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| 00:27.55 | nyt | wordup |
| 00:28.59 | `vip | slow in here today |
| 00:29.01 | `vip | sup nyt |
| 00:29.35 | nyt | boreded |
| 00:29.56 | nyt | ircin it up, waitin for the wifeys show to start |
| 00:32.40 | DarkriftX | gets really slow in here during weekends oddly |
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| 00:45.51 | den0ts|G1 | does mythtv work with android? |
| 00:46.20 | tmzt | dcordes: has anyone tried rmnet on kaiser? |
| 00:47.18 | tmzt | (assuming the standard on amss part is right, but there is probably some other qmi channel in that case) |
| 00:48.10 | tmzt | den0ts|G1: the protocol is pretty open, isn't it? just mysql commands and some kind of tcp transport? |
| 00:48.35 | den0ts|G1 | no idea |
| 00:49.08 | tmzt | den0ts|G1: there is also a gstreamer based implmentation, but gstreamer would need to be made to work under zygote somehow, maybe with a gl surface? |
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| 01:42.26 | spikebike | Wow |
| 01:42.32 | spikebike | disks are under $10 per 100G |
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| 01:50.35 | spikebike | ah, crap, python-pam is to call pam from python, not be a python module |
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| 01:54.21 | infernix | ok so if a filetype, say a pdf, can't be opened in android, i can't download it? not even to attach and forward in mail, or store on sd card? |
| 01:55.25 | spikebike | currently yes (I think) |
| 01:55.34 | spikebike | but if you rename it to .foo I think it works |
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| 01:58.02 | `vip | possible to backup txt msgs ? |
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| 02:30.41 | ecubuntu | hey guys did you know some apps to use irc on G1? |
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| 02:34.46 | nyt | yeah |
| 02:35.09 | nyt | http://countercultured.net/ircbeta.apk im writing it |
| 02:35.25 | nyt | and using it now |
| 02:38.00 | DarkriftX | i wonder if my mom would give me her %20 discount on black friday for a g1 |
| 02:38.11 | DarkriftX | $150 minus $30 would be nice |
| 02:44.18 | ecubuntu | let me try nyt |
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| 02:52.22 | infernix | is there no ssh client on the phone?!? |
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| 02:52.58 | DarkriftX | connectbot |
| 02:53.23 | DarkriftX | id be surprised if it didnt come up in the market if you search for "ssh" |
| 02:53.29 | infernix | doesn't |
| 02:54.04 | infernix | nor does connectbot |
| 02:54.12 | DarkriftX | i have a link to it on my site |
| 02:54.15 | DarkriftX | somewhere :S |
| 02:54.59 | infernix | googled it, thanks |
| 02:55.02 | DarkriftX | np |
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| 02:58.20 | yakischloba | So I'm in my next billing period but I don't see the bill _or_ usage from my first month?.. |
| 02:58.38 | loke | yakischloba: don't you have unlimited data? |
| 02:58.48 | yakischloba | yes |
| 02:58.57 | yakischloba | Is my first month free or something? |
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| 03:14.14 | infernix | been reading some reports about the alarm not being stable.. anyone here using it as a morning alarm clock? |
| 03:14.39 | infernix | wouldn't want to be late and cough up as an excuse that android failed |
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| 03:34.26 | DarkriftX | lol infernix |
| 03:35.19 | infernix | and i don't think I can get rid of that emergency dialer when sceen is locked, or can I |
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| 03:35.33 | DarkriftX | no idea :( |
| 03:35.35 | DarkriftX | wb nyt |
| 03:35.50 | infernix | thinks he has to get down and dirty with the SDK |
| 03:36.36 | wastrel | hi hi |
| 03:36.47 | DarkriftX | hola |
| 03:37.00 | wastrel | i experienced crappy battery today |
| 03:37.15 | DarkriftX | ouch |
| 03:37.33 | wastrel | fully charged at 3pm, dead at 10:00 |
| 03:38.42 | DarkriftX | gps on? |
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| 03:39.09 | DarkriftX | i wonder if any cool extended batteries will come out that arent huge |
| 03:39.27 | DarkriftX | i loved my wizards extended battery, even though it made my phone a lot bigger |
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| 03:41.34 | djo_ | Hi all: Quick newbie question (but I can't seem to find anything on Google): I have a multi-line EditText. When there's only one line of text in it, it is vertically centered. What is the correct attribute to make the text align to the top of the EditText? |
| 03:42.11 | djo_ | ie: if I were in HTML tables: <td valign="top>...</td> |
| 03:45.10 | DarkriftX | its dead in here tonight djo_ |
| 03:47.13 | djo_ | DarkriftX: I *guess*... |
| 03:47.20 | djo_ | mhm |
| 03:47.36 | djo_ | It's *cold* in |
| 03:47.52 | djo_ | Chicago; nothing else to do but hack Android tonight. |
| 03:48.00 | DarkriftX | heh |
| 03:48.03 | djo_ | Other places must have better luck... :-D |
| 03:51.09 | djo_ | DarkriftX: Any idea where I should search, at least? I obviously don't know the right keywords yet, so Google is no help nor is the manual nor "Hello Android" nor "The Busy Coder's Guide to Android". Well, I'm sure that at least one or more of these would be of help if I only knew the right question to ask. |
| 03:51.22 | djo_ | :-( |
| 03:51.32 | DarkriftX | no ideas, sorry. im not a developer |
| 03:51.40 | DarkriftX | just hang out, ppl peek in once in a while |
| 03:51.52 | djo_ | Cool; well thanks. :-) |
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| 04:06.25 | umdk1d3 | mm the land of dialup |
| 04:06.46 | umdk1d3 | i think im connected at 21kbps tonight ^.^ |
| 04:06.58 | muthu_ | are you india :P |
