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| 18:45.48 | Zhinjio | G"morning. |
| 18:45.53 | Zhinjio | er, afternoon, whatever. |
| 18:46.00 | Zhinjio | Torhal: whats the deal with the ToS? |
| 19:25.49 | Torhal | Zhinjio: http://defcon.org/html/defcon-17/dc-17-speakers.html#Mooney |
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| 19:33.37 | Zhinjio | reads. |
| 19:34.17 | Ackis | allo |
| 19:34.24 | Zhinjio | thats pretty whacked. |
| 19:35.39 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yes |
| 19:35.55 | Torhal | http://btp.dod.net/ |
| 19:37.04 | Zhinjio | so tell me how this has to do with the ToS? |
| 19:37.36 | Zhinjio | I mean, clearly, they seem to have their heads up their asses and what it means to participate in a gaming community that wants to play the game, first and foremost. |
| 19:37.57 | Zhinjio | has Blizz reacted to that? |
| 19:37.59 | Zhinjio | them? |
| 19:39.11 | Torhal | No idea. But it's against the botting portion of the ToS AFAIK |
| 19:39.17 | Ackis | Torhal: did you see the project I didn't approve for you? |
| 19:39.28 | Torhal | Ackis: Where? CF or WA? |
| 19:39.34 | Zhinjio | oh yeah, that violates,.... many parts of the ToS. |
| 19:39.44 | Ackis | Torhal: WA I think lol |
| 19:39.49 | Torhal | If you're referring to mine, I know you didn't approve it. Nor did anyone else. |
| 19:40.27 | Ackis | I marked it as changes required :P |
| 19:40.28 | Ackis | and brb |
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| 19:40.59 | Ackis | wicked |
| 19:41.02 | Ackis | ~love Kaelten |
| 19:41.03 | purl | If you love Kaelten so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 19:41.17 | Jim-Bim | wb ackis |
| 19:41.22 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:41.28 | Kaelten | I hooked him up witha znc server |
| 19:41.37 | Kaelten | so he can get around the mmbit ban |
| 19:41.41 | Torhal | Whee |
| 19:41.43 | Ackis | aye |
| 19:41.50 | Jim-Bim | ackis: can you approve http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/monkey-speed/files/ ? |
| 19:42.24 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: I got it. |
| 19:42.30 | Jim-Bim | thanks |
| 19:43.45 | Kaelten | unrelated I forced him to join a channel |
| 19:43.46 | Kaelten | lolz |
| 19:44.15 | Jim-Bim | Torhal: GearGauge seems to not work for me :P |
| 19:44.17 | Torhal | Ackis: I don't know what you did to my project, but it no longer exists. |
| 19:44.30 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: How do you mean? |
| 19:44.42 | Ackis | haha |
| 19:44.46 | Jim-Bim | ./gg errors and doesn't work |
| 19:45.01 | Torhal | Latest version? |
| 19:45.21 | Jim-Bim | yeah |
| 19:46.12 | Jim-Bim | I think lins are missing |
| 19:46.18 | Jim-Bim | but I installed with libs |
| 19:46.33 | Torhal | Can you ticket the errors? |
| 19:46.46 | Torhal | Ackis: It doesn't exist at all. I didn't even get an e-mail about it. |
| 19:46.57 | Jim-Bim | sure |
| 19:47.42 | Ackis | Torhal: really? that's super strange |
| 19:47.54 | Torhal | It's not even listed under Deleted projects |
| 19:48.07 | Torhal | ckknight: ^^ |
| 19:48.17 | Ackis | Torhal: shouldn't be, it should be changes required |
| 19:48.26 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 19:48.27 | Ackis | brb again |
| 19:48.37 | Torhal | Ackis seems to have nuked a new project of mine. |
| 19:48.40 | Jim-Bim | does "LibDataBroker-1.1.lua" need an own folder or is it directly in libs? |
| 19:48.42 | ckknight | I need a link |
| 19:48.46 | ckknight | @project gear-gauge |
| 19:48.48 | Repo | ckknight: No project found that matches 'gear-gauge' |
| 19:48.49 | Torhal | It doens't seem to exist at all and I have no e-mail. |
| 19:48.54 | Torhal | No, Syllabus |
| 19:48.54 | ckknight | @project geargauge |
| 19:48.58 | ckknight | @project syllabus |
| 19:49.01 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/geargauge/. GearGauge. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 days ago. Tickets: 1/3 |
