| 00:23.54 | naobsd | it seems "Electron Beam Animation(Screen-off animation)" causes hard reset on recent CM9 on A10 :( |
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| 00:48.21 | naobsd | killerkink: are you making CM9 instead of CM7 now? |
| 00:48.40 | killerkink | naobsd: yes. i have stop for cm7. :) |
| 00:48.48 | naobsd | :) |
| 00:49.11 | killerkink | but cm7 is definite way more stable. :) |
| 00:49.31 | killerkink | regarding the electron beam issue. |
| 00:49.34 | naobsd | I'm very exciting that a lot of people are working for A10 :) |
| 00:49.48 | killerkink | did you get a crash when putting a10 to sleep? |
| 00:50.05 | naobsd | I also got problem by beam animation on CM7 on rockchip ;) |
| 00:50.28 | killerkink | its the same for a10 cm7. had to disable it |
| 00:50.31 | naobsd | screen off -> boot animation |
| 00:50.56 | killerkink | but strangely, i only seem to experience it yesterday |
| 00:50.57 | naobsd | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.06 | killerkink | did they put in new changes? |
| 00:51.18 | naobsd | well, you can see beam animation on some case? |
| 00:51.29 | killerkink | no, 100% boot animation crash |
| 00:51.32 | naobsd | beam animation was merged few days ago |
| 00:51.51 | killerkink | i see, maybe i didnt notice |
| 00:52.11 | killerkink | hwcomposer does not like it |
| 00:52.15 | naobsd | http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/12959/ |
| 00:52.25 | naobsd | I'll check it on aml8726-m |
| 00:52.47 | killerkink | you must be stretch! seeing that you are doing cm for many tablets |
| 00:52.49 | killerkink | :) |
| 00:53.03 | naobsd | and I'll add comment to that change... |
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| 00:53.32 | killerkink | does it work for your aml8726? |
| 00:53.49 | naobsd | I didn't try recent cm9 on it yet |
| 00:53.57 | killerkink | cm7? |
| 00:54.38 | naobsd | I made CM7 for aml8726 but I forgot it ;) |
| 00:55.29 | naobsd | lately I enabled "Stay awake" so I didn't noticed this problem until now |
| 00:55.47 | naobsd | on CM9 |
| 00:55.57 | killerkink | it only happen for me yesterday |
| 00:56.27 | killerkink | it also didnt work for a10 on cm7 |
| 00:56.34 | killerkink | cant wake from sleep i think |
| 00:56.47 | naobsd | it was merged into CM9 on Jun 3 :) |
| 00:56.54 | naobsd | well |
| 00:57.14 | killerkink | yeah. but i am using quarx git. :) |
| 00:57.22 | naobsd | ah :) |
| 00:57.25 | killerkink | i think he merge the change yesterday |
| 00:57.51 | killerkink | i think it will be good if all of us using a common git and improve on it |
| 00:57.56 | killerkink | :) |
| 00:58.03 | naobsd | if you want to try to fix it on CM7, |
| 00:58.17 | killerkink | i am just trying to get a stable version first |
| 01:00.09 | killerkink | i will get to get hdmi uevent out after i have a "stable" version |
| 01:00.11 | naobsd | mmm where is patch for CM7... |
| 01:00.25 | killerkink | did the electron beam work on cm7 for u? |
| 01:04.58 | naobsd | do you have /sys/{wait_for_fb_sleep,wait_for_fb_wake} on CM7 kernel? |
| 01:05.30 | killerkink | i am not sure as i am did not check |
| 01:05.36 | killerkink | also i am not running cm7 anymore. :) |
| 01:06.16 | naobsd | on my case on CM7, it depends on kernel configuration and how kernel chatty |
| 01:06.44 | naobsd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19295303&postcount=502 |
| 01:06.48 | killerkink | so i should look this up for the cm9 kernel? that will help to solve the issue? |
| 01:07.19 | naobsd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19289226&postcount=498 |
| 01:07.51 | naobsd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19287460&postcount=495 this was fix for our CM7 |
| 01:08.46 | naobsd | it was 'never turn on screen on resume' issue on CM7 on rockchip. on A10, it get hard reset when sleeping |
| 01:09.37 | killerkink | hmm....i think mine didnt get reset but just didnt wake up on cm7 |
| 01:09.38 | killerkink | p76ti |
| 01:10.28 | naobsd | hmm. I'm not sure same thing is happen |
| 01:11.49 | naobsd | I'm not sure I tried birdiebnl's fix because I found how to use hw video codecs at that time and I was busy for it ;) |
| 01:11.52 | killerkink | i notice crash on hwcomposer |
| 01:12.09 | killerkink | for cm9 |
| 01:12.11 | naobsd | (probably I tried at some point...) |
| 01:12.23 | naobsd | I didn't check logcat/dmesg yet on CM9 |
| 01:12.29 | killerkink | yeah. its not worth fixing at the moment |
| 01:12.38 | killerkink | just disable the animation. :) |
| 01:13.05 | killerkink | yesterday i was trying to figure out which changes cause the crash |
| 01:13.22 | killerkink | thanks to your tip, it save me along of time |
| 01:14.00 | naobsd | I noticed this issue minutes ago and I tried to disable animation at 1st ;) |
| 01:14.04 | naobsd | no investigation is done yet |
| 01:15.05 | naobsd | my CM7 experience is not funny at all so I can remember about it |
| 01:15.08 | killerkink | initially i thought it was the egl library that i updated |
| 01:15.21 | naobsd | was not funny |
| 01:15.22 | killerkink | yeah. experience help a lot |
| 01:15.38 | killerkink | i can understand. a lot of hardwork |
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| 01:16.04 | Turl | hi hipboi :) |
| 01:16.06 | killerkink | i am going to raise an issue on quarx git so that he is also aware |
| 01:16.11 | killerkink | and probably others |
| 01:16.14 | hipboi | Trul: morning |
| 01:17.22 | Turl | hipboi: look https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xptSURiAoAs/T81EJy7OfzI/AAAAAAAABvk/aOb43pLToo0/s772/IMG_20120604_162541.jpg |
| 01:17.24 | naobsd | I made CM7 image with hw video codec and beam animation issue. then some person start to attack me like "naobsd's CM7 is broken and he stole my hw video!" |
| 01:18.02 | hipboi | Turl: why there are two goodix chip? |
| 01:18.03 | naobsd | then I closed that project. and now I don't make CM9 with animation issue, then I must be happy :) |
| 01:18.18 | Turl | hipboi: I don't know :P |
| 01:18.27 | killerkink | naobsd: what? stole? |
| 01:18.30 | Turl | hipboi: but I suppose that's why it's called "2+1" |
| 01:18.54 | killerkink | naobsd: allwinner source was already available |
| 01:19.11 | ZaEarl | some touchscreens are 5 points, and some are 10. I wonder if it takes 2 chips to do the 10 points. |
| 01:19.13 | naobsd | killerkink: no no. I said my CM7 for rockchip |
| 01:19.38 | killerkink | naobsd: ignore them. yours is the public git and you share with all |
| 01:19.52 | Turl | hipboi: goodix hasn't answered my emails btw |
| 01:20.06 | killerkink | turl: your touch is still not working? |
| 01:20.40 | Turl | killerkink: I have it working, but I'm using the 3.0.8 .ko with ugly hacks to get it to load |
| 01:20.40 | naobsd | killerkink: that guy couldn't understand dev work like as compiling source code so he didn't noticed my change in frameworks/base ;) |