| 04:07.40 | umdk1d3 | nah, middle of nowhere in minnesota ;) |
| 04:07.47 | muthu_ | we get unlimited broadband at that speed ;) |
| 04:08.05 | muthu_ | actually broadband has its own definition in india |
| 04:08.25 | muthu_ | umdk1d3: went back to college huh |
| 04:08.33 | muthu_ | thought you settled in the valley |
| 04:09.59 | umdk1d3 | lol not yet ;) |
| 04:10.05 | muthu_ | heh |
| 04:10.19 | umdk1d3 | moving soonish tho, need to hit craigslist soon |
| 04:10.26 | muthu_ | cool |
| 04:10.32 | gambler | hey umdk1d3 ...your joining google eh? gl |
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| 04:15.36 | DarkriftX | hrmmmmm, died in here agian |
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| 04:33.09 | djo_ | Figured it out: android:gravity="top" |
| 04:33.11 | djo_ | Obviously. |
| 04:33.15 | djo_ | :-) |
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| 04:41.07 | unix_infidel | RyeBrye: looks like you made made engadget this time ;-) |
| 04:42.24 | DarkriftX | nice |
| 04:42.56 | Damm | doesn't suprise me |
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| 04:46.33 | unix_infidel | it would be really nice if someone came out with a browser hack (non rooted G1 require) that allows for multitouch gestures. |
| 04:49.19 | DarkriftX | i had the same thought earlier |
| 04:49.29 | DarkriftX | but RyeBrye is the only one workign on it from what i can tell |
| 04:49.54 | DarkriftX | although it would require a rooted g1, because non rooted g1's do not have multitouch enabled |
| 04:50.57 | ionstorm | yea multitouch will definately happen |
| 04:51.24 | ionstorm | either we will ghetto hack it or htc/google will enable it |
| 04:51.29 | ionstorm | we'll prolly hack it first |
| 04:51.49 | unix_infidel | well, rooted G1 just requires a rebuilt synaptics driver as I've pointed out from the beginning (see RyeBrye original post) |
| 04:52.26 | unix_infidel | should be an easy patch, though, since HTC didnt spec out a multitouch display from the beginning i'm sure it'll be tough for the Android team to release such a patch. |
| 04:56.07 | skbohra1 | had anybody ever heard about a tuxphone |
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| 04:58.55 | DarkriftX | i dont see how it would be done without root |
| 05:03.48 | Damm | it's not really the root... it's that T-Mobile has locked down the ability to re-flash the device easily |
| 05:04.06 | Damm | having root just enables you to flash it |
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| 05:07.47 | milluminu | the one thing that gets on my nerves about android os is that it's impossible to kill processes--either that or it's extremely unintuitive as i still haven't figured out how |
| 05:07.56 | milluminu | there isn't even a close option for applications |
| 05:08.03 | milluminu | they just keep running, choking, choking, choking |
| 05:08.21 | milluminu | to play a video properly you have to reboot to kill all the crappy apps because none of them have close options |
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| 05:40.20 | Memphis | any word on turn by turn navi for android? |
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| 06:27.34 | EdLin | is there an IRC client available for Android? |
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| 06:42.23 | nickd8301 | so i've been reading about the multi-touch recently - what's the news on it these days? |
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| 07:05.14 | romainguy | milluminu: because there's no need to close applications, they are paused/killed as needed |
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| 07:21.21 | languish | ok, when I press the wired headset call anser button when there is no call, it turns on the music player. How do I disable this? |
| 07:22.13 | languish | *answer |
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| 07:23.39 | languish | nickd8301,read the update on ryebrye's blog. http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2008/11/17/proving-the-g1-screen-can-handle-multi-touch/ |
| 07:23.43 | languish | at the bottom |
| 07:24.26 | languish | there's been some discussion on dirty hacks to get multi touch like functionality, but it's not part of android |
| 07:25.03 | languish | I shoudl rephrase. It's not enabled for the G1 |
| 07:25.32 | sodenrox | its enabled... |
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| 07:25.52 | sodenrox | no programming fo rit |
| 07:26.06 | sodenrox | ryebrye has pwned it^^ |
| 07:26.18 | languish | sodenrox, it's not enabled in the G1. |
| 07:26.38 | languish | It exists as part of android, but is commented out for the G1 |
| 07:27.16 | sodenrox | ... multitouch isnt "enabled" or "disabled" its either available or not |
| 07:27.26 | sodenrox | #android-hackng |
| 07:27.31 | sodenrox | #android-hacking |
| 07:27.59 | languish | so the width data has been "enabled" for the G1 without "hacking" it? |
| 07:28.09 | sodenrox | 0o0o u cant join... |
| 07:28.12 | sodenrox | so you dont know shit |
| 07:28.17 | sodenrox | =) |
| 07:28.21 | sodenrox | j/k |
| 07:29.19 | languish | rather than be an ass, explain it. |
| 07:29.28 | languish | or are you incapable of it? |
| 07:29.36 | sodenrox | i'm pretty hammered right now |
| 07:29.37 | languish | "I know what yopu don't, nyah nyah" |
| 07:29.42 | sodenrox | actually i just got back from the bar |
| 07:30.36 | languish | and it makes you such pleasant company. |
| 07:30.46 | sodenrox | =) |
| 07:54.22 | milluminu | if there is no need to kill applications, why does video playback choke and stutter when other apps are running but "apparently" closed? |
| 07:55.07 | milluminu | i am becoming more and more unhappy with the way the android system opts to take away control from the user, it's worse than windows |
