| 03:48.29 | Torhal | Anyone alive? |
| 04:15.45 | Torhal | aesir. pompy: I changed code! ZOMFG! |
| 04:17.03 | aesir | I'm about to do the same. Namely update your lib's toc interface. Again. |
| 04:18.38 | Torhal | WTF? |
| 04:18.48 | Torhal | Who the hell reverted it? |
| 04:18.49 | Torhal | Bah |
| 04:19.16 | Torhal | I bet the fucking author changes were reverted as well. |
| 04:19.19 | Torhal | grumbles. |
| 04:20.04 | Torhal | aesir: Oh, nevermind. QTC you're talking about |
| 04:20.06 | Torhal | BWAH! |
| 04:21.06 | aesir | I'm on a mission. Libstub is going to be a hassle. |
| 04:21.16 | Torhal | ? |
| 04:21.18 | Torhal | Oh |
| 04:21.26 | Torhal | You will be slaughtered, more than likely. |
| 04:21.45 | Torhal | I'd file a ticket for that one. |
| 04:21.56 | aesir | Pretty sure I did. |
| 04:22.01 | Torhal | They've already banned a few people for fucking with ToCs |
| 04:22.10 | aesir | I'm ok with that. |
| 04:22.13 | Torhal | Heh |
| 04:22.57 | Torhal | All I know is that Ackis is going to have to seriously change the database layout for ARL to get the shit I just added to work. |
| 04:23.01 | aesir | I'd be open to learning about why they don't get updated though. |
| 04:23.17 | Torhal | Right now all it knows about is the current toon, and the stuff I added is meant to show the tradeskills for alts |
| 04:23.32 | Torhal | Well, as far as LibStub goes, there's no reason it shouldn't be updated. |
| 04:24.03 | Torhal | For other AddOns, the author hasn't deemed them ready yet and random people changing to the current version can be misleading. |
| 04:24.53 | Torhal | Generally, though, the people they've banned have also done stupid shit like "fixing" -nolibs versions or adding AddonLoader "support", which if not done right can actually break a mod |
| 04:26.03 | pompy | Torhal: what did you change!? lol |
| 04:26.30 | Torhal | pompy: Check filters, misc |
| 04:26.42 | Torhal | Click on the Alt TS button |
| 04:27.03 | Torhal | Impossible to make work as intended though until the underlying db is changed. |
| 04:29.50 | pompy | is it erroring out? or it run? |
| 04:38.26 | Torhal | It runs, but only shows the current toon |
| 04:38.41 | Torhal | There's no way to access other toons with the way the saved variables are set up. |
| 04:39.43 | pompy | I think the datamine scan should hange 'extra' to 'incorrect' and 'extra' should be like duplicate entries of trainer data for an item (which I have seen) |
| 04:41.57 | Torhal | No idea what you mean...haven't seen the dataminer nor have an idea how to :) |
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| 05:02.33 | AckisMobile | Ty torhal |
| 05:02.39 | Torhal | AckisMobile: Yo |
| 05:02.48 | Torhal | AckisMobile: I'm changing some db shit |
| 05:03.02 | AckisMobile | Oh? |
| 05:03.04 | Torhal | AckisMobile: There's no way accessing the tradeskill shit will work for alts |
| 05:03.20 | Torhal | So I added a global field to the defaults table and supporting code |
| 05:03.22 | Torhal | That works. |
| 05:03.27 | AckisMobile | Why not? |
| 05:03.44 | Torhal | Because db.profile only accesses THAT profile. |
| 05:03.46 | AckisMobile | Global? |
| 05:03.52 | Torhal | You only have access to YOUR tradeskill list |
| 05:04.04 | Torhal | So now there's db.global which only contains the tradeskill list |
| 05:04.46 | AckisMobile | Oh shit didn't think that |
| 05:05.04 | AckisMobile | Kk ty |
| 05:05.23 | Torhal | So I changed the current code to use global instead and removed the tradeskill-saving in db.profile since it's useless. |
| 05:05.54 | AckisMobile | Sounds good thanks |
| 05:06.08 | pompy | AckisMobile: jus wanted to throw this out there maybe lol. |
| 05:06.10 | pompy | I think the datamine scan should hange 'extra' to 'incorrect' and 'extra' should be like duplicate entries of trainer data for an item (which I have seen) |
| 05:06.10 | Torhal | np |
| 05:06.41 | AckisMobile | I didn't even think about that global thing... |
| 05:07.25 | AckisMobile | It would work for profiles but only if they were on the same profile |
| 05:08.09 | Torhal | Right. |
| 05:08.45 | Torhal | Also, at some point I'd like to go through and do some table cleanup. There are places where wipe() would be better than "table = nil" then "table = {}" |
| 05:08.48 | AckisMobile | Makes perfect sense... Do you have msn? |
| 05:09.10 | Torhal | I might. Lemme figure out a good IM program to use on Linux. |
| 05:09.18 | AckisMobile | Yah it was written before wipe existed |
| 05:09.22 | Torhal | I know :) |
| 05:09.35 | Torhal | I've been using ARL since it was a chatframe dump. |
| 05:10.00 | pompy | Torhal: pidgin |
| 05:10.02 | AckisMobile | Lol really? |
| 05:10.06 | pompy | pidgin.im |
| 05:10.08 | Torhal | AckisMobile: Yup :) |
| 05:10.10 | pompy | www.pidgin.im |
| 05:10.33 | Torhal | pompy: I'm using KDE. Don't wanna install a bunch of Gnome libs for an IM. |
| 05:10.41 | pompy | hm |
| 05:10.50 | Torhal | Checking out Kopete |
| 05:10.51 | AckisMobile | Nice lol its come aong long way |