| 01:21.46 | killerkink | i see. there is no such driver in the "leaked" source? |
| 01:21.53 | Turl | killerkink: nope |
| 01:22.15 | killerkink | weird. there is no issue selection in quarx framework base git |
| 01:22.18 | ZaEarl | there is a driver, but as is it doesn't work |
| 01:23.11 | tallnerd1985 | Kernel question for you guys, ain't 3.3 the cross kernel for both Android and Nux or did I read that wrong? |
| 01:23.23 | Turl | hipboi: unrelated question, do you know if there's any r2p4-02rel1 - [08 May 2012] mali android libs for A10 |
| 01:23.25 | Turl | ? |
| 01:23.38 | killerkink | hmm.. i seem to notice two goodix message in dmesg but didnt look further |
| 01:24.03 | hipboi | Turl: no |
| 01:24.17 | hipboi | Turl: sorry, i need to work now |
| 01:24.27 | naobsd | killerkink: issue can be disabled |
| 01:24.28 | Turl | ok, no problem :) |
| 01:24.32 | hipboi | Turl: need to solve the license problem |
| 01:24.36 | Turl | thanks hipboi |
| 01:24.42 | hipboi | write a script to handle it |
| 01:24.47 | Turl | yeah, I saw we got proper GPL licenses for many stuff |
| 01:25.08 | killerkink | naobsd: ok, thanks. it was there for his cedarx git though |
| 01:25.57 | naobsd | about beam animation issue, I'll try on aml8726 and investigate it's common issue or not. |
| 01:26.13 | naobsd | if it's common issue, it should be fixed in CyanogenMod repo |
| 01:26.22 | killerkink | naobsd: that will be good |
| 01:30.39 | naobsd | I'm reading comments on that change |
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| 01:33.32 | killerkink | wish i understand opengl. :) |
| 01:33.49 | killerkink | it always give me headache when i look at it |
| 01:34.15 | killerkink | do you know how font in cwm is structure? |
| 01:34.30 | lundman | i wrote a few games in OGL, its a bit low-level |
| 01:34.36 | killerkink | been trying to figure it out |
| 01:34.43 | Turl | it's a .h killerkink |
| 01:34.54 | killerkink | turl: yes, X bitmapped i think |
| 01:35.15 | killerkink | lundman: yeah. writing ogl app is a good start |
| 01:35.41 | killerkink | turl: i am trying to do non-english font using the standard font file |
| 01:35.52 | killerkink | but i need to figure out the format |
| 01:36.08 | lundman | in fact.. hmm, my free demo game is in android market, I should try it on mele |
| 01:37.17 | killerkink | turl: but its not the same as kernel console font though |
| 01:37.26 | naobsd | I don't understand OpenGL ;) |
| 01:37.51 | naobsd | mmm there are some changes in hwcomposer on other platform... :( |
| 01:37.52 | killerkink | naobsd: yeah, i think it help if we do understand it. :) |
| 01:38.07 | lundman | setup screen, render your points/lines/polygons, then swap buffers :) |
| 01:38.10 | naobsd | and I guess tegra2 also get reboot :( |
| 01:38.19 | naobsd | I wonder why it was merged |
| 01:38.33 | Turl | naobsd: behaviour doesn't change |
| 01:38.42 | Turl | naobsd: off animation was already on |
| 01:38.47 | killerkink | naobsd: sometimes commit get revert. :) |
| 01:38.49 | Turl | and on animation is disabled by default |
| 01:39.20 | killerkink | turl: the merge cause a10 to crash when turn screen off |
| 01:40.03 | naobsd | I did factory reset while installing latest CM9 |
| 01:41.11 | naobsd | Screen-off animation is enabled by default, I got reset problem, then I disabled it |
| 01:42.32 | Turl | killerkink: you can disable screen off animation too |
| 01:42.36 | Turl | it's a setting on overlay |
| 01:42.47 | killerkink | turl: yeah i can |
| 01:43.01 | killerkink | before that i didnt realise it was the electron beam |
| 01:43.10 | killerkink | as it only occurred yesterday |
| 01:43.22 | killerkink | until naobsd mentioned it in this xda thread |
| 01:43.38 | killerkink | i thought it was changes that i did |
| 01:43.44 | naobsd | oh where is overlay setting... |
| 01:44.04 | killerkink | naobsd: you can put overlay in your device directory |
| 01:44.17 | killerkink | so you do not need to edit the framework res directory |
| 01:44.51 | killerkink | i cant remember the setting in cm7. should be simliar in cm9 |
| 01:45.01 | killerkink | let me see |
| 01:45.35 | naobsd | ah I see |
| 01:45.48 | naobsd | I'm sure how to add overlay :) |
| 01:46.25 | killerkink | yeah. i realised it and you are asking for the exact settings. :) |
| 01:46.49 | naobsd | currently I don't make CM9 image for other people, so I just investigate issue :) |
| 01:48.06 | killerkink | i think its "<bool name="config_enableScreenAnimation">false</bool>" |
| 01:48.10 | killerkink | in cm7. |
| 01:48.20 | killerkink | in config.xml |
| 01:49.05 | killerkink | naobsd: do you have a imx515 tablet? |
| 01:49.22 | naobsd | I have IMX515 from hiapad |
| 01:49.38 | naobsd | A8? not sure about name ;) |
| 01:49.57 | killerkink | have you try using self compiled kernel source? |
| 01:50.12 | naobsd | config_screenOnAnimation config_screenOffAnimation |
| 01:50.40 | killerkink | yeah i think so |
| 01:51.34 | naobsd | not tried. I didn't do the work so much |
| 01:51.43 | naobsd | not tried. I didn't do the work so much on imx515 |
| 01:51.57 | naobsd | he is sleeping long time ;) |
| 01:52.19 | lundman | is phoenixcard just a gui for dd or something else? today, VB isn't letting me forward USB to windows to run it :) |
| 01:52.23 | naobsd | mysteriously I can't login freescale's web site while I tried something |
| 01:52.51 | naobsd | (probably browser issue) |
| 01:52.52 | killerkink | naobsd: :) |
| 01:55.33 | naobsd | killerkink: "hmm...maybe its not. Mine is boot animation restarting when pressing the power button to sleep." what does it mean? |
| 01:56.35 | killerkink | naobsd: just saying that when turning screen off(using power button), the hwcomposing crash happened and android restarted |
| 01:56.51 | naobsd | I also saw boot anim when pressing power button, or waiting a minute |
| 01:57.08 | naobsd | well, "hard reset" may not be correct |
| 01:57.11 | killerkink | the crash for me was immediate... |
| 01:57.24 | naobsd | sorry |
| 01:57.25 | naobsd | well |
| 01:57.35 | killerkink | :) |
| 01:57.35 | naobsd | it happens immediately when pressing power |
| 01:57.59 | killerkink | thats why after reading a second time, i thought u might have refer to another issue |
| 01:58.09 | naobsd | and also it happens immediately when going auto sleep by idle timer |
| 01:58.59 | naobsd | well I just said same thing twice ;) |
| 01:59.21 | killerkink | :) |
| 02:00.24 | naobsd | anyway |
| 02:01.19 | naobsd | I'll try to investigate it, but I may not have time ;) I hope someone on CyanogenMod notice it too |
| 02:01.39 | naobsd | (if it's common issue) |
| 02:01.43 | killerkink | naobsd: they wont if it work on all the officially supported device |
| 02:01.56 | naobsd | yup |
| 02:02.31 | killerkink | i think now the official devices all have kernel sources |