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| 08:35.41 | fnord | wtf is with dennis's comment on android convert? |
| 08:42.13 | languish | wtd does "netwalk" a *GAME* need to have access to "phone calls" ? |
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| 08:59.50 | ismarc | languish: until this moment, I had completely discounted the game and not taken a second look. By requiring something odd and unrelated, they generate more talk about the game...thus, free publicity |
| 09:00.51 | kRutOn | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.25 | ismarc | kRutOn: I actually emailed the authors of the weather channel app because it was requesting weird things (camera, sms, etc.) |
| 09:02.37 | ismarc | the response was "we plan on adding blah blah blah functionality" |
| 09:02.55 | ismarc | they also included a link to their privacy policy in the response |
| 09:03.19 | ismarc | so your suggestion must be the case |
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| 09:22.47 | languish | ismarc, adding questionable access permissions to a game, may generate "interest" when people wank about it, but it also gets me to not approve the installation. |
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| 11:32.41 | xsdg | milluminu: for one, have you confirmed that the same behavior doesn't happen on boot? |
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| 11:45.41 | rick_2047 | is it possible to install android on those duplicate chinese mobiles (those really cheap but feature rich ones)?? |
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| 11:57.03 | eldenz | is the owner/maintainer of android-dls.com here on irc? |
| 11:57.28 | eldenz | someone shold tell him to enable url rewriting feature in teh wiki |
| 11:58.45 | languish | yeah he's around |
| 11:58.52 | languish | thought dunno if he's awake |
| 11:59.06 | languish | -t |
| 12:03.09 | eldenz | meh cannot connect to telnet on localhost ;< is there a way to tell whether telnetd has been started? |
| 12:03.57 | eldenz | Service Viewer! |
| 12:07.57 | eldenz | could it be telnetd was removed from RC19 phones afterwards in-store? |
| 12:08.37 | eldenz | nope, it's there :x |
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| 12:18.29 | eldenz | Locale should be able to change more settings |
| 12:44.31 | xsdg | eldenz: they're working on it |
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| 12:50.59 | eldenz | nic eto hear |
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| 13:19.29 | eldenz | is there no way to change first-day-of-week to monday? |
| 13:19.49 | eldenz | it's set to Monday on google cal.. |
| 13:20.00 | eldenz | but G1 displays Sun ;< |
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| 13:41.55 | budwaa | Is there a channel about for the t-mobile g1? |
| 13:44.51 | Dialekt | lol |
| 13:44.56 | Dialekt | blinks |
| 13:45.07 | xsdg | budwaa: oh, the G1 channel is thattaway ----> |
| 13:45.18 | Dialekt | hahahahahahahaaha |
| 13:45.27 | xsdg | budwaa: that said, do you have a question? |
| 13:47.37 | budwaa | just info about root access.. |
| 13:48.01 | budwaa | mainly wether i should take my updated phone back because its *broken* or wait for a possible new exploitt |
| 13:49.31 | xsdg | shrugs |
| 13:51.18 | budwaa | Btw, im interested to know why my initial Q was so funny :S. Help me be cool plz. |
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| 14:07.47 | eldenz | 'The download of "PAC-MAN by Namco" was declined becauseyou haven't purchased it.' |
| 14:12.24 | Delvien | fgthyujifgthyuj |
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| 14:55.44 | synthead | blah |
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| 14:58.08 | Jozer | Hi all! I'm trying to get my G1 in recovery mode by rebooting then taking power (hangup/red button) and home button, the, after the android logo with the green robot appears, I have to open the slide the hit ALT then L? I tried three times without luck :( Any toughts? |
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| 14:59.36 | synthead | I'm not sure |
| 14:59.52 | synthead | I'm one of many in here though |
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| 15:02.23 | synthead | I'm still trying to find a way into root after the update. A downgrade would be sufficient but it seems like that's not possible either. |
| 15:02.47 | synthead | it seems like this shouldn't be a problem since the entire project is open source |
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| 15:29.14 | infernix | synalx: except for the part where you flash the rom for the first time using the bootloader |
| 15:29.32 | infernix | err, synthead i ment |
| 15:38.47 | bert0 | hello |
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| 16:01.02 | synthead | I'm having issues getting the sdk to recognize my G1 in linux :P |
| 16:01.12 | synthead | is anyone around who can lend me a hand? |
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| 16:56.17 | blau | hey guys |
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| 17:02.48 | nivoc__ | welcome |
| 17:06.34 | KNY | is there a way to get all the child views of an activity? |
| 17:06.51 | KNY | if you have a form and change the screen orientation, any new changes get undone |
| 17:07.19 | KNY | (well, if the Activity is in a TabHost, anyway) |
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| 17:20.35 | orci | hi all, may be already implemented but here is a project idea: it would be nice if there was a project gutenberg downloader and reader |
| 17:20.37 | d0netsFN | anyone home today |
| 17:20.42 | d0netsFN | jasta are you here? |
| 17:21.04 | d0netsFN | im wanting to know if there would be any interest in a mythtv client |
