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| 03:44.57 | Torhal | !api unitismounted |
| 03:44.57 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'unitismounted'. |
| 03:45.02 | Torhal | !api ismounted |
| 03:45.02 | lua_bot | IsMounted: Returns whether the player is mounted (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsMounted) |
| 04:13.44 | Zhinjio | hey torhal |
| 04:52.24 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yo man |
| 04:52.27 | Torhal | How goes? |
| 04:52.48 | Zhinjio | alright |
| 04:52.54 | Zhinjio | making slow progress on BGC |
| 04:53.31 | Torhal | Sweet |
| 04:54.45 | Zhinjio | main guild listing is done |
| 04:54.49 | Zhinjio | working on the permissions screen now |
| 04:56.59 | Torhal | Good deal. |
| 04:57.13 | Torhal | I'm trying to work up motivation to code |
| 04:57.29 | Torhal | Worked 1pm-10pm last night, then 7am-4pm today |
| 04:57.35 | Zhinjio | I was tending to the baby most of the day. I have no idea if the stuff I added in today is even usable. |
| 04:57.37 | Torhal | Passed out soon after coming home |
| 04:57.42 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 04:57.50 | Zhinjio | split shift sucks |
| 04:57.57 | Torhal | And there is no reason for it |
| 04:58.14 | Torhal | I've been working one shift or the other, but never night then day |
| 04:58.26 | Torhal | Always a day or two off in-between time shifts |
| 04:59.19 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 05:12.25 | Zhinjio | question about upvalues |
| 05:12.27 | Zhinjio | do you have a moment? |
| 05:33.00 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Was AFK. What's up? |
| 05:34.45 | Zhinjio | how comfortable are you with upvalues? |
| 05:34.57 | Torhal | Rather. |
| 05:35.04 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:35.10 | Zhinjio | I want to make sure I understand them correctly |
| 05:35.24 | Zhinjio | I'm reading the lua manual on them, an... well, its not gelling right |
| 05:35.36 | Zhinjio | gimme a minute, need to collect my thoughts and come up with a good example. |
| 05:36.40 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:36.51 | Zhinjio | this is maybe partially a scoping question and partially about upvalues |
| 05:36.57 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:37.02 | Zhinjio | so file1 |
| 05:37.05 | Zhinjio | defines two functions |
| 05:37.10 | Zhinjio | createFrames |
| 05:37.12 | Zhinjio | and updateFrames |
| 05:37.22 | Zhinjio | file2 (the main addon file) |
| 05:37.27 | Zhinjio | calls both of these functions |
| 05:37.32 | Zhinjio | typically, createframes once |
| 05:37.44 | Zhinjio | and updateframes when the condition requiring the frame's contents to update are met |
| 05:37.59 | Zhinjio | in createframes |
| 05:38.13 | Zhinjio | I have a reference to ... say, a button |
| 05:38.20 | Zhinjio | lets call it stupidButton |
| 05:38.38 | Zhinjio | for the moment, lets assume its a local to CreateFrames |
| 05:38.41 | Torhal | A reference to or a variable named? |
| 05:38.52 | Torhal | A reference implies that it is defined elsewhere |
| 05:38.53 | Zhinjio | variable named |
| 05:38.56 | Torhal | Ok |
| 05:38.58 | Zhinjio | for the moment |
| 05:39.14 | Zhinjio | I create the button, assign its functions, texture it, blah blah blah |
| 05:39.23 | Zhinjio | once I leave CreateFrames, it falls out of scope |
| 05:39.27 | Torhal | Right |
| 05:39.40 | Zhinjio | and (since CreateFrames is only called once) ... its basically inaccessible to other code at that point |
| 05:39.51 | Zhinjio | its OnClick and such, though... |
| 05:39.57 | Zhinjio | they can still refer to it |
| 05:40.14 | Zhinjio | since (if I'm not abusing the term), they have the upvalue of the frame stored within them |
| 05:40.24 | Torhal | Right, because the UI code has a reference to it |
| 05:40.28 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:40.32 | Zhinjio | alright |
| 05:40.35 | Torhal | Via anchoring/parenting. |