| 02:02.35 | naobsd | this is the reason that I can't upload some of my changes to gerrit |
| 02:03.08 | killerkink | naobsd: guess that dont want unofficial stuff to bloat their source |
| 02:04.41 | naobsd | I upload my change only if it's really useful for others too :) |
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| 02:07.09 | killerkink | naobsd: of course. I saw your change for the touch get accept? |
| 02:07.35 | naobsd | for legacy TS driver? |
| 02:08.21 | killerkink | i think so. that time i was trying to do cm9 but it was too unstable |
| 02:08.45 | killerkink | so i was thinking of doing cm7 and trying to understand cm10 changes |
| 02:08.46 | naobsd | actually it may not be necessary for devices which has kernel source ;) but I hope it will be useful on initial stage to port new device |
| 02:11.00 | naobsd | hm |
| 02:11.05 | naobsd | I need to go out soon |
| 02:11.11 | lundman | do you dare to? |
| 02:11.12 | naobsd | see you |
| 02:11.32 | lundman | ok I'm trying the mele 1.6, I have nothing else to do |
| 02:16.26 | killerkink | naobsd: bye |
| 02:50.52 | steev | bah, ram in my i7 laptop is bad |
| 02:52.56 | steev | explains why gcc likes to randomly seg, as well as java, i may have to go back to 4g til i get new ones |
| 03:08.48 | Turl | mnemoc: when you wake up, have a look at https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner/commit/811a20ff25f8ff6c22ad15f166c5f07bcca716f9 and https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner/commit/123da7e4244c0fc329249a5e94ed9dcafcd9378a please |
| 03:39.33 | steev | Turl: so you were right, memtest over the weekend was fine, but it's failing for both sticks today :/ |
| 03:43.21 | Turl | yeah, ram failing is a pain in the neck |
| 03:43.28 | Turl | I had bad ram on a buildbot |
| 03:43.35 | Turl | and when I built it failed really random |
| 03:43.39 | Turl | with typos on the code and weird stuff |
| 03:43.49 | Turl | and when you went and read the code, the typo wasn't there |
| 03:44.00 | Turl | so you'd wtf, launch again, and it'd build ok |
| 03:44.07 | Turl | ended up being the ram |
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| 03:47.50 | steev | yeah just annoying since it didn't fail this weekend but failing now, will attempt an rma, i still have the original ram |
| 03:48.38 | steev | i'll have to go back down to 4g til i find out, and even if they deny it (it's a little over a year old), it's only like 35 bucks for a new pack |
| 03:49.08 | Turl | yeah |
| 03:49.16 | Turl | when you have ddr3 it's cheap |
| 03:49.25 | Turl | if mine ever fails I need to cash out like 100US :P |
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| 05:29.33 | lundman | I really should help more. So how are we looking for booting linux, and running xbmc on the mele? |
| 06:00.32 | naobsd | oh, screen-off beam can run on CM9 on aml8726... I don't have hwcomposer source for it... |
| 06:19.07 | killerkink | naobsd: perhaps we may need to try the newer hwcomposer binary |
| 06:44.45 | steev | which? |
| 06:44.47 | steev | er, sorry |
| 06:58.18 | mnemoc | Turl: somehow both of the commits look ugly as hell |
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| 07:39.20 | mnemoc | ZaEarl: where should I point people looking for info about building ICS for A10? |
| 07:45.38 | ZaEarl | mnemoc, I just started a wiki entry for it at https://github.com/zareason/android/wiki/Building-Android-for-ZaTab |
| 07:47.40 | mnemoc | how zazaza specific is your manifest? |
| 07:48.57 | ZaEarl | not very |
| 07:49.22 | ZaEarl | most of it is straight CM9, with the ZaTab device tree |
| 07:51.29 | mnemoc | thanks |
| 07:53.21 | ZaEarl | I can probably add a branch that'll pull in Turl's repos instead. Those will be slightly more generic. |
| 07:54.42 | mnemoc | is everyone working in CM instead of AOSP? |
| 07:55.16 | ZaEarl | I would think so. |
| 07:56.11 | killerkink | mnemoc: dont think there is any value in staying with ASOP. CM continue to be improve by the cyanogen team which is a plus |
| 07:57.02 | mnemoc | can't digest the CM look |
| 07:58.26 | mnemoc | and the now boot image really encourages me to not even try it once |
| 07:58.31 | mnemoc | new* |
| 07:59.37 | killerkink | mnemoc: whcih cm look? |
| 07:59.44 | killerkink | the Cid? |
| 08:01.23 | mnemoc | don't know the name, the CM that appears when searching cyanogenmod on google images |
| 08:02.05 | killerkink | the alien looking android? |
| 08:02.34 | killerkink | cm new mascot |
| 08:03.09 | killerkink | http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/introducing-cid |
| 08:03.21 | mnemoc | i sort of found funny the skating android, the new one is more on the childish "I'm bad!" style I dislike |
| 08:03.56 | mnemoc | but it's the overcrowded and noisy look and feel CM has since the begining that I really hate |
| 08:06.05 | mnemoc | so for me no technical improvement CM could ever have would compensate how sick I feel looking at it |
| 08:06.08 | killerkink | after reading the acticle, i realised the funny skating android that you spoke about is google own bugdroid |
| 08:06.41 | killerkink | thats just your preference. the look and feel can always be changed. you are not required to follow the CM look and feel |
| 08:10.45 | mnemoc | If I find my nexus one I'll give it another try |
| 08:11.40 | mnemoc | or maybe in my adam... most of the android 4.0 work they've done is also CM9-centric |
| 08:11.54 | mnemoc | but I doubt I'll ever get a taste for that |
| 08:14.02 | CIA-126 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r2c96642ac301 /allwinner_a10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): moving pages |
| 08:15.02 | CIA-126 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r2b1d7175ee6c /allwinner_a10/orders/ (92388.mdwn 923882.mdwn): order processing cleanup |
| 08:35.10 | mnemoc | weee... disp drivers GPLed! |
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| 08:47.34 | specing | mnemoc: When? What? |
| 08:47.58 | mnemoc | git |
| 08:48.11 | specing | userspace stuff got GPLed? |
| 08:48.18 | mnemoc | nope, kernel drivers |
| 08:48.35 | specing | Weren't they open from the beginnning? |
| 08:48.40 | mnemoc | nope |
| 08:49.05 | mnemoc | the source was available, yes, but not licensed as GPL |
| 08:49.54 | mnemoc | they were "all rights reserved" |
| 08:51.37 | mnemoc | today allwinner (via Tom Cubie) has relicensed the USB and the disp drivers |
| 08:58.33 | naobsd | oh |
| 08:58.37 | naobsd | really nice! |
| 08:59.05 | mnemoc | yesterday it was most of arm/arm/mach-sun?i/ stuff, sata and other small drivers |
| 09:05.39 | naobsd | mnemoc: https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/commit/28e7824ca18954ea029747857cb05b1619934949#diff-1 this change(sw_ahci_platform.h) may be a problem |
| 09:05.51 | Turl | mnemoc: yeah they're ugly, but ugly > broken. it's pretty major when you can't mrproper your tree :P |
