | it needs the "since" |
| 19:10.36 | mnemoc | it will generate one .patch for each commit |
| 19:11.05 | traeak | seems liek "repo" might work but i really really dislike over engineered solutions |
| 19:11.17 | traeak | why didn't someone just take cvs and fix the file/directory rename stuff ? |
| 19:11.18 | traeak | hehe |
| 19:11.25 | traeak | and of course add a remote layer to it |
| 19:11.36 | traeak | trying to figure out what "since" means is all |
| 19:11.37 | mnemoc | traeak: isnt' that `svn` ? |
| 19:11.52 | traeak | umm nop |
| 19:12.04 | mnemoc | try HEAD^ |
| 19:12.24 | traeak | okay |
| 19:12.28 | traeak | a nice keyword |
| 19:12.40 | mnemoc | ^ means "one before" |
| 19:12.53 | mnemoc | so you don't need to care about the hash |
| 19:13.00 | traeak | i'm not looking at the right internet pages |
| 19:13.31 | mnemoc | http://git-scm.com/book |
| 19:13.39 | mnemoc | I have it on paper, awesome book |
| 19:13.46 | mnemoc | but freely readable online |
| 19:15.17 | traeak | looks like repo would have to be the solution |
| 19:15.48 | steev | mnemoc: ^ is one of my favorites |
| 19:16.11 | steev | git format-patch -o patches committish^..committish = just the commitish you want as a patch |
| 19:16.26 | traeak | one bad problem...we have 106 library modules |
| 19:16.28 | mnemoc | :) |
| 19:16.49 | mnemoc | traeak: repo doesn't have troubles managing 106 library modules |
| 19:17.23 | steev | repo is just a git frontend |
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| 19:18.34 | mnemoc | sad the git developers insist in not allowing submodules to be defined by branch instead of commit |
| 19:22.39 | mnemoc | they claim it doesn't make sense... |
| 19:22.44 | sepp | the ebook version of that book looks really good on my epaper device |
| 19:23.35 | sepp | eink ... |
| 19:25.09 | mnemoc | I didn't know they give away the ebooks too now |
| 19:25.35 | mnemoc | but I prefer to read from dead trees anyway |
| 19:27.18 | mnemoc | traeak: commit pushed |
| 19:27.42 | sepp | that git books looks readable on an 7" device unlike 99.9% of normal tech books |
| 19:27.48 | specing | kills a tree for the sake of git |
| 19:28.14 | specing | sepp: Do you have git installed on that "epaper device", too? |
| 19:28.36 | sepp | not yet :p |
| 19:28.57 | specing | I think I have it |
| 19:29.34 | sepp | but i guess with "books" you get no git installed either |
| 19:29.39 | sepp | in the book ... |
| 19:31.08 | specing | yep I have it |
| 19:31.26 | sepp | hehe |
| 19:32.17 | specing | Hehe ;) |
| 19:32.30 | specing | I also have GCC and everything else that comes with Gentoo :) |
| 19:33.08 | sepp | i actually read a lot of novels on mine |
| 19:33.49 | mnemoc | libv: btw, this post might be interesting to you: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/3351 |
| 19:33.53 | specing | We'll I've had bad experience with reading on screens |
| 19:34.12 | specing | My eyes start to hurt after half an hour |
| 19:34.39 | specing | Maybe it is the black-on-white that is bothering me |
| 19:35.13 | specing | My terminal is set for grey on darker grey |
| 19:39.46 | specing | I really dislike having big contrast |
| 19:40.35 | mnemoc | I can't see with low contrast, grey over black works great for me... on terminals. |
| 19:41.29 | specing | Well I guess I just have young eyes :) |
| 19:41.49 | mnemoc | :) |
| 19:42.25 | specing | I've been working with computers for >10 years now and I still have perfect vision |
| 19:47.59 | mnemoc | I started programming at 7. got glasses at 23, and now been 34 I have serious troubles with contrast :< |
| 19:48.35 | mnemoc | but I pass over 15h a day in front of two screens |
| 19:50.45 | mnemoc | I think I'm lucky, I should have much worth sight than what I have |