| 05:10.57 | Torhal | Indeed :) |
| 05:12.20 | pompy | ARL == sexiness lol |
| 05:12.47 | AckisMobile | IRC on blackberry ftw |
| 05:13.17 | pompy | lol nice |
| 05:13.25 | pompy | is it a certain client on it? |
| 05:16.55 | AckisMobile | Yah its lame though |
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| 05:17.46 | pompy | hey remember when you asked me if the colors were working in arl? like on the recipe? .. well don't know if its 100% correct ... in the tradeskillui something is green, but in arl, its grey |
| 05:18.00 | Ackis | yah i need to manually add those |
| 05:18.14 | pompy | ah |
| 05:20.44 | Torhal | Ackis: Send me a PM so I can add you |
| 05:21.58 | pompy | Ackis: I have tabs in firefox of each wowhead page with the kind of profession trainer, filters, so I can go to each one lol. |
| 05:22.06 | Ackis | can't deliver it for some reason Torhal |
| 05:24.12 | pompy | Torhal: is ARL still running, with the current update? |
| 05:24.52 | Torhal | Yah, but I'm changing it to actually show alts |
| 05:25.24 | Torhal | Ackis: Did you want it to show only names, then when clicking a name show the tradeskills? |
| 05:25.44 | Ackis | Realm -> Name -> Tradeskill |
| 05:26.22 | Torhal | Ok. Fixing that up now. |
| 05:26.33 | Ackis | kk ty |
| 05:26.37 | Ackis | it works however? aka I can tag? |
| 05:27.45 | Torhal | No |
| 05:28.05 | Torhal | If you tag now, it'll show Name - Realm: Profession |
| 05:28.11 | Torhal | On one line. |
| 05:28.19 | Torhal | Plus, it won't do anything with the profession |
| 05:28.22 | Torhal | It's just a tolltip. |
| 05:28.29 | Torhal | s/tolltip/tooltip/ |
| 05:28.57 | Torhal | I haven't looked to see how to link the alt's tradeskill into the list |
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| 05:30.21 | Ackis | k I wasn't sure how to do that w/ libqtipclick just yet |
| 05:31.13 | Torhal | I can get that set up for you, but I don't know how to populate the list using an alt's tradeskill link |
| 05:33.06 | Ackis | basically it's click on the name and it prints it out into chat |
| 05:33.12 | Ackis | simple and effective |
| 05:33.25 | Torhal | Ah! I thought it was replacing the contents of the list on the left. |
| 05:33.38 | Torhal | "Your alt, Buttface, is missing these Tailoring recipes." |
| 05:34.21 | pompy | lol |
| 05:34.24 | Ackis | nah replacement might come down the road, gonna push out this first see how it is received |
| 05:35.21 | Torhal | Ok. I may need to finish this tomorrow, though. It's 1:30am and I need to look for a second job tomorrow. |
| 05:35.36 | Torhal | I'll plug on for a bit though Gonna go smoke. |
| 05:36.04 | Ackis | second job? |
| 05:38.28 | Torhal | Yah, I work at Wal-Mart part-time. Usually 32 hours, sometimes 24...and my child support was just jacked up to $310/month plus $50/month for insurance. |
| 05:38.43 | Torhal | So I'm basically living on charity. |
| 05:39.12 | Ackis | =/ |
| 05:41.18 | pompy | Ackis: I'm gonna work on the pages tomorrow ;p |
| 05:41.26 | Ackis | no big hurry |
| 05:41.41 | Ackis | all the shit I was gonna do tomorrow seems to be done /cheer? |
| 05:42.37 | pompy | like? lol |
| 05:42.56 | Ackis | the alt stuff |
| 05:44.16 | pompy | ah true, I think lol. I still have to update to latest revision |
| 06:15.32 | Ackis | [2009/05/18 00:08:01-57-x1]: AckisRecipeList-1.0 RC8 @project-revision@\ARLFrame.lua:25: Cannot find a library instance of "LibQTipClick-1.0". <-- that fixed btw? |
| 06:18.32 | Torhal | Ackis: Weird. |
| 06:18.56 | Torhal | ack I'll look at that now. BTW: The menu is done, you just need to add the printing to chatframe bit |
| 06:19.03 | Torhal | Ackis: ^^ |
| 06:19.27 | Ackis | ty |
| 06:20.31 | Torhal | Ackis: It shouldn't be giving that error...it's in the OptDeps |
| 06:20.48 | Ackis | k it I updated while game was loaded so wasn't sure |
| 06:21.04 | Torhal | I didn't add it to OptDeps...was already there |
| 06:21.15 | Ackis | hmm |
| 06:21.23 | Ackis | maybe typo's in .pkgmeta/embeds? |
| 06:22.18 | Torhal | If there is, I don't see it. |
| 06:22.32 | Torhal | I don't get that error, since I run disembedded. |
| 06:22.33 | Torhal | Blargh. |
| 06:22.40 | Ackis | i run disembedded as well |
| 06:22.52 | Ackis | it's a curse client bug |
| 06:23.10 | Torhal | Ah. Bastards. |
| 06:23.25 | Ackis | i don't think i use anything that embeds that lib |
| 06:23.32 | Ackis | so it doesn't get downloaded til I tag again |
| 06:23.38 | Torhal | Ah, true. |
| 06:24.12 | Torhal | I never noticed since I have the SVN version on my machine :) |
| 06:25.31 | Ackis | heh |
| 06:25.38 | Ackis | Kaelten: ^^ seet hat stuff up |
| 06:25.48 | Ackis | actually is it a curse client buig or a wowace bug? |
| 06:26.01 | Ackis | ckknight: see the stuff I said before about the dependancy issue |
| 06:26.25 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:27.01 | Ackis | alpha versions of projects don't get their dependancies updated on the site (aka libqtip was added to ARL) therefore the client doesn't download them |
