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| 02:44.42 | chomchom | I've got a feature request that might not have been considered. but has bugged me quite a few times |
| 02:44.48 | chomchom | In the error log of the DDMS |
| 02:45.09 | chomchom | it stretches to the end of the window that holds it |
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| 02:46.27 | chomchom | if the log is any wider you have to drag it a little by the top of the column and then move the slider at the bottom and then drag it at the top of the column header and then drag the slider |
| 02:46.47 | chomchom | This may only be a mac thing as I haven't been using windows |
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| 02:48.17 | chomchom | But with SQL queries this is a real nuisance. I don't know if there is anything the google developers could do about it as it may be down to eclipse RCP nuances but I thought it was worth pointing out |
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| 05:55.20 | bruno_____ | Hi, anybody here know how change the MapView position? |
| 05:55.40 | bruno_____ | I am using addContentView(myMapView, new LayoutParams(50,50,100,100)) |
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| 05:56.25 | bruno_____ | it just set the heigth and width, but the X and Y are not changed |
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| 06:06.13 | bruno_____ | Hi |
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| 06:07.10 | bruno_____ | does one here know abou MapView? |
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| 06:13.01 | bruno_____ | is there one awake? |
| 06:13.30 | jerkface03 | i am, but i don't have an answer for you |
| 06:14.44 | bruno_____ | ok |
| 06:15.27 | bruno_____ | I guess that problem can be a android bug |
| 06:15.30 | Gambit- | hm, have you guys used the eclipse plugin to load programs into the emulator? |
| 06:15.38 | jerkface03 | yep |
| 06:15.45 | bruno_____ | cause I am using the right method |
| 06:15.46 | Gambit- | without rebooting the emulator each time? |
| 06:15.50 | jerkface03 | yep |
| 06:16.03 | jerkface03 | just keep the emulator running and hit the run button button in eclipse again |
| 06:16.11 | jerkface03 | it took me a while to figure that out |
| 06:16.16 | Gambit- | How about debugging and stepping through the code? |
| 06:16.20 | jerkface03 | same step |
| 06:16.23 | jerkface03 | keep it running |
| 06:16.26 | jerkface03 | hit the debug run button |
| 06:16.29 | Gambit- | yeah, half my problem is that I'm totally unfamiliar with eclipse as an editor. |
| 06:16.30 | Gambit- | okay, then I must be doing something wrong. I'll have to investigate it later. |
| 06:17.00 | Gambit- | just as long as I know it's possible :) |
| 06:17.06 | Gambit- | what kind of project are you working on, jerkface03? |
| 06:17.17 | jerkface03 | networked twitch gaming stuff |
| 06:17.20 | jerkface03 | u? |
| 06:17.28 | Gambit- | security and crypto stuff. |
| 06:17.34 | jerkface03 | nice |
| 06:17.37 | Gambit- | hopefully |
| 06:17.49 | Gambit- | mostly just exploratory meddling at the moment, naturally. |
| 06:19.24 | Gambit- | what kind of network protocols are you using? |
| 06:19.34 | Gambit- | I assume there's a full tcp/udp stack available? |
| 06:19.51 | jerkface03 | mostly udp |
| 06:19.57 | jerkface03 | it's for a class project |
| 06:20.11 | Gambit- | ahh homework, how fun |
| 06:20.40 | Gambit- | how are you planning on finding other people to play with? |
| 06:21.15 | jerkface03 | well, im planning on having a central server somewhere |
| 06:21.16 | jerkface03 | but |
| 06:21.25 | jerkface03 | just like you, right now im just doing some exploratory meddling |
| 06:21.45 | Gambit- | how far in have you gotten? |
| 06:22.22 | jerkface03 | pretty far, all the core modules have been written up and tested somewhat |
| 06:27.32 | Gambit- | and how has the android api stood up to actual use? |
| 06:27.50 | jerkface03 | it's pretty alright |
| 06:27.58 | Gambit- | not too many major problems/ |