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| 17:24.04 | KNY | d0netsFN, why not start the project and see? |
| 17:25.12 | d0netsFN | http://www.helloandroid.com/node/327 |
| 17:25.18 | d0netsFN | no i wanted people to go vote there |
| 17:25.29 | d0netsFN | and post if you are a member |
| 17:26.36 | d0netsFN | what types of video can be streamed to android atm? |
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| 17:28.39 | blau | youtube! |
| 17:29.36 | d0netsFN | lol |
| 17:29.45 | d0netsFN | so flash |
| 17:30.06 | blau | not really, just youtube |
| 17:30.14 | blau | there isnt a full flash implementation afaik |
| 17:32.24 | blau | any news on whether or not the market stats are correct yet |
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| 17:57.39 | mikey | hmm |
| 17:58.44 | mikey | i cant see any way to type on this app |
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| 18:39.44 | nivoc__ | :D |
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| 18:47.58 | umdk1d3 | interesting |
| 18:48.31 | umdk1d3 | anyone around with a phone handy? |
| 18:48.53 | nickd8301 | I wish, gettin' mine tomorrow :-) |
| 18:49.13 | umdk1d3 | so ive found a combination of things in the source |
| 18:49.30 | umdk1d3 | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/VoiceDialer.git;a=blob;f=AndroidManifest.xml;hb=master#l34 |
| 18:49.37 | umdk1d3 | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob;f=core/res/AndroidManifest.xml#l902 |
| 18:50.03 | nickd8301 | secret codes |
| 18:50.09 | umdk1d3 | hopefully someone can put those two things together, and see what happens on a normal non-root phone |
| 18:50.32 | nickd8301 | uh, did you see the android.intent.action.BRICK |
| 18:50.36 | nickd8301 | I may be careful around here |
| 18:51.00 | umdk1d3 | thats for a different activity |
| 18:51.16 | nickd8301 | ah ok |
| 18:51.22 | umdk1d3 | its interesting to note the different types of OTA updates offered |
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| 18:51.46 | umdk1d3 | wink wink nudge nudge |
| 18:52.26 | nickd8301 | ENG/CAN/NOT ? |
| 18:52.44 | nickd8301 | I'm kind of slow - what do you think they mean? |
| 18:54.05 | chomchom | Hello peeps |
| 18:54.26 | chomchom | I'm just doing my first build of android and poking around in the source |
| 18:55.00 | chomchom | I have to say I'm a little surprised at the organisation of the Apps internally |
| 18:55.11 | chomchom | And I'd like to learn from anyone who could comment on them |
| 18:55.38 | umdk1d3 | surprised how? |
| 18:55.44 | chomchom | I come from a professional Java development background and so the large classes and lack of package structure is initially daunting |
| 18:55.45 | mikey| | umdk1d3! |
| 18:55.51 | mikey| | you online at adullam? |
| 18:56.01 | umdk1d3 | hm i should be lol |
| 18:56.11 | mikey| | i was asking for you yesterday |
| 18:56.25 | mikey| | apparently you're on a trip somewhere |
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| 18:56.30 | mikey| | and using dialip |
| 18:56.31 | umdk1d3 | ah lol yea im on dialup ;) |
| 18:56.36 | chomchom | I'd like to learn from those who could explain the rational for this. |
| 18:56.38 | mikey| | dialup * |
| 18:56.45 | chomchom | ooh on dial up, poor guy |
| 18:56.55 | mikey| | gonna be back anytime soon? |
| 18:57.18 | umdk1d3 | i think i linked at 23.3kbps today, best yet so far |
| 18:57.28 | chomchom | hardcore |
| 18:57.46 | mikey| | where are you anyway? |
| 18:58.02 | umdk1d3 | middle of nowhere in minnesota |
| 18:58.09 | chomchom | 23.3kps, reminds me of when I used to queue mp3s at 64k quality and then wait a week. |
| 18:59.02 | mikey| | bbl |
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| 19:01.41 | nickd8301 | Hm |
| 19:01.42 | chomchom | Just browsing the applications, I cannot see any way of ensuring their maintainability through any form of testing, are there a separate test suite repositories associated with the individual projects that are not retrieved when checking out via the repo tool? |
| 19:02.14 | nickd8301 | umdk: I don't know much about the oTA codes - but I looked them up on wikipedia and they look to be service provider specific |
| 19:02.18 | nickd8301 | are they also phone specifi? |
| 19:05.06 | DarkriftX | umdk1d3: i have a list of those "secret codes" on my wiki |
| 19:05.09 | DarkriftX | android-dls.com/wiki |
| 19:05.26 | DarkriftX | seeems im missing some though :) |
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| 19:08.45 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: shiny |
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| 19:09.04 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: /me knows a few more, but they're useless on non-eng builds. |
| 19:10.08 | DarkriftX | feel free to add them :) |
| 19:10.32 | DarkriftX | i just foudn the "OTAENG" "OTACAN" "OTANOT" ones |
| 19:10.34 | umdk1d3 | ttuttle: im wondering if "normal" phones can be converted ;) |
| 19:11.02 | DarkriftX | converted to what? |
| 19:12.30 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: Oh, okay. That's them. |
| 19:12.36 | DarkriftX | ok |
| 19:12.42 | DarkriftX | what do those do? |
| 19:12.49 | DarkriftX | they dont have descriptions |
| 19:12.50 | umdk1d3 | ... |
| 19:12.53 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: They just change the requested build type. |
| 19:13.11 | DarkriftX | i c |
| 19:13.30 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: Give it a try and let me know what shows up in Device Info. |
| 19:13.41 | DarkriftX | heh, no g1 still |
| 19:13.45 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: :( |
| 19:13.48 | ttuttle | umdk1d3: Er, "converted"? |
| 19:13.50 | DarkriftX | yeah, :( |
| 19:14.15 | ttuttle | umdk1d3: If you 1. can flash anything on your phone (unlocked bootloader or hacked recovery), and 2. have an engineering build, then yes. |