| 06:27.17 | aesir | Torhal: If QTipClick includes QTip, why would ARL want both QTip and QtipClick? |
| 06:27.21 | Torhal | Ackis: Actually, that's not a bug since you specify tag: latest |
| 06:27.40 | Torhal | aesir: Apparently the packager doesn't always package both. |
| 06:27.56 | Ackis | Torhal: latest = tag of the library I embed |
| 06:28.04 | Torhal | Meh. Me tired. |
| 06:28.50 | Torhal | Bah. I left some code in that isn't used anymore. |
| 06:29.12 | Ackis | tsk tsk |
| 06:31.20 | Torhal | Ackis: Go add the printing to chatframe code then tag while I smoke. |
| 06:31.25 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 06:31.52 | Torhal | Line 3233 is where it goes! |
| 06:33.18 | Ackis | lol |
| 07:01.17 | pompy | lol doesn't make sense .. the design from the jc vendors that use the awards as currency, the design requires 370 jc but the gem requires 350 |
| 07:02.21 | pompy | stupid blizz |
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| 07:45.05 | aesir | hey smart people, if a lib used by an addon has never been tagged Beta or Release (only Alpha) will Curse Client know about it and install when set to install libs separately? |
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| 14:46.13 | aesir | Anyone have any issues with me committing fixes for these: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/572-typos-in-options-gui-and-font-size-control-slider-stepping/ |
| 14:49.35 | Torhal_ | aesir: If you break shit, I'll send Arrowmaster to your house. |
| 14:50.24 | aesir | I used to compete in local and regional FITA tournaments. I might see him first and get a shot in. |
| 14:50.31 | Torhal | Haha |
| 14:50.53 | aesir | actually, my only concern is whether or not I understand what's going on with localization. |
| 14:51.02 | Torhal | Ah |
| 14:51.49 | Torhal | OMFG. 163 pages of locale information. |
| 14:51.51 | aesir | I tested the file edits in my DL'd package, and it works fine. However, the corresponding typo related edits in SVN are within a different file (testenUS.lua) |
| 14:51.53 | Torhal | Per locale. |
| 14:52.50 | Torhal | aesir: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/localization/enUS/?letter=S&page=2 |
| 14:53.21 | Torhal | I dunno how to handle the multiple lines without the quotes. |
| 14:53.24 | Torhal | ckknight: ^^ |
| 14:53.47 | ckknight | hmm? |
| 14:53.51 | aesir | the code has [[ syntax and apparently in that situation, you don't need doublequotes.. or at least that's what is working for me atm. |
| 14:54.07 | Torhal | ckknight: Nevermind, aesir has the answer for the localization |
| 14:54.08 | ckknight | yea, [=[ftw]=] |
| 14:54.20 | ckknight | alternatively, you can put backslashes on the end |
| 14:54.23 | ckknight | "like\ |
| 14:54.24 | ckknight | this" |
| 14:54.29 | Kaelten | you guys talk to much |
| 14:54.45 | aesir | Kaelten: I'll shut up if you get me OneView3. |
| 14:54.48 | Torhal | Kaelten: Bah. |
| 14:54.54 | Kaelten | lol |
| 14:55.08 | Torhal | aesir: Problem is, you'd have to fix every locale. I just checked Spanish and it, too, has the quotations. |
| 14:55.49 | aesir | Ok then wowace needs to talk to norganna - because there you make one change in enUS and it propagates out to the "Localizer" pages for the translators to tackle. |
| 14:56.01 | Torhal | Nope |
| 14:56.07 | Torhal | It's how Ackis set it up. |
| 14:56.17 | Torhal | The locale key is SCAN_RECIPES_DESC |
| 14:56.23 | Torhal | Instead of the English text |
| 14:56.43 | Torhal | Norganna probably has the locale key be the English text. |
| 14:56.59 | Ackis | Torhal: what did I do wrong? |
| 14:57.11 | Torhal | Ackis: Look at SCAN_RECIPES_DESC |
| 14:57.16 | Ackis | Kaelten, ckknight: you guys have work today or is it a holiday? |
| 14:57.19 | aesir | I can't make a typo correction for enUS without having to make the same correction manually for each locale. |
| 14:57.22 | Kaelten | work |
| 14:57.23 | ckknight | work, Ackis |
| 14:57.25 | Torhal | It has quotations to facilitate line endings, which propogate in-game |
| 14:57.27 | Kaelten | next monday is a holiday though |
| 14:57.29 | ckknight | you canucks get the day off |
| 14:57.32 | ckknight | shakes fist |
| 14:57.34 | Ackis | ah today is a stat for us |
| 14:57.39 | Ackis | I slept in |
| 14:57.46 | ckknight | my mum's up in Canada now |
| 14:58.12 | Torhal | aesir: You can, actually. Let the translator for that locale fix their translation. |
| 14:58.14 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 14:58.33 | Torhal | Was just saying, for uniformity sake, they're all fucked. |
| 14:58.45 | Ackis | ckknight: cool where abouts? |
| 14:58.55 | ckknight | I believe Saskatchewan |
| 14:59.03 | ckknight | not completely sure |
| 14:59.14 | Ackis | ah I'm sorry ot hear that |
| 15:01.30 | aesir | I see the enUS text I want to change in testenUS.lua found in SVN repo. But to be clear, I can't make the change there and commit, I need to change the enUS page at the locale site? |
| 15:03.09 | Torhal | aesir: Yes, the site |
| 15:03.17 | aesir | alright. |
