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| 00:02.13 | Dougie187 | good evening. |
| 00:02.40 | yakischloba | good evening |
| 00:02.48 | yakischloba | place is pretty dead on the weekends |
| 00:03.41 | Dougie187 | heh |
| 00:03.42 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 00:03.46 | Dougie187 | im still looking for michaelnovakjr |
| 00:03.49 | Dougie187 | but he hasnt been around. |
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| 00:13.42 | f00f- | he was here yesterday dougie |
| 00:16.29 | Dougie187 | yeah, thats what i figure.. |
| 00:17.17 | Dougie187 | so hows it going f00f-? |
| 00:17.54 | f00f- | just surviving Dougie187, just surviving |
| 00:17.59 | f00f- | yourself? |
| 00:18.00 | Dougie187 | heh |
| 00:18.02 | Dougie187 | its going good. |
| 00:18.19 | Dougie187 | im going to order my new laptop soon. |
| 00:18.22 | Dougie187 | probably tonight or tomorrow. |
| 00:19.26 | f00f- | what lappy? |
| 00:19.39 | Dougie187 | a thinkpad |
| 00:19.42 | Dougie187 | T61 |
| 00:25.33 | f00f- | nice |
| 00:25.36 | f00f- | toio bad only widescreen |
| 00:25.41 | f00f- | i have a T43p and T60p |
| 00:25.58 | f00f- | T60 has lots of problems |
| 00:26.03 | f00f- | but T61 seems to have improved lots |
| 00:28.31 | Dougie187 | thats cool |
| 00:28.36 | Dougie187 | i dont really mind the widescreen. |
| 00:28.42 | Dougie187 | its 14.1 though, that im gonna get. |
| 00:28.50 | f00f- | ah ok |
| 00:28.55 | Dougie187 | brb |
| 00:28.59 | f00f- | i've been eyeing an X61s for travel |
| 00:29.03 | f00f- | but havent bit the bullet yet |
| 00:29.03 | f00f- | k |
| 00:36.34 | Miek | i use the T61 at work, it's nice :> |
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| 00:55.48 | Dougie187 | well f00f- |
| 00:56.00 | Dougie187 | if you are interested in getting a laptop they have an awesome deal until the 14th |
| 00:56.13 | Dougie187 | there is a 10% off coupon for X series, and 12% cash back through fatwallet. |
| 00:56.16 | Dougie187 | i think at least. |
| 00:56.20 | Dougie187 | lemme check on the coupon part |
| 00:56.35 | Dougie187 | yup. |
| 00:56.36 | Dougie187 | http://www.fatwallet.com/cash-back-coupons/Lenovo |
| 00:57.09 | Dougie187 | the cash back will take a coupon months though, but lenovo has no payments for 6 months on $750 or more. |
| 00:57.20 | Dougie187 | s/coupon/couple/g |
| 01:02.22 | f00f- | ok, yeah i get employee discount |
| 01:02.25 | f00f- | probably around the same |
| 01:02.28 | Dougie187 | this is better then employee |
| 01:02.31 | Dougie187 | employee is 15% |
| 01:02.34 | Dougie187 | that was my other option. |
| 01:02.49 | Dougie187 | thats why im ordering it now. |
| 01:02.51 | f00f- | interesting |
| 01:03.13 | Dougie187 | at least its 15% on T series. |
| 01:03.16 | Dougie187 | but its 8% on R series. |
| 01:03.24 | f00f- | i've seen 25% off at times |
| 01:03.28 | Dougie187 | so it might be a bit more on X Series, but i would assume its the same. |
| 01:05.04 | Dougie187 | just ordered actually. |
| 01:05.10 | f00f- | which config |
| 01:05.52 | Dougie187 | just the base proc, because i couldnt bring my self to spend $120 on the better cache. |
| 01:05.53 | zhobbs | infobot: what is android? |
| 01:05.55 | infobot | zhobbs: what are you talking about? |
| 01:06.10 | zhobbs | infobot: where can I find android |
| 01:06.10 | infobot | methinks android is an Open Handset Alliance Project by Google or an alleged Open Source phone software stack that's really not open. http://code.google.com/android/, or if it's sometime actually freed, someone might port it on the neo, but the provided binaries are incompatible |
| 01:06.35 | zhobbs | ha, wonder who put that in |
| 01:06.49 | Dougie187 | base ram. 14.1 lcd, nvidia graphics, bash hdd, cheapest os, base battery, wireless n, PC slot + media card |
| 01:06.59 | f00f- | how much did it come out to |
| 01:07.57 | Dougie187 | 959 after tax, but im gonna get like 110 back in cash back |
| 01:07.59 | Dougie187 | so about 850 |
| 01:08.21 | f00f- | Bluetooth? |
| 01:08.43 | Dougie187 | no bluetooth, i dont use it much and i have a usb adapter. |
| 01:08.49 | f00f- | and no dvd recordable? |