| 09:06.21 | naobsd | it seems it came from 2.6.36 allwinner source. I'm not sure it's really written by RedHat/MontaVista |
| 09:07.22 | mnemoc | naobsd: good catch, we need to readd the original copyright lines |
| 09:07.38 | mnemoc | naobsd: can you send a patch? |
| 09:08.20 | naobsd | well, I don't have enough time... |
| 09:08.49 | naobsd | and I don't see all updates. I just saw and noticed it |
| 09:09.38 | mnemoc | naobsd: a ticket then? I'll surely forget it before I have time to dive into that |
| 09:09.58 | naobsd | I see. I'll do it later |
| 09:10.11 | naobsd | probably I can remember ;) |
| 09:10.21 | mnemoc | thank you :) |
| 09:11.15 | naobsd | and I'll try to see all updates about license, but feel free to do it if someone can do it quickly :) |
| 09:11.56 | mnemoc | naobsd: I can do it tonight, if there is a ticket to remind me |
| 09:12.44 | Turl | mnemoc: how many names did allwinner have? I see All Winner Micro and All Winners on the old licences |
| 09:13.28 | rm | Boxchip? :) |
| 09:13.46 | naobsd | ok. doing now for that 1 file quickly... |
| 09:14.01 | mnemoc | boxchip, softwinner, xxxx electronics, krosspower, x-powers, .... and more |
| 09:14.54 | Turl | they certainly couldn't agree on one ^^ |
| 09:18.25 | mnemoc | Turl: there must be a more decent way of fixing mali/mrproper |
| 09:18.40 | mnemoc | ifeq (1,1) is kind of.... wtf |
| 09:18.56 | Turl | yeah |
| 09:19.01 | Turl | I'll just drop the code |
| 09:21.14 | Turl | mnemoc: better? https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner/commit/c21378467c40675205e86fa16b5205be1c52b0cb |
| 09:21.15 | naobsd | hmm? how to add labels to issue...? |
| 09:21.23 | Turl | needs testing |
| 09:21.31 | naobsd | well, it's ok for now;) |
| 09:21.39 | naobsd | recorded! |
| 09:22.21 | mnemoc | naobsd: probably it's a permissions problem, which do you want to add? |
| 09:23.20 | naobsd | I think 3.0-v2 branch name should be added |
| 09:23.42 | mnemoc | naobsd: I can do ape tasks without losing the focus in $work$, but I can't think |
| 09:23.43 | naobsd | (may not important, just my feeling) |
| 09:24.23 | mnemoc | done |
| 09:24.26 | mnemoc | Turl: better |
| 09:24.44 | naobsd | mnemoc: thank you! |
| 09:24.53 | naobsd | I lost focus |
| 09:24.57 | mnemoc | :p |
| 09:25.09 | naobsd | return to my work now ;) |
| 09:26.23 | Turl | is having breakfast, next to the gas heater :D |
| 09:29.11 | zenitraM | is having breakfast next to the fan :D |
| 09:29.28 | Turl | mnemoc: patch works for me, mrproper and builds fine using O= |
| 09:30.19 | Turl | zenitraM: 6C, I'd be dead with a fan :P |
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| 09:32.08 | mnemoc | Turl: merged |
| 09:34.33 | Turl | nice, thanks |
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| 10:17.43 | CIA-126 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r585e785bffe5 /: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus |
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| 12:28.26 | ADB_reborn | Hello, my name is Andre Derrick Balsa, just joined this channel following the advice of Alejandro Mery. I am interested in contributing to the development of the Android kernel for the AllWinner A1x SoC. I have setup a development environment on my home workstation based on Ubuntu 10.04. I have already managed to build the AOSP ICS (took 2h15 minutes) and also yesterday I built the allwinner kernel tree available on github. I now |
| 12:30.32 | specing | lol introduction |
| 12:30.55 | specing | mnemoc: I hold you responsible! :P |
| 12:47.10 | ADB_reborn | Ok, so a question: I noticed the Mali driver in the allwinner kernel was moved from an external module to the driver subdir. I believe this is a good thing, but I just wanted to know why the move was made at this time. Also I think that now that the Mali driver was moved inside the kernel tree proper, the only remaining external modules are a few wifi drivers (ar6003, ar6302, bcm40181, usi-bcm4329 and nano-c047.12). Is it importan |
| 12:54.29 | zenitraM | ADB_reborn: don't write such long sentences, they get cut |
| 12:56.45 | zenitraM | first one at "I now" and second one at "It is importan" |
| 12:57.55 | killerkink | welcome. :) |
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| 13:09.29 | mnemoc | ADB_reborn: send one sentence at the time. both paragraphs you sent got truncated |
| 13:15.16 | ADB_reborn | Oops Sorry, my bad:P |
| 13:16.24 | ADB_reborn | Right, so the first paragraph was a long intro about myself. To make it short: old Linux kernel contributor wants to contribute to AllWinner A10 kernel source. |
| 13:17.01 | mnemoc | sounds good :) |
| 13:17.07 | mnemoc | welcome! |
| 13:17.38 | ADB_reborn | And 2nd paragraph: why was Mali code moved from external module to internal driver and should the others external modules be kept in the source tree? |
| 13:18.14 | ADB_reborn | (ar6003, ar6302, bcm40181, usi-bcm4329 and nano-c047.12) namely |
| 13:19.01 | ADB_reborn | The information I have is that nobody uses, has used or ever intends to use the BCM40181 for example. |
| 13:19.18 | ADB_reborn | But I may be wrong... :P |
| 13:19.35 | mnemoc | in general those drivers are quite ugly and difficult to get in-tree correctly, but if you have hardware to test any of then, patches are highly welcomed to move them |
| 13:20.33 | mnemoc | and update them if possible |
| 13:21.09 | libv | i personally do not believe in big monolithic trees, especially not for graphic |
| 13:21.10 | ADB_reborn | Yep, from the old times hacking the Linux kernel I remember that external drivers were used for devices with large binary blobs (proprietary code). |
| 13:22.01 | libv | mesa is the worst one, actively resisting any attempt at modularization |
| 13:22.26 | ADB_reborn | That's one of the reasons I was asking about the Mali GPU code |
| 13:23.16 | libv | but i do not understand the reason for keeping all the drm modules in kernel. Even though mr airlie triumphantly claimed that he could do the same thing in 1500 lines, to RadeonHDs 15kloc at the time of the announcement. KMS code along is hitting 70kloc on radeon drm |
| 13:23.32 | libv | and the whole thing is massively unstable |
| 13:24.18 | libv | with all bits having amazingly tiny window of compatibility with eachother |
| 13:25.37 | libv | effectively tying kernel drivers, libdrm (and the stupid monolithically built libdrm driver specific convenience libraries), X.org and Mesa together on an almost 1-1 version basis |
| 13:25.56 | libv | "we do the compatibility bit at the GL level!" |
| 13:26.40 | libv | when a lima mesa driver happens, i will make sure it is external, i will also make sure that it builds and runs against multiple kernel versions |
| 13:27.08 | libv | this means that it will happily run, runtime compatible, against both mali200 and mali400 kernel spaces |
| 13:27.23 | libv | which is what limare is already doing today |