| 19:49.03 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/syllabus/. Syllabus. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. Work on Collectinator first please. :P. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 34 hours ago |
| 19:49.12 | Jim-Bim | lol |
| 19:49.15 | Torhal | Hahaha |
| 19:49.30 | Torhal | But that doens't explain why I can't find it and received no e-mail. |
| 19:49.38 | Jim-Bim | ackis: I'm back now, too :P |
| 19:50.02 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: It should be in its own folder. Look at embeds.xml |
| 19:50.15 | ckknight | Torhal: email probably got lost. |
| 19:50.22 | Jim-Bim | well, it doesn't have one under GearGauge/Libs |
| 19:50.44 | Jim-Bim | its GearGauge\Libs\LibDataBroker-1.1.lua |
| 19:50.47 | Torhal | ckknight: But why isn't it listed under my projects? |
| 19:50.58 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: Weird. |
| 19:51.04 | ckknight | lemme check your projects |
| 19:51.25 | ckknight | hmm |
| 19:51.43 | Torhal | Libs/LibQTipClick-1.1: url: git://git.wowace.com/wow/libqtipclick-1-1/mainline.git |
| 19:51.56 | Torhal | That's in my .pkgmets, so the LibQTipClick-1.1 folder should be under Libs |
| 19:52.07 | Torhal | s/mets/meta/ |
| 19:52.53 | Jim-Bim | LibQTipClick is fine, LibDataBroker-1.1.lua is missing |
| 19:53.00 | Torhal | Oooo |
| 19:53.28 | Torhal | That should be in Libs |
| 19:53.30 | Torhal | Not its own folder |
| 19:53.38 | Jim-Bim | orly? |
| 19:53.45 | Torhal | The only reason the others are is because .pkgmeta pulls 'em in that way |
| 19:53.53 | Torhal | I hard-embed LDB |
| 19:53.56 | Jim-Bim | but I get "Message: ...ddOns\GearGauge\Libs\LibDBIcon-1.0\LibDBIcon-1.0.lua line 41: |
| 19:53.56 | Jim-Bim | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.15 | Torhal | That's because I fucked up. |
| 19:54.33 | Torhal | It's trying to load LibDBIcon before LibDataBroker |
| 19:54.39 | Torhal | And apparently you have no other LDB addons |
| 19:54.45 | Torhal | Because nobody else gets that error :) |
| 19:55.09 | Jim-Bim | yeah, I always test new addons without any other addons enabled |
| 19:55.19 | Torhal | :D |
| 19:55.22 | Torhal | Fixing now. |
| 19:56.05 | Ackis | Jim-Bim: test collectinator integration? ;) |
| 19:56.14 | Ackis | pompy: ping |
| 19:56.48 | pompy | si? |
| 19:57.01 | Ackis | you asked me about something being fixed last night can you relink? |
| 19:57.52 | ckknight | Torhal: check your projects now. |
| 19:59.08 | Torhal | ckknight: Ok, it's now listed under "In-between projects" |
| 19:59.15 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: Ok, grab the latest alpha |
| 20:00.02 | ckknight | Torhal: I approved it. |
| 20:00.04 | ckknight | btw |
| 20:00.10 | Torhal | Hehe, thankye :) |
| 20:00.46 | Ackis | :( |
| 20:00.54 | Ackis | ckknight: didn't you see the status I applied to it? |
| 20:01.05 | ckknight | yea, and I approved it with the reason "Ackis' douchiness" |
| 20:01.12 | Torhal | ROFLMAO |
| 20:01.23 | Ackis | lol |
| 20:01.25 | Zhinjio | I was wondering what the vinegar smell was |
| 20:01.30 | Torhal | Haha |
| 20:01.37 | Ackis | Torhal: did you at least see the status message? :P |
| 20:01.45 | Torhal | Yes |
| 20:01.48 | Ackis | kk <3 |
| 20:02.05 | Torhal | Did you see the drama on the forums about LibQTip? :) |
| 20:02.20 | Zhinjio | sighs. I hate drama. |
| 20:02.22 | Zhinjio | what now |
| 20:02.26 | Ackis | yah people are annoyed that you merged the two? |
| 20:02.38 | Zhinjio | qtip and qtipclick are now one? |
| 20:02.39 | Torhal | Elkano added a new mouse-aware API to it and now Adirelle and Tristanian are all "WTF?" and Tristanian said "May as well call it Tablet-3.0" |
| 20:03.15 | Zhinjio | sighs. |
| 20:03.55 | Torhal | It's a rather elegant implementation, due to the fact that it's actually in the core. |
| 20:04.07 | Torhal | It's more flexible than LQTC because of that. |
| 20:05.19 | Zhinjio | so... qtc going away? |
| 20:05.28 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Are you sighing because they were merged or because of the "drama"? |
