| 00:18.46 | A2Sheds | looking good, sample connectors are arriving |
| 00:26.42 | ManoftheSea | yay, finally |
| 00:35.25 | A2Sheds | \0/ \\0 0// /0\ \0/...... |
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| 06:02.59 | hipboi | zenitraM: i have a question |
| 06:03.24 | hipboi | zenitraM: your mele box, before it doesn't work |
| 06:04.08 | hipboi | zenitraM: how did you powered off the box |
| 06:05.00 | hipboi | zenitraM: did you powered off by the android system or unplugged the power adapter directly |
| 08:24.07 | mnemoc | hi, dumb question, how can I increase the brightness of a a10-based tablet from adb shell? :( ... searching in /proc with android's `ls` is not fun :< |
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| 08:35.59 | zenitraM | hipboi: from android |
| 08:36.20 | zenitraM | mnemoc: use busybox find |
| 08:36.36 | zenitraM | most of the useful commands are in busybox but they aren't symlinked |
| 08:36.52 | mnemoc | made an script iterating over ls, no brightness file in proc or sys :< |
| 08:37.09 | mnemoc | zenitraM: nice for the hint :) |
| 08:37.23 | mnemoc | zenitraM: didn't know busybox was there by default |
| 08:37.37 | zenitraM | it is, luckily |
| 08:38.09 | zenitraM | it even has chroot |
| 08:38.35 | hipboi | mnemoc: hi |
| 08:38.43 | mnemoc | hipboi: hi! |
| 08:38.48 | hipboi | mnemoc: have received your mele box? |
| 08:39.05 | mnemoc | hipboi: not yet |
| 08:39.07 | hipboi | someone in uk have got it without any customs |
| 08:39.11 | mnemoc | left .se 3 days ago |
| 08:40.23 | zenitraM | airmail does rarely stop in customs at least here in spain |
| 08:40.47 | mnemoc | received an onda vi10 elite yesterday, so I have an a10 device to play again.... but installed with power control widget, hit brigthness to my world went black :< |
| 08:41.07 | mnemoc | s/installed with/installed the/ |
| 08:41.26 | zenitraM | mmm… if nothing else works, try reflashing from livesuit |
| 08:41.57 | mnemoc | yes, i'll start downloading the firmware |
| 08:42.37 | zenitraM | oh, here you have |
| 08:42.38 | hipboi | you can swipe the data partition to get the default setting |
| 08:42.38 | zenitraM | http://www.slatedroid.com/wiki/index.php/Fix_a_Brightness_Setting_of_0 |
| 08:43.55 | hipboi | mnemoc: i mean the customs duty |
| 08:44.11 | hipboi | the guy in uk doesn't pay any customs duty to get the mele box |
| 08:45.13 | mnemoc | hipboi: yes, very nice indeed, only the DHL guy has been screwed until now |
| 08:45.31 | mnemoc | DHL guy = zenitraM :p |
| 08:45.44 | zenitraM | yeah :( i'm the unlucky one i guess |
| 08:45.52 | hno | oh, my mele is finally on route to delivery. A good chance I get it today. |
| 08:46.00 | zenitraM | great news |
| 08:46.03 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 08:47.09 | mnemoc | hno: are you sure about https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/commit/ee7cda129c8d22db70e57bf200bf365cef6e9c86 ? hipboi reverted that change in the official tree back in december |
| 08:47.12 | hno | swedish post sitting on the item for 4 days trying to figure out where to send it within same city :/ |
| 08:47.24 | mnemoc | hahah |
| 08:47.40 | hno | mnemoc, it should be reverted. |
| 08:47.46 | zenitraM | i've had packages coming from HK to Spain in 3 days and then having to wait 10 days to be delivered to my city |
| 08:50.55 | zenitraM | hipboi: when/if you ship the mele back, could you put a lower value for customs, i.e $20? |
| 08:51.14 | zenitraM | packages under 25€ (~$28) don't have to pay custom duty here |
| 08:51.35 | hipboi | ok |
| 08:51.44 | hipboi | i will ship it by swenden post |
| 08:51.59 | zenitraM | okay, no problem :) |
| 08:52.30 | mnemoc | zenitraM: thanks a lot about that link, using sqlite3 solved the problem smoothly |
| 08:54.57 | zenitraM | you're welcome |
| 08:56.29 | mnemoc | for the records, it was "merely" set to 103... but understood by the driver as 0 |
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| 19:10.18 | hno | mele arrived, no customs. |
| 19:11.03 | hno | well, it was checked by customs but no fee or taxes. |