| 06:28.00 | jerkface03 | there are still a few things that haven't been implemented |
| 06:28.05 | jerkface03 | like the bluetooth stuff |
| 06:28.21 | Gambit- | are you able to emulate sms messages and stuff? |
| 06:28.28 | jerkface03 | but no, no major problems. i've only noticed one major bug so far, which will probably be fixed in the next release |
| 06:28.35 | Gambit- | what was ti? |
| 06:28.49 | jerkface03 | and if you bug romainguy enough he'll implement missing features for the next release |
| 06:28.54 | jerkface03 | as in my case with nio |
| 06:29.01 | jerkface03 | Gambit-: mediaplayer problems |
| 06:29.18 | jerkface03 | Gambit-: haven't played much with sms on android yet, so i wouldn't know |
| 06:29.38 | Gambit- | hm, ok |
| 06:29.58 | Gambit- | I seem to remember seeing that there wasn't any way of faking phone calls or other connectivity related stuff in the emulator yet. |
| 06:30.19 | Gambit- | does it bridge the emulator internal interface to your external network interface? |
| 06:31.13 | jerkface03 | http://code.google.com/android/reference/emulator.html |
| 06:31.28 | jerkface03 | check out the telephony emulation section |
| 06:32.01 | Gambit- | what, third and forth paragraphs? |
| 06:32.27 | jerkface03 | what? |
| 06:32.28 | jerkface03 | http://code.google.com/android/reference/emulator.html#telephony |
| 06:32.38 | jerkface03 | you can simulate sms/calling |
| 06:32.43 | jerkface03 | it tells you how |
| 06:32.50 | Gambit- | ooh, missed that section when I was skimming. |
| 06:33.20 | Gambit- | haha that's funny |
| 06:33.46 | jerkface03 | what's so funny about it? |
| 06:34.02 | Gambit- | my screen was exactly the right size to not see all the text below the main screen. |
| 06:37.53 | Gambit- | well that should be enough to get me started... |
| 06:38.14 | jerkface03 | you better get busy if you're hoping to make something in time for the challenge |
| 06:38.20 | jerkface03 | i think the cut off date is april 14th |
| 06:38.21 | Gambit- | challenge? |
| 06:38.26 | Gambit- | shrugs |
| 06:38.35 | jerkface03 | http://code.google.com/android/adc.html |
| 06:39.13 | Gambit- | I doubt anything I'm thinking about would be sufficiently compelling to compete against anyone elses entry. |
| 06:39.31 | Gambit- | plus, I can't commit to the time it'd take to get it to polish level. |
| 06:39.41 | jerkface03 | *shrug* you never know |
| 06:40.16 | Gambit- | s'true :) |
| 06:43.11 | Gambit- | anyways, off to bed, ta |
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| 07:08.17 | raidfive | does anyone know if sqlite is the preferred way to store application settings such as a username/password? |
| 07:08.52 | raidfive | seems to be a bit much to use a database when I'm only storing this information |
| 07:17.20 | muthu | raidfive: what about shared preferences? |
| 07:19.58 | raidfive | I glanced at that but wasn't sure exactly how it worked or if that was what I was looking for |
| 07:20.04 | raidfive | know of a code example using it? |
| 07:21.11 | muthu | yeah sure |
| 07:21.25 | raidfive | ah found the google api demo |
| 07:22.12 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.12 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.13 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.13 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.13 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.13 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.19 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.19 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.19 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.19 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.07 | raidfive | this is persistant? |
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| 07:30.24 | muthu | yes |
| 07:31.41 | jasta | sigh, i'm getting sick now ;) |
| 07:32.53 | raidfive | thanks ... I just got over a cold :/ |
| 07:33.28 | jasta | thanks? do you think irc channels are a sufficient medium to transmit viruses and bacteria? |