| 15:03.26 | Torhal | It'll be fixed when Ackis tags |
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| 15:04.15 | Torhal | I'm not sure testenUS.lua even needs to exist anymore, since enUS.lua is generated via the page. |
| 15:04.39 | Ackis | testenUS.lua is needed for svn users |
| 15:05.18 | Torhal | aesir: There you go, then. You gotta fix that too. |
| 15:05.32 | Torhal | Ackis: Where's my chatframe printing, you sleepy bastard? |
| 15:05.37 | Ackis | :P |
| 15:07.35 | Torhal | Ackis: Did you look at the clicktip yet? I'd like to be sure what I did is what you wanted :) |
| 15:07.52 | Ackis | doing that now actually |
| 15:09.07 | Kaelten | Ackis: you can rejoin again |
| 15:09.17 | Ackis | k |
| 15:10.17 | Ackis | blah still getting that qtipclick error |
| 15:10.44 | Ackis | bah nm |
| 15:10.45 | Ackis | dumbass |
| 15:10.49 | Torhal | ? |
| 15:11.02 | Ackis | forgot to log out of wow last night so I didn't actually exit the game |
| 15:11.10 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 15:11.33 | aesir | I need employment yesterday. Where are your offices? Do you need a highly skilled and experienced IT programme manager or someone to mop floors in the datacenter? *bangs head against wall* Oh, yeah, I'm Army Reserves so I can be called to active duty on short notice. Pretty sure why no one is calling me now. Fuckers. |
| 15:11.57 | aesir | sorry, I thought was this my vent channel for a moment. |
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| 15:28.49 | aesir | ah balls. You must be an author on this project to edit English (enUS) translations. I'll add links to the ticket for each key that needs an enUS update. |
| 15:31.31 | Ackis | sec |
| 15:31.36 | Ackis | i'll give you access |
| 15:31.46 | aesir | ok |
| 15:32.25 | Ackis | done |
| 15:33.05 | aesir | Thanks. also in unrelated news, has anyone checked out Maul's "Jobber" yet? I have high hopes for that one as a nice substitute for my beloved but forgotten Skillet. |
| 15:33.53 | Torhal | I haven't tested it, but will. I liked Producer except that the menus can get stuck and obstruct other shit (for example, ARL) |
| 15:38.25 | aesir | Ah producer. I either tried it or one just like it but was thrown off by the dropdown menu UI. I'm not that avant-garde. |
| 15:50.17 | aesir | I see the role update to Documentor, but that doesn't appear to have rights to modify enUS localization. It does appear to have rights to edit/create Pages however. I can link the keys that need updating for whenever - none of this is time-sensitive, but it would be nice for the next release. |
| 15:50.48 | Ackis | next release will be today if tooltip stuff = work |
| 15:51.38 | Ackis | the other option is to change testenUS.lua and I can import it |
| 15:52.02 | Ackis | or you can try again since i added translator |
| 15:55.02 | Ackis | and tooltips linking to the profession are added Torhal |
| 15:55.08 | aesir | testenUS.lua is updated |
| 15:55.36 | Ackis | oh so it's current? |
| 15:56.02 | aesir | testenUS.lua is current, and I just DL'd it back down through Curse client. What hasn't changed are the localization pages. |
| 15:56.45 | Ackis | now they've changed |
| 15:57.01 | aesir | Did you just change it? Because about 17 seconds ago, they weren't updated. |
| 15:57.24 | Ackis | just was imported as soon as you said testenUS.lua is updated |
| 15:58.00 | aesir | That's awesome. I'm going to mark the ticket as 'fixed' and ask someone - anyone - else to just spot check it before marking it as Verified. |
| 15:58.13 | Ackis | wicked ty |
| 15:58.38 | Ackis | basically all I did was copy the testenUS into the importer and deleted the unused keys... a very nifty feature that ckknight has with the localization app |
| 15:59.06 | aesir | ok so going forward, if I see similar situations, I really only need to concern myself with updating testenUS.lua |
| 15:59.23 | Ackis | exactly, however give me a heads up so I know to do a full import |
| 16:00.43 | Torhal | Ackis: Suhweet. |
| 16:01.25 | Ackis | Torhal: just a question, can you get the tooltip to show char - server -> (click) -> that char's professions opposed to the 3-layered tier now? |
| 16:02.10 | Torhal | Ackis: Yes, definitely. I can do that now if you want. |
| 16:02.27 | Ackis | please |
| 16:02.33 | Torhal | I'm on it. |
| 16:06.54 | Torhal | Ackis: Ouch. Gotta work that one out. |
| 16:07.04 | Ackis | ah it's not easy then? |
| 16:07.14 | Torhal | Well, not with the current design. |
| 16:07.22 | Ackis | k |
| 16:07.35 | Torhal | It's easy once I figure out the new design. Heh. |
| 16:08.20 | Torhal | I'm dealing with the child support stuff and have been drinking way too much coffee on an empty stomach so it's kinda hard to wrap my head around at the moment. |
| 16:10.07 | Ackis | heh np :) |
| 16:12.41 | Torhal | Ackis: Ok, I got it but there is a problem. |
| 16:12.48 | Ackis | oh? |
| 16:13.08 | Torhal | If you have 50 toons (the Blizzard maximum), using this system will overflow the container Frame. |
