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| 11:04.55 | specing | To present and future readers: does anyone know what "URDL" stands for on my tablets PCB: https://93.103.140.50/A10-MID/hardware/board_lower.jpg |
| 11:06.56 | specing | Or what the "home" header is in https://93.103.140.50/A10-MID/hardware/board_upper.jpg |
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| 16:06.41 | specing | Any replies since I dropped? |
| 16:06.46 | specing | :/ |
| 16:07.09 | specing | Oh, there couldn't be any since the server dropped out with me... silly me |
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| 16:37.17 | MaDMaLKaV | ok, my ubuntu VM went totally wrong after a dist-upgrade. Any other recommended distribution for compiling arm stuff? |
| 16:39.44 | specing | Gentoo |
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| 16:44.35 | MaDMaLKaV | I'm amazed there is still no big distro offering at least an e17 based spin |
| 16:53.15 | traeak | ugh |
| 16:53.34 | traeak | why oh why doesn't e17 have wireframe move and resize? |
| 16:53.36 | j1nx | Is github down? Can't connect to github. |
| 16:53.47 | traeak | very very basic features they don't implement |
| 16:54.02 | traeak | oneof the biggest reasons i stoped runing e17 |
| 16:54.08 | traeak | the other was stability at the time |
| 16:58.41 | mnemoc | j1nx: works fine from here |
| 16:58.59 | mnemoc | j1nx: resolving to 207.97.227.239 |
| 17:01.04 | mnemoc | uses EFL for the UI of devices, but doesn't digest it for desktop |
| 17:02.18 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: the main advantage of using ubuntu for that is that you can use linaro's PPA |
| 17:02.46 | MaDMaLKaV | fuck the VM, I need a beer. BBL guys! |
| 17:02.51 | mnemoc | :) |
| 17:02.54 | traeak | i heard this morning |
| 17:03.00 | traeak | the japanese came up with beer soft serve! |
| 17:03.12 | traeak | soft serve beer ... yumm |
| 17:05.48 | mnemoc | prefers a good espresso |
| 17:06.29 | mnemoc | I think I have take a beer in over 10y... |
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| 17:06.36 | mnemoc | haven't* |
| 17:13.05 | j1nx | beer sounds good, unfortunately it is prohibited by Islam :( |
| 17:13.47 | j1nx | So no beer in this god forgiven freaking UAE |
| 17:14.10 | j1nx | (github works again, was a hickup in the line of the hotel) |
| 17:15.55 | specing | My internet is funky today |
| 17:16.11 | traeak | i was told if you are western you can find it in the UAE |
| 17:16.39 | traeak | and most high level "muslims" have access to alcohol as well |
| 17:16.40 | traeak | hehe |
| 17:17.41 | j1nx | Oh yes, I can find it in some hotels. But to buy some bottles you need to go to a special shop where tou need to show your residence pass, which I don't have offcouse |
| 17:18.50 | j1nx | And they are hypocrit's anyway, because the bars in the hotels are full with locals. The expat's are with their ass on the beaches |
| 17:18.52 | traeak | ahh |
| 17:18.54 | traeak | well that's a problem |
| 17:18.55 | mnemoc | stamped foreign passport is not enough? |
| 17:19.09 | traeak | although i only drink socially...that means "on the road" |
| 17:19.31 | traeak | you should go to ireland then :-p |
| 17:19.32 | j1nx | Nope residence permit only, but I am in process of making some expat friends ;) |
| 17:20.20 | j1nx | Dis anybody of you already looked at the released LIMA drivers? |
| 17:21.00 | mnemoc | my wife made me refuse a good job in dublin because of the drunken youth on the streets during daytime :( |
| 17:21.41 | j1nx | Although to be considerred experimental, it looks like they are already in a usable state |
| 17:22.13 | specing | mnemoc: Lol what? |
| 17:22.18 | j1nx | I lived in Aberdeen for a couple of months. Believe me. Your wife was right! |
| 17:22.27 | mnemoc | :) |
| 17:24.35 | traeak | j1nx: don't have the hardware here...but there's checkins every day |
| 17:25.13 | traeak | https://gitorious.org/lima |
| 17:26.40 | j1nx | Yes already looking at the gitorious code. Cool stuff! Am trying to find some people on the net who played with it and their oppinions |
| 17:27.02 | traeak | probably need to get a hold of one of the contributors directly |
| 17:27.04 | j1nx | Looks like the "proper" way forward |
| 17:27.22 | traeak | flatmush was big in the dingoo scene |
| 17:27.29 | traeak | but i see him contributing to the lima stuff |
| 17:31.12 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Maurice-Martin master * r337127a23e46 /allwinner_a10/orders/.mdwn: |
| 17:39.47 | j1nx | Hmm, the spark tablet runs a demo of the lima driver. It has the same GPU |
