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| 00:12.39 | eighty | quick q: how does IntentReceiver connect to a Service after calling Context.startService()? |
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| 01:03.47 | jmhodges | hey, i saw a mention of this in the docs, but can't find it. how do you set eclipse to run your project as an Android application by default, without having to select the application type/ |
| 01:04.01 | f00f- | i forgot, must be the run dialog |
| 01:04.08 | zhobbs | jmhodges: I've been wondering the same thing... |
| 01:04.20 | jmhodges | zhobbs: hah |
| 01:04.25 | jmhodges | f00f-: i cant' find it in there |
| 01:04.34 | jmhodges | just the list of the options. no option to set a default |
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| 01:13.48 | f00f- | just click the play button |
| 01:13.49 | f00f- | and hit enter |
| 01:14.07 | f00f- | this is an eclipse question |
| 01:14.10 | f00f- | try #eclipse |
| 01:51.19 | morrildl | heh heh heh |
| 01:51.37 | zhobbs | you laughing at apple? |
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| 02:12.02 | morrildl | zhobbs: I am laughing. |
| 02:12.29 | morrildl | "Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?" "No, sir, but I do bite my thumb!" |
| 02:12.37 | morrildl | ;) |
| 02:12.44 | zhobbs | :) |
| 02:12.49 | morrildl | Actually I am just excited |
| 02:12.54 | morrildl | Going to be a very very interesting year |
| 02:13.02 | zhobbs | yes it will |
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| 05:48.22 | Aetmo1 | Hey, just saw this binary XML file reader / dump: http://devtcg.blogspot.com/2008/03/tool-to-read-android-binary-xml-files.html |
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| 06:06.09 | jasta | Aetmos: i wrote thattttt. |
| 06:06.11 | jasta | that* :) |
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| 07:14.35 | duey | dirty perl hacker jas |
| 07:14.38 | duey | jasta, |
| 07:15.06 | duey | goto :| |
| 07:34.10 | thedaniel` | anyone ever run into org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: Plug-in com.android.ide.eclipse.editors was unable to load class com.android.ide.eclipse.editors.manifest.ManifestSourceViewerConfig. |
| 07:34.15 | thedaniel` | ? |
| 07:38.45 | thedaniel` | nvm, eclipse -clean solved it |
| 07:39.27 | jasta | duey: meh. |
| 07:39.50 | jasta | blame their weird format, i didn't see that part coming :) |
| 07:39.54 | jasta | so, didn't design around it |
| 07:40.06 | romainguy__ | who cares |
| 07:40.07 | romainguy__ | it works |
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| 14:03.18 | davidw | WTF is up with this stupid techcrunch comment form |
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| 15:00.19 | davidw | ok, it's doing screwy things with the audio:-/ |
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| 15:10.09 | Lede | hello |
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| 15:10.24 | *** topic/#android by morrildl -> Why are our IRC channel topics so boring, anyway? Discuss. |
| 15:10.43 | morrildl | Hello, Lede |
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| 15:16.02 | Lede | morrildl !! |
| 15:16.14 | morrildl | Lede!! |
| 15:16.14 | Lede | morrildl do you know how many applications have been submited? |
| 15:16.17 | Lede | !! |
| 15:16.26 | morrildl | Lede yes, but I can't talk about it :) |
| 15:16.29 | Lede | !!! |
| 15:16.32 | Lede | :P |
| 15:16.38 | morrildl | !!!! |
| 15:17.16 | morrildl | hmm |
| 15:17.20 | morrildl | maybe a gasp/ |
| 15:17.22 | morrildl | ? |
| 15:17.26 | Lede | nah |
| 15:17.28 | morrildl | *gasp*! |
| 15:17.38 | morrildl | surprised face? |
| 15:17.46 | Lede | yeah |
| 15:17.56 | morrildl | heh heh |
| 15:18.03 | Lede | or we should carry around signs :-o |
| 15:18.09 | morrildl | hahaha |
| 15:18.21 | morrildl | We share an office with Dick Wall, who does Java Posse |
| 15:18.29 | morrildl | for some reason he has these signs left over |
| 15:18.45 | morrildl | they say "Applause" or "Laughter" or "Silence", similar to old-school TV shows |
| 15:18.51 | Lede | heh nice |
| 15:18.55 | morrildl | so we have them hanging in the office :) |
| 15:19.02 | morrildl | and we move an arrow around to reflect our mood |
| 15:25.50 | morrildl | arriving at the office... brb |
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| 15:33.03 | michaelnovakjr | i am sure this has been brought up already.... objective-c/C api for a phon |