| 07:34.43 | raidfive | thanks for the code example! :) |
| 07:34.58 | raidfive | and you never know |
| 07:35.13 | jasta | yes, in this case you do know. |
| 07:38.47 | muthu | hey jasta, any luck with media? |
| 07:40.30 | jasta | no, there's no luck to be had. |
| 07:40.41 | jasta | it's simply an incomplete design, and cannot be made to work right. |
| 07:43.52 | muthu | jasta: how to create an mpeg4 video? what's the best tool? |
| 07:44.10 | muthu | my adc partner is hounding me, and i have no idea |
| 07:44.23 | jasta | mencoder, of course. |
| 07:44.34 | jasta | or transcode |
| 07:45.07 | muthu | can you do it from quicktime? |
| 07:47.23 | jasta | who knows / doubt it. |
| 07:47.58 | muthu | ok |
| 07:48.21 | jasta | i'm sure you can find some commercial tools to do this as well, if you're looking to avoid a small bit of reading. |
| 07:49.22 | muthu | yup got an encouraging mail from my partner.. doing the exact same thing |
| 07:49.51 | muthu | hope it works.. i'm getting distracted on this whole video thing and not able to make any real progress with code |
| 07:50.02 | jasta | i have avoided the problem for now. |
| 07:50.09 | jasta | onto more interesting things :) |
| 07:50.18 | muthu | rock on :) |
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| 07:55.06 | muthu | OSGi on Android? woah - http://www.adon-line.de/kunden/prosystBlog/?p=24 |
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| 08:24.56 | romainguy | yo |
| 08:31.58 | muthu | yo yo |
| 08:32.11 | muthu | whats up romain? |
| 08:32.59 | romainguy | tired |
| 08:33.05 | romainguy | late night hacking for the past three days |
| 08:33.23 | muthu | ha.. that's what weekends do to you |
| 08:33.35 | jasta | what? no drinking this weekend at all? |
| 08:33.36 | romainguy | except it's for work :) |
| 08:33.51 | muthu | thanks for clarifying ;) |
| 08:34.07 | muthu | i drank too much :) |
| 08:34.13 | romainguy | jasta: I did, yesterday afternoon; there was a St Patrick's parade in the street where I live |
| 08:34.21 | romainguy | but hey, deadlines... |
| 08:34.28 | jasta | have you seen the celebration they do in Chicago? |
| 08:34.34 | romainguy | nope |
| 08:34.50 | jasta | they dye the chicago river green |
| 08:34.57 | muthu | what? |
| 08:35.03 | muthu | really?? |
| 08:35.06 | jasta | hang on, ill find a photo |
| 08:35.38 | muthu | i thought the US rules were pretty strict in terms of polluting |
| 08:35.49 | jasta | http://www.greenchicagoriver.com/ |
| 08:36.06 | jasta | muthu: they may well (and probably do) use a non-toxic dye. |
| 08:38.05 | muthu | i like any celebration that encourages you to drink from 8am |
| 08:45.18 | jasta | muthu: i just looked it up, they use a vegetable dye that only works for a few hours. |
| 08:45.52 | muthu | oh great |
| 08:48.59 | romainguy | prff |
| 08:50.44 | jasta | well anyway |
| 08:50.51 | jasta | i had a hell of a weekend, but didn't do a bit of work :) |
| 08:51.21 | jasta | ditched and went snowboarding all day Friday, then went out with my buddy who just got back in town from NY. |
| 08:51.33 | jasta | then threw a st patty's day party at my house last night |
| 08:52.03 | jasta | and sat around all day today drinking loads of water and watching mythbusters |
| 08:52.11 | jasta | great time :) |
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| 08:53.08 | muthu | man.. wonderful! |
| 08:54.28 | muthu | yesterday there was a family get together.. so it went well for me |
| 08:54.35 | jasta | i'm doing family stuff tomorrow |
| 08:54.40 | muthu | and the delicious chicken biriyan!! |
| 08:54.47 | jasta | we're Irish, so probably corn beef and cabbage at my brother's house or something |
| 08:54.54 | muthu | grea |
| 08:54.58 | muthu | great |
| 08:55.19 | muthu | why the chicken biriyani turned out well was we hired a professional cook |
| 08:55.54 | muthu | as for as biriyani.. chennai & hyderabad is the place to be |
| 08:56.04 | muthu | jasta: have you tried biryani? |
| 08:56.40 | jasta | nope, never even heard of it |