| 13:27.38 | mnemoc | we did move mali in our tree within drivers/gpu, but it was to reduce it to one blessed version built during the normal kernel build.... we have the luxury of only needing to deal with mali400-1 |
| 13:28.42 | libv | what will you do when i do get the time to start writing a mesa driver, and when i start cleaning up the kernel side? |
| 13:28.50 | mnemoc | libv: lima uses the mali kernel drivers, right? or you are also reimplementing kernel space? |
| 13:28.54 | ADB_reborn | Right, that sounds logical. :) |
| 13:29.18 | libv | mnemoc: cleaning up kernel side happens after real work has been done |
| 13:29.26 | libv | mnemoc: so it might not ever happen |
| 13:29.35 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 13:30.28 | libv | http://people.freedesktop.org/~libv/graphics_driver_stack_(FOSDEM2010_-_slides).pdf |
| 13:30.34 | libv | http://people.freedesktop.org/~libv/dri-sdk.txt |
| 13:32.17 | mnemoc | libv: nice |
| 13:33.21 | ADB_reborn | libv: yep, nice doc, thx. |
| 13:34.06 | libv | the animation was lost with going to pdf though |
| 13:34.16 | libv | compare slides 7 and slides 10 |
| 13:35.25 | libv | the dri sdk, and the related trees in my personal gits on fd.o, was done when someone said "sure, you can do it for the orphaned unichrome driver, and we should be able to do it for gallium as it is soo nice and clean, but you can never do it for all the old-school mesa drivers" |
| 13:35.44 | libv | a good two months later, i came back with this doc and all the old school drivers building externally... |
| 13:36.05 | libv | and then someone said "sure, you can do this for the old school drivers, but there's no way you can do this for gallium" |
| 13:36.58 | libv | in any case, you can easily have half a dozen bits to any x86 graphics driver stack |
| 13:37.17 | libv | all tend to depend quite tightly on eachother |
| 13:37.47 | libv | in the SoC world, the drm guys have even bigger problems |
| 13:38.24 | libv | as those idiots just threw together modesetting, memorymanagement and the old school drm functionality into one big blob |
| 13:39.18 | libv | anyone who had been doing graphics drivers before keithp joined intel, would've taken a bit more caution there |
| 13:41.43 | mnemoc | do you see this really getting solved? |
| 13:41.53 | libv | the issue has been avoided so far, as there are no 3d supporting bits for drm for arm devices at this point |
| 13:42.17 | libv | i have been whining about this for the last 4 years |
| 13:43.07 | libv | but since unichrome is a dead end, and since radeonhd was killed, i have no way to change anything |
| 13:44.24 | libv | my intel work doesn't even get me close to changing that |
| 13:44.58 | mnemoc | a well made lima kernel driver would probably gain support |
| 13:45.26 | libv | and whatever i state or do, the X.org community around keithp tends to do the opposite, or reinvent things a few months to years later |
| 13:45.39 | mnemoc | :< |
| 13:46.24 | libv | which is why you find little reference to my groundbreaking work on modesetting, or to all the hard work i and the two other radeonhd guys did in figuring out the hw when they took the hard bits over from radeonhd to radeon |
| 13:47.25 | mnemoc | meh |
| 13:47.53 | libv | lima might change that, but i am currently stuck on implementing hwcomposer for intel hw |
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| 13:52.46 | libv | in any case, lima userspace will be as much runtime compatible as sanely possible, lima userspace will be fully build time compatible |
| 13:53.25 | libv | at least for mali200 and mali400, chances are that only little can be shared directly for t6xx |
| 13:56.18 | mnemoc | iirc linaro was starting a 2d xorg driver to support mali200, 400 and t6xx.... |
| 13:56.34 | libv | it's a kms driver with hooks |
| 13:56.50 | libv | and iirc, it was a samsung guy |
| 13:57.08 | libv | and the hooks were probably there to use samsungs g2d |
| 13:57.59 | mnemoc | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEwNDU <--- ths? |
| 13:58.49 | libv | it's an xorg module, so no 3d stuff is supposed to happen apart from some mesa init |
| 13:59.03 | libv | it does list t6xx directly, strange |
| 13:59.19 | libv | does that mean that t6xx comes with a separate blitter? |
| 14:02.31 | mnemoc | I'm a total analphabet on that area... I was only wondering if both efforts could join forces on something |
| 14:03.43 | libv | xorg provide[sd] modesetting, 2d acceleration, video acceleration (usually overlays, sometimes mpeg decoding) |
| 14:03.46 | mnemoc | and been linaro sponsored by arm maybe they even have (NDA'ed) knowledge to be used to improve the kernel side to make lima's life easier |
| 14:04.02 | mnemoc | ok |
| 14:04.55 | libv | xserver tends to also be the process that grabs the drm device, grabs part of the memory (does modesetting stuff with it) and therefor initialises mesa enough to be told what is going on and where |
| 14:06.06 | libv | kms is moving some of the modesetting to the kernel, but as i am noticing right now, they are not even trying to abstract away anything sensible |
| 14:06.33 | mnemoc | libv: btw, the disp drivers for sunxi (allwinner SoCs) got properly GPLed today |
| 14:06.47 | libv | smashing! |
| 14:06.49 | libv | good work! |
| 14:07.13 | libv | are there any more bits which still have strange headers? |
| 14:07.30 | libv | anyway, that is fantastic |
| 14:07.48 | libv | now work towards upstreaming some bits should really start in earnest |
| 14:07.50 | mnemoc | yes, but Tom is going to "fix" them all |
| 14:08.04 | libv | nice :) |
| 14:08.13 | mnemoc | today was the day of the disp and usb drivers |
| 14:08.13 | libv | Turl: well done! |
| 14:08.41 | mnemoc | Turl != Tom :) |
| 14:08.58 | libv | to get back the graphics bits: mali200 and mali400 are pure 3d engines, so they have nothing to do with X |
| 14:09.17 | libv | err... |
| 14:09.26 | libv | right, hipboi isn't here |
| 14:09.54 | mnemoc | can eventually lima be used to abuse the mali engine for computing data? |
| 14:10.12 | libv | to the extent that you want to use the separate vertex and fragment shaders for that, yes |
| 14:10.26 | libv | things will be much better with the unified shaders in t6xx |
| 14:11.16 | libv | but i think an upstreamable kernel space is much more important than implementing (a subset of) opengl, or implementing androids renderscript directly |
| 14:11.39 | libv | and even the upstreamable kernel bit is out of the questions without a mostly full featured mesa driver |
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| 14:54.14 | traeak | my wifelikes the music library available on the mele's internal android |
| 14:54.22 | traeak | but the stupid remote doesn't work well with it |
| 14:54.34 | traeak | i took it back afer i installed some chinese stuff on the viewsonic gtab |