| 01:09.01 | Dougie187 | oh hell yeah dvd recordable. |
| 01:09.04 | f00f- | regular battery |
| 01:09.06 | f00f- | ? |
| 01:09.07 | f00f- | or 9 cell |
| 01:09.09 | Dougie187 | reg |
| 01:09.19 | Dougie187 | im plugged in most of the time. |
| 01:09.22 | Dougie187 | so i dont need a 9cell right now |
| 01:09.34 | f00f- | no warrant or antyhing special |
| 01:09.40 | Dougie187 | nope |
| 01:10.09 | f00f- | $842.67 |
| 01:10.26 | f00f- | 7662CTO |
| 01:10.35 | f00f- | 14.1 WXGA TFT |
| 01:10.38 | Dougie187 | whats that? |
| 01:10.46 | f00f- | T61 |
| 01:10.48 | f00f- | with nvidia |
| 01:10.54 | f00f- | your confi |
| 01:10.55 | f00f- | g |
| 01:11.01 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 01:11.04 | Dougie187 | but thats before tax |
| 01:11.10 | Dougie187 | then you have to add 60 bucks for tax |
| 01:11.12 | Dougie187 | and its about 900 |
| 01:11.21 | Dougie187 | so mines ~$50 cheaper. |
| 01:12.53 | f00f- | ah yeah it came out to 922.41 with tax and recycling fee |
| 01:13.13 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 01:13.14 | Dougie187 | thats what does it. |
| 01:13.33 | Dougie187 | i was calculating it total, because you have to pay taxes on the cashback first. |
| 01:13.40 | Dougie187 | then you get the cashback back, but not the taxes. |
| 01:14.38 | f00f- | right |
| 01:15.02 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 01:15.11 | f00f- | although 6 months to wait for the money? |
| 01:15.23 | Dougie187 | i dont remember how long it is, but its at least 2 months. |
| 01:15.43 | Dougie187 | its about 3 months. |
| 01:15.45 | f00f- | if it was 6, then i'd just pay the extra $50 |
| 01:15.53 | f00f- | not worth the hassle imho |
| 01:15.59 | Dougie187 | i made an order on 4/19/08 and i get the cash back on 7/18/08 |
| 01:16.41 | Dougie187 | and it works good with the no payments for 6 months too. |
| 01:16.49 | Dougie187 | so you should get your cashback before you have to pay it off. |
| 01:25.41 | Dougie187 | but yeah. |
| 01:25.51 | Dougie187 | im all about saving money. |
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| 02:15.14 | yakischloba | yawn |
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| 02:25.39 | Dougie187 | hows it going yakischloba |
| 02:25.56 | yakischloba | good good. watching some TdF coverage |
| 02:26.25 | Dougie187 | nice. |
| 02:26.49 | yakischloba | I'm going to stay with a friend in Portland who has cable TV. I know what I'll be doing while shes at work ;) |
| 02:26.59 | Dougie187 | Oregon? |
| 02:27.03 | yakischloba | yes |
| 02:27.09 | Dougie187 | thats cool |
| 02:27.11 | Dougie187 | do you live in oregon? |
| 02:27.15 | yakischloba | No I live in Seattle |
| 02:27.23 | yakischloba | I'm just going down to visit for a week or so. |
| 02:27.28 | Dougie187 | thats cool |
| 02:27.57 | yakischloba | yeah I think it'll be relaxing. |
| 02:28.05 | yakischloba | give me some time to get started on android |
| 02:28.43 | Dougie187 | i use to live in oregon. |
| 02:29.25 | yakischloba | I used to think I might wanna move to Portland but I think its so similar to Seattle it might not be worth it. |
| 02:30.04 | Dougie187 | well.. no sales tax. |
| 02:32.56 | Dougie187 | but its got a higher income tax doesnt it? |
| 02:36.07 | yakischloba | Yes there is a state income tax. |
| 02:36.19 | yakischloba | I've never bothered to see how it balances out |
| 02:36.33 | Dougie187 | its 18% if i remember correctly. |
| 02:36.52 | yakischloba | Ow. Well sales tax in Washington is only 8.something% |
| 02:38.03 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 02:38.08 | Dougie187 | and sales is like 6? |
| 02:38.10 | Dougie187 | or 7? |
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| 02:46.19 | yakischloba | There is no state income tax in Washington I don't believe? or at least I haven't had to pay it |
| 02:47.30 | Dougie187 | ohhh ok sales tax in washington though. |
| 02:47.36 | Dougie187 | florida's sales tax is 7.5 |
| 02:49.30 | yakischloba | I buy a lot of food at wholesale cost from work |
| 02:49.35 | yakischloba | I think I sneak by paying sales tax on that |
| 03:04.18 | Dougie187 | heh |