| 19:21.28 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 19:32.09 | hno | hm.. wonder how I file this in the books... ah, well, i'll sort it out. |
| 19:34.07 | hno | pulls out a screwdriver. |
| 19:36.33 | hno | damn, those screws need a tiny screwdriver. Odd proportions. |
| 19:36.42 | specing | mele? |
| 19:37.10 | hno | yes |
| 19:40.29 | hno | and that's a too tiny screwdriver. None of the right size. |
| 19:40.54 | mnemoc | specing: an inexpensive allwinner-a10 devkit disguised as cheap tv set-top |
| 19:45.03 | specing | $100? no thanks |
| 19:46.08 | specing | it looks kinda stupid, too |
| 20:03.24 | specing | Is AW A10 armv7-a -r -m or what is it? |
| 20:05.10 | destinal | A10 is a Cortex-A8 (ARMv7) SoC (little endian) |
| 20:05.48 | mnemoc | it's a 1.0-1.5Hz Cortex A8 with mali400p |
| 20:06.20 | specing | I know that far |
| 20:06.30 | destinal | or hmm I guess a8 has either endian mode but armel seems to be the one commonly used for code on it |
| 20:06.36 | specing | But there are 3 subarches of the ARMv7 acritecture |
| 20:06.53 | mnemoc | specing: cortex-a* are all armv7a |
| 20:07.04 | specing | Ah ok |
| 20:07.12 | mnemoc | cortex-m* are armv7m, and so on |
| 20:07.56 | mnemoc | destinal: yes |
| 20:08.35 | mnemoc | specing: for those interested in a devkit $100 (and more the $65 we paid in this special order) is a very good price |
| 20:09.05 | specing | Is neon better than vfp? |
| 20:09.53 | specing | choosing between -mfpu=neon and -mfpu=vfp3-d16 |
| 20:11.13 | mnemoc | gentoo has lots of info in that topic |
| 20:12.12 | specing | That is what Im configuring :D |
| 20:12.38 | specing | I just read neon is newer on wikipedia |
| 20:13.18 | mnemoc | that's what I thought. it's the kind of question gentoo people asks |
| 20:14.05 | mnemoc | and yes, neon > vfp |
| 20:14.14 | specing | ofcourse |
| 20:14.15 | ka6sox | neon is hardware support...nice stuff. |
| 20:14.32 | specing | mnemoc: Im a ricer :D |
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| 20:15.01 | ka6sox | specing, I"m not...but use OpenEmbedded all the time so semi-ricer :D |
| 20:15.30 | mnemoc | hahaha |
| 20:18.45 | specing | is scared to put -mthumb in CFLAGS |
| 20:22.38 | mnemoc | what about just -mcpu=cortex-a8 ? :p |
| 20:23.05 | specing | I did that |
| 20:23.08 | specing | already |
| 20:23.50 | specing | I've read thumb-2 is almost as fast as regular ARM I-set |
| 20:25.15 | mnemoc | just forget about it, trust the compilerand move forward :p |
| 20:25.45 | specing | I've heard there was some galactic breakdown resulting from the use of thumb |
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| 20:35.56 | Gumboot | Does -mfpu=neon actually do anything without extra options like -fvectorise-stuff ? |
| 20:47.47 | specing | Gumboot: Im going to turn it on and see if it burns |
| 20:49.20 | specing | Ah, its already on |
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| 21:14.06 | Gumboot | Autovectorisation still has a long way to go before it becomes useful. |
| 21:16.40 | Gumboot | There are a few idioms you can use in loops to get better use out of it. |
| 21:17.21 | Gumboot | And I've been pushing, for a couple of months, for a particular modification to be made so that gcc can autovectorise a whole other class of loops it currently misses. |
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| 23:07.33 | hno | specing, On Cortex-A8 neon is generally a lot faster than vfp, but on A9 the field is different. Neon is not following IEEE math as closely however so it's not a simple question of selecting one or the other. |
| 23:07.53 | hno | vfp is alsi in hardware. |
| 23:10.18 | hno | specing, not all applications is thumb-compatible. But we by accident did compile 80% of Fedora in thumbs mode without too much issues, and in most cases one can mix Thumb and ARM-32 code freely. A notable exception is anything related to Qt. |
| 23:10.53 | hno | and Kernel can not be compiled in thumbs mode. |
| 23:28.35 | specing | <@ralos> specing: in my tests many things break when using -mthumb2 |
| 23:28.59 | specing | hno: So these are compile time issues and not runtime ones? |