| 16:13.23 | Torhal | You can have 9 per realm, which fits in the frame. |
| 16:13.51 | aesir | Doesn't matter for your point, but I think with DK it's 10/realm. |
| 16:13.56 | aesir | I *think* |
| 16:14.12 | Torhal | Either way, yah. Point stands :) |
| 16:15.11 | Ackis | *nod* |
| 16:15.19 | Torhal | So...stick with 3-tier? |
| 16:15.36 | Ackis | can we switch? |
| 16:15.44 | Ackis | aka if you have above X toons switch to 3-tier |
| 16:15.47 | Ackis | below use 2 tier? |
| 16:16.13 | Torhal | Hrm. |
| 16:16.36 | aesir | question: Will 2-tier still show realm name with the char name (I have same named chars on 3 realms. I'm not creative with names). |
| 16:16.43 | Torhal | aesir: Yes |
| 16:16.50 | Torhal | Torhal - Azuremyst |
| 16:16.50 | aesir | great, thanks |
| 16:17.16 | Torhal | Ackis: We'd need the size of the global.tradeskills table, which isn't indexed. |
| 16:17.34 | Ackis | Torhal: not too difficult to add a counter/get a count |
| 16:17.50 | Ackis | but do you think that's a good implementation? |
| 16:18.20 | Torhal | We can try it and see. I don't believe iterating over 50 entries every time you generate the tooltip is _that_ big of a performance hit. |
| 16:19.21 | Ackis | eh just leave it as it is |
| 16:19.39 | Torhal | You sure? I was about to test the iteration :) |
| 16:19.43 | aesir | What if you separated Realm selection from Character selection? It doesn't reduce the # of clicks in some cases, but it should avoid any issues with menu length. |
| 16:19.55 | Torhal | aesir: That's the 3-tier approach |
| 16:20.09 | Torhal | Right now, it's Click - realm. Click - Name. Click - Profession. |
| 16:21.24 | aesir | I think I'm thinking about 2 top tier selectors. One for Realm, and it only lists realms where you have chars. But once it's picked, it stays picked until changed. Leaving char and profession for a separate 2-tier menu. Or... is that too cumbersome as well? |
| 16:22.10 | Ackis | nah just a single tooltip I think works best |
| 16:23.35 | Torhal | Ackis: Actually, I can limit the iterations to 10. If count reaches 10, abort iterating and from there we can swap from 2-tier to 3. |
| 16:23.46 | Ackis | *nod* |
| 16:23.51 | Ackis | that's wicked |
| 16:23.52 | Torhal | Should be unnoticable to the user. |
| 16:26.23 | Ackis | can you update the localization string too please? |
| 16:26.28 | Ackis | the the desc? |
| 16:27.05 | Torhal | Ackis: I'm going to change the behavior to _not_ reset the tooltip when clicking on a profession in case the user wants to link all of that toon's profs. |
| 16:27.11 | Torhal | Ackis: What string? |
| 16:27.12 | Ackis | k |
| 16:27.27 | Ackis | the tooltip for the button |
| 16:27.45 | Torhal | Where is it? |
| 16:28.19 | Ackis | last stirng in testenus |
| 16:46.46 | Torhal | Ackis: Shit. I hope I didn't just revert your changes with that last commit. |
| 16:50.21 | Torhal | Fuck. Now there's the potention to horizontally overflow the frame. LongToonName - LongRealmName |
| 16:50.28 | Torhal | s/potention/potential/ |
| 16:50.50 | Torhal | bashes his head against reality. |
| 16:51.27 | Torhal | Ackis: Shoot me. Repeatedly. With grenades. |
| 16:53.07 | Ackis | lol /comfort |
| 16:53.12 | Ackis | it doesnt' look like my changes were reverted |
| 16:53.35 | Torhal | Ackis: Weird, since I haven't done an svn update all day... |
| 16:53.53 | Torhal | Ackis: So, back to three-tier, or are we going to grow the container frame? |
| 16:54.27 | Ackis | grow it |
| 16:59.15 | Ackis | there's also a bug: it's not updating the server properly |
| 17:01.18 | Jim-Bim | ackis: do you really need other realms in it at all? :P |
| 17:01.32 | Ackis | if we're gonna do alts, do them all :P |
| 17:01.52 | Torhal | Ackis: It isn't? |
| 17:02.43 | Jim-Bim | I would prefer to list all alts on current realm AND an "other realm" option on the first pag |
| 17:02.46 | Jim-Bim | +e |
| 17:03.15 | Torhal | For some reason, I can't grow the flyout. |
| 17:06.00 | Torhal | Ok, got it. |
| 17:12.03 | Jim-Bim | First tooltip contains all characters on current realm and other realms option if you have alts on other realms. clicking on an character should open second tooltip with all professions. Clicking on other realms should open up list of realms, click on realm should list all characters on realm, clicking character should list all professions. <--- I would like it like that :P |
| 17:13.28 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: That's how I set it up initially. Now, though, it counts your total toons. If it's 10 or under, the first menu is "Character - Realm". Otherwise, the first menu becomes "Realm", second is "Character" |
| 17:15.26 | Torhal | Well, save for the "Other realm" option. Didn't have that. |
| 17:21.22 | Torhal | Bah. I thought I had it. |
| 17:21.56 | Torhal | I don't know WTF else to do to grow the flyaway frame other than SetWidth(), which isn't working for some damn reason. |
| 17:24.59 | Torhal | Ackis: ^^ |
| 17:25.21 | Ackis | the panel is a texture I think |