| 19:56.29 | sepp | the molenoc :p |
| 19:56.52 | sepp | molemoc |
| 19:58.15 | zenitraM | mmm, i remade from scratch an ubuntu armhf sd card |
| 19:58.33 | zenitraM | but it's getting stuck at boot, with the last output being: |
| 19:58.36 | zenitraM | <6>Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 8 ports, IRQ sharing disabled |
| 19:58.36 | zenitraM | <6>serial8250.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x1c28000 (irq = 1) is a U6_16550A |
| 19:59.05 | mnemoc | zenitraM: console=ttyS0 and ubuntu configured to run getty on it? |
| 20:00.02 | zenitraM | yes to the first and i'd say yes to the second too.. but shouldn't there be more log messages after that one? |
| 20:00.08 | zenitraM | i.e i see nothing regardin mmc |
| 20:00.20 | zenitraM | i have loglevel=8 |
| 20:00.37 | traeak | git reset --hard should do it then i guess |
| 20:01.13 | zenitraM | i'm on last allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 i think... let's try |
| 20:01.18 | traeak | ahh nice, fully working mele again |
| 20:02.58 | traeak | interesting..any changes went off to the sata subsystem |
| 20:03.06 | traeak | seems like i lost quite a bit of throughput |
| 20:03.23 | mnemoc | nothing |
| 20:05.20 | traeak | running hdparm i notice the "cached reads" is down from ~250MB/s to 36MB/s |
| 20:05.28 | traeak | means the interface throughput may have dropped |
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| 20:05.46 | libv | mnemoc: thanks |
| 20:07.41 | mnemoc | traeak: i'm clueless, nothing has been done in the 3.0-v2 branch regarding sata, or ira handling or dma at all |
| 20:08.11 | mnemoc | traeak: but just for the sake of testing, try lichee-3.0.8-sun4i |
| 20:09.53 | mnemoc | zenitraM: this is my cmdline, console=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait init=/sbin/init loglevel=8 earlyprintk mac_addr=00:CE:39:B6:63:F8 |
| 20:10.16 | mnemoc | zenitraM: I'll test a fresh 3.0-v2 now, I usually only boot 3.3 |
| 20:10.48 | zenitraM | mm let me try, just configured getty a different way |
| 20:13.09 | mnemoc | /etc/init/ttyS0.conf:10:exec /sbin/getty -L 115200 ttyS0 vt102 |
| 20:13.13 | mnemoc | zenitraM: ----^ |
| 20:13.32 | zenitraM | i did that |
| 20:16.56 | zenitraM | okay, nvm |
| 20:17.02 | zenitraM | seems it was something with the script.bin |
| 20:19.38 | mnemoc | I'm use the stock's mele one |
| 20:19.43 | mnemoc | using* |
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| 20:20.27 | RaYmAn | anyone experienced broken colors on one of these a10 devices when using a hdmi->dvi passive converter? :P Like, everything is pink. |
| 20:20.54 | eFfeM | just tried the 12.04 image, from sd it is slow |
| 20:21.09 | eFfeM | and the linaro background is outright ugly |
| 20:21.32 | eFfeM | guess it is time to add serial so I can tell u-boot to boot from hd |
| 20:23.26 | traeak | mnemoc: one more test |
| 20:25.16 | traeak | stupoid me i should have properly snapshotted |
| 20:25.23 | traeak | duhh...i have my backup sd card |
| 20:25.37 | traeak | IF it has the right stuff (grr) |
| 20:28.16 | mnemoc | zenitraM: http://pastie.org/4122542 <--- my output of a fresh sun4i_defconfig on 3.0-v2 |
| 20:28.28 | Hexxeh | t0dbld: i am now |
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| 20:36.53 | Mazon | lundman: you have both mele and cubox, right ? - which do you prefer, and why ? |
| 20:38.25 | t0dbld | Hexxeh, did you get the memo serv message ? |
| 20:38.32 | Hexxeh | t0dbld: no? |
| 20:38.51 | Hexxeh | as it turns out |
| 20:38.56 | Hexxeh | what i've actually gotten today is a transformer prime |
| 20:39.01 | Hexxeh | which is a different kettle of fish |
| 20:39.07 | t0dbld | issue is same |