| 15:33.04 | michaelnovakjr | e |
| 15:33.19 | michaelnovakjr | my question, why java? |
| 15:36.22 | davidw | being sure that it has, maybe you could look for discussions of it?:-> |
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| 15:50.55 | plusminus_ | morrildl: the submissions for adc are only judged by "the idea" or also additional documentation and clear-coding ? |
| 15:51.16 | morrildl | plusminus_: they will be judged on what you give us |
| 15:51.30 | plusminus_ | ^^ |
| 15:51.32 | morrildl | source isn't required (and probably won't be looked at anyway) |
| 15:51.42 | plusminus_ | ok thx |
| 15:51.50 | morrildl | we are looking for actual apps that run, but they don't have to be finished |
| 15:52.13 | morrildl | for instance, right now you'll need to provide a location provider |
| 15:52.20 | morrildl | a mockup I mean |
| 15:52.30 | morrildl | so if you need to stub something out you can mention that in your docs |
| 15:52.31 | plusminus_ | yep |
| 15:52.32 | plusminus_ | so a small paper with final functionality may be good |
| 15:52.36 | morrildl | exactly |
| 15:52.38 | plusminus_ | ok |
| 15:52.39 | plusminus_ | ^^ |
| 15:53.09 | Lede | morrildl: are you allowed to upload a pdf? |
| 15:53.30 | davidw | is it just me or are the mediaplayer things cited on /docs/toolbox/apis/media.html ... 'not quite right'? |
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| 16:09.18 | davidw | it just kind of hisses at me |
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| 16:24.17 | davidw | does this FaceDetector thing actually work? |
| 16:24.33 | jasta | i bet not |
| 16:27.31 | davidw | it's actually in the docs |
| 16:29.25 | morrildl | Lede: for docs, yes |
| 16:33.03 | morrildl | davidw: I have seen face detection work. whether it works in M5, I can't say b/c I haven't tried |
| 16:33.07 | morrildl | it's SUPPOSED to work :) |
| 16:33.44 | davidw | interesting |
| 16:36.27 | davidw | any idea about wav files being mangled by the mediaplayer? |
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| 16:39.12 | morrildl | not offhand |
| 16:39.14 | morrildl | do MP3s work? |
| 16:39.22 | morrildl | are you using a network URI or playing locally? |
| 16:43.42 | davidw | from a res/raw/ file |
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| 16:55.57 | davidw | motion detection would be cool too |
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| 17:03.11 | davidw | mp3 works fine |
| 17:03.15 | davidw | damn...need to go out |
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| 17:08.15 | davidw | http://simplythebest.net/sounds/WAV/sound_effects_WAV/sound_effect_WAV_files/attention.wav is the very androidy wav that doesn't seem to work |
| 17:10.20 | davidw | ah well..got to go...later |
| 17:11.11 | jasta | lol |
| 17:16.58 | jasta | http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/your_mom_wasnt_your_dads_first.jpg |
| 17:17.06 | jasta | err, didnt mean to post that here :) |
| 17:17.13 | jasta | sorry :) |
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| 17:52.33 | jasta | gah, why are IT personnel typically so incompetent and paranoid? |
| 17:53.23 | jasta | i'm so sick of networks blocking ICMP traffic, restricting outgoing access to only a small handful of TCP ports (80, 443, etc)... |
| 17:53.55 | Lede | jasta: i know |
| 17:54.05 | Lede | i'm also incompetent and paranoid |
| 17:54.13 | jasta | it always seems to be the biggest companies, with the most money invested in their IT infrastructure that are like this too. |
| 17:54.24 | jasta | Lede: lol, what? |
| 17:54.38 | Lede | it's true. |
| 17:54.58 | Lede | i try to work on it, being less incompetent that is. |
| 17:55.03 | jasta | it seems to be that paranoia always follows incompetence, which is the most comical to me because the paranoia rarely results in greater security. |
| 17:56.44 | jasta | i was at Cooper Industries (a large company, suffice it to say) last month and their wireless network there was open without encryption but MAC filtered so that the IT personnel had to manually add each employee laptop. Their assumption was that this gives them absolute control over who has access to their network. |
| 17:57.02 | jasta | Instead, while I was sitting in the lobby, I sniffed traffic, picked up a MAC address, spoofed, and voila. |