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| 03:15.22 | yakischloba | howdy muthu |
| 03:15.28 | muthu | hey |
| 03:15.33 | muthu | mornin |
| 03:16.25 | muthu | got any apps? |
| 03:17.17 | yakischloba | hah no |
| 03:17.27 | yakischloba | I read a bunch last night and I just got home..reading now. |
| 03:17.34 | muthu | ok |
| 03:18.11 | yakischloba | trying to figure out the whole content provider with something other than sqlite thing |
| 03:18.57 | yakischloba | everything I see assumes you're using sqlite |
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| 03:22.24 | yakischloba | I'm thinking hard to see if I can avoid using a content provider |
| 03:22.35 | muthu | do a orm |
| 03:22.49 | yakischloba | I'm completely new to java and android :( |
| 03:22.59 | muthu | why you are avoiding sqlite? |
| 03:23.25 | yakischloba | because I think its too much messy work to write all your own queries |
| 03:23.33 | yakischloba | its 2008, shit should be easier than that. |
| 03:24.04 | yakischloba | ORM is the way of the future |
| 03:25.45 | yakischloba | looks like that might be beyond my capability at this time though |
| 03:28.39 | muthu | right |
| 03:28.47 | yakischloba | call me crazy ;) |
| 03:28.49 | muthu | what other database are you thinking? |
| 03:29.15 | muthu | the data access is a mess |
| 03:29.20 | muthu | can't argue there |
| 03:29.33 | yakischloba | I meant to say that I'm avoiding using SQLite in the way everyone else seems to be doing |
| 03:29.54 | muthu | there's no other way to do it |
| 03:30.05 | yakischloba | Why not? Aren't there ORM's for java? |
| 03:30.19 | muthu | yeah |
| 03:30.33 | yakischloba | I saw db4o which uses its own database but i havent seen many other things |
| 03:30.53 | yakischloba | well whats wrong with them? is everyones application so light on data access that they dont bother or what? |
| 03:31.43 | muthu | yes, |
| 03:31.46 | muthu | don't bother for now |
| 03:32.13 | muthu | there's too many other things to focus on for now ;) |
| 03:32.44 | yakischloba | hmm. |
| 03:33.21 | muthu | that's the first thing that stuck me btw |
| 03:33.35 | muthu | and i'm sure everyone thought of it |
| 03:33.40 | muthu | but no one did anything |
| 03:34.26 | yakischloba | yeah. |
| 03:35.30 | muthu | since everyone was busy building stuff |
| 03:39.21 | yakischloba | now would be a perfect time, while everyone is bitching about not having anything to do :) |
| 03:39.46 | muthu | oh yeah |
| 03:41.58 | Dougie187 | lol i think they have stuff to do. |
| 03:42.07 | Dougie187 | they just dont care enough to do anything for android right now. |
| 03:42.20 | yakischloba | hehe |
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| 03:42.34 | muthu | guess, not much resources |
| 03:52.13 | Dougie187 | anyways, im out |
| 03:52.14 | Dougie187 | see ya |
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| 04:04.26 | romainguy | yakischloba: ORM is the way of the future << except ORM is expensive stuff to do on a cellphone |
| 04:04.43 | muthu | true |
| 04:04.44 | yakischloba | romainguy: yeah I kinda figured. |
| 04:04.59 | romainguy | and expensive means less battery for the user :) |
| 04:05.11 | muthu | would still be intersted in some lite frameworks |
| 04:05.33 | yakischloba | yeah. it doesn't have to be crazy. |
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| 04:06.37 | romainguy | no but do you really need an ORM? |
| 04:06.47 | yakischloba | yeah if you're a pussy |
| 04:08.53 | muthu | we are all droids ;) |
| 04:17.36 | muthu | is jbq here? |
| 04:17.40 | romainguy | nope |
| 04:17.46 | muthu | great guy |
| 04:18.02 | muthu | love him :) |
| 04:18.41 | muthu | gave a lot of insight from your side |
| 04:18.49 | muthu | really helpful |
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| 05:18.02 | zhobbs | interesting post: http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/msg/fa17b0e011a3b8db?hl=en& |
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| 08:27.52 | anno^da | michaelnovakjr: you there ? |
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| 09:05.46 | muthu | http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/13/gphone-may-really-happen-and-ammunition-group-may-be-designing-it/ |