| 20:39.13 | t0dbld | for both |
| 20:39.15 | Hexxeh | okay |
| 20:39.17 | RaYmAn | Hexxeh: np, look at my 3.1 kernel for that ;) |
| 20:39.23 | Hexxeh | RaYmAn: oh hello |
| 20:39.28 | t0dbld | ahh there he is |
| 20:39.31 | Hexxeh | mind bringing me up to speed on where stuff is and what state we're in? |
| 20:39.33 | RaYmAn | it works with X11 drivers from nvidia, both normal and hardfp |
| 20:39.42 | Hexxeh | i've got a week to kill on this thing :P |
| 20:39.45 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 20:39.58 | t0dbld | should jsut suck it up and buy one |
| 20:39.58 | Hexxeh | okay so, first things first, cflags and kernel sources |
| 20:40.17 | Hexxeh | i've literally just got this thing and unboxed it, fuck android though |
| 20:40.33 | RaYmAn | Hexxeh: https://github.com/EnJens/kernel_tf201_stock |
| 20:40.50 | Hexxeh | is there u-boot? |
| 20:40.54 | RaYmAn | no |
| 20:41.04 | Hexxeh | aww shit |
| 20:41.08 | Hexxeh | just fastboot? |
| 20:41.17 | RaYmAn | Hexxeh: I'd love u-boot, but at this stage it's just not safe to test :/ |
| 20:41.23 | RaYmAn | Hexxeh: android-tegra-nv-3.1-asushacks branch |
| 20:41.29 | Hexxeh | i have plenty of these things to test with |
| 20:41.35 | Hexxeh | why isn't it safe? |
| 20:41.38 | Hexxeh | PM if you want btw |
| 20:45.08 | Mazon | is the mele's sata done using usb or is there a physical sata controller ? |
| 20:47.46 | specing | physical |
| 20:49.16 | Mazon | and ethernet ? |
| 20:49.59 | Mazon | I've seen several SoCs where they mux ethernet and sata over usb, effectively halving the bandwidth if streaming |
| 20:51.09 | specing | Mazon: real too |
| 20:56.48 | traeak | the awesomeness of the a10 is they put good stuff on the SOC |
| 20:57.09 | traeak | although i did a bad and didn't keep around my older kernel builds |
| 21:01.42 | mnemoc | boxchip and allwinner(s) names come from that idea, box tons of winners in the same chip |
| 21:02.02 | zenitraM | little winning chinese workers |
| 21:02.40 | mnemoc | and avoid western whiners that talk about GPL |
| 21:02.50 | traeak | mnemoc: can you tell me when i did my previous build? :-p |
| 21:03.49 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: you really have to wonder why they try so hard to keep the sources closed. There can't be that much R&D involved |
| 21:04.22 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: they sell the service of doing the software to *some* of their customers |
| 21:04.44 | RaYmAn | ah, I suppose that kindof makes sense, ish |
| 21:04.50 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: so by hiding the code they make the life of clonners harder |
| 21:05.11 | RaYmAn | I suppose |
| 21:05.25 | RaYmAn | (people clone SoC's?) |
| 21:05.35 | mnemoc | nope, people clone devices |
| 21:05.58 | RaYmAn | yeah, but it seems like it's e.g. allwinner that's keeping the sources closed mostly |
| 21:06.11 | mnemoc | they give the sources under strict NDA |
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| 21:06.21 | RaYmAn | exactly |
| 21:06.52 | RaYmAn | we have an mk802 reseller pushing the factory hard to give out u-boot sources, but no luck so far, lol |
| 21:06.55 | mnemoc | and they give it by drops, only after you convice "eva" there is a real need for it |
| 21:07.07 | mnemoc | the factory doesn't have the sources |
| 21:07.10 | traeak | yup, sign an NDA for sources that are legally open |
| 21:07.24 | traeak | you could just sign the NDA and then treat it as garbage (hehe) |
| 21:07.39 | mnemoc | traeak: and then they stop selling you chips |
| 21:07.45 | traeak | well that would be a side effect yeah |
| 21:09.00 | mnemoc | also your account to get updates will probably be revoked |