| 17:25.39 | Jim-Bim | well, with the other realms thingy you have always a quick way to come to the alts on your current realm |
| 17:26.04 | Jim-Bim | they check for 10 thingy is always bad if you have more than 10 :P |
| 17:26.56 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: I iterate through gb.global.tradeskills, and when the count reaches 10 I stop. Not terribly inefficient. |
| 17:27.25 | Jim-Bim | its bad cause you have to click 3 times to get to any character |
| 17:27.54 | Torhal | Yah. Just doing what Ackis proposed. I can change this. |
| 17:31.21 | Torhal | Ok, I'm sufficiently unfamiliar with the frame layout to have no idea where to change the SetTexCoords(), especially since they're in multiple locations. Plus, it appears that the current tooltip methods aren't optimal from an end-user standpoint. |
| 17:31.27 | Torhal | Ackis, Jim-Bim: Discuss. |
| 17:31.32 | Torhal | I wanna get this shit done and tagged. |
| 17:31.34 | Torhal | :D |
| 17:33.00 | Jim-Bim | I would like it the way I proposed :P |
| 17:35.30 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: Tooltip == List of Alts. Empty Line. "Other Realm"? |
| 17:35.55 | Jim-Bim | yeah, only add the empty line and other realm if you have other realms |
| 17:36.03 | Torhal | Aye |
| 17:37.13 | Jim-Bim | and other realms should open up a tooltip with only realms listed, so that id doesn't need much space |
| 17:37.22 | Torhal | Aye. |
| 17:37.36 | Jim-Bim | and clicking realm should open up list with all alts on that realm |
| 17:38.06 | Jim-Bim | basically, make it easier to print alts on your realm, and other realms need some more clicks |
| 17:38.34 | Jim-Bim | but I think that feature will be used 95% for same realm alts |
| 17:38.45 | Jim-Bim | tso no big problem |
| 17:39.41 | Torhal | Also makes it so I don't have to become intimately familiar with the flyout frames to grow them. |
| 17:40.12 | Torhal | Which, BTW, should probably have their values set to constants in case they need changed |
| 17:40.23 | Torhal | Since there are several which have a width of 210, others with 112... |
| 17:40.34 | Torhal | shrugs. |
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| 18:07.23 | Torhal | Now I gotta level a toon up on another realm and get a profession,. |
| 18:21.22 | Jim-Bim | you can't create dk? :P |
| 18:32.01 | aesir | ckknight or Kaelten or Ackis: Can I use this channel to report Curse issues relating to addons other than ARL? Hey, thanks, will do! Check out Satrina Buff Frame. It's been updated 3 times in the past couple of hours and not one update is available through Curse, Curse Forge, or Curse Client - though all three sources indicate the latest version is the one that the author has been trying to push out. Satrina now has version "3.1.11 (2)" pe |
| 18:32.30 | ckknight | no zip on curseforge, then? |
| 18:32.48 | aesir | No |
| 18:33.21 | aesir | Tested that scenario an hour or so ago and emailed the author. It's a private repo so I couldn't tell if it was a prob with .pkgmeta or something more on the curse side. |
| 18:34.10 | ckknight | repo type: none, packages on: no packaging |
| 18:34.12 | aesir | But the project pages on Curse and curseforge (and curse client) all show the version increments almost immediately after the author (tries to) push the update. It's just that the files aren't there. |
| 18:34.43 | aesir | ckknight: Satrina needs to know that? Is that the problem? |
| 18:34.53 | ckknight | Satrina should come on IRC |
| 18:35.33 | aesir | tbh, not even sure if he is or not. I emailed him when I saw the update was available on wowi, but wasn't coming through on curse. |
| 18:35.34 | ckknight | so what's the latest one _supposed_ to be? |
| 18:37.33 | aesir | According to a post on WoWI, 3.1.11 (2) was a re-upload of 3.1.11 in an attempt to "get approved". So, I'd go with 3.1.11. But I'd like the author to find you. In an emailed reply, he'd indicated he'd "opened a ticket with Curse". |
| 18:39.35 | ckknight | this is related to cc downloading issues |
| 18:42.22 | aesir | I definitely did try to get the file manually from curse and curseforge. 3.1.10 didn't even show up in Recent Files section of the page, nor did 3.1.11. I see 3.1.11(2) on curseforge now though. And I notice that 3.1.9 was there earlier but is no longer listed in Recent Files. |
| 18:42.54 | aesir | oh wait, you did something, I gather. At least it'll come through now. |
| 19:42.08 | Torhal | Jim-Bim, Ackis: Committed Jim-Bim's suggested changes. Now, we need to add another localization string for "Other Realm" |
| 19:42.33 | Jim-Bim | nice, I will take a look at it |
| 19:43.11 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: It does. |
| 19:43.24 | Torhal | Nevermind, I was scrolled up when I answered you |
| 19:43.25 | Torhal | Heh |
| 19:46.51 | Torhal | Ackis: What do you want ALT_TRADESKILL_DESC changed to? I can't change it in the Localization app, BTW/ |
| 21:09.12 | Ackis | k so it's ready to tag? |
| 21:09.16 | Ackis | (had to lay down feeling like shit) |