| 08:57.09 | muthu | its a spicy mix of rice and chicken |
| 08:57.21 | muthu | or lamb or beef |
| 08:57.52 | muthu | try it next time |
| 08:58.02 | jasta | next time what? |
| 08:58.22 | muthu | if you ever go to a indian restaurant that is |
| 08:58.48 | jasta | ahh, you know i have to be honest |
| 08:58.56 | muthu | tell me |
| 08:59.04 | jasta | indian food is quite delicious, but i have a really hard time detecting much difference between the various dishes and types of curry |
| 08:59.26 | jasta | i mean really. there are like 30 things on the menu or so. of them, i'd say i could distinctly detect 5 or 6 :) |
| 08:59.29 | muthu | true.. there's a lot of varieties |
| 09:00.00 | muthu | yup.. there's many styles south, north, kashmiri, punjabi, hyderabadi |
| 09:00.02 | muthu | so on and on |
| 09:00.26 | jasta | it seems to break down into just three general categories: spicy curry, sweet curry, or something cooked in the tandoor oven :) |
| 09:00.50 | muthu | basically down south is rice, north is nan, roti etc., |
| 09:01.02 | muthu | the kebabs would be great |
| 09:01.55 | jasta | most restuarants in america i've experienced push both rice and naan on you. |
| 09:02.38 | jasta | which is fine, because they are delicious, and we are civil and eat with forks :) |
| 09:02.49 | muthu | haha |
| 09:02.50 | muthu | lol |
| 09:03.15 | muthu | i'll say try two things.. biriyani & kebabs |
| 09:03.36 | muthu | idly, dosa are the south indian delicacies |
| 09:05.37 | jasta | i've had kebabs before of course, but those are not strongly associated with indian cuisine in the US. |
| 09:06.00 | muthu | indian cusine is diverse just like the people |
| 09:06.01 | jasta | lots of cultures have a similar concept, and even many others have similar combinations. |
| 09:06.56 | muthu | every state has its own thing |
| 09:07.05 | jasta | muthu: Is it? Not that I have studied it much, but I wouldn't say that Indian food is especially diverse :) |
| 09:07.11 | jasta | In fact, it seems kind of narrow to me :) |
| 09:07.39 | jasta | French cuisine, for example, I'd more generally regard as diverse. |
| 09:08.11 | muthu | just take south indian food as an example |
| 09:08.47 | muthu | i wouldn't argue about indian restaurants in US because.. they tend to stock only the select few items |
| 09:09.12 | muthu | that's the problem |
| 09:10.38 | jasta | lamb rogan josh, btw, is my favorite :) |
| 09:10.53 | muthu | yeah.. good |
| 09:11.16 | muthu | i try to imagine the indian restaurants in US and i can see your point about diversity |
| 09:11.27 | muthu | its the same old boring stuff all over |
| 09:11.44 | jasta | i will try biryani though. i do eat at indian restaurants quite often. |
| 09:12.07 | muthu | tell me what irish food is good? |
| 09:12.37 | jasta | Irish food is very simple, typically. You find a lot of things like just quality, simple stews, flavorful breads, etc. |
| 09:14.20 | jasta | Not much to write home about, and that's obviously why it hasn't penetrated many other parts of the world. But, it's a food very well paired with a pint of Guiness :) |
| 09:14.57 | muthu | great |
| 09:17.16 | jasta | now, the Irish have a weird take on breakfast I will say that. |
| 09:17.36 | romainguy | jasta: it's because they live too close to the brits |
| 09:18.19 | jasta | Shit like blood pudding is very popular there, which even my traditional Irish catholic father can't stand :) |
| 09:19.25 | muthu | wow blood pudding.. man that must be tasty ;) |
| 09:19.42 | jasta | Irish soda bread is very good though, and it's served everywhere for everything |
| 09:20.52 | muthu | ok.. i'll try soda bread then |
| 09:21.28 | jasta | The analogy would be Indian naan, so, it wouldn't make much sense to eat it on its own. |
| 09:22.06 | muthu | what would be the side dish? |
| 09:22.16 | muthu | i mean the accompaniments |
| 09:22.18 | jasta | *everything* :) |
| 09:22.36 | jasta | nearly every meal in Ireland has soda bread with it; breakfast, lunch, and dinner. |