| 05:41.08 | Zhinjio | well... or at minimum, they get "self" defined from the call |
| 05:41.17 | Zhinjio | but yes |
| 05:41.18 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:41.27 | Zhinjio | alright, now lets say that my UpdateFrames |
| 05:41.32 | Zhinjio | ALSO needs to reference that button |
| 05:41.55 | Torhal | Set a member on the frame object which refers to the button. |
| 05:42.03 | Zhinjio | well, hold on |
| 05:42.05 | Zhinjio | lemme finish |
| 05:42.07 | Torhal | kk |
| 05:42.20 | Zhinjio | since both UpdateFrames and CreateFrames are defined in the same file |
| 05:42.37 | Zhinjio | I can just create a local to *that file* that both procedures can use |
| 05:42.48 | Zhinjio | and that becomes, I think, an upvalue to both functions |
| 05:42.48 | Torhal | Right. "local stupidButton" |
| 05:42.49 | Zhinjio | no? |
| 05:42.53 | Torhal | Yes. |
| 05:42.54 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:43.03 | Zhinjio | but its still not accessible to file2 |
| 05:43.07 | Torhal | Right. |
| 05:43.44 | Zhinjio | would you consider doing that an efficient programming method, or should I do as you were suggesting storing it in some member on the frame (or other global) |
| 05:43.59 | Torhal | Any variable created in file-scope can be used in any function within the file, unless the function itself declares a local variable of the same name. |
| 05:44.25 | Torhal | It's efficient and correct so long as the other file doesn't need to access the button. |
| 05:44.32 | Zhinjio | right |
| 05:45.36 | Zhinjio | I guess I was more ... sanity checking my understanding than anything else. |
| 05:45.37 | Zhinjio | thanks |
| 05:46.28 | Torhal | np :) |
| 05:46.52 | Torhal | I just look at it from an OO perspective. |
| 05:47.01 | Torhal | Anonymous namespaces and static variables and such |
| 05:48.09 | Zhinjio | my "classical" education in programming finished before OO existed. *grin* |
| 05:48.31 | Zhinjio | and my experimental education into such things was certainly not comprehensive |
| 05:51.44 | Zhinjio | next question |
| 05:52.03 | Torhal | Yah, I had to shoot myself in the face a few times with C++ |
| 05:52.18 | Torhal | I compensated by completely re-factoring DikuMUD into C++ |
| 05:52.20 | Torhal | Heh |
| 05:52.23 | Zhinjio | is there a speed/memory/other advantage to using an upvalue inside a file scope vs. attaching a variable to the global scope, say like... addon.stupidButton (or similar) |
| 05:53.14 | Torhal | That's mainly an interface issue - you don't want to pollute the global namespace, so you only introduce one object to it - the addon object. From there, you define its interface. |
| 05:53.55 | Torhal | If something is needed between the two files, you do that. That does, however, incur a table lookup since the addon object is basically a table |
| 05:54.03 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 05:54.11 | Torhal | From there, if you're using it a lot, you make a local variable so you're only doing the lookup once. |
| 05:54.20 | Zhinjio | aren't upvalues ultimately a table lookup as well, though? |
| 05:55.05 | Torhal | They're a reference. "local dumbButton = addon.stupidButton" performs the table lookup once and assigns its return value to the local variable. |
| 05:55.20 | Zhinjio | no, I mean in comparison to the upvalue mentioned earlier |
| 05:55.33 | Zhinjio | I understand what you just said. Yes |
| 05:55.34 | Torhal | They're a stack lookup. |
| 05:55.43 | Zhinjio | ah, and presumably faster then |
| 05:55.47 | Torhal | Yup. |
| 05:55.50 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:56.59 | Zhinjio | all good now, I think. Thanks |
| 05:57.14 | Zhinjio | I will have forgotten it again by next week |
| 05:57.16 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 05:57.32 | Torhal | :P |
| 05:57.41 | Torhal | It's called sleep. Helps with memory retention. |
| 06:02.09 | Zhinjio | wow. I'll have to look into that. |