| 21:23.10 | Torhal | Ackis: Other than that translation string - ALT_TRADESKILL_DESC...it seems ready. |
| 21:26.38 | Ackis | L["ALT_TRADESKILL_DESC"] = "This will display a list of alts which have had trade skills scanned. Clicking on the alt's name will output the tradeskill to chat." |
| 21:27.45 | Jim-Bim | I also added the missing other realm string |
| 21:27.52 | Ackis | yah I saw that |
| 21:28.02 | Ackis | is that the correct one for alt_tradeskill? |
| 21:28.05 | Jim-Bim | I hope you like it the way its now ackis :P |
| 21:29.58 | Jim-Bim | yeah the tooltip is shown for the correct button |
| 21:30.54 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: So that's what you had in mind? Sounded like it. |
| 21:31.22 | Jim-Bim | yes, works great |
| 21:31.26 | Torhal | Good deal. |
| 21:31.35 | Torhal | Ackis: Yes, that's the right one. |
| 21:31.45 | Jim-Bim | only thing which doesn't work right now is the onclick script for the button :P |
| 21:31.54 | Torhal | ? |
| 21:32.12 | Jim-Bim | there is code which should hide the tooltip if its already open |
| 21:32.17 | Jim-Bim | but thats not the case |
| 21:32.42 | Torhal | Oh, it does. It than re-opens it. |
| 21:32.57 | Torhal | Click on an alt's name, then click the button. |
| 21:33.03 | Torhal | It re-generates from the start. |
| 21:33.27 | Jim-Bim | I see, thats good, too :P |
| 21:33.32 | Torhal | :D |
| 21:33.40 | Torhal | s/than/then/ |
| 21:33.42 | Jim-Bim | only thing I miss is hide it if we already have the start tooltip |
| 21:33.52 | Torhal | Start tooltip? |
| 21:34.08 | Jim-Bim | the tooltip which is genereates from the start |
| 21:34.22 | Jim-Bim | if that one is visible, and I click on the button, it should hide |
| 21:34.40 | Torhal | Oh. Why does it need to be hidden? And why do we need a button, othe rthan to regenerate the menu? |
| 21:35.16 | Jim-Bim | we would use the same button |
| 21:35.24 | Jim-Bim | toggle start tooltip :P |
| 21:35.40 | Torhal | Regardless, the button needs to move a bit to the right. It's partially hiding the "s" in "Tradeskills" |
| 21:36.33 | Jim-Bim | there is a ":" behind the s in tradeskills which you don't see, either :P |
| 21:36.45 | Torhal | Nice. I'll move it |
| 21:36.48 | Jim-Bim | it looks fine for my resolution |
| 21:37.00 | Torhal | So, when the tooltip is visible, clicking the button should hide it instead of regenerating? |
| 21:37.20 | Torhal | Hrm. What resolution? I'm at 1680x1050 |
| 21:37.28 | Jim-Bim | 1920x1200 |
| 21:37.42 | Torhal | :P |
| 21:38.27 | Jim-Bim | only hide it if the content of the tooltip didn't change |
| 21:38.41 | Ackis | is rebooting |
| 21:39.01 | Jim-Bim | so if we have the start tooltip, and click on the button again, it should hide cause the tooltip content wouldn't change |
| 21:41.36 | pompy | Jim-Bim: you know what would be nice in the dataminer.. changing "extra" to "incorrect" and add code for it to check if there's dup entries of trainer data for an item. |
| 21:42.25 | Jim-Bim | you mean if one recipe has one trainer listed more than once? |
| 21:42.29 | pompy | yeah |
| 21:45.19 | Jim-Bim | Torhal: still around? |
| 21:46.07 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: Yah, just committed that hide change. |
| 21:47.15 | Jim-Bim | sweet, works fine for me now :) |
| 21:52.45 | Jim-Bim | just the realm selection tooltip after selecting "other realm" hides after clicking on the button |
| 21:53.24 | Torhal | Hides...? |
| 21:53.38 | Jim-Bim | yeah hides |
| 21:53.47 | Jim-Bim | it should display the start tooltip |
| 21:56.46 | Torhal | Jim-Bim: Fixed. |
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| 21:57.52 | Ackis | ok... |
| 21:57.53 | Ackis | so |
| 21:57.55 | Ackis | tagging inc? |
| 22:01.26 | Jim-Bim | wait ackis |
| 22:02.10 | Ackis | yah pompy is finishing something up as well |
| 22:02.17 | Jim-Bim | somehow my first aid recipes only show up after selecting the specialties filter |
| 22:02.42 | Jim-Bim | deselecting it hides 'em all |
| 22:03.54 | Ackis | testing |
| 22:05.10 | Jim-Bim | this might be related to the skillleveldata info you added |
| 22:06.32 | Jim-Bim | cause most don't have a Specialty value added |
| 22:07.09 | Jim-Bim | so first aid is missing some kind of IHaveNoSpecialtValue :P |
| 22:08.39 | Jim-Bim | adding a "nil" before the game value should fix it |
| 22:08.55 | Jim-Bim | which profession did you change already? |
| 22:09.59 | Jim-Bim | or move the Specialty value to the end, but that would require more work |
| 22:10.25 | Jim-Bim | but that way we don't have to add NoSpecialty values to all professions without Specialty |
| 22:11.22 | Ackis | yah got it fixed |
| 22:16.07 | Jim-Bim | you also changed some enchanting recipes if I'm not mistaken |
| 22:16.23 | Ackis | yah doing those rightn ow |
| 22:17.25 | Ackis | and looks like it's good now |
| 22:17.30 | Ackis | found a couple other errors which I fixed |
| 22:17.48 | Torhal | Wewt |
| 22:18.24 | Jim-Bim | and do you like the alt tooltip now, ackis? |