| 17:40.54 | j1nx | Does anybody know which kernel that devices runs with there linux-KDE plasma interface? We might be able to use their binaries at first, then switch to lima later. |
| 18:21.12 | hno | mnemoc, with devicetree you have the same machine type for a wide range of boards and CPU models, if any machine type at all. |
| 18:21.38 | traeak | i have one of those tablets sitting here |
| 18:21.48 | traeak | an older revision of the spark tablet |
| 18:21.51 | traeak | F1 i think |
| 18:21.59 | traeak | currently series 'm' is out |
| 18:22.37 | traeak | the revisions i think deal with them using different screens |
| 18:22.58 | hno | is just back from his 6:th kids birth. |
| 18:23.12 | traeak | kid 6 ? |
| 18:23.13 | traeak | woah |
| 18:23.19 | traeak | i guess you aren't in china |
| 18:24.28 | hno | MaDMaLKaV, the second header on old CD-ROM cables is 2.0mm. I am using one of those cables as adapter for the UART 3.3V cable. |
| 18:28.11 | traeak | http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/10/net-us-android-apple-idUSBRE8390AK20120410 |
| 18:28.23 | traeak | intreresting android is now almost 70% of phones in china |
| 18:35.36 | specing | hno: 6th kid? you nuts? |
| 18:36.22 | A0Sheds | is anyone besides http://bodhilinux.com/ working on just using linux and adding some gestures on the GUI? |
| 18:37.29 | A0Sheds | they just make well laid out enlightenment desktops, but this and gestures would much better that android IMHO |
| 18:38.06 | traeak | samsung bada was supposed to go enlightenment |
| 18:40.09 | A0Sheds | I'd really like a smartphone that is 1) a good phone for making calls, 2) doesn't spy on me, 3) runs Linux, 4) has gestures |
| 18:40.25 | A0Sheds | am I going to have to build it? |
| 18:40.48 | hno | specing, who knows? Would I know? |
| 18:41.11 | A0Sheds | similar to Android only with security and missing the spyware |
| 18:44.50 | traeak | cyanogenmod takes care of the spyware |
| 18:45.05 | traeak | but the jvm causes problems |
| 18:45.19 | traeak | stuff doesn't crash but it certainly freezes on android |
| 18:47.43 | hno | traeak, nice to see that several people is getting involved in lima now. |
| 18:49.15 | traeak | amazing people have time |
| 18:49.19 | traeak | hopefully getting paid somehw |
| 18:49.46 | hno | MaDMaLKaV & mnemoc, the cable link MaDMaLKaV posted is showing 2.0mm connectors. Those smaller white ones are exactly the right connector for the UART port. It even have pins populated on the right 3 pins we need. |
| 18:51.14 | hno | never seen one with more than one extra connector however. |
| 18:55.48 | mnemoc | hno: the proportions on the picture don't seem to match what I see on the board... but if that cable worked for you, it works :) |
| 18:59.26 | specing | A0Sheds: openmoko freerunner |
| 19:01.18 | mnemoc | the inside is 8.8mm by 3mm |
| 19:03.19 | hno | mnemoc, looks right to me. |
| 19:04.11 | mnemoc | then it's right :) |
| 19:04.30 | A0Sheds | specing: did they add some gesture support to the GUI? |
| 19:05.16 | mnemoc | hno: oh, missed it.... boy or girl? |
| 19:06.16 | mnemoc | is seriously pondering about getting another 2... children grow too fast :( |
| 19:06.37 | hno | mnemoc, the lates one is a boy. 4 boys and 2 girls. |
| 19:08.17 | mnemoc | nice |
| 19:09.22 | traeak | my wife made me get fixed (ugh) |
| 19:09.23 | traeak | heh |
| 19:09.41 | mnemoc | :D |
| 19:10.15 | traeak | figured 3 was enough |
| 19:10.19 | traeak | okay, back to work :-p |
| 19:10.31 | traeak | hno: dunno how you have time for all of this...unless this is part of your job |
| 19:12.53 | hno | my current job is as a Linux sysadmin. Intend to go back to Squid development in some months. |
| 19:13.12 | hno | Squid as in www.squid-cache.org. |
| 19:13.52 | hno | ARM stuff is just an hobby. |
| 19:15.20 | specing | ... |
| 19:25.23 | hno | mnemoc, http://www.henriknordstrom.net/code/A10/cdrom-connector.png is the cable I use. |
| 19:26.05 | mnemoc | the brown or the white on the mele? |
| 19:26.10 | hno | white |
| 19:27.11 | mnemoc | i keep seeing it narrower... but... if it works, who cares |
| 19:27.16 | hno | which is exactly right type for the connector in the mele. |
| 19:30.41 | hno | have also found a 5 pin connector of the same kind in an DELL USB mouse, but actually use another USB cable for the USB port which have a slightly too thin connector. mostly because I found the other cable first. |
| 19:37.25 | mnemoc | :) |
| 19:38.28 | mnemoc | unfortunatelly, as I have relocated myself quite a few times I don't have with me any old hardware I could mutilate to get one of those usb cables :-/ |
| 19:39.24 | hno | unfortunately most stuff have relpcated with me the times I have moved. |