| 21:09.10 | mnemoc | and your chances of getting any fix in future, lost |
| 21:10.48 | A0Sheds | they are trying to control the buyers of their parts..... |
| 21:11.05 | A0Sheds | they aren't just interested in selling as many parts as possible |
| 21:11.58 | A0Sheds | if they have side deals going on or kickbacks from sales of devices using their SOC they really try to control who uses their parts |
| 21:12.20 | A0Sheds | it's pretty much the same from all the ARM SOC vendors |
| 21:12.38 | mnemoc | most of their customers don't care about the software, they simply flash the given image |
| 21:12.55 | A0Sheds | today ST asked for a whole list of info before giving us pricing |
| 21:13.26 | A0Sheds | " They are very sensitive to sharing price and would like distributors to do some due diligence with validating customers as production players. They have had many companies coming to them to scrub pricing (which may be driven from their competition). " |
| 21:13.58 | A0Sheds | I told them it doesn't make any sense since their pricing has to be on par with equivalent SPC's |
| 21:14.24 | mnemoc | A0Sheds: I was talking about allwinner in particular, but yes. the big brands don't sell to anyone |
| 21:14.25 | A0Sheds | they just want to know what OS, and who is going to build them |
| 21:14.44 | A0Sheds | mnemoc, sure, no problem |
| 21:15.51 | A0Sheds | at some point they treat some parts differently, they don't ask us for the OS for a 16 bit micro or who is going to build the device that 120 different passives are going into |
| 21:16.10 | traeak | well i'm done for today...too much PITA to deal with ATM (ugh acronyms) |
| 21:16.28 | A0Sheds | Freescale seems to be the only vendor handing pricing to distis |
| 21:16.54 | A0Sheds | pricing for the others is usually leaked |
| 21:20.21 | mnemoc | A0Sheds: Q1 2012 |
| 21:20.25 | mnemoc | 2013* |
| 21:20.52 | A0Sheds | mnemoc, yeah, maybe 6-9 months to see cards |
| 21:21.29 | mnemoc | while blessed customers will receive them now in july-august |
| 21:21.30 | A0Sheds | http://www.emtrion.de/dimm_emev2_en.php |
| 21:21.40 | A0Sheds | SODIMM sized processor module with Renesas EMEV2 (dual Cortex-A9) processor |
| 21:21.45 | A0Sheds | wonder what the price is |
| 21:22.08 | mnemoc | expensive |
| 21:22.14 | IEF | ohai mnemoc |
| 21:22.34 | IEF | barges in |
| 21:22.54 | mnemoc | hi |
| 21:23.24 | IEF | one more MK802 owner here |
| 21:23.25 | IEF | :p |
| 21:23.45 | IEF | and quite annoyed at not being able to run my own kernels |
| 21:24.55 | mnemoc | i've been told that dongle has test points to solder an uart |
| 21:25.03 | mnemoc | the pins I mean |
| 21:25.04 | IEF | well yeah, maybe |
| 21:25.22 | IEF | nobody has taken the time to measure them yet |
| 21:25.31 | IEF | I'll probably do it tomorrow |
| 21:25.37 | mnemoc | :) |
| 21:26.06 | IEF | but, it's not either the kernel or u-boot that needs tweaking for MK802 |
| 21:26.14 | IEF | kinda has to be both |
| 21:26.23 | mnemoc | i doubt |
| 21:26.31 | IEF | (I tried replacing both seperately) |
| 21:26.40 | IEF | from the Mele image |
| 21:26.47 | IEF | so that's uh, weird. |
| 21:27.04 | mnemoc | be sure to use the right script.bin/evb.bin |
| 21:27.12 | IEF | yeah, I was |
| 21:27.13 | mnemoc | they aren't cross-board compatible |
| 21:27.32 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: surprisingly, the mk802 actually boots using the mele script.bin/evb.bin |
| 21:27.35 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 21:27.40 | IEF | yeah |
| 21:27.40 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: :o |
| 21:27.44 | IEF | it does |
| 21:27.46 | RaYmAn | but that's probably because it has so little extra hardware |
| 21:28.00 | RaYmAn | as in, practically none |