| 20:05.33 | Zhinjio | or is this drama gonna force it to branch of something? |
| 20:05.39 | Zhinjio | because of the drama. |
| 20:05.42 | Torhal | Ah |
| 20:05.51 | Zhinjio | I don't care what happens to code. I'll roll with whatever happens, code-wise |
| 20:06.05 | Ackis | ^ |
| 20:06.07 | Zhinjio | soemtimes its inconvenient because I have to do work when things get changed, but whatever. |
| 20:06.14 | Torhal | Well, people can still use LQTC if they want, or they can migrate to the built-in API which, IMHO, is more powerful and has less overhead - no CallbackHandler involved. |
| 20:06.37 | Ackis | have you migrated ARL over? |
| 20:06.38 | Ackis | ;) |
| 20:06.57 | Torhal | My main concern was that the cell/whatever be accessible as it is in LQTC since I talked you and a couple of others through making Dewdrop-esque functionality |
| 20:07.00 | Zhinjio | do you think that the ensuing drama will cause a branch? |
| 20:07.15 | ckknight | branching can only occur when sufficient motivation exists. |
| 20:07.33 | Torhal | If so I'll be the one to branch. I'll simply remove the click stuff from LQT and release a 1.1 - I'd been wanting to clean up the core anyway |
| 20:07.37 | Torhal | It uses way too much CPU |
| 20:07.38 | Zhinjio | people being pissy is often sufficient motivation |
| 20:07.54 | Torhal | It uses select() like a motherfucker. |
| 20:08.47 | Torhal | Then 1.1 will be click-API plus other changes and people can happily use 1.0 plus LQTC 1.1 |
| 20:08.59 | Torhal | I know I just said that wrong but you get what I mean. |
| 20:09.29 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 20:09.57 | Zhinjio | I'll give it a little bit before I make changes to let the nonsense settle down, then do wahtever seems to be the prevailing "right" method |
| 20:10.13 | Torhal | Ammo was bitching about its CPU usage, and I thought he was just being a dick. Then I saw that GearGauge takes at least one second to generate a list of 300 names |
| 20:10.49 | Torhal | That tells me there's way too much processing going on. |
| 20:10.53 | Ackis | Torhal: chances are he was being a dick regardless of what he says |
| 20:11.31 | Zhinjio | its possible that he was being a dick *and* being right, though. I grant you that. |
| 20:11.37 | Zhinjio | Its pretty much a given that he's being a dick. |
| 20:11.41 | aesir | *cough* 2187-nolib "failed download" |
| 20:12.20 | aesir | And you combined LQT/LQTC into Tablet 3.0? Awesome. One step closer to the Grand Unifying Library of Everything. |
| 20:12.36 | aesir | ALL UR CODE R BELONG TO US |
| 20:13.07 | aesir | Screw it, I'm going to head that project myself. I'll just copypasta all code snippets into one BIG HONKIN FILE. |
| 20:13.13 | Zhinjio | sings along... "Changes come ... keep your dignity ... take the high road.... take it like a man" |
| 20:13.48 | Ackis | @ticket arl 673 |
| 20:13.49 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/673 - Add expansion information to recipes. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Defect. Updated: 11 days ago. Component: Recipe Database. Milestone: 1.0 Release. Status: Accepted. Priority: Critical. Assignee: pompachomp. Votes: 0. Comments: 3 |
| 20:13.52 | Ackis | @ticket arl 674 |
| 20:14.05 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/674 - Add levelling information to recipes. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Defect. Updated: 11 days ago. Component: Recipe Database. Milestone: 1.0 Release. Status: Accepted. Priority: Critical. Assignee: pompachomp. Votes: 0. Comments: 1 |
| 20:15.40 | Ackis | Jim-Bim: I asked pompy to work on some of those, if you don't have a wow account yet would you be able to knock off one profession for me? |
| 20:15.57 | Jim-Bim | I have now |
| 20:16.24 | Jim-Bim | and I worked on a tool which inserts missing trainer data into arl databases |
| 20:16.45 | Jim-Bim | so I hope people still find more missing trainers :P |
| 20:17.23 | Ackis | you did? |