| 09:23.24 | muthu | and you think indian foods are not diverse.. come on! |
| 09:23.43 | jasta | I don't think Irish food is diverse either. It's sort of backwards to me, really :) |
| 09:24.15 | muthu | chinese/japanese i guess they are the diverse ones |
| 09:25.22 | jasta | My typical died includes a lot more Thai food than anything else hehe. But I'm from Seattle, so that's not hard to imagine. |
| 09:25.36 | muthu | wow thai food - delicious |
| 09:25.53 | jasta | Yes, their cuisine is much more deserving of praise :) |
| 09:26.03 | muthu | true.. i love it |
| 09:26.17 | muthu | oh.. sorry mistaken it with vietnamese |
| 09:26.31 | muthu | the one i remembered was vietnamese in atlanta |
| 09:26.37 | raidfive | does anyone know how I can find a files size? |
| 09:27.05 | jasta | raidfive: You can use java.io.File |
| 09:27.12 | raidfive | I noticed we have to use ApplicationContext.openFileInput(filename) to open the file |
| 09:27.55 | jasta | raidfive: you can also just get the path to that full pathname on disk. |
| 09:28.10 | jasta | err, something like that. that sentence was jumbled :) |
| 09:28.46 | raidfive | ok thanks |
| 09:29.09 | jasta | not that this is a recommended approach. |
| 09:30.06 | jasta | muthu: oh boy, 2:30, bed time :) |
| 09:30.47 | muthu | good night |
| 09:30.48 | romainguy | I should do the same |
| 09:30.49 | romainguy | :( |
| 09:30.58 | romainguy | STUPID ALPHA CHANNEL @!# |
| 09:31.24 | muthu | sunday nights are hard to sleep early |
| 09:33.50 | duey | blames the alpha channel too |
| 09:35.06 | romainguy | thanks :) |
| 09:36.14 | duey | RGB was jelous of CMYK because CMYK had 4 colours, so RGB created an imaginary colour and called it alpha |
| 09:37.02 | romainguy | and both RGB and CMYK are jealous of Lab's camel case |
| 09:37.20 | duey | so they turned on caps lock in protest? |
| 09:37.31 | duey | zzz time |
| 09:37.32 | duey | cya |
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| 13:50.13 | littleball | hello, anyone knows WAP? |
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| 16:05.16 | Zer0Her0 | have there been any android vs iphone sdk comparisons yet? |
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| 16:13.16 | davidw | Zer0Her0, mmmm... nothing good, afaik |
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| 16:14.54 | Zer0Her0 | yea i've seen some overview type blog posts |
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| 16:15.54 | Zer0Her0 | but nothing really substantial, and i definately don't have the knowledge/background to know what to look for/how to compare. |
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| 17:17.17 | muthu | glad, my monday is over.. phew! |
| 17:17.36 | romainguy | mine is just starting :p |
| 17:22.09 | muthu | have fun romain |
| 17:22.47 | muthu | actually i did some work today.. since the #android was very quiet |
| 17:39.56 | muthu | http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080317005934&newsLang=en |
| 17:40.40 | muthu | webtide port jetty to android - iJetty here i come.. |
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| 17:45.35 | muthu | how cool is that.. now you can write web applications to run on android |
| 17:51.19 | inZane-_ | does someone have an idea how to perform a sql join against the android contacts table?! |
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| 18:30.10 | jasta | inZane-_: It doesn't really work that way. Since your only means of interaction comes from a content uri and query parameters, you'll need to find a content uri that matches the type of query you're after. |
| 18:30.29 | jasta | If one doesn't exist, then it represents an omission on Google's part, and should be filed as an issue/feature request. |
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| 18:31.14 | jasta | That said, you can of course 'join' the data yourself. For example, you could implement an adapter which can wrap multiple cursors and logically combine the data contained. |