| 06:02.21 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 06:30.02 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 06:30.07 | Zhinjio | I used another thing I found in your code |
| 06:30.18 | Zhinjio | the "relative" anchoring based on position in a list |
| 06:30.24 | Zhinjio | I know it isn't "yours" per se |
| 06:30.41 | Zhinjio | but someone look at our code side by side would know *grin* |
| 06:42.37 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Hehe |
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| 15:19.28 | Stanzilla | mr AckisWork |
| 15:19.46 | Stanzilla | have you looked at the link I posted you? |
| 15:21.46 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: uh I never saw it |
| 15:22.07 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: team ice killed yogg 0 and a trial ninjad the mount |
| 15:22.11 | Stanzilla | and fraps'd it |
| 15:22.42 | Stanzilla | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=121729 |
| 15:22.48 | AckisWork | omg lol |
| 15:26.51 | AckisWork | lol that was a fail ninja |
| 15:27.52 | Stanzilla | I can't see what he wrote in the chat |
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| 17:06.21 | Ackis | heya pompy |
| 17:09.06 | Torhal | Ackis: Don't disturb him - he's drinking moonshine. |
| 17:09.37 | Ackis | yummy |
| 17:09.50 | pompy | Ackis: hey |
| 17:11.04 | pompy | (8/18/2009 1:08:47 PM) Shadowed: Ackis pong .. in #wowace |
| 17:11.11 | Ackis | yah I pinged him |
| 17:12.38 | pompy | what was wrong with eth ATSW integration for ARL"? |
| 17:14.05 | Ackis | look at the comments on WoWI, someone posted something that takes into account trade junkies or something so I just decided to use that as well |
| 17:14.29 | pompy | ah never heard of trade junkies |
| 17:15.25 | Ackis | I've heard it tossed around |
| 17:17.10 | pompy | the 'scan' button has been getting like 'tainted' i guess u can say in ATSW lately, like it would be unclickable |
| 17:17.15 | pompy | so maybe what you did may fix it |
| 17:18.41 | Ackis | ah |
| 17:18.46 | Ackis | hopefully |
| 17:18.52 | Ackis | i've always had issues w/ atsw |
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| 19:48.27 | asmodai | Oh, that's scary :) |
| 19:49.27 | Ackis | hai |
| 19:49.40 | asmodai | O HAI |
| 19:54.01 | pompy | Ackis: ping |
| 20:02.11 | Ackis | is about to push a controvertial change |
| 20:02.22 | Ackis | i speel gud eh? |
| 20:03.54 | asmodai | indeeeeed |
| 20:04.19 | Ackis | ~wowspell 8895 |
| 20:04.20 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=8895 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=8895 |
| 20:10.57 | asmodai | Oh, useful |
| 20:11.30 | Ackis | *Add functionality so that if you are alliance you don't see the horde hog for engs and the other way around. Testing this out and if it works this will be applied to the new dual faction recipes. |
| 20:11.32 | Ackis | just added that in |
| 20:11.42 | Ackis | need someone to test it w/ engineering and report back if shit blows up |
| 20:11.49 | asmodai | Saw the message on the other channel |
| 20:12.01 | asmodai | Hmmm, not sure if I have an engie that high level |
| 20:12.15 | asmodai | Still installing all the addons I used to use |
| 20:12.30 | Ackis | doesn't need to be |
| 20:12.44 | Ackis | just need someone to scan and tell me that both don't show up lol |
| 20:13.19 | asmodai | ah |
| 20:13.26 | asmodai | I can do that I think |
| 20:13.50 | Ackis | if you don't mind I"d aprreciate it |
| 20:13.53 | Ackis | wow i'm failing at typing |
| 20:14.01 | asmodai | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/12218/monster-omelet/ XD |
| 20:15.34 | asmodai | nice ARL version number btw |
| 20:15.39 | asmodai | 3.2AntiVirSucks? |
| 20:15.42 | asmodai | XD |
| 20:15.46 | Ackis | lol |
| 20:15.47 | Ackis | yah |
| 20:16.01 | Ackis | that virus scanner was seeing "Wormhole Generator" and causing issues |
| 20:16.23 | asmodai | Mmm, I need to toggle ARL to alpha I guess for this within curse? |
| 20:17.06 | Ackis | yes please |
| 20:17.25 | asmodai | ok, just verifying if I at least know some stuff still :) |