| 20:18.21 | Jim-Bim | yeah |
| 20:18.30 | Jim-Bim | I was to lazy to do it by hand |
| 20:18.41 | aesir | Oh I think I know what the problem is: "/uploads/18/368/125/AckisRecipeList-r2187-nolib.zip" was not found" |
| 20:18.51 | Jim-Bim | but by the time is got in a workable state, pompy already did most of them :< |
| 20:19.08 | Ackis | aye pompy rocks :) there's more out there I'm sure of it |
| 20:19.20 | aesir | I checked, there is only one pompy. |
| 20:19.26 | Ackis | lol |
| 20:19.28 | Ackis | ~lart aesir |
| 20:19.28 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to aesir, and goes postal |
| 20:20.29 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: Latest GG work for ya? |
| 20:20.34 | pompy | sigh |
| 20:20.53 | Torhal | pompy: No, we will NOT clone you. |
| 20:21.02 | Ackis | what's wrong pompy? |
| 20:21.02 | Jim-Bim | Torhal: yeah, works great |
| 20:21.12 | Torhal | ckknight won't give us the funds. He says it's his "hooker money" whatever the hell THAT means. |
| 20:21.27 | ckknight | I just thought that your mom could use it more than you. |
| 20:21.29 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: Good deal. |
| 20:21.36 | Torhal | BWAH |
| 20:21.42 | aesir | yowzaa. |
| 20:21.59 | Jim-Bim | pompy: please focus on the leveling and expansion information now :) |
| 20:22.05 | aesir | ckknight, could you please put back r2187-nolib? Or kill the person that took it away? |
| 20:22.16 | Torhal | aesir: It was eaten by a ravenout Grue. |
| 20:22.22 | Torhal | s/out/ous/ |
| 20:22.26 | aesir | Ohn, no not a grue. |
| 20:23.04 | aesir | alright, well, cc tells me it's there. But it's not. It's like a big GIANT MISSTERY |
| 20:23.36 | Zhinjio | aesir: like your inability to spell? |
| 20:23.38 | Torhal | aesir: It was dah DEBBIL. |
| 20:23.48 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/repositories/mainline/packager/ |
| 20:23.49 | ckknight | blah |
| 20:23.53 | Zhinjio | I'm kidding. anyway. |
| 20:23.59 | aesir | This MISSTERY is adding to my MISSERY |
| 20:24.03 | Ackis | ckknight: ever figure out why arl takes 12 years to package? |
| 20:24.04 | Torhal | Zhinjio: ? |
| 20:24.11 | ckknight | Ackis: been busy with other things |
| 20:24.15 | aesir | ckknight, why is the world blue? |
| 20:24.16 | Torhal | Ackis: It has roughly twelve MILLION lines of code? |
| 20:24.20 | ckknight | it's mostly due to your overuse of externals |
| 20:24.24 | Zhinjio | I'm just in a give people a hard time mode today. Sorry |
| 20:24.47 | Ackis | overuse? :( |
| 20:24.51 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:24.55 | ckknight | don't worry about it. |
| 20:24.56 | Ackis | that's it! |
| 20:25.00 | Ackis | LibAckis inc! |
| 20:25.03 | Ackis | muhahahaha |
| 20:25.10 | Ackis | (I'll import libfarlander) |
| 20:25.11 | Torhal | The packager looks at ARL's .pkgmeta and sighs "Fuck, not this shit again..." |
| 20:25.39 | Zhinjio | you'd think with how often it has to do it, it'd pre-cache everything that never changes |
| 20:25.42 | Ackis | Torhal: we need moar externals! |
| 20:26.01 | Zhinjio | (which is to say, 99.9% of it) |
| 20:26.04 | Torhal | Ackis: Bring the packager to its knees? Figuratively speaking... |
| 20:26.05 | aesir | I'm telling you, I'm just going to copypaste all the addons into one big file. And call it LibGrandUnification. All addons can share it. |
| 20:27.01 | aesir | Addons will hence forth consist of TOC files (that no author ever updates). QuestHelper, ARL, Auctioneer? About 3k mem usage a piece. It'll be AWESOME. |
| 20:27.17 | Torhal | aesir: AddOnOS |
| 20:27.33 | aesir | You want oUF-xperl? It's in there. Like the sauce. |
| 20:27.53 | aesir | You want Cartographster 3.0? It's in there. |
| 20:28.12 | aesir | Bartenderoon? *nods* |
| 20:28.41 | Torhal | LibAesirBabblesIncessantly-1.0 |
| 20:29.10 | Ackis | DongleRockAce? |
| 20:29.14 | aesir | no no, you're doing it wrong. You won't need anymore Lib. and the ONE LIB you do need (mine) won't need stupid version info. |
| 20:29.48 | Ackis | Ace6 == Ace1, Ace2 and Ace3 in one! |