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| 16:54.18 | ManoftheSea | someone pinged me. Clearly, I need to convince IRSSI to save direct messages in a seperate window |
| 16:54.34 | ManoftheSea | Probably a week ago, at least. |
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| 17:52.16 | hno | ManoftheSea, this? 02-06-2012 17:18:51 <DonkeyHotei>: ManoftheSea: that makes no sense |
| 18:07.12 | DonkeyHotei | probably not, since he was in the middle of a convo at the time |
| 18:08.55 | ManoftheSea | no, that's too long ago. It's not important. |
| 18:13.08 | DonkeyHotei | for context: |
| 18:13.08 | DonkeyHotei | [Sat 2012-06-02 07:51:17 AM PDT] <hp_> its like the VLC for windows :) |
| 18:13.08 | DonkeyHotei | [Sat 2012-06-02 07:51:23 AM PDT] <Turl> VLC is an app |
| 18:13.08 | DonkeyHotei | [Sat 2012-06-02 07:51:56 AM PDT] <Turl> maybe more like MS's "media foundation" thing? idk |
| 18:13.08 | DonkeyHotei | [Sat 2012-06-02 07:52:13 AM PDT] <Turl> or directshow |
| 18:13.09 | DonkeyHotei | [Sat 2012-06-02 07:56:55 AM PDT] <hp_> ahh ok i got you Turl |
| 18:13.11 | DonkeyHotei | [Sat 2012-06-02 08:04:17 AM PDT] <ManoftheSea> "like VLC for windows"? |
| 18:13.13 | DonkeyHotei | [Sat 2012-06-02 08:04:44 AM PDT] <ManoftheSea> VLC on Win is like GStreamer on Lin? Is that what you were saying? |
| 18:14.46 | ManoftheSea | oh, I read your date wrong, hno. Yeah, that was probably it. |
| 18:14.55 | ManoftheSea | but like I said, not important. |
| 18:29.29 | CIA-126 | rhombus-tech: Dr_David_Alan master * ra4b97db75bbc /allwinner_a10/orders/penguin42.mdwn: Well, if they're playing nice again.... |
| 18:40.42 | steev | libv: is your speech with the slides available somewhere? |
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| 19:19.48 | ekimia | I ami missing something |
| 19:20.00 | mnemoc | greeting? |
| 19:20.13 | ekimia | Yes I meant Hi :-) |
| 19:20.24 | mnemoc | hi |
| 19:20.48 | ekimia | I guess I missed something about the update process of the mele A1000 with a SDcard |
| 19:21.13 | ekimia | I have a 1Gb SDcard and tried to update using the phoenix utility |
| 19:21.38 | ekimia | on Windows , it always fail at the end while writing the partition |
| 19:22.00 | ekimia | I guess it's expecting a 2 GB card or even more |
| 19:22.15 | mnemoc | try it |
| 19:22.28 | mnemoc | I have never used that tool myself, but it's supposed to work |
| 19:22.42 | ekimia | on my side it doesn't |
| 19:22.58 | mnemoc | try a larger card |
| 19:23.07 | ekimia | then I could try the linux tools from https://github.com/cnxsoft/a10-tools |
| 19:23.24 | ekimia | I don't have a larger card as you might guess , Yes I could buy one |
| 19:23.35 | mnemoc | that's for a different kind of image |
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| 19:24.02 | ekimia | ok I though it could be used as a replacement for phoenix tool |
| 19:24.27 | ekimia | can you point me to some details on alternative to this phoenix ? |
| 19:24.47 | ekimia | I guess it's just some bootloader and dd the image on the card |
| 19:25.05 | mnemoc | ekimia: there are no alternatives to phoenixcard |
| 19:25.25 | mnemoc | but iirc there are different versions for different winblows versions |
| 19:26.00 | mnemoc | the stock images are actually quite complex |
| 19:26.28 | ekimia | that's quite a problem |
| 19:26.41 | ekimia | Mele did not help us on this point ? |
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| 19:27.03 | ekimia | I mean I usually ond't have windows and most of the hobbist don't |
| 19:27.49 | mnemoc | and why mele care for hobbist who don't have windows? |
| 19:28.24 | mnemoc | we are an absolutely irrelevant segment for any chinese manufacturer |
| 19:28.32 | CIA-126 | rhombus-tech: Alexandru master * rc77dc2aacbcb /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/android.mdwn: |
| 19:29.33 | mnemoc | they are already been "graceful" by providing updates at all |
| 19:30.34 | ekimia | mnemoc: the A10 are for burning images it seems http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/05/12/makesd-script-to-write-image-to-sd-card-for-mele-a1000-allwinner-a10-devices/ |
| 19:30.42 | traeak | heh |
| 19:30.46 | ekimia | But maybe Firmware update image won't work ? |
| 19:30.56 | ekimia | with this utility ? |
| 19:30.58 | mnemoc | ekimia: that's for dd images |
| 19:31.01 | traeak | apparently in china software defelopers make something like 12000USD/year |
| 19:31.05 | ekimia | I am a bit confused |
| 19:31.38 | ekimia | let me reboot on linux ... |
| 19:31.43 | mnemoc | ekimia: if you want to use an "official" (or modded) image, phonixcard and livesuit are your only options |
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| 19:32.11 | ekimia | mnemoc: oups that's quite a bad news |
| 19:32.18 | ekimia | but thanks for the clarification |
| 19:34.35 | traeak | apparently a small 2 bedroom flat on the outskirts of shanghai costs ~250k USD |
| 19:35.11 | traeak | about 20 years of salary or so |
| 19:35.37 | mnemoc | that's why workers live in barracks in the factories |
| 19:36.13 | mnemoc | and so can send their whole income to their family in the villages |
| 19:36.56 | traeak | well line workers make even less than someone who's a programmer |
| 19:37.04 | traeak | anyways, it just means that china has huge problems ahead |
| 19:37.26 | mnemoc | but Tom seems to be well paid... he rents a real house in the city |
| 19:38.07 | traeak | the numbers i mentioned could be off by some percentage |
| 19:38.13 | traeak | and frankly shanghai is pretty damn expensive |
| 19:38.30 | traeak | probably a bit better down south |
| 19:39.20 | mnemoc | he mentioned short ago a flat in shenzhen costs over 20000 yuan.... 2500E/m |
| 19:39.31 | mnemoc | rent |
| 19:39.51 | traeak | ahh |
| 19:40.07 | traeak | well the flat we have is about 1.8 million RMB |
| 19:40.13 | traeak | it used to be ~2.4 |
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| 19:40.22 | traeak | purchased at about 300k RMB |
| 19:41.04 | specing | RMB is yuan? |
| 19:41.09 | traeak | yes |
| 19:41.26 | traeak | about 6:1 rmb:usd |
| 19:41.53 | traeak | hard to gague the euro since it's gone to hell, and european cost of living sucks |
| 19:42.49 | mnemoc | I don't even dream about buying something for my family anymore |
| 19:42.55 | specing | Ok so 1 Euro is 8 Yuan |
| 19:43.35 | mnemoc | specing: use google: 1000 yuan to euro ..... and they convert it :p |
| 19:43.58 | specing | WolframAlpha :P |
| 19:44.06 | specing | Through DuckDuckGo |
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| 19:58.10 | libv | steev: which one? |
| 19:58.29 | steev | you linked some slides earlier |
| 19:58.31 | steev | erk |
| 19:58.37 | steev | http://people.freedesktop.org/~libv/graphics_driver_stack_(FOSDEM2010_-_slides).pdf |
| 19:58.42 | steev | the talk that goes with ^^ |
| 19:58.54 | libv | the mp3 is right next to that |