| 22:18.49 | Jim-Bim | I think its better this way, not that check 10 thingy :P |
| 22:18.52 | Ackis | yes |
| 22:18.54 | Torhal | Yah |
| 22:19.52 | Ackis | it looks pretty nifty |
| 22:20.54 | Torhal | Not spiffy? |
| 22:20.58 | Torhal | Damn. |
| 22:23.51 | Ackis | k comitting shortly |
| 22:23.57 | Ackis | tagging I mean |
| 22:24.04 | Torhal | does the pee-pee dance. |
| 22:24.07 | Jim-Bim | my ideas are always nifty :P |
| 22:24.33 | pompy | wow ensidia killed algalon on 10 man |
| 22:26.39 | Jim-Bim | did they already spend their 1h in heroic? |
| 22:27.24 | pompy | not sure |
| 22:31.16 | Jim-Bim | <3 RC9 |
| 22:31.51 | Jim-Bim | why are we doing Release Candidates all the time? |
| 22:32.00 | Torhal | It's the new Beta. |
| 22:32.02 | Jim-Bim | instead of releasing 1.0, 1.1 or whatever |
| 22:32.20 | Jim-Bim | current RC works rockstable I guess |
| 22:34.31 | Ackis | once teh datamining is done i'll tag as 1.0 release |
| 22:35.00 | Jim-Bim | k, did you read pompys recent request? |
| 22:35.10 | Jim-Bim | checking for duplicate trainer entries |
| 22:35.28 | Ackis | yes |
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| 22:45.53 | pompy | Ackis: do you intend to keep that code in there for the thunderlord people ? |
| 22:46.07 | Torhal | Hah |
| 22:46.10 | Ackis | no i'll remove it after this RC |
| 22:46.11 | Ackis | :P |
| 22:46.13 | pompy | haha |
| 22:46.27 | *** topic/#arl by Ackis -> Ackis Recipe List: RC8 released! To hell with Thunderlord! |
| 22:46.33 | pompy | it errored anyway about 'self' |
| 22:46.38 | pompy | at elast from what I tried |
| 22:46.41 | pompy | least* |
| 22:46.48 | Ackis | doesn't matter as long as it breaks |
| 22:46.52 | pompy | haha |
| 22:47.33 | Ackis | anyways afk again, it's snowing here... sweet? |
| 22:47.39 | pompy | lol damn |
| 23:00.22 | aesir | If a trainer or vendor has nothing to modify based on autoscanning, does it output anything at all? Or.. is my chat addon blocking all ARL scan output now? I don't think I've seen any scan spam since Friday |
| 23:02.07 | pompy | doesn't output nething if there's no vonflict |
| 23:02.15 | pompy | conflict* |
| 23:02.50 | aesir | Alrighty then |
| 23:06.41 | aesir | Damn. I ask that question and then after visiting oh...20 trainers, I find one. :) |
| 23:11.07 | Ackis | yah you had asked that the auto-scan be unintrusive so I made it that way |
| 23:15.20 | aesir | Personally I prefer a 'positive confirmation', but don't change a thing. It's really best for more people to get involved, and I expect most people want silence when no updates are needed. |
| 23:15.57 | Ackis | well that's only if you have the autoscan on, if you have manual scans it'll output text |
| 23:16.12 | aesir | That works too. |
| 23:18.26 | aesir | kinda exciting, there were a lot of data updates made this release cycle. Hope folks notice. |
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| 23:19.37 | pompy | kk put the comment, hope I put it on the right one lol http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/pages/api/in-game-datamining |
| 23:19.46 | Ackis | yah that's the one pompy |
| 23:19.53 | pompy | kk |
| 23:19.54 | Ackis | aesir: most of them were trainer updates, so i doubt it |
| 23:20.17 | Ackis | hi netcurse |
| 23:21.45 | aesir | curse IRC bot perhaps. |
| 23:21.58 | Ackis | nah netcurse = owner of Curse |
| 23:22.22 | aesir | What I meant to say was, "owner of Curse perhaps". |
| 23:22.30 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:22.37 | pompy | lies |
| 23:22.50 | aesir | Oddly, if you look at the info, and take the i and l out of the last name, you get "thebot". |
| 23:22.59 | Ackis | heh |
| 23:23.08 | aesir | oh carp, Curse is owned by an IRC bot! |
| 23:27.43 | Repo | Announcement from my owner (ckknight): I can't let you do that, aesir |
| 23:28.00 | ckknight | <.< |
| 23:28.02 | ckknight | >.> |
| 23:28.16 | pompy | :O |
| 23:28.19 | aesir | HAL, open the irc podcast doors. |
| 23:28.44 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:28.53 | ckknight | Ackis: why are you so gung-ho about Mountain Dew? |
| 23:34.50 | aesir | Everytime you click that banner, a kitten is fed a can of Mtn Dew. |
| 23:38.44 | Ackis | ckknight: it's just a contest and you get a chance to win stuff, one of them is an in-game pet (which will be easy to get) but not many people know about the promo so I'm sending it out... I don't get anything from people clicking on that banner right now ironically enough (max is 2k points and I'll have that by doing the solo stuff well before you can even enter contests) |
| 23:39.06 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:39.20 | Ackis | really it's just to spread the word right now, give people a chance to get the pet at least |
| 23:39.43 | Ackis | grand prize each week is a paid trip to blizzcon, however it's for americans only (well whole contest is american only, I'm cheating) |
| 23:40.29 | Ackis | i think they're giving away laptops too |
| 23:41.33 | Ackis | plus mountain dew is just full of win :) |