| 17:58.10 | jasta | when i tried to explain to their head IT guy that this was both possible and easy to do, he just seemed to want to bury his head in the sand instead of actually listen and possibly learn a thing or two |
| 17:58.43 | Bonkers | at least it's better than nothing, kinda |
| 17:59.37 | jasta | i once had the misfortune of dealing with a major ISP about one of their routers being faulty (as per http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/), and they absolutely insisted that the reason my network connectivity was degraded was because Linux is poorly programmed and does not adhere to "web standards" |
| 17:59.38 | zhobbs | it's crazy that someone in IT would assume that's the best way to control the network |
| 17:59.46 | jasta | "web standards" is what they kept saying when referring to a TCP window scaling bug. |
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| 18:01.15 | Bonkers | wait, the internets != the web? |
| 18:01.27 | Lede | internets is made out of tubes |
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| 18:02.17 | jasta | Bonkers: Kind of. This way, not only was I able to get access to the Internet, but I would have also been able to compromise any application layer system that happened to be in use wirelessly. |
| 18:02.41 | jasta | Assuming that the application layer system is vulnerable in some way, which I'm certain you can find quite a few on a Windows network administered by retarded monkeys. |
| 18:03.23 | jasta | When I said this, their head IT person said "Well show me then? If you think it can be done why don't you prove it?" |
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| 18:03.41 | jasta | As if I could somehow just start typing up a storm and just like in the movies start flying through their mainframe. |
| 18:03.58 | jasta | instead of diligently studying captured packets and doing security research. lol, idiots. |
| 18:04.03 | zhobbs | that's how I do it...just like the movies |
| 18:04.38 | zhobbs | 1's and 0's flying around, fancy graphics of me zooming through their circuit boards, |
| 18:04.49 | Bonkers | I break AES encryption all the time with a few button clicks |
| 18:05.00 | Bonkers | 'wait, I know this!' |
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| 18:10.16 | lenni_-_ | is it okay to import thing like java.util.regex into android classes? |
| 18:12.18 | zhobbs | lenni_-_: sure, it's in android.jar |
| 18:13.03 | lenni_-_ | can i use my non-android classes and just copy and paste them into my android programmes? |
| 18:13.19 | zhobbs | probably |
| 18:13.24 | jasta | lol |
| 18:13.25 | lenni_-_ | without having to worry about importes |
| 18:13.31 | lenni_-_ | imports |
| 18:13.38 | jasta | lenni_-_: do you know Java at all? :) |
| 18:13.52 | lenni_-_ | not that well |
| 18:14.00 | jasta | you might want to start there :) |
| 18:14.28 | lenni_-_ | ok |
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| 18:30.47 | cutmasta | hi i get a error that i have to use android.permissions.READ_CONTACTS |
| 18:30.57 | cutmasta | but i have this line in my android manifest |
| 18:31.08 | cutmasta | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.08 | cutmasta | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.19 | cutmasta | ah i got it |
| 18:34.22 | cutmasta | id is wrong |
| 18:34.26 | cutmasta | should be android:name |
| 18:34.31 | cutmasta | :) |
| 18:36.06 | _avatar | is there any information about the format of sd cards used for android? like maximum path length, invalid path characters, filesystem type, etc? |
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| 18:43.59 | jasta | _avatar: It's FAT32, I think. just check /etc/mtab |
| 18:44.41 | jasta | oh, they dont have an /etc/mtab ;P |
| 18:44.46 | jasta | well, /proc could tell you |
| 18:46.52 | _avatar | I'll check it out, thanks :) |
| 18:48.04 | jasta | you could also just run file on the file in ~/.android :) |
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| 19:15.42 | Lede | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=574#comic |
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| 19:37.43 | f00f- | i got some weird android crashes yesterday |
| 19:37.59 | f00f- | totally cored the VM |
| 19:38.17 | f00f- | something to do with my local IntentReceiver timing out |
| 19:38.21 | f00f- | while forking a thread |
| 19:38.42 | f00f- | combined with using System.out |
| 19:43.57 | davidw | sounds like a heisenbug |