| 09:06.06 | muthu | GPhone is a good idea |
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| 09:15.25 | davidw | I want one:-) |
| 09:15.49 | muthu | davidw: next year may be ;) |
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| 10:03.03 | sgbirch | is anyone able to help with an N810 install of android? |
| 10:03.41 | sgbirch | I have the deb and the image on the micro-sd but cant see them at all from the file manager or application manager |
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| 12:59.06 | kirkt | looking for an opensource project to work on while learning the android sdk along the way... anyone knows any or manages one and needs help..? |
| 12:59.21 | romainguy | kirkt: ask jasta |
| 13:00.08 | muthu | kirkt: another easy way to find is do an android search in code.google.com |
| 13:00.30 | kirkt | yea i've spent about 4 hours yesterday night looking for an opensource project |
| 13:00.50 | kirkt | its really hard to find one thats nice and that needs help |
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| 13:01.07 | muthu | jasta had a project |
| 13:01.10 | muthu | called 'five' |
| 13:01.22 | muthu | http://code.google.com/p/five/ |
| 13:01.29 | muthu | not sure if he's looking for help |
| 13:02.23 | kirkt | i see |
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| 13:02.55 | muthu | also check anddev.org forums |
| 13:02.56 | cutmasta | hu |
| 13:08.50 | kirkt | yep just did, nothing for opensource there. i'll just stay here and hope jasta will come around. |
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| 13:17.52 | anno^da | michaelnovakjr: you there ? |
| 13:22.44 | muthu | anno^da: still searching for michaelnovakjr__? |
| 13:22.59 | anno^da | yeah just want to ask him something |
| 13:23.13 | anno^da | got a new idea for an android application :) |
| 13:23.40 | anno^da | which includes his addiction to music |
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| 13:45.35 | muthu | great |
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| 14:16.24 | Dougie187 | good morning. |
| 14:28.00 | yakischloba | morning |
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| 14:37.55 | Dougie187 | hows it going? |
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| 18:09.30 | anno^da | Somone experiences with NAS devices ? |
| 18:11.30 | soulreaper | i am on a constant search for a good one |
| 18:17.36 | anno^da | hmm yeah :) |
| 18:17.58 | anno^da | Mine needs to run a Slimserver, consuming less power |
| 18:18.03 | anno^da | thats it :) |
| 18:18.33 | anno^da | the problem is that the slimserver will serve a music library with round about 8000 flac files |
| 18:26.09 | soulreaper | that is something i am constantly searching for... a device which consums very little power |
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| 18:26.37 | anno^da | yeah |
| 18:26.49 | soulreaper | btw... i am in love with this case: http://www.chenbro.com/corporatesite/products_detail.php?serno=100 |
| 18:26.54 | anno^da | the thing is I've found devices which need round about 5-8 W |
| 18:27.16 | soulreaper | 5-8W? the entire system? |
| 18:27.19 | anno^da | but they are too slow to fit my needs |
| 18:27.21 | anno^da | yeah |
| 18:27.43 | anno^da | wait a minute I'll post you the link |
| 18:28.15 | soulreaper | alrighty |
| 18:30.15 | soulreaper | hard to find? i guessed so ;) |
| 18:31.04 | anno^da | haha it is hard to refind it in the forum again :) |
| 18:31.18 | anno^da | just had the thread open 2 hours ago |
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| 18:34.01 | anno^da | got it :) |
| 18:34.02 | anno^da | http://www.fit-pc.com/new/specifications.html |
| 18:34.13 | soulreaper | today i read an article about the new AMD Athlon 64 2000+. it beats the atom system in power usage |
| 18:35.06 | anno^da | yeah that could be |
| 18:36.23 | soulreaper | the system sounds okay |
| 18:36.30 | soulreaper | propably quite affordable |
| 18:36.53 | soulreaper | but i am missing some features like gigabit lan and customizable ram |
| 18:37.49 | soulreaper | also the S in NAS is pretty limited ;) |
