| 01:17.46 | Ressy | so torhal |
| 01:18.19 | Ressy | apparently just the normal dump is more priority right now. api would have to talk to sapu about and plan with him |
| 01:48.07 | Torhal | Ressy: Considering the fact that the entire dump code is ad-hoc bullshit Ackis slapped together in a day, aside from my "OMFG WTFBBQ" cleanups I did when I saw it, and the fact that I just don't fucking care about the dump code whatsoever, the Sapu talk will almost definitely come first. |
| 01:48.45 | Torhal | I'd much rather provide a clean API for this type of thing than delete the existing dump code and write replacement code for it. |
| 01:49.21 | Torhal | Actually, I'd rather delete the dump code altogether and just give an API so people who want that sort of things can write it their own fucking selves. |
| 01:49.54 | Torhal | That's one of the things ARL does that... WHY? |
| 01:51.13 | Torhal | I got rid of Runeforging support because Ackis had been gone for years. I saw no point in it when it was added, other than "Blizzard used the TradeSkillFrame for it!" |
| 02:07.37 | Torhal | Ressy: You here? |
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| 02:21.17 | Ressy | Am now |
| 02:21.21 | Ressy | Was putting Nathan to bed. |
| 02:22.44 | Ressy | Torhal |
| 02:23.14 | Torhal | Ressy: Foof! |
| 02:23.24 | Ressy | so.. |
| 02:23.27 | Ressy | yawns |
| 02:24.25 | Torhal | You know what? That was just bullshit, Ressy. Apparently yawns are contagious even when originating in text. |
| 02:24.32 | Ressy | lol |
| 02:24.48 | Ressy | I'm wiped. |
| 02:24.50 | Ressy | but.. bread. |
| 02:24.52 | Ressy | shit. |
| 02:24.55 | Ressy | when does it finish already |
| 02:25.17 | Torhal | Considering the fact that I completely lack context... |
| 02:25.38 | Ressy | making bread so Nathan can have a sandwich for lunch tomorrow. |
| 02:25.56 | Torhal | Are you asking when the bread (that you are, I am assuming, baking) will be finished, or when your shit will be finished. |
| 02:26.01 | Torhal | Oh, oay. |
| 02:26.05 | Torhal | *okay |
| 02:26.12 | Ressy | 51 minutes. :( |
| 02:26.20 | Torhal | Ressy. |
| 02:26.23 | Torhal | Hey. |
| 02:26.26 | Torhal | How goes it? |
| 02:26.35 | Torhal | Just ditch that shit altogether. |
| 02:26.36 | Ressy | bah |
| 02:26.38 | Ressy | you? |
| 02:26.47 | Ressy | ditch what? |
| 02:26.58 | Torhal | Back on no-carbs. Fuck the "money savings" |
| 02:27.04 | Torhal | It's destroying me. |
| 02:27.34 | Torhal | Since I figured out what's been fucking with me for all these years, actually getting rid of it has made resuming a disaster. |
| 02:27.44 | Ressy | hmm? |
| 02:27.51 | Ressy | you ok? |
| 02:27.54 | Torhal | Like, feeling at least twice as worse as before I quit. |
| 02:28.00 | Ressy | ouch |
| 02:28.17 | Torhal | Yeah, getting better since I told Kelly "I can't fucking do this. |
| 02:28.37 | Torhal | I mean, I lived with this for decades without knowing that it was food-related. |
| 02:28.55 | Torhal | So I figured "I know what to expect. I need to conserve spending." |
| 02:29.22 | Torhal | Nope. My body said "You know what? I'm going to say FUCK YOU at LEAST twice as loud as before." |
| 02:32.48 | Ressy | :( |
| 02:34.25 | Torhal | So, Ressy... |
| 02:34.47 | Torhal | What was the impetus behind: [19:18:19] <+Ressy>apparently just the normal dump is more priority right now. api would have to talk to sapu about and plan with him |
| 02:34.58 | Torhal | Was this on Twitter, or...? |
| 02:35.49 | Ressy | talkign in their IRC channel |
| 02:36.23 | Ressy | their private IRC channel. lol |