| 19:14.17 | umdk1d3 | so end user devices could get legit root |
| 19:14.18 | ttuttle | umdk1d3: But that's hard. |
| 19:14.36 | DarkriftX | i dont think there is a legit root |
| 19:14.36 | ttuttle | umdk1d3: No they can't. |
| 19:14.43 | DarkriftX | besides using the modified ota method |
| 19:14.45 | ttuttle | umdk1d3: Test builds are signed with a test key, and regular builds don't accept them. |
| 19:14.56 | umdk1d3 | is it just that keys.zip? |
| 19:15.01 | DarkriftX | otakeys |
| 19:15.04 | ttuttle | umdk1d3: Not sure. |
| 19:15.10 | ttuttle | umdk1d3: But you'd need the right key, besides. |
| 19:15.12 | romainguy | umdk1d3: btw, you suck coming here early 1 month early, I won't mentor you because I'll be in Europe :p |
| 19:15.28 | umdk1d3 | oh lol :) |
| 19:15.34 | ttuttle | umdk1d3: It's not easy. |
| 19:15.41 | DarkriftX | the modified ota updates will read the test keys |
| 19:15.58 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: Does it have the test key, or does it just not check the key? |
| 19:16.06 | DarkriftX | they read keys |
| 19:16.07 | umdk1d3 | romainguy: so it was awesome when i saw linux desktops were *standard* =D |
| 19:16.14 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: Whoa. Where'd you get it? |
| 19:16.15 | DarkriftX | so that they will deny the normal OTA's |
| 19:16.27 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: Do you mean test like the internal testing builds? |
| 19:16.32 | romainguy | umdk1d3: well we don't really have a standard since you get to pick your OS |
| 19:16.41 | DarkriftX | i dont know, i just know it says "using test keys" |
| 19:16.45 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: Hrm. |
| 19:16.53 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: Well, you'd still need a testing build. |
| 19:17.10 | DarkriftX | RyeBrye would be able to explain better |
| 19:17.26 | ttuttle | RyeBrye: hey |
| 19:17.33 | DarkriftX | (if he is here) |
| 19:18.08 | ttuttle | likes testing builds ;-) |
| 19:18.22 | umdk1d3 | romainguy: going to europe for holidays? |
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| 19:19.08 | romainguy | and work |
| 19:19.19 | romainguy | I'm going to give a couple of Android talks at Devoxx in Antwerp |
| 19:19.25 | ttuttle | romainguy: Cool. |
| 19:19.36 | ttuttle | romainguy: Hey, you're not wearing any underscores today. |
| 19:20.27 | umdk1d3 | ah cool, sounds like im starting on dec15 |
| 19:20.48 | umdk1d3 | no clue what to expect, but im excited =D |
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| 19:21.24 | DarkriftX | what are you going to be doing there umdk1d3? |
| 19:23.56 | romainguy | umdk1d3: well it's a good time to start, a week later everybody's on vacation :)) |
| 19:25.34 | umdk1d3 | cept i dont think ill have any pto by then, so ill be stuck alone? :P |
| 19:25.46 | DarkriftX | lol |
| 19:25.55 | DarkriftX | just you and security |
| 19:26.22 | DarkriftX | damn, no way you will be able to steal the good secrets with 5 security gaurds and just you :( |
| 19:27.01 | DarkriftX | and the hidden google ninja assassins :( |
| 19:29.07 | ttuttle | ninjas! |
| 19:29.25 | DarkriftX | except the like to be called ninGas |
| 19:30.01 | synalx | i thought that was the gninjas? |
| 19:30.03 | romainguy | umdk1d3: we have like 3 days for christmas and 3 days for new year's eve |
| 19:30.15 | DarkriftX | lol synalx that would actually work |
| 19:30.23 | romainguy | umdk1d3: so at least you'll get that :p |
| 19:30.31 | synalx | :P |
| 19:32.12 | umdk1d3 | romainguy: oh cool, i was wondering about that |
| 19:35.01 | romainguy | besides, I'm taking 4 days at christmas and I have accrued 4 hours... :) |
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| 19:39.53 | DarkriftX | i work thanksgiving day and the day after, but i get paid for 5 days for those 2 |
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| 20:11.46 | dcordes | 2 days ago there were massive commits to the android-msm-2.6.27 branch. can this branch produce a bootable kernel for the g1 already? |
| 20:11.54 | dcordes | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.27 |
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| 20:16.11 | Joz3r | Hi guys. I installed a modded recovery image, that I now want to test. How I can put the phone in recovery mode without corrupting the main firmware? |
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| 20:34.51 | KNY | hey, is anyone else having trouble with their phone when making or receiving calls? people on the other end keep reporting that they don't hear anything but the "gsm buzz" you get when you hold the phone next to a speaker |
| 20:35.07 | KNY | I don't hear anything, but they can't hear anything I say--just the "buzz" |
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| 20:37.50 | dcordes | SanMehat: ping |
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| 20:43.22 | ttuttle | is going to attempt to build and install the open-source tree on his G1. |
| 20:44.11 | Gary|tp | KNY: Had that once, hung up and called back, hasn't happened since |
| 20:44.20 | Gary|tp | and I'm on the phon 6+ hours a day |
| 20:44.26 | KNY | Gary|tp, I just had it happen three times in 24 hours |
| 20:44.31 | KNY | out of four calls I've made |
| 20:44.34 | Gary|tp | hmm |
| 20:44.47 | KNY | and I tried rebooting the phone after the first one but just had it happen twice in an hour |
| 20:44.57 | Gary|tp | No idea :/ |
| 20:44.58 | KNY | I'm on EDGE, if that means anything |
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| 20:46.36 | Gary|tp | OT: when did grandcentral go private? |
| 20:47.23 | dcordes | KNY: did you install the latest software update? |
| 20:47.36 | KNY | dcordes, I'm on rc30 |
| 20:47.38 | KNY | from ota |