| 19:45.01 | romainguy_ | davidw: just like the bug I fixed yesterday |
| 19:45.06 | romainguy_ | that would not reproduce with the debugger attached |
| 19:45.23 | davidw | I hate those |
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| 19:50.05 | cutmasta | does somebody know if android browser supports http uploads? |
| 19:50.21 | cutmasta | i have written an example web app for uploading a db file |
| 19:50.32 | cutmasta | but i cant select any file in android |
| 19:52.10 | f00f- | <input type="file" .... |
| 19:52.16 | f00f- | if it doesn't work, then it doesn't support it |
| 19:52.28 | f00f- | i'd suggest doing the upload in code |
| 19:52.34 | f00f- | pretty simple |
| 19:52.39 | f00f- | use a URL |
| 19:52.45 | f00f- | or HttpURLConnection orwhat have you |
| 19:52.56 | f00f- | supports PUT POST and friends iirc |
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| 20:06.50 | davidw | ok.... so... I guess .wav doesn't work? |
| 20:07.28 | f00f- | what codec? |
| 20:07.32 | f00f- | it should work |
| 20:08.52 | davidw | http://simplythebest.net/sounds/WAV/sound_effects_WAV/sound_effect_WAV_files/attention.wav |
| 20:10.33 | f00f- | $ wget -qO /dev/stdout http://simplythebest.net/sounds/WAV/sound_effects_WAV/sound_effect_WAV_files/attention.wav | file - |
| 20:10.36 | f00f- | /dev/stdin: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 8 bit, mono 12128 Hz |
| 20:10.43 | f00f- | looks pretty standard to me |
| 20:14.17 | davidw | weird |
| 20:24.49 | davidw | know offhand anything to turn a wav into an mp3 ? |
| 20:25.00 | jasta | turn it into an ogg, and use oggenc :) |
| 20:25.44 | davidw | do oggs work? |
| 20:25.50 | davidw | they're supposed to |
| 20:25.54 | jasta | yeah |
| 20:33.39 | f00f- | davidw: lame |
| 20:33.41 | f00f- | encoder |
| 20:33.42 | f00f- | does mp3's |
| 20:34.18 | f00f- | hahaha |
| 20:35.47 | jasta | Ogg is arguably better compressed and the tools to create it are easier to obtain and use, are more flexible, etc. |
| 20:36.08 | jasta | You should feel like a sane individual for using it, not like Stallman at all :) |
| 20:36.42 | f00f- | ogg has crap support |
| 20:36.50 | f00f- | if you want something good, use AAC-HE |
| 20:37.50 | jasta | f00f-: In this instance at least, Ogg is well suited for davidw's tasks. |
| 20:37.54 | jasta | I would say that's "good support". |
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| 20:38.24 | f00f- | true if this is the only app :D |
| 20:38.36 | f00f- | ok sushi time & |
| 20:38.39 | jasta | What other apps don't support Ogg that his files may encounter? |
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| 20:39.28 | jasta | The formats that should really piss people off are that poisoned shit Apple spreads everywhere. |
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| 20:42.56 | davidw | dammit...ogg file doesn't work:-/ |
| 20:43.39 | morrildl | davidw: is it crashing? |
| 20:43.44 | morrildl | or just not sounding right/ |
| 20:45.52 | davidw | MediaPlayer.create is not returning the right thing it seems |
| 20:48.41 | morrildl | davidw: what IS it returning? |
| 20:51.26 | davidw | looks like null |
| 20:51.55 | davidw | all this is in Hecl, so sometimes it's a little different than what you see in Java, but Hecl isn't the problem (I checked to be sure) |
| 20:52.18 | davidw | if I have res/raw/foo.ogg it doesn't work. foo.mp3 it does |
| 20:53.01 | morrildl | hmm |
| 20:53.14 | morrildl | does it work if you put the ogg on a web server and open it as a URI? |
| 20:54.59 | davidw | http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html <- with the code here? didn't with a .wav |
| 20:55.09 | jasta | davidw: have you created a small test case outside of Hecl to be certain? |
| 20:55.35 | davidw | jasta, more or less, yes |
| 20:55.59 | jasta | more or less? |
| 20:56.40 | davidw | well, it's easy to create Hecl commands that once called, are all Java |
| 20:57.07 | davidw | so you just put the Java code in that, and you're good, unless it's something with lots of callbacks or other tentacles |
| 20:57.27 | jasta | I was saying that so perhaps you could show us the source and post the ogg file you are using to test. |
| 20:57.52 | davidw | the page above has the code I'm using |
| 20:57.57 | davidw | I just copied it from there |
| 20:58.15 | davidw | although you have to also do prepareAsync in my very brief experience |