| 18:31.29 | jasta | Certainly a very tedious solution, but this is of course a work-around for an incomplete content provider design. |
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| 18:32.04 | jasta | Content providers are very difficult to design well. You must expose a great deal of functionality from an inherently inflexible design pattern. Hopefully the concept will evolve a bit from what it is today. |
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| 18:47.35 | inZane-_ | jasta: i considered implementing an adapter. the way i do it now is to perform a query for every row. im not sure if an adapter will bring any performance improvements... |
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| 20:05.00 | jasta | inZane-_: like i said, there is likely a content uri that you can use which joins the things you are interested in. |
| 20:05.43 | jasta | if not, yes, use an adapter. performing a query per row is very inefficient. |
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| 20:07.57 | jasta | hey romain |
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| 22:39.37 | davidw | hrm... it would be super handy to be able to set properties via the command line |
| 22:42.59 | romainguy | what properties? |
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| 23:36.32 | MrKeuner | are there android capable phones already? |
| 23:36.45 | MrKeuner | will openmoko be one? |
| 23:39.42 | f00f- | not really |
| 23:39.52 | f00f- | if they choose to, sure |
| 23:39.54 | davidw | romainguy, stuff like gsm.sim.line1.number |
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| 23:43.42 | o3u | Hi, how can i access the "address" field of contacts ? |
| 23:44.21 | o3u | i've read on a forum that it's automatically converted into a location, is that the case? |
| 23:45.42 | MrKeuner | f00f-: any phone device in development? |
| 23:48.38 | davidw | sleep time for me |
| 23:48.52 | davidw | MrKeuner, no, just tin cans and string |
| 23:51.43 | tmcneal | o3u: you can access the contact data through a ContentProvider |
| 23:52.14 | tmcneal | http://code.google.com/android/devel/data/contentproviders.html |
| 23:52.59 | f00f- | MrKeuner: yep, deifnitely, can't really disclose publicly yet. sorry. |
| 23:53.08 | tmcneal | Can I associate a 'value' to each row in a ListAdapter? |
| 23:53.43 | jasta | tmcneal: you can extend an adapter and implement something like that. |
| 23:54.07 | tmcneal | Like say I have a sqlite table that has two columns, 'name', and 'id'. And I want to display the 'name' of each row, but when the user clicks it I want it to return the 'id' of that row. |
| 23:54.11 | tmcneal | hmm, ok. |
| 23:54.14 | jasta | or, more efficiently but also more awkward, you could extend the cursor and add that data. |
| 23:54.42 | jasta | tmcneal: Uhm, for that you would not do either, instead you'd just use a SimpleCursorAdapter. |
| 23:54.48 | tmcneal | excellent |
| 23:55.17 | jasta | SimpleCursorAdapter has a gotcha, though. It works very well for nearly all cases, but not all cases ;) |
| 23:55.18 | tmcneal | i knew there'd be a simple way of doing it, just didn't know what it was :) |
| 23:55.25 | tmcneal | haha oh boy. |
| 23:55.43 | tmcneal | well my case is simple, it's nothing more than the name and id example i gave. so hopefully it works fine :) |
| 23:56.28 | jasta | SimpleCursorAdapter (actually, CursorAdapter) automatically binds the list id to the Cursor's "_id" column. So, what you are after is actually very conveniently handed to you. |
| 23:56.47 | MrKeuner | f00f-: I guess you cannot disclose any time frame either? |
| 23:56.59 | jasta | the _id column will be handed to you by value in the OnListItemClickListener |
| 23:57.05 | f00f- | only within the next 4 quarters :) |
| 23:57.22 | f00f- | btw, _id column hacks are horrible. |
| 23:58.48 | jasta | f00f-: I can't say that I agree. It is simply a nicety consistently utilized in the system. There is no reason to depend on it. |
| 23:58.58 | jasta | Or rather, no need to. |