| 21:28.10 | mnemoc | right, nothing conflicts |
| 21:28.11 | IEF | mnemoc: what's this memory= cmdline parameter? |
| 21:28.22 | RaYmAn | nand doesn't work on the mele image |
| 21:28.37 | mnemoc | IEF: I don't know such thing |
| 21:28.43 | IEF | hm |
| 21:30.49 | mnemoc | I'm going to sleep now, good night, and happy hacking |
| 21:30.55 | IEF | night :) |
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| 21:48.18 | lundman | morning |
| 21:48.45 | traeak | RaYmAn: the images you download have pretty crummy kernels |
| 21:48.55 | lundman | mazon: cubox is nice for hacking and general unix, but mele is better for mediaplayer and android |
| 21:49.03 | RaYmAn | traeak: yeah. |
| 21:49.17 | lundman | I also have 6 NMTs, and 1 Dune |
| 21:49.37 | RaYmAn | traeak: I just got the thing, so figured I'd start out with plain android and plain ubuntu that others have confirmed working, just to get a feel for the device =P |
| 21:50.06 | traeak | RaYmAn: sure, that's reasonable |
| 21:50.31 | RaYmAn | I really want to get the 'usual' kernels going on this |
| 21:51.17 | traeak | i don't think one of those exists |
| 21:52.36 | RaYmAn | by usual I mean something like https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner |
| 21:52.37 | RaYmAn | =P |
| 21:53.41 | traeak | oh |
| 21:53.46 | traeak | yeah that's what i'm running |
| 21:53.54 | RaYmAn | tbh, any custom kernel would be fine right now |
| 21:53.55 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 21:53.59 | traeak | although now i'm kicking myself because i didn't snapshot the kernels very well |
| 21:54.03 | traeak | i was but then trashed them |
| 21:54.14 | traeak | and now i'm seeing a regression i want to chase down |
| 21:54.24 | Mazon | lundman: yeah - I'm mostly looking at general unix (server) - so the gigabit + sata and 1GB ram is more of value ot me |
| 21:54.30 | RaYmAn | yeah, hard to bisect if you don't know when it last worked, lol |
| 21:54.32 | traeak | i would like to verify that the hardware isn't jacked though |
| 21:54.44 | traeak | gigabit you won't find on the mele |
| 21:55.01 | Mazon | traeak: idd, which is why the cubox is more interresting |
| 21:55.07 | traeak | i guess the mx6 or whatever will have it |
| 21:55.26 | Mazon | imx6 and omap5 looks very interresting - but they're not due for a while still |
| 21:55.40 | Mazon | imx were supposed to be out in 2011 -.- |
| 21:55.43 | Mazon | imx6 |
| 21:56.59 | lundman | I'm using cubox to build the kernel for mele.. mostly because I'm lazy :) |
| 21:57.11 | Mazon | heh |
| 21:57.12 | lundman | but amusingly, the sata port wasn't as useful as I thoguht |
| 21:57.20 | traeak | Mazon: sure you woudljnt' be happy with one of these from oldegg? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119067 |
| 21:57.39 | lundman | since usb has power, you can plug in a ssd and be done. sata you need extra power |
| 21:58.06 | Mazon | traeak: atom = 20W+ :) |
| 21:58.08 | traeak | esata gives you options |
| 21:58.25 | traeak | Mazon: some newer pogoplugs have gigabit and esata as well |
| 21:58.32 | Mazon | well, I need some filestorage - so esata + port multiplier |
| 21:58.39 | traeak | Mazon: i think atom idles far below 20W |
| 21:59.12 | Mazon | atom is usually fine - it's the accompanying chipset that tends to blow |
| 22:00.16 | Mazon | traeak: it actually has a fan ... |
| 22:00.45 | traeak | dunno about the 2600 series |
| 22:00.50 | traeak | other than it uses powervr technology |
| 22:02.36 | Mazon | seems like idle ~ 15W |
| 22:02.47 | Mazon | and has a fan |
| 22:03.01 | Mazon | and it's ginourmous compared to cubox :p |
| 22:03.54 | Mazon | that said, I'd wish they get some more general purpose Arm SoCs out there |