| 02:38.45 | Torhal | Oh, okay. |
| 02:38.50 | Torhal | Fuck me, right? |
| 02:38.52 | Torhal | >.> |
| 02:38.56 | Torhal | <.< |
| 02:39.10 | Torhal | I've learned MUCH after years with Fisker. |
| 02:39.18 | Ressy | o.O |
| 02:39.48 | Torhal | Like how to make someone feel guilty WHILE being an asshole. |
| 02:40.48 | Torhal | Really, though... they need to talk to me. |
| 02:40.55 | Torhal | ORC or not. |
| 02:40.59 | Torhal | IRC |
| 02:41.27 | Torhal | I'm completely open to an API or similar. Just not in a vague ticket. |
| 02:41.57 | Torhal | "We need this information. It's similar to PSEUDOCODE!!!!!!!!" |
| 02:42.40 | Torhal | No. Fuck that. With a tire iron. Tell me -exactly- what you're asking for. |
| 02:43.38 | Ressy | lol |
| 02:44.39 | Torhal | If you could open a direct line of inquiry, I'd love you so much that I'd never Twitter-stalk you. |
| 02:44.56 | Torhal | Oh, wait. That's absurd anyway. |
| 02:45.28 | Torhal | I mean, the latter part of my previous statement. :D |
| 02:45.48 | Torhal | Rather, the one previous to the latter. |
| 02:45.53 | Ressy | as in API requirements? |
| 02:49.21 | Torhal | Ressy: Yup. If I didn't have a middle-man (no disrespect to you)) it would make things easier. Though if that's the route they require... You're better than tickets. Tickets can't say "No, that doesn't actually describe a goddamn thing at all." |
| 02:50.09 | Ressy | Sapu? |
| 02:50.29 | Ressy | Was requested by Muffin |
| 02:50.38 | Ressy | one of his devs |
| 02:51.28 | Ressy | @Sapu94 is on twitter.. |
| 02:51.47 | Torhal | If he's what's required. I don't know his team dynamic, and I'm guessing based on that ticket and what you're saying now that his "devs" are just people he trusts not to fuck up his infrastructure. |
| 02:52.02 | Ressy | fix backend things.. |
| 02:52.06 | Ressy | minor code fixes. |
| 02:52.16 | Ressy | reboot the website |
| 02:52.26 | Torhal | Ok, so "helpers" or "maintainers" and not actual devs. |
| 02:52.59 | Ressy | some do minor. |
| 02:53.01 | Ressy | more like me? |
| 02:54.36 | Torhal | Well, not really. |
| 02:54.50 | Torhal | You do make decisions that you're comfortable making. |
| 02:55.03 | Torhal | Something I think (or at least hope) I encouraged. |
| 02:55.57 | Torhal | But when it comes to asking for an addition to a feature I find useless versus asking for an API TSM can use directly to be more useful to its users... |
| 02:56.31 | Torhal | I prefer talking to someone who is comfortable making a decision about the latter. |
| 02:58.36 | Torhal | That ticket reeks of "Oh, ARL has this neat feature that kinda-sorta works. I think we could use that to make our users export shit, that they would then have to import to us..." |
| 02:59.20 | Torhal | The better method would be "TSM needs information that ARL has. We would like a way to query ARL directly for that information so we can display it in a manner our users would find useful." |
| 03:00.10 | Torhal | Make sense? |
| 03:00.18 | Ressy | ya |
| 03:00.23 | Torhal | Caveat: I'm drunk. |
| 03:00.29 | Ressy | lol |
| 03:01.19 | Torhal | If you've noticed any excessive "hostility" (read as "not putting up with silly nonsense") that's why. |
| 03:01.29 | Ressy | sokies |
| 03:03.03 | Torhal | But yeah... If I'm going to make changes to ARL, especially for another AddOn's benefit, it isn't going to be siomething that's not well-thought-out. |
| 04:19.54 | Ressy | I set up a personal twitter account today. |
| 04:20.06 | Ressy | No more personal stuff on the public @ressym |
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