| 21:09.06 | davidw | No Activity found to handle Intent { action=android.intent.action.VIEW type=audio/* |
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| 21:11.52 | jasta | perhaps you are supposed to set the correct audio/* mime type? :) |
| 21:11.56 | jasta | as in, fill in * |
| 21:12.07 | davidw | http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html |
| 21:12.15 | davidw | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.23 | jasta | yes, well, perhaps you are still expected to? |
| 21:12.56 | davidw | my mime/types has application/ogg ... let's try that |
| 21:13.42 | davidw | nope |
| 21:13.48 | davidw | audio/ogg is a no go too |
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| 21:18.05 | jasta | Well I was just guessing. |
| 21:18.26 | jasta | Actually, that Google uses MIME types is going to be a huge problem moving forward. MIME types are known to be seriously deficient to identify media. |
| 21:19.33 | davidw | not a bad guess... but I think that page needs some work - either that or I'm screwing something up (always a distinct possibility) |
| 21:19.42 | morrildl | davidw: damnit |
| 21:19.49 | jasta | Modern media is compromised of a framing layer, and a set of streams corresponding to individual codecs. |
| 21:19.52 | morrildl | Media was supposed to be working in M5 :P |
| 21:20.08 | davidw | well, mp3's seem to be ok, and that's enough |
| 21:20.24 | morrildl | davidw: heh, not really :) |
| 21:20.27 | morrildl | maybe for you, for now :) |
| 21:21.01 | jasta | morrildl: You guys didn't test it? :P |
| 21:21.20 | morrildl | jasta: well, QA did, but apparently not the way davidw's using it |
| 21:21.39 | davidw | they obviously need Hecl, so they can whip out these scripts quick:-) |
| 21:21.42 | jasta | davidw's case seems to be as simple as it gets, although he isn't showing us the code so who knows |
| 21:21.54 | davidw | jasta, the code is the code on that page |
| 21:22.14 | jasta | if mediaplayer.create() fails to load from an ogg raw resource, then what DID you test? :) |
| 21:24.32 | jasta | that was to morrildl :) |
| 21:25.06 | jasta | this is gonna cause me a lot of problems next week if ogg playback doesnt work |
| 21:25.25 | davidw | could be that it's just from raw or something |
| 21:25.55 | davidw | and I won't exclude 100% that there isn't some very bizarre interaction going on with Hecl... but I don't think so |
| 21:26.09 | jasta | davidw: Can you post the ogg file you are using so we can be sure? |
| 21:26.10 | davidw | I did test the straight up Java code too |
| 21:26.20 | jasta | I will use it in my test. |
| 21:26.21 | davidw | http://www.dedasys.com/attention.ogg |
| 21:26.45 | jasta | and the original wav too just for good measure? |
| 21:29.17 | morrildl | davidw: yeah, bug it, and we will harass the media guys |
| 21:29.43 | davidw | ok |
| 21:29.53 | davidw | http://simplythebest.net/sounds/WAV/sound_effects_WAV/sound_effect_WAV_files/attention.wav |
| 21:36.27 | davidw | http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=424 |
| 21:37.18 | jasta | you're absolutely right... |
| 21:37.21 | jasta | stupid thing returns null |
| 21:38.39 | davidw | the .wav file actually plays, but it's distorted |
| 21:39.19 | jasta | This is not good. |
| 21:39.33 | jasta | how the hell could QA miss this? |
| 21:41.30 | jasta | it also hangs for a really long time if you ask it to create from a large resource (3 or 4MB) |
| 21:41.39 | jasta | then finally returns null |
| 21:43.01 | davidw | how about if you use prepareAsync()? |
| 21:43.14 | jasta | doesnt matter since MediaPlayer.create returns null |
| 21:43.26 | davidw | try with the .wav |
| 21:43.33 | davidw | that doesn't return null, it just mangles it |
| 21:43.40 | jasta | It's enough for me to say it is seriously broken if it returns null on an ogg file. |
| 21:45.37 | jasta | i just added a comment to your issue confirming the bug independently |
| 21:46.02 | jasta | that is seriously frustrating. i will require ogg playback for my adc project submission! |
| 21:46.42 | jasta | i'm gonna test with a raw file on disk... |
| 21:46.47 | jasta | just to make sure it's not some goofy resource bug |
| 21:46.59 | davidw | good test to do |
| 21:50.11 | jasta | works. |
| 21:50.14 | jasta | phew! |
| 21:50.41 | davidw | so it's a goofy resource bug |
| 21:53.43 | jasta | must be. |
| 21:53.59 | davidw | would be useful to add that to the bug |