| 18:38.31 | anno^da | yeah thats right |
| 18:38.59 | anno^da | you could plugin an external storage but that consumes power |
| 18:39.08 | anno^da | via USB2.0 |
| 18:39.11 | soulreaper | via usb you mean? |
| 18:39.13 | soulreaper | yeah |
| 18:39.18 | anno^da | eSata would be better |
| 18:39.36 | soulreaper | but that is not what i am looking for... a raid 5 or 6 is something i am searching for |
| 18:39.37 | soulreaper | true |
| 18:39.42 | anno^da | Yeah ok |
| 18:39.45 | anno^da | http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/artigo/ |
| 18:39.53 | anno^da | thats another possibility in this class |
| 18:40.50 | soulreaper | true. but not what i am looking for |
| 18:40.56 | soulreaper | you are in search of some kind of music box? |
| 18:41.45 | anno^da | I will use a Squeezebox |
| 18:41.53 | anno^da | as a receiver |
| 18:42.11 | anno^da | and the SqueezeCenter (Slimserver) for serving the music |
| 18:42.26 | soulreaper | sounds good i think |
| 18:42.35 | anno^da | http://slimdevices.com/ |
| 18:42.41 | soulreaper | what i want is storage... a lot of storage |
| 18:42.50 | anno^da | Yeah I recognized that :D |
| 18:42.53 | soulreaper | and a running linux system for downloads etc |
| 18:42.55 | soulreaper | :) |
| 18:43.02 | anno^da | haha :) yeah |
| 18:43.15 | soulreaper | but the box should also support streaming if necesarry |
| 18:43.27 | soulreaper | looks interesting |
| 18:43.49 | anno^da | and the server is under the GPL |
| 18:43.57 | anno^da | which makes it even more interesting ;) |
| 18:44.07 | soulreaper | yeah... i vagualy remember |
| 18:44.25 | anno^da | Yeah it was formally known as Slimdevices |
| 18:44.37 | anno^da | Logitech bought the whole company |
| 18:45.15 | anno^da | I really like the multiroom feature. You can control the musik in every room with one remote. |
| 18:45.28 | soulreaper | that is pretty cool |
| 18:45.44 | soulreaper | i would also like a system which plays the same music in every room |
| 18:45.48 | soulreaper | in sync |
| 18:46.20 | anno^da | And if michaelnovakjr would be here I would propose him to write an remote for android for the slimserver |
| 18:46.32 | anno^da | Thats possbile as well. |
| 18:46.32 | soulreaper | :) |
| 18:46.42 | anno^da | You can sync the music |
| 18:46.44 | soulreaper | i heard the n800 is already running android? |
| 18:47.01 | anno^da | So every room plays the same music in sync :) |
| 18:47.11 | soulreaper | that is good |
| 18:47.30 | anno^da | Yeah it is already running and even the wifi is working. But it is some m3 based setup. |
| 18:47.43 | soulreaper | m3? |
| 18:47.49 | anno^da | the old SDK |
| 18:47.51 | anno^da | version |
| 18:48.08 | soulreaper | ah ok |
| 18:49.15 | gambler | there is a guy who has written a JSR-82 bluetooth remote that works with alot of phones |
| 18:49.21 | gambler | its suprisingly easy to setup |
| 18:49.56 | soulreaper | that are also the logitech remotes which can controll everything |
| 18:50.10 | anno^da | Yeah but they are so expensive. |
| 18:50.19 | soulreaper | sad and true :( |
| 18:50.23 | anno^da | 300 $ for one remote |
| 18:50.37 | anno^da | you could buy an iPod touch for that |
| 18:51.00 | anno^da | and use that http://penguinlovesmusic.de/?page_id=7 |
| 18:51.01 | anno^da | :) |
| 18:51.04 | soulreaper | or anything else which costs 300$ ;) |
| 18:51.13 | anno^da | it is a remote written for OSX controlling the slimserver |
| 18:51.54 | anno^da | and thats what I want for Android as well :-) |
| 18:51.58 | soulreaper | but it doesn't support every decice on earth |
| 18:52.18 | anno^da | Yeah thats true :-) |
| 18:52.41 | anno^da | But I'd like to fit my needs and not every devices need :-D |
| 18:52.54 | soulreaper | i prefere world domination ;) |
| 18:54.48 | soulreaper | speaking of world domination... soon there is nothing left to conquer since the iphone reigns in terror |
| 18:54.59 | soulreaper | so hard times for the android |
| 18:55.10 | anno^da | hmm I wouldnt say that :) |
| 18:55.26 | anno^da | it feels like that at the moment |
| 18:55.34 | anno^da | because of the marketing wave |