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| 22:12.13 | lundman | nice, my kernel modules now have matching module_layout |
| 22:13.42 | lundman | cool, first module of zfs loaded |
| 22:14.42 | lundman | this means the kernel I built might just boot |
| 22:15.29 | lundman | mnemoc: thanks, it was the right config file I was needing all along |
| 22:19.36 | traeak | ugh not i'm struggling more with git |
| 22:26.07 | traeak | anyone familar with git ? |
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| 22:52.38 | lundman | yes a little |
| 22:52.43 | lundman | <5>[159696.765968] SPL: Loaded module v0.6.0-rc8, using hostid 0x34333231 |
| 22:52.45 | lundman | wooo |
| 23:10.35 | steev | traeak: what are you trying to do? and the book that mnemoc pointed out earlier is quite excellent and will probably tell you 99% of what you're trying/wanting to do |
| 23:21.26 | traeak | steev: heh, wanted something the opposite of HEAD^, too bad there isn't HEADv |
| 23:21.34 | traeak | steev: got things mostly worked out |
| 23:21.48 | steev | traeak: HEAD^ is just latest commit -1 |
| 23:21.50 | traeak | steev: trying to figure out why all of a sudden my SATA performance dropped |
| 23:21.55 | steev | so you just take that committish |
| 23:21.57 | traeak | latest commit + 1 would be nice too |
| 23:22.17 | traeak | steev: got it figured out |
| 23:22.25 | steev | latest commit + 1 is impossible |
| 23:22.29 | traeak | really? |
| 23:22.34 | steev | there is no +1 |
| 23:22.40 | steev | latest commit is all git knows about |
| 23:22.46 | steev | however you may be wanting a git diff |
| 23:22.47 | traeak | because of the way the cursor is maintained |
| 23:22.54 | steev | which is all the differences from what's committed to now |
| 23:23.06 | steev | however it won't know about *new files* not in revision control yet |
| 23:23.09 | traeak | basically i jumped back to may 24th |
| 23:23.20 | traeak | and then i needed to move the cursor around to find something that actually built |
| 23:23.31 | steev | you want git bisect |
| 23:23.41 | traeak | it seems a few checkins resulted in unbuildable states |
| 23:23.46 | traeak | well, more than a few |
| 23:24.25 | steev | this is correct, and quite likely with a proprietary (for lack of better term) repository (what is dumped from whomever) |
| 23:24.34 | steev | realistically, commits should only be done after it's been tested |
| 23:24.40 | traeak | heh |
| 23:24.42 | steev | s/done/pushed/ |
| 23:24.46 | traeak | you must have never done software before :-p |
| 23:24.57 | steev | traeak: uh, i'm a kernel developer as a job |
| 23:25.04 | traeak | steev: note the :-p |
| 23:25.06 | steev | and i said should |
| 23:25.18 | steev | believe me, i get on the guys here about doing that shit |
| 23:25.22 | steev | they also push stuff like |
| 23:25.22 | traeak | forgetting to do an "add" is a pretty common mistake |
| 23:25.24 | steev | "fix it" |
| 23:25.38 | steev | git status tells you everything that may be missing |
| 23:25.44 | steev | git status should never show red :) |
| 23:25.48 | traeak | heh |
| 23:26.14 | traeak | that can sometimes be difficult if there's debug files running around in the code area |
| 23:26.22 | traeak | i dont' do kernel stuff, algorithmic application stuff |
| 23:26.47 | traeak | but i am perplexed by why my SATA performance all of a sudden isn't regular |
| 23:27.26 | traeak | and yeah i'm missing the ability to easily test the device |
| 23:27.30 | traeak | anyways |
| 23:27.55 | traeak | could be the mele has marginal power to the sata port |
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| 23:43.41 | steev | any number of reasons |
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