| 21:54.04 | jasta | didn't test the wav though, but i suspect it will work as well. |
| 21:54.11 | jasta | yeah, i'll update my comment |
| 21:56.13 | jasta | there |
| 21:58.11 | davidw | morrildl, the ball is in your court now:-) |
| 22:00.02 | f00f- | mp3's work, no? :P |
| 22:00.07 | davidw | yep |
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| 22:05.42 | davidw | ok...there we go |
| 22:08.12 | davidw | this is kind of cool.... I can control the phone from a web page, via xmpp |
| 22:21.54 | jasta | davidw: i haven't quite figured out how to send messages to a device from a desktop xmpp client? |
| 22:22.04 | jasta | though i didnt try hard. |
| 22:22.12 | jasta | is this something you are doing? |
| 22:22.18 | f00f- | add it as a contact and send a text message... |
| 22:22.20 | davidw | I'm not sending data messages |
| 22:22.36 | jasta | f00f-: Hmm, I tried that, something was not working... |
| 22:22.48 | jasta | i dont remember what, something about a JID precense ID or something? I don't know, I'll look at it later. |
| 22:22.50 | davidw | I create a conversation /chat /whatever on the phone side....which isn't ideal |
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| 22:45.26 | duey | lol at the topic |
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| 23:22.10 | jasta | damnit, i wish had my ADC project to use on a real phone :) |
| 23:26.02 | jasta | I'd love to listen to this new album on my drive home, but I dont have it at work :) |
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| 23:28.10 | jasta | i've been doing mobile speed tests at various places using my 3G AT&T phone to try to measure how sensible it is to download mp3 and ogg files OTA for playback on the phone |
| 23:28.24 | jasta | the typical result is over 400kbps :) |
| 23:29.10 | jasta | more than adequate to download a 128-192kbit song. |
| 23:29.29 | jasta | the lowest score i got was 277kbps, actually. |
| 23:29.36 | jasta | err, speed* |
| 23:34.10 | jasta | Android's UMTS/3G simulation is rated at 1.9mbps down and 128kbps up, which seems well outside typical for my tests |
| 23:34.35 | jasta | i think i'll just test with EDGE, which they have at 236kbps down |
| 23:36.16 | zhobbs | what would be a good way to have a listview, then when you select an item it animates to another listview (like an ipod)? |
| 23:37.05 | zhobbs | 2 listviews in a ViewAnimator? ListView + ImageView and set imageview to a cap of the view and prepopute new listview behind? |
| 23:38.22 | jasta | you should have it animate to a different activity |
| 23:38.45 | zhobbs | ahh, didn't know that was available yet |
| 23:38.47 | jasta | don't arbitrarily constrain your application into a series of top-level views when it can be split into distinct activities |
| 23:39.26 | jasta | zhobbs: Why wouldn't it be? |
| 23:39.36 | jasta | they clearly use it to transition between activity's all over the place. |
| 23:39.54 | zhobbs | jasta: didn't know you could specify the actual animation |
| 23:41.25 | jasta | Actually I may be wrong. See: |
| 23:41.28 | jasta | http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/06d54e3438d40609/e86997f1b13810f2?#e86997f1b13810f2 |
| 23:41.37 | zhobbs | yeah, I know you couldn't do it in m3 |
| 23:41.37 | jasta | hackbod suggests using an ActivityGroup for this |
| 23:43.26 | f00f- | f00f-: reminder to self, look up ActivityGroup |
| 23:43.28 | zhobbs | I haven't used activity group yet |
| 23:44.12 | jasta | zhobbs: This seems really stupid to me though. Why would they design it this way? |
| 23:45.14 | zhobbs | I don't even see how you use it |
| 23:45.56 | zhobbs | Ahh, looks like you use LocalActivityManager |
| 23:47.04 | jasta | zhobbs: if you figure this out, let me know. i'd be interested in a sample. |
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| 23:48.35 | zhobbs | ok, I'll probably look into it more tomorrow |
| 23:50.05 | jasta | i really hope they address this though. this will cripple their goal of having interchangable components in existing applications |
| 23:50.19 | jasta | since many apps will choose to just have one managed screen like that. |
| 23:50.47 | zhobbs | sounds like eventually the enter animation will just be defined in the manifest |
| 23:51.27 | zhobbs | but it would be nice to be able to specify in startActivity, or in the intent |
| 23:51.51 | jasta | agreed, the program starting the activity should be able to control. |