| 18:55.51 | anno^da | every tv station, blog, news site is writting about it atm |
| 18:55.51 | soulreaper | even i feel tempted by the dark side |
| 18:56.04 | anno^da | Oh I feel as well but thats no problem :) |
| 18:56.25 | anno^da | it looks clean polished and I like the fancy UI widgets |
| 18:56.35 | anno^da | so no problem about that. |
| 18:56.55 | anno^da | Just the Android UI guys have to work hard :-) |
| 18:57.02 | soulreaper | i also like the eas of use and perceived speed |
| 18:57.48 | soulreaper | but there are a lot of things i don |
| 18:57.57 | soulreaper | 't like so there is still room for the android :) |
| 18:58.08 | anno^da | definetly |
| 18:58.16 | anno^da | I hate the closed system |
| 18:58.42 | soulreaper | closed and very limited. especially since you can't run apps in backgroud or multiple apps |
| 18:58.44 | anno^da | even if I use the Macbook Pro here. But there are a lot of things that I really hate |
| 18:59.10 | anno^da | Yeah this limitations save battery power on the other hand |
| 18:59.19 | soulreaper | yeah true |
| 18:59.37 | anno^da | Having services running all the time can be very battery consuming |
| 18:59.41 | soulreaper | and also protects the phone companies because people can't properly run im voip apps |
| 19:02.26 | soulreaper | but... i do like the idea of the app store. such a repository is a great resource |
| 19:06.45 | anno^da | yeah but from my point of view it has to be more open |
| 19:06.59 | zhobbs | and should be optional |
| 19:07.05 | anno^da | I dont like the idea of subscribing to be able to write apps and so on |
| 19:07.08 | zhobbs | I should be able to install an app from any source if I want to |
| 19:07.14 | anno^da | yeah that as well |
| 19:08.08 | soulreaper | correct |
| 19:08.34 | soulreaper | it is the central idea which is good. there is no other place so you are not going to miss any cool app ;) |
| 19:11.25 | soulreaper | there should be something similar for android where you can specify sources of applications like the sources list in debian |
| 19:11.55 | anno^da | Yeah thats what the Openmoko guys have |
| 19:12.08 | anno^da | they've setup repositories with apps |
| 19:12.22 | anno^da | and you just install them by something like apt-get install ... |
| 19:12.29 | soulreaper | that is cool |
| 19:12.37 | zhobbs | there already are a couple of package management apps for android |
| 19:12.39 | soulreaper | although i don't belive in openmoko |
| 19:12.51 | anno^da | Yeah Tracktroid for example |
| 19:12.58 | zhobbs | yep |
| 19:13.18 | anno^da | I dont believe it as well because they arent backed up by some big carriere |
| 19:13.42 | soulreaper | that is their problem |
| 19:13.49 | zhobbs | what license is the openmoko OS ? |
| 19:13.53 | anno^da | GPL |
| 19:13.57 | anno^da | totally GPL |
| 19:14.00 | zhobbs | cool |
| 19:14.06 | anno^da | every driver |
| 19:14.19 | anno^da | even the CAD files of the case are under ther LGPL |
| 19:14.36 | soulreaper | but how many devices use it? one |
| 19:14.54 | anno^da | and a system that is not really stable |
| 19:15.21 | anno^da | and a system with 3-4 framework iniatives |
| 19:15.24 | soulreaper | maybe the new open symbian is a good alternative |
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| 19:54.28 | davidw | I had a look at an early version of openmoko and wasn't all that impressed |
| 19:54.37 | davidw | I think Android is nice because google has some muscle and dollars |
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| 20:28.32 | Dougie187 | good afternooon |
| 20:33.48 | yakischloba | good afternoon Dougie |
| 20:33.55 | Dougie187 | hows it going? |
| 21:10.03 | yakischloba | pretty good |
| 21:10.11 | Dougie187 | nice. |
| 21:10.17 | yakischloba | tried to take a nap but couldnt fall all the way asleep |
| 21:10.59 | yakischloba | good enough i guess, cant waste the whole afternoon. |
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| 21:11.41 | Dougie187 | heh |
| 21:14.21 | yakischloba | time to swing by work. cya. |
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| 22:10.27 | trigatch4 | whattup |
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