| 19:59.32 | libv | type my name into youtube, second hit :) |
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| 20:01.01 | steev | ah, didn't look through the file listing, just read through the slides |
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| 20:03.53 | DonkeyHotei | i'm guessing RMB stands for Ren Min Bi |
| 20:12.32 | specing | ? |
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| 20:16.12 | DonkeyHotei | traeak: ^ |
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| 20:24.24 | hno | Interesting. boot1 contains an USB device storage mode triggered by entering '1' while booting (just keep 1 pressed in the terminal program). |
| 20:24.42 | hno | if pressing 2 then FEL is started. |
| 20:25.20 | hno | 3 starts the key test program. |
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| 20:28.16 | Tsvetan | hi |
| 20:28.28 | hno | hi Tsvetan . Have the upload finished? |
| 20:28.43 | Tsvetan | let me check |
| 20:28.49 | Tsvetan | I'm at home now |
| 20:28.57 | hno | too |
| 20:29.00 | Tsvetan | and just build sun5i linux 3.0 |
| 20:29.08 | hno | nice |
| 20:29.24 | Tsvetan | now building the android 4,0 |
| 20:29.29 | hno | so you are staring a software carrier :) |
| 20:29.32 | Tsvetan | linux build went without errs |
| 20:29.36 | Tsvetan | hahahaha |
| 20:29.55 | Tsvetan | it's really made like for dummies |
| 20:30.04 | hno | Android is for dummies. |
| 20:30.16 | Tsvetan | but there is everything we need |
| 20:30.26 | Tsvetan | all peripherial code for a13 |
| 20:30.30 | Tsvetan | ddr nand etc |
| 20:30.40 | Tsvetan | even hdmi |
| 20:30.48 | Tsvetan | which puzzles me as a13 have no hdmi |
| 20:31.02 | hno | yes, if happy with using their closed bootloader. |
| 20:31.04 | Tsvetan | but there are sun5i/hdmi drivers |
| 20:32.00 | Tsvetan | ahh android build didn't went good |
| 20:32.03 | Tsvetan | Your version is: java version "1.6.0_24". The correct version is: Java SE 1.6. |
| 20:32.05 | hno | I suspect it's pretty much the same internals, just reduced pin count and slightly rearranged GPIO to fit the pin configuration. |
| 20:33.00 | Tsvetan | the upload didn't finish |
| 20:33.16 | hno | There should be a bare linux alternative in the SDK. There is for A10. |
| 20:33.41 | Tsvetan | yes, both sun4i and sun5i are in this sdk |
| 20:35.38 | ZaEarl | Tsvetan, are you using Sun JDK? I've had bettter luck with OpenJDK. |
| 20:36.24 | Tsvetan | ZaEarl yes I have Oracle/Sun Java installed |
| 20:37.37 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: a12 has hdmi |
| 20:37.48 | hno | Tsvetan, do you have a buildroot/scripts/build_sun5i-lite.sh script? |
| 20:37.49 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: and it's sun5i too |
| 20:37.58 | Tsvetan | hno yes! |
| 20:38.21 | Tsvetan | mnemoc yes, I saw a12 files there too |
| 20:38.33 | hno | then ./build.sh sun5i-lite should build a small Linux system image. |
| 20:39.03 | Tsvetan | I build ./build.sh -p a13_nuclear -k 3.0 |
| 20:39.32 | Tsvetan | a13_nuclear is wits a13 tablet reference design I guess |
| 20:39.50 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: upload finished? |
| 20:40.01 | Tsvetan | mnemoc not yet |
| 20:40.08 | mnemoc | :( |
| 20:40.42 | Tsvetan | don't worry tomorrow you will have your hands on it :) |
| 20:41.53 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: I would like to start downloading it before tomorrow :p |
| 20:42.04 | Tsvetan | hno there is no sun5i-lite I was confused with sun5i-lite |
| 20:42.12 | Tsvetan | sun4i-lite |
| 20:42.15 | Tsvetan | duh |
| 20:42.21 | mnemoc | :D |
| 20:43.22 | hno | You should be able to use a13 or sun5i |
| 20:44.45 | mnemoc | sun5i builds fine in our tree (even in 3.3) .... but your sources are probably newer |
| 20:44.56 | Tsvetan | yes I have these: a13 sun5i a12_nuclear a13_nuclear a13-test android |
| 20:45.18 | mnemoc | nuclear |
| 20:45.21 | Tsvetan | how can I check how newer are they? |
| 20:45.37 | hno | Tsvetan, is there a .git folder? |
| 20:45.41 | Tsvetan | yes |
| 20:45.47 | hno | then "git log" |
| 20:47.41 | Tsvetan | i'm sure I saw .git when I was browsing the archive but can't see it now |
| 20:48.23 | mnemoc | find -name '.git' |
| 20:49.11 | Tsvetan | lot of these but in android 4.0 folder |
| 20:49.41 | Tsvetan | ahaaa |
| 20:49.49 | Tsvetan | in uboot and tools there are too |
| 20:50.22 | Turl | Tsvetan: is it a new OS release? |
| 20:50.41 | Turl | or not-so-OS? :P |
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| 20:51.20 | Turl | Tsvetan: if you can go to android/frameworks/base and run 'git log' and tell me the date on the commit on top it'd be great |
| 20:51.34 | Tsvetan | git log says it's not repository |
| 20:51.44 | CIA-126 | rhombus-tech: Francesc master * r349548b95c59 /allwinner_a10/orders/shantak.mdwn: |
| 20:52.03 | Tsvetan | feel kind dumb :) |
| 20:52.59 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: the a13 SDK |
| 20:53.10 | mnemoc | err |
| 20:53.15 | mnemoc | Turl: the a13 SDK |
| 20:53.34 | mnemoc | damn, dealing with two Ts is complicated |
| 20:54.14 | Turl | mnemoc: :P |
| 20:54.28 | Turl | Tsvetan: weird, it should be. unless they went and removed it, that is :P |
| 20:55.02 | Turl | who's the one who was worried re. hwcomposer crashing? |
| 20:55.37 | mnemoc | libv maybe? |
| 20:56.09 | Tsvetan | olimex@ASUS-K53U:~/a13/lichee$ find -name '.git' ./u-boot/.git ./tools/.git ./linux-3.0/.git ./buildroot/.git |
| 20:56.10 | hno | In the "leaked" SDK there is a lichee/.repo folder with the actual repository data in a strange layout. |
| 20:56.41 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: cd ./linux-3.0; git log |
| 20:56.42 | Turl | hno: yeah it's a repo :) |
| 20:56.53 | Tsvetan | mnemoc I did |
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| 20:57.01 | Turl | hno: but there's '.git' symlinks everywhere to it |
| 20:57.02 | mnemoc | date of the last commit? |
| 20:57.31 | Tsvetan | fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git |
| 20:57.41 | hno | Turl, we are trying to talk about the A13 SDK that Tsvetan have, not the "leaked" A10 SDK. |
| 20:58.14 | hno | Tsvetan, is there a lichee/.repo folder? |
| 20:58.37 | Turl | hno: I was just explaining you what that "strange layout" was |
| 20:58.44 | Tsvetan | hno no |
| 20:59.01 | hno | Tsvetan, do "git log" work in tools? |
| 20:59.18 | Tsvetan | no |
| 20:59.21 | Tsvetan | same message |
| 20:59.33 | hno | ls -l .git |
| 20:59.38 | Tsvetan | I actually made ls -R |
| 20:59.49 | Tsvetan | the file is 1 MB and I can upload somewhere |
| 21:00.07 | Tsvetan | mnemoc how was the filetea.me? |
| 21:00.22 | hno | Better wth a "find -ls" in such case. |
| 21:01.23 | Tsvetan | https://filetea.me/t1sb8b26 |
| 21:03.16 | Tsvetan | here is the output from find -ls |
| 21:03.17 | Tsvetan | https://filetea.me/t1sb4433 |
| 21:03.31 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: find -ls > list.txt |