| 19:40.48 | mnemoc | :D |
| 19:42.07 | hno | s/p/o/ |
| 19:43.50 | hno | well, not when I moved out of my parents house. Then I just took a diving-bag of stuff with me, mostly clothes. |
| 19:45.30 | specing | Who needs clothes when one has processors? |
| 19:46.15 | hno | and kept things at that level for 2 years, moving 3 times. But then rented an appartment with Anna, my girlfriend and now wife since many years back, and when we moved from there a company moved everything we had including trash. |
| 19:47.20 | mnemoc | :D |
| 19:47.22 | hno | all paid by the government because I had found a job in another city. |
| 19:47.40 | mnemoc | amazing country you live in |
| 19:48.25 | mnemoc | curses his parents for deciding to return from .dk to .cl 2y before I was born :-/ |
| 19:49.01 | hno | Had some months of official unemployment after studies, and the employment office were very happy to help me. |
| 19:49.16 | mnemoc | :) |
| 19:52.00 | hno | guess it gave them some credibility for helping people finding jobs. Got tickets for a roadtrip around half of sweden meeting interested employers and then everything related to the move paid by them. All I had to do was to find a job.. |
| 19:53.18 | mnemoc | amazing |
| 19:54.38 | hno | ah, and I got 10K SEK in cash as well. |
| 19:54.53 | mnemoc | o_O |
| 19:56.05 | mnemoc | no wonder there are that many lazy chileans (my country of origin) leeching up there |
| 19:56.07 | hno | the city where I studied had a bit of unemployment problems with a large military settlement closing down and industry shrinking at the time. |
| 20:00.28 | hno | yes we have some leechers in the system, but not really a big problem. |
| 20:09.11 | hno | specing, did not bring a single silicon CPU with me. |
| 20:09.21 | hno | only the wetware one. |
| 20:26.08 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Giuseppe master * rd1778c5acfd8 /allwinner_a10.mdwn: |
| 20:53.41 | hno | mnemoc, looking into changelogs a bit more of 3.x kernels, and looks like the A10 actually do have a VIC, just that the infrastructure for VICs have changed a lot and a bit of mach adjustments is needed there. |
| 20:56.16 | mnemoc | yes! I knew it! :p |
| 20:56.57 | mnemoc | the worm on my belly was telling me that wasn't there by mistake |
| 20:57.20 | hno | IRQ handling probably works as-is still, but not as clean. |
| 21:36.54 | hno | Hmm.. confusing. No does not seem it's been using the VIC before. But there is a sun4i header defining some VIC registers. |
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| 21:42.59 | mnemoc | incomplete implementation? |
| 21:44.11 | mnemoc | in Tom words, they are product-driven, they only implement what's really needed for starting selling a new product of a client |
| 21:44.32 | hno | not sure, but the more I look the more I get convinced removing the VIC Kconfig select is right. |
| 21:45.41 | hno | There is a bunch of other changes/cleanups should get merged into sun4i however. |
| 21:48.00 | mnemoc | what changes you mean? |
| 22:00.11 | hno | 9f97da78bf018206fb623cd351d454af2f105fe0, 4d5fc58dbe34b78157c05b319669bb3e064ba8bd, 230f984662d7e0e4a9597c665fd4f53130666e7d etc. |
| 22:08.15 | mnemoc | those "remove this and that because they aren't needed anymore" panic me |
| 22:11.03 | mnemoc | it's very hard (for me) to see if it's because there are default handlers good enough for us now or if it's becomes it's functionality was reimplement in a completelty different way which I don't know |
| 22:18.06 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Andrea master * r2e444533a222 /allwinner_a10/orders/Blr..mdwn: |
| 22:28.08 | mnemoc | for example the last of those, seems easy, I remove both placeholders in arch/arm/mach-sun4i/include/mach/entry-macro.S and.... *slap* *slap* |
| 22:28.11 | mnemoc | arch/arm/kernel/entry-armv.S: Assembler messages: |
| 22:28.14 | mnemoc | arch/arm/kernel/entry-armv.S:1104: Error: bad instruction `disable_fiq' |
| 22:28.14 | mnemoc | arch/arm/kernel/entry-common.S: Assembler messages: |
| 22:28.14 | mnemoc | arch/arm/kernel/entry-common.S:37: Error: bad instruction `arch_ret_to_user r1,lr' |
| 22:28.17 | mnemoc | arch/arm/kernel/entry-common.S:76: Error: bad instruction `arch_ret_to_user r1,lr' |
| 22:28.21 | mnemoc | make[1]: *** [arch/arm/kernel/entry-common.o] Error 1 |
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| 22:32.32 | mnemoc | will look deeper into those 3 tomorrow, good night |
| 22:41.03 | hno | Which version are you building? |
| 23:03.41 | hno | builds fine for me. |
| 23:04.34 | hno | but that tree is based on Linus master. |
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