| 20:29.49 | aesir | All authors can add to the repo. Everything. As new addons are developed, the curse packager will add it to LibGrandUnification. |
| 20:29.53 | Torhal | Damn it Elkano! |
| 20:30.02 | Torhal | ... |
| 20:30.09 | Torhal | ...he didn't write the API docs for the new shit. |
| 20:30.14 | Torhal | /wrists |
| 20:32.05 | Zhinjio | damn, my baby *loves* chocolate. |
| 20:32.07 | Zhinjio | its like crack |
| 20:32.36 | Ackis | maybe she won't like crack then/ |
| 20:37.42 | Torhal | Meh |
| 20:37.45 | Torhal | I was gonna code today |
| 20:37.55 | Torhal | Then I had to crawl under my car and remove the fuel filter. |
| 20:37.57 | Torhal | Then replace it |
| 20:38.03 | Torhal | Then have the car still not fucking work. |
| 20:38.20 | Torhal | And now I have to write the API docs for the new LibQTip shit |
| 20:38.35 | Torhal | I blame purl. |
| 20:38.52 | aesir | nah, not enough drama on the topic yet. Don't write the docs until there is a veritable uproar. |
| 20:55.18 | pompy | http://www.wowprogress.com/guild/us/nathrezim/Sinergy my guild :) |
| 20:55.38 | Ackis | I thought you didn't like your guild pompy ? |
| 20:56.48 | pompy | doesnt really bother me anymore lol. |
| 20:56.58 | aesir | My realm is ranked last. Dead last. That is SO AWESOME. |
| 20:57.12 | pompy | ur realm? |
| 20:57.38 | aesir | US realm rankings basd on progression and achievements? Last place goes to..Wyrmrest Accord |
| 20:57.56 | aesir | there are guilds on other realms with more points. |
| 20:58.45 | ckknight | hey Ackis, you have a commit you wanna do for arl, don't you? ;-) |
| 20:58.56 | Ackis | pompy: have they done all the achievements for ULD25 yet/ |
| 20:59.00 | Ackis | ckknight: nope actually lol |
| 20:59.05 | ckknight | darn |
| 20:59.09 | ckknight | I made a packager change |
| 20:59.11 | ckknight | that I want tested |
| 20:59.29 | Ackis | I'll do a null commit |
| 20:59.54 | pompy | Ackis: that count toward glory? |
| 21:00.00 | pompy | of the heroic ulduar raider? |
| 21:00.01 | Ackis | pompy: aye the drake |
| 21:00.02 | pompy | nah |
| 21:00.07 | pompy | trhey got rusted though |
| 21:00.08 | ckknight | k, cool |
| 21:00.17 | Ackis | that's 10 man? |
| 21:00.20 | pompy | yeah |
| 21:00.48 | pompy | in uld25 they still need to work on firefight, i like the smell of saronite in the morning, and the yogg one. |
| 21:01.45 | Ackis | ckknight: commit made |
| 21:01.47 | pompy | they've been attempting vexaz hard mode for a couple weeks now. |
| 21:01.52 | Ackis | ah |
| 21:02.16 | pompy | ur guild get it? |
| 21:02.28 | Torhal | ckknight: We need to post awards for "Most useless commit messages." |
| 21:02.35 | Torhal | I'm sure daxdax would win. |
| 21:02.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:03.12 | Ackis | pompy: no, only hard modes my guild has done is xt pretty much and 4 towers flame leviathon |
| 21:03.26 | Ackis | Torhal: I swear in my commit notes so I win |
| 21:04.48 | pompy | http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/563/wowscrnshot062709014259g.jpg |
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| 22:34.37 | aesir | What's really cool, is that now that r2187-nolib doesn't appear on the project files page, curse client is complete oblivious to this fact and is still looking for it. lol hahaha you can't find it. I smell a bug report. "Ticket 847: Ackis Broke It" |
| 22:45.20 | ckknight | hmm |
| 22:45.23 | ckknight | that may be my bad |
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| 23:03.16 | aesir | ckknight - that started before you asked ackis in here if he had a commit pending |
| 23:03.28 | ckknight | yes, I know. |
| 23:04.11 | aesir | I opened a ticket with curse client (mostly as an attempt to be funny and entertain the dev) but it sort of highlights a rare issue/case where CC could use some logic to handle that situation. |
| 23:05.48 | aesir | curseclient.com routes to a domain camper. Sweet. Why did I type that domain? I wasn't thinking clearly. |