| 21:03.47 | mnemoc | thanks |
| 21:03.49 | Tsvetan | mnemoc yep I figured out |
| 21:03.53 | Tsvetan | hahahah |
| 21:04.17 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: isn't filetea.me nice? :) |
| 21:04.43 | Tsvetan | yep |
| 21:04.46 | hno | Tsvetan, do you have a A13 development board? Or only the tablet? |
| 21:05.33 | mnemoc | funny thing it means "fillet me" in spanish, only recently repurposed by a guy of my town as file sharing service |
| 21:10.55 | Turl | mnemoc: lol @ filetea.me |
| 21:12.40 | hno | Seems to be from 25 Apr based on file timestamps. |
| 21:12.51 | mnemoc | Turl: nice name ;-) |
| 21:13.17 | mnemoc | hno: our current sun5i code is from 2011.12.30-31 |
| 21:14.11 | mnemoc | Turl: it's a very nice file sharing service where the server only coordinate between peers. no account, no index and nothing is stored on the servers. |
| 21:14.12 | hno | and our sun4i code is from Jan. |
| 21:14.33 | hno | exact date unknown as the git only have merges.. |
| 21:17.51 | hno | so we might have news for both sun4i and sun5i in there.. |
| 21:18.11 | hno | it's still the same tree in allwinner from what hipboi said the other day. |
| 21:19.01 | mnemoc | I'll diff the kernel sources as soon as I get access to it |
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| 21:19.30 | Tsvetan | phew filetea screwed my internet |
| 21:20.10 | mnemoc | :o |
| 21:20.10 | Tsvetan | hno mnemoc I sent you the find.list by email |
| 21:20.31 | mnemoc | btw, the file I as downloading was several MBs, the file you mailed only 1 |
| 21:21.06 | mnemoc | 22814077 12112 -rw-rw-r-- 1 olimex olimex 12402688 Jun 6 00:02 ./find.txt |
| 21:21.13 | mnemoc | 22MB |
| 21:21.25 | mnemoc | what's the diff? |
| 21:21.42 | Tsvetan | I compressed |
| 21:21.43 | mnemoc | mailed one is 11MB |
| 21:21.51 | mnemoc | I mean extracted |
| 21:21.57 | mnemoc | 22 vs. 11 |
| 21:22.09 | Tsvetan | the 1 MB was ls -R |
| 21:22.15 | mnemoc | ah, ok |
| 21:22.19 | Tsvetan | find -ls made 12 MB |
| 21:23.11 | mnemoc | can you share the folder before the upload from your office is finished? |
| 21:23.30 | Tsvetan | it's single file not folder |
| 21:23.59 | mnemoc | ok |
| 21:24.02 | mnemoc | narf |
| 21:24.07 | Tsvetan | a13.tar.gz |
| 21:24.12 | mnemoc | %? |
| 21:26.41 | hno | No MALI libraries in the SDK it seems? Odd.. |
| 21:26.47 | Tsvetan | can't connect :( |
| 21:27.47 | Tsvetan | it's half past 12 my time |
| 21:27.52 | Tsvetan | good night guys :) |
| 21:27.58 | Tsvetan | talk to you tomorrow |
| 21:27.58 | hno | Night Tsvetan |
| 21:30.17 | Turl | mnemoc: using websockets? :) |
| 21:31.06 | Turl | hmm xhr |
| 21:31.11 | Turl | server is still on the middle? :P |
| 21:31.22 | specing | Looks like some kind of torrent |
| 21:31.41 | Turl | specing: javascript torrent? doubt it :P |
| 21:31.45 | hno | specing, what? |
| 21:32.21 | Turl | mnemoc: have your friend buy cutmeinpiec.es too :P |
| 21:34.28 | mnemoc | :p |
| 21:34.57 | hno | mnemoc, the fins.txt file is 11M. In find -ls output the first number is inode. size is between group & date as usual. |
| 21:35.12 | hno | 12M |
| 21:35.19 | mnemoc | hno: ic |
| 21:35.30 | mnemoc | hno: pretty large inode id |
| 21:39.47 | hno | damn, the A13 buildroot is stripped from all Linux packages. Only supports building kernel. |
| 21:40.02 | mnemoc | :< |
| 21:40.57 | mnemoc | 8015206 3092 -rw-r--r-- 1 olimex olimex 3164160 Apr 1 11:53 ./buildroot/package/mali-3d-r2p3/sun4i_mali-bin.tar |
| 21:41.01 | mnemoc | 8015209 200 -rw-r--r-- 1 olimex olimex 204800 Apr 1 11:53 ./buildroot/package/mali-3d-r2p3/sun4i_mali-dev.tar |
| 21:41.23 | hno | oh? Can't find thise in the copy I downloaded. |
| 21:41.37 | mnemoc | hno: I'll forward you the file I got |
| 21:42.00 | mnemoc | hno: you were To: too |
| 21:42.16 | hno | Yes, I saw the mail now. |
| 21:42.23 | Turl | mnemoc: r2p3 :/ |
| 21:44.16 | mnemoc | not compatible with the one on our kernel? |
| 21:45.15 | hno | r3p4 in kernel tree? |
| 21:45.42 | hno | many kernel driver versions in the A13 linux-3.0 tree.. |
| 21:46.16 | mnemoc | hno: we have only one right now |
| 21:46.25 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.05 | mnemoc | living in drivers/gpu/ |
| 21:51.00 | hno | DX910-SW-99002-r2p1-05rel1 |
| 21:51.01 | hno | DX910-SW-99002-r2p2-03rel0 |
| 21:51.01 | hno | DX910-SW-99002-r2p3-01rel0 |
| 21:51.01 | hno | DX910-SW-99002-r2p4-01dev0 |
| 21:51.01 | hno | DX910-SW-99002-r2p4-02rel0 |
| 21:51.41 | hno | in A13 SDK. But no libs for r2p4. |
| 21:52.28 | mnemoc | maybe r2p3 is compatible with r2p4 |
| 21:56.32 | mnemoc | going to sleep now, cu tmorrow! |
| 21:56.58 | hno | grep MALI_API_VERSION driver/src/devicedrv/mali/common/mali_uk_types.h |
| 21:57.16 | hno | r2p3 is 9 |
| 21:57.25 | hno | I think r2p4 is 10. |
| 21:57.37 | hno | in which case incompatible. |
| 21:59.10 | libv | this is how it works with vendors throwing trees over the hedge |
| 22:01.00 | hno | r2p4 is 10. |
| 22:01.19 | libv | and the incompatibility is overrated |
| 22:01.42 | libv | check the actual differences in the ioctls, and the ioctl structures |
| 22:01.49 | hno | this is how it works with blobs. Even more interesting if you have two blobs of different origins.. |
| 22:02.45 | libv | you don't have to tell me about that |
| 22:03.00 | libv | in any case, check the differences in the actual ioctls |
| 22:03.18 | libv | my limare code only broke with version 7 of the api |
| 22:03.30 | libv | where the wait_for_notification stuff changed fundamentally |
| 22:03.50 | hno | we have r2p4 libs as well. |
| 22:04.03 | libv | if they fit onto the same userspace bits, then fine |
| 22:04.47 | hno | but not planning on looking into mali right now. busy with usb controller stuff. |
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| 23:44.22 | PhantomsDad | Hi, where is the u-boot environment stored on SD card? I *think* it is stored somewhere after the u-boot.bin and before the first partitition? |
| 23:46.21 | PhantomsDad | I'm talking about this u-boot: https://github.com/hno/uboot-allwinner/wiki |
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| 23:50.18 | sepp | hi |
| 23:51.52 | sepp | i put the "leaked" ics onto my mele, can someone tell me how to change the lang. to english? |
| 23:52.27 | lundman | sure |
| 23:53.16 | lundman | on the main screen, settings is the second choice, Appl / Settings / Favorites / File Browser / Web Browser |
| 23:53.41 | lundman | In settings, first 3 are Wifi/blutooth/Data usage |
| 23:54.15 | lundman | the second group is device, the 3rd is Personal |
| 23:54.32 | lundman | in personal, you have Accounts / Location / Security / Language iinput and Backup. |
| 23:54.53 | lundman | so enter 4th, and top option on right, is the lagnuage |
| 23:55.36 | lundman | 3rd group, 4th option |
| 23:58.22 | sepp | thanks |
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