| 20:47.50 | KNY | Gary|tp, I can hook you up with an invite if you want |
| 20:48.01 | KNY | though grandcentral has been pretty stagnant for some time now |
| 20:48.04 | Gary|tp | nah I've got one, but I thought invites were off too |
| 20:48.08 | Gary|tp | why? |
| 20:48.31 | KNY | why what? |
| 20:48.40 | Gary|tp | like, just no new features? |
| 20:48.44 | Gary|tp | updates etc? |
| 20:49.06 | KNY | yeah, they had all these big features planned and there hasn't been anything since april 22nd |
| 20:49.16 | KNY | and weird, I guess the invites did disappear |
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| 20:49.38 | Gary|tp | wanted to make one for my GF so she could abuse the unlimited minutes with myfaves thing |
| 20:49.41 | KNY | you would have thought Google would take this Android opportunity and incorporate grandcentral somehow |
| 20:49.52 | Gary|tp | yeah |
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| 20:50.25 | KNY | I like grandcentral except for how hard it is to make outgoing calls. I have to be at my computer with an internet connection, which is pretty pointless |
| 20:50.25 | Gary|tp | at least give us visual voicemail D: |
| 20:50.35 | KNY | and voicemail -> MP3 |
| 20:50.46 | Gary|tp | can't you do it from your phone? or is it flash based? |
| 20:51.22 | KNY | they have a crummy mobile web interface, but that's lame |
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| 20:51.50 | KNY | why can't I just set my outgoing number to be my gc #? a PBX can do it, right? |
| 20:52.55 | Gary|tp | no idea |
| 20:53.24 | Gary|tp | GC should allow you to call your own number, then just dial any number you want to call |
| 20:53.35 | Gary|tp | that could easily be automated with android |
| 20:54.18 | jeev | i got a blackberry curve, suggestions to get the g1 ? |
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| 20:55.55 | KNY | Gary|tp, definitely. Or even an SMS interface like Google's. |
| 20:56.38 | Gary|tp | I suppose you could automate it currently |
| 20:56.52 | Gary|tp | just by making an app that connects via HTTP in the background |
| 20:56.56 | KNY | making the HTTP--yeah. |
| 20:57.23 | KNY | but then you also have to have your GC contacts in sync with your G1 contacts |
| 20:58.42 | blau | whatcha guys tslking bout |
| 20:59.52 | KNY | grandcentral |
| 21:01.11 | Gary|tp | yep, and you'd have to add a contact in order to call them |
| 21:01.44 | Gary|tp | Who knows, maybe Google has some huge update for android planned with GC support, and they'll update gc at the same time |
| 21:01.48 | KNY | yeah. I wonder if Google is going to silently kill off GrandCentral |
| 21:02.19 | Gary|tp | would suck :/, I use it if I need to talk for a while with someone not on myfaves |
| 21:03.00 | KNY | I use it for posting my number online and such because I couldn't care less if telemarketers get a hold of my GC number |
| 21:03.11 | Gary|tp | that too lol |
| 21:03.14 | KNY | I can just straight-to-voicemail them and/or flag as spam |
| 21:05.33 | Gary|tp | Joz3r: if it boots after you reflash the official, then it was corrupted. try reflashing the modded one again. |
| 21:09.40 | KNY | languish, ping |
| 21:10.11 | DarkriftX | KNY, pong |
| 21:10.23 | KNY | ...? |
| 21:10.35 | DarkriftX | sorry |
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| 21:13.22 | DarkriftX | i looked at grand central the other night. seems like something google would buy out |
| 21:13.26 | DarkriftX | just wish i had an invite |
| 21:13.59 | KNY | DarkriftX, they /did/ buy it out. I'd hook you up with an invite but Gary|tp pointed out that they removed them. |
| 21:14.04 | KNY | seems they went private-only |
| 21:14.46 | DarkriftX | ouch |
| 21:14.46 | blau | :( |
| 21:14.51 | DarkriftX | and yeah, i noticed it was bought out |
| 21:14.56 | blau | ive been looing for a gc invite |
| 21:15.01 | DarkriftX | my first comment was just not written right |
| 21:16.12 | DarkriftX | oddly it still asks for an invite code |
| 21:16.22 | DarkriftX | and says the only way to get in is from an invite code |
| 21:17.20 | DarkriftX | slaps google for buying to many sites that they cant even update them properly |
| 21:18.42 | ttuttle | lol |
| 21:18.58 | DarkriftX | it seems lots of stuff google buys kinda dies out |
| 21:19.04 | DarkriftX | like urchin |
| 21:19.45 | DarkriftX | google could have done something amazing with that, but GA sucks hairy goat balls.... |
| 21:19.56 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: Why do so many sites use it then? |
| 21:20.29 | KNY | yeah, I don't know what he's talking about--I like GA |
| 21:20.57 | ttuttle | I mean, I don't particularly like it (it's not a good fit for personal sites), but it looks excellent for commercial sites. |
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| 21:23.01 | KNY | I'd rather watch glTail/glTrail :) |
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| 21:30.06 | oadamo | hi |
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| 21:31.35 | DarkriftX | ttuttle: its better than most of the rest, but cmon.... google owns it, it should be much better |
| 21:31.58 | DarkriftX | look at what woopra did |
| 21:32.08 | DarkriftX | google will probably buy them out next |
| 21:32.09 | DarkriftX | lol |
| 21:33.33 | ttuttle | DarkriftX: What's woopra? |
| 21:33.42 | DarkriftX | the best analytics there is :) |
| 21:33.56 | DarkriftX | its still beta, but its the best |
| 21:34.11 | blau | google owns so much now |
| 21:34.13 | ttuttle | Everything is beta ;) |
| 21:34.21 | DarkriftX | google is going to own the world |
| 21:34.21 | blau | is there a place to see all the things they purchasd? |
| 21:34.28 | DarkriftX | soon there will be no governments, just google |
