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03:14.15muthuman, GWT + Gears can be the killer!
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15:06.55zhobbs_Hmm, T-Mobile 3G uses different freq than other providers 3G
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15:09.45zhobbs_which means the t-mobile phone might not be 3g'able on other networks after unlocked
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16:04.12morrildlzhobbs_: They use different frequencies in the US, yes
16:05.43zhobbs_morrildl: which means you can't unlock and then use 3g on dif carrier probably right?
16:06.32zhobbs_I really don't want to use t-mobile
16:11.03morrildlzhobbs_: I have no idea.  I'm just pointing out that T-Mobile is an international company and has different spectrum around the world
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17:35.12Kralnmorrildl: I just had a conversation with a reporter about android :-)
17:38.05morrildlKraln: O RLY
17:38.12KralnYA RLY.
17:38.16Kraln:-o
17:38.22morrildlZOMG!
17:38.28morrildlWhat did they ask?
17:38.32Kralnit was more about open source and the google code page
17:38.36Kralnbut also about the android community
17:38.39morrildl*nod*
17:39.45Kralnsort of the how things get done for android
17:39.51Kralnhow is it with only an emulator, etc
17:40.14michaelnovakjrwhat reporter?
17:40.24michaelnovakjrwhy aren't these people talking to google PR?
17:40.39Kralnmichaelnovakjr: because they're reporting, not spewing =)
17:40.49michaelnovakjr?
17:40.59michaelnovakjrare you officially linked to google?
17:41.10Kralnwhy does that matter?
17:41.36Kralnhe wanted to know how the whole post project on google code -> open collaboration thing went
17:41.42michaelnovakjr?
17:42.00michaelnovakjrthe android page?
17:42.20Kralnno, the code.google.com project posting
17:42.52michaelnovakjrwhat about it?
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17:42.59michaelnovakjrisn't it just filling out the form?
17:43.12Kralnthe idea, not how it physically functioned
17:43.25michaelnovakjrfor your project then?
17:43.58Kralnhe wanted to know in general. I was not the only person he spoke with
17:44.23michaelnovakjrwhat did they ask about the android community?
17:45.30Kralnstuff about how active it was, asked about the sdk
17:45.51michaelnovakjrinteresting, where was the reporter from?
17:45.55Kralnbusiness week
17:46.28michaelnovakjrit'll be interesting to see what they have to say, so far the press coverage has been pretty lame
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18:07.45morrildlmichaelnovakjr: lame how?
18:08.42michaelnovakjrmorrildl: the ridiculous rumors getting spread around...
18:09.05michaelnovakjrmorrildl: they aren't all interviewing google PR about google related questions... so the answers have a nice spin on them
18:09.50michaelnovakjri see alot of references to android blogs, which have been known for the rumors
18:10.29michaelnovakjrmorrildl: i have learned to take it with a grain of salt unless there's a google press release linked somewhere
18:10.33morrildlhehehehe
18:10.36morrildlI think that's wise
18:10.46morrildlPeople always assume it's more mysterious than it really is
18:10.54michaelnovakjrthat's half the problem
18:10.56morrildlIntrigue! Drama!
18:11.19michaelnovakjrits a project still in development... what more could you possibly say at this point?
18:14.54morrildlI have learned that people always have lots to say
18:15.42michaelnovakjrindeed, i'm just looking to program.... all there other stuff is kind of irrelevant
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21:41.20Dougie187Good Evenings
22:01.39zhobbsthe beauty of open source: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4980
22:03.20f00f-sourceweare used to by part of cygnus, which got bought by redhat
22:03.24f00f-and redonated i guess
22:04.42f00f-what a fucking asshole
22:05.01morrildlI can't remember if I've seen that before
22:05.07morrildlor if it was a different case
22:05.10morrildl...exactly like this one
22:08.27zhobbsseems like it'll be tricky when android goes open source, all the google devs gotta deal with all kinda of incoming code and figure out what makes the cut
22:09.16f00f-it should be linux-style imho
22:09.28f00f-have some god who yay' or nay's incoming changes
22:10.24zhobbsyeah, seems like you need the hierarchy to come all the way up to 1 person
22:10.37zhobbsmilitary style
22:10.39f00f-or a committee, but it needs to be a low-latency fast acting one
22:10.50f00f-5 minutes per patch or whatever
22:10.58f00f-with delegation to subcommitees
22:11.10zhobbshaha...latency is increasing
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22:15.56morrildlIt will likely be a federation of related projects
22:18.51zhobbsyeah, there will be main framework, address book, sms, email, calculator, webkit, etc etc
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22:37.51morrildlLast I heard, the team is leaning toward a combination of svn and git
22:38.07morrildlthere's also a lot of work going on to set up the governance model
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23:22.11Dougie187everyone have a good weekend?
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