| 20:17.51 | asmodai | grabbing r2338 |
| 20:22.10 | asmodai | ok |
| 20:22.16 | asmodai | found my character with engineering |
| 20:22.29 | asmodai | Ackis: How's the easiest way for me to check |
| 20:22.37 | asmodai | Ackis: bear with me, haven't touched WoW in over 9 months |
| 20:22.48 | asmodai | So I'm rusty as heck |
| 20:23.21 | Ackis | ok, mkae sure the filter is set to show all factions, then do a scan of engineering, scroll down to the bottom and look to see how many hoppers are there |
| 20:23.30 | Ackis | pompy: that's right? right? lol |
| 20:24.11 | asmodai | ok |
| 20:24.11 | asmodai | General tab |
| 20:24.11 | asmodai | has faction checked |
| 20:24.11 | asmodai | so it should show both factions |
| 20:24.13 | asmodai | then searching on 'hop' |
| 20:24.15 | pompy | Ackis: is what right? |
| 20:24.21 | asmodai | only shows me Mekgineers Hopper |
| 20:24.28 | asmodai | with 2 alliance locations |
| 20:24.33 | asmodai | don't see any Horde locations |
| 20:24.57 | asmodai | make that Chopper, not Hopper |
| 20:26.09 | asmodai | Why do I see 4 x Mechanized Snow Goggles though? |
| 20:26.42 | asmodai | with apparently the same data |
| 20:27.23 | asmodai | Hmmm, Cloth, Leather, Mail and Plate variants? |
| 20:29.03 | Ackis | asmodai: yes |
| 20:29.16 | Ackis | asmodai: do you see the mechano hog? |
| 20:30.19 | asmodai | If Isearch for hog I get told 'no hits' |
| 20:30.32 | Ackis | sweet it works then |
| 20:31.39 | Ackis | how many total recipes do you have listed there? |
| 20:32.51 | asmodai | my text at the bottom says: |
| 20:33.01 | asmodai | x / 250 |
| 20:34.11 | Ackis | ah ty :) |
| 20:35.07 | Torhal | Ackis: Yo |
| 20:35.24 | Ackis | sup |
| 20:35.26 | Ackis | you have a nap/ |
| 20:35.33 | Torhal | No, I didn't. :D |
| 20:35.39 | Torhal | How do you want this displayed? |
| 20:35.45 | Torhal | At the moment, it sho0ws obtain level |
| 20:35.55 | Torhal | s/sho0ws/shows/ |
| 20:36.08 | Ackis | could add the skill ups beside it I suppose? |
| 20:36.13 | Ackis | in their respective colour? |
| 20:36.35 | Torhal | I'll try that but the first number will probably be redundant. |
| 20:37.39 | Ackis | just do it for now to see how it looks, there's some that are orange when you get them, some that are yellow, etc |
| 20:39.14 | Ackis | Torhal: see what I did w/ engineering and now blacksmithing? |
| 20:39.31 | Torhal | I saw the changelogs |
| 20:40.56 | Ackis | you agree/disagree with that? |
| 20:41.11 | Ackis | pompy is quiet so I'm assuming he agrees ;) |
| 20:41.27 | pompy | i guess |
| 20:41.34 | pompy | i want that total count thing changed :( |
| 20:42.11 | Ackis | it's not going to be pompy, it would require substantial code in that small function |
| 20:44.38 | Torhal | Fuckledge. |
| 20:44.51 | Torhal | ttAdd() isn't making this easy due to the way it handles color :P |
| 20:45.02 | Torhal | ~fisker++ |
| 20:46.08 | Ackis | rofl |
| 20:46.13 | Torhal | Ackis: There is no simple way to add this to the tooltip. |
| 20:46.59 | Ackis | hmm colourized? |
| 20:47.18 | Torhal | Right, due to the way ttAdd() does color. It accepts string1, color1, string2, color2 |
| 20:47.47 | Torhal | I can add all the numbers/colors but ttAdd will fuck it all up with its own color escapes |
| 20:48.05 | Ackis | hmm |
| 20:48.12 | Ackis | well add it w/o colour for now, maybe it won't look shitty |
| 20:48.27 | Torhal | I can't. |
| 20:49.05 | Ackis | kj |
| 20:49.06 | Torhal | It won't make sense - the second column of the skill line is colored by the char's current skill with the recipe |
| 20:49.06 | Ackis | er |
| 20:49.06 | Ackis | k |
| 20:49.20 | Torhal | Er, current skill level compared to when the recipe can be obtained |
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| 20:52.00 | Ackis | heya Jim-Bim |
| 21:22.07 | Jim-Bim | hey ackis |
| 21:24.25 | nicoli_s | hey Ackis, poke yer head in #curseforge if you dont mind, somebody needs a mod |
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