| 21:34.54 | DarkriftX | "Google buys the UK and US, plans to buy the rest of the world scheduled for tomorrow" |
| 21:35.15 | KNY | US (beta) |
| 21:35.25 | DarkriftX | UK (alpha) |
| 21:35.27 | DarkriftX | lol, jk |
| 21:37.05 | blau | lol |
| 21:37.36 | DarkriftX | im waiting for google to buy out a major tv network :S |
| 21:37.37 | blau | i cant wait for android sdk to have some support for doing stuff with the calendar |
| 21:37.41 | DarkriftX | i can see it now.... more commercials |
| 21:38.07 | DarkriftX | gCNN, now with 1/1 commercial/show ratio |
| 21:38.47 | KNY | hell, many tv shows are nearing that ratio anyway |
| 21:38.48 | benley | seems more likely to me that it would be fewer ads overall if google was doing it |
| 21:39.00 | benley | given the direction google ads have gone on the web |
| 21:39.11 | DarkriftX | maybe |
| 21:46.49 | eldenz | is there an app with improved bookmark manager? |
| 21:46.55 | eldenz | possibly through tags or hierarchies |
| 21:47.01 | blau | sweet got 2 more dollars for my screen on app |
| 21:47.22 | blau | guess ill merge it with myvibration |
| 21:47.34 | eldenz | 'screen on app'? |
| 21:47.46 | DarkriftX | donations or paid? |
| 21:47.49 | blau | turns the screen on when you get an sms |
| 21:47.51 | blau | donations |
| 21:47.56 | DarkriftX | how much so far? |
| 21:48.10 | blau | i think for that one like 10 total |
| 21:48.35 | blau | yeah |
| 21:48.42 | DarkriftX | nice |
| 21:56.31 | eldenz | blau, what's its name? dg SMS Screen Alert? |
| 21:56.48 | blau | yeah |
| 21:57.20 | blau | im uploading a new release today/tommorow |
| 21:57.30 | blau | hopefully |
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| 21:59.08 | EdLin | is there an IRC client available for android? |
| 21:59.22 | infernix | is there a keyboard shortcut for renaming icons on the home screen? |
| 21:59.25 | blau | people are working on them |
| 21:59.54 | mikey| | omg, i cant believe this mistake -.- |
| 21:59.58 | blau | no way to rename icons without an extra program |
| 22:00.02 | blau | infernix, anycut lets you do that |
| 22:00.17 | mikey| | all this time i've been wandering wtf is wrong with my proggie, and it was an arrayindexoutofbounds which I didnt log.d |
| 22:00.21 | mikey| | smacks self |
| 22:00.24 | EdLin | about how many apps have been written for android? |
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| 22:02.56 | Disconnect | EdLin: 3 |
| 22:03.04 | EdLin | I'm sorry for asking stupid questions, I haven't been able to find out this information from google (either their search or their websites on android ;-) ) |
| 22:03.22 | EdLin | Disconnect: I've written a fourth one! |
| 22:03.48 | EdLin | though I haven't tested it on a handset. :-) |
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| 22:09.34 | blau | hey someone give me like a 10 word sentence describing how to enter a series of times in ms |
| 22:09.48 | blau | where they alternate between vibrate x ms and pause y ms |
| 22:10.10 | blau | lol |
| 22:10.26 | infernix | well |
| 22:10.36 | infernix | one thing amazing about the g1 is how quick it charges over usb |
| 22:10.42 | infernix | my 1350mAh Kaiser took 4 hours |
| 22:11.04 | infernix | im not sure but i think G1 charges from ~10% to full in an hour |
| 22:12.19 | dcordes | infernix: heya |
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| 22:12.41 | infernix | hi |
| 22:12.59 | dcordes | infernix: did you get root commandline yet? |
| 22:13.14 | infernix | no, rc30 on it |
| 22:13.49 | dcordes | :'( |
| 22:14.01 | blau | anyone play around with the screen_on, screen_off intent? |
| 22:14.39 | unix_infidel | blau: planning on a malicious app? |
| 22:15.12 | blau | nope |
| 22:15.21 | ttuttle | blau: Yeah, I've played with them. That's why the wifi turns off after 2 minutes with the screen off (unless a wifilock is held). ;-) |
| 22:15.29 | dcordes | infernix: can you establish the telnet connection? |
| 22:15.45 | infernix | havent tried, just started setting up SDK |
| 22:16.04 | blau | for some reason my receiver never gets triger on screen_on or off |
| 22:16.15 | Disconnect | ttuttle: its your fault it doesn't do bog-standard super useful wifi powersaving? :( |
| 22:16.17 | blau | i forgot exactly why i was looking to respond to those though lol |
| 22:16.25 | ttuttle | Disconnect: It does both, I assume. |
| 22:16.41 | ttuttle | Disconnect: And, hey, I was just an intern. I did what I was told. |
| 22:17.23 | blau | i think i was trying to make a "recplacement" for the keyguard lock |
| 22:17.31 | KNY | anyone have any tips on how to get the G1 to be able to send MMS to Verizon? |
| 22:17.39 | ttuttle | blau: I don't think that's possible yet. (You can write it, but you can't make it be a screen lock.) |
| 22:17.39 | Disconnect | it doesn't, or at least idle wifi sucks power like a hooker on a naval base. decent powersaving (1sec or so polling, etc) can cut that -way- -way- down. (alternately, going to deep-save mode on screen blank lets it come back without a huge delay for reassociation) |
| 22:17.43 | KNY | all I'm getting is a white screen |
| 22:17.59 | ttuttle | Disconnect: Hrm. /me doesn't know much about that. |
| 22:18.07 | Disconnect | KNY: it should work fine. i sent one to sprint and verizon both last weekend, works fine |
| 22:18.31 | KNY | Disconnect, nothing here. At first they didn't get anything, then someone online said to send one to 222 first, and now they just get a white screen |
| 22:18.42 | Disconnect | weird |
| 22:18.44 | Disconnect | call 611? |
| 22:20.00 | Disconnect | ttuttle: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/man_pages/iwconfig/ check 'iwconfig power period' and such |
| 22:20.24 | ttuttle | Disconnect: Yeah, I've seen that. |
| 22:20.41 | Disconnect | makes a big difference |
| 22:21.10 | Disconnect | could irc from his n800 for a -very- long time with wifi period set to 2s and so forth |
| 22:21.20 | Disconnect | ..probably still can but i haven't in a long time :) |
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| 22:40.35 | DarkriftX | i think its funny how many ppl find my site by pasting one of my urls into google |
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| 22:40.46 | DarkriftX | instead of pasting it into the address bar, they search for that url :S |
| 22:42.01 | blau | lol |
| 22:42.19 | blau | i do that alot too, since chrome doesnt try to append a .com |
| 22:42.25 | blau | like safari does |
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| 22:45.00 | unix_remote | RyeBrye: did you ever do a writeup on how you got the multitouch demo working? |
| 22:46.56 | blau | ooo |
| 22:47.59 | unix_remote | aaand, RyeBrye makes Techmeme ;-P |
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| 22:54.32 | mikey| | when using ViewFlipper, is there anyway to flip to a window using a tag as a reference? |
| 22:54.56 | mikey| | I can't seem to find any methods for it |
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| 22:56.35 | Damm | wtf |
| 22:56.38 | Damm | i'm sitting here with gps on |
| 22:56.43 | Damm | watching my phone move |
| 22:56.54 | skyjumper | is there a location for open source android apps? |
| 22:57.06 | Damm | the 'my location' is moving up and down, and yet i'm clearly not moving. |
| 22:57.14 | Damm | i'm not sure if that's funny, or sad. |
| 22:57.19 | Damm | skyjumper, source.android.com? |
| 22:57.48 | skyjumper | isn't that just android itself? |
| 22:59.02 | Damm | skyjumper, well there isn't exactly 1 url of all the 'market' apps source code |
| 22:59.59 | skyjumper | was looking for a way to browse only open-source apps. it's probably in there somewhere... |
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| 23:03.38 | DarkriftX | you mean sort market by open source only? |
| 23:03.51 | DarkriftX | interesting but i havent heard of that feature yet |
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| 23:09.36 | infernix | does anyone know what goes on in /sqlite_stmt_journals ? |
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| 23:12.07 | infernix | wonders whether if any root apps read or write from there |
| 23:12.14 | xsdg | infernix: bank statements (no, I have no idea) |
| 23:21.30 | eldenz | anybod knows what's the max mp3 bitrate videoplayer can play? |
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| 23:22.03 | eldenz | VIDEO: [h264] 480x320 24bpp 25.000 fps 462.1 kbps (56.4 kbyte/s) |
| 23:22.03 | MystSparks | hey, I'm not an Androd Java expert or anything, but I was trying to spay with the android-vnc-view code base that was made with the previous SDK. I modified it to get a viewable VNC viewer on the screen, but now.. trying to see what I can do to control a remote session... |
| 23:22.04 | eldenz | AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 64.0 kbit/4.17% (ratio: 8000->192000) |
| 23:22.10 | eldenz | and it tells me it cannot play it ;< |
| 23:22.32 | MystSparks | I get "key dispatching timed out sending to android.androidVNC |
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| 23:23.10 | MystSparks | continuing to wait for key to be dispatched.... on the WindowManager... does that possibly mean that the application isn't doing anythign with user input on the device? |
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| 23:26.29 | aggtrfrad | hey whats the command to install an app from command shell? |
| 23:26.39 | eldenz | aggtrfrad, adb install foo.apk |
| 23:27.36 | aggtrfrad | hm i never had adb |
| 23:30.04 | eldenz | it comes with the sdk |
| 23:30.47 | aggtrfrad | oh i thought i could do it from my phone directly |
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| 23:37.09 | eldenz | ah yes |
| 23:37.32 | eldenz | i'm not sure how :p unless you download it through the browser |
| 23:38.20 | eldenz | i thought you meant 'command shell' as in terminal on your desktop pc |
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| 23:41.08 | eldenz | ah i had the wrong container (avi instead of lavf/mp4) |
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| 23:49.47 | infernix | when you turn off GPS but leave the wireless network location setting on, does that consume much extra power? |
| 23:50.03 | infernix | i would guess not since its based upon cell information which it gets anyway, but i'm not sure |
| 23:50.37 | blau | i dont think so |
| 23:50.44 | blau | i havent noticed a difference |
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| 23:53.03 | infernix | eldenz: it might be the H264 profile you used |
| 23:53.09 | infernix | try various levels |
| 23:53.38 | infernix | or you could try and find out what levels are supported |
| 23:53.46 | infernix | not really sure where to look for that info though |
| 23:53.54 | eldenz | if i can figure out how to set it in mencoder^^ |
| 23:54.00 | infernix | thats the easy part |
| 23:54.16 | blau | any idea if you can expand the "hint" in a preferences dialog? |
| 23:54.30 | blau | the summary i mean |
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| 23:55.31 | eldenz | level_idc |
| 23:57.18 | eldenz | still complains with L2.2 |
| 23:57.38 | infernix | eldenz: whats your commandline |
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| 23:57.56 | eldenz | sec |
| 23:58.32 | eldenz | http://gist.github.com/28326 |
| 23:59.08 | eldenz | audio is mp3 vbr |
| 23:59.17 | infernix | hm are you sure it supports mp3 in mp4? shouldn't that be aac |
| 23:59.32 | eldenz | i will try aac |
| 23:59.39 | infernix | try without audio as well |
| 23:59.52 | infernix | i'll do some testing here too |
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