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03:31.53Garettis there a simple way to determine a user's XMPP username?
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03:54.39Garettis there a unique identifier that can be used to identify a phone?
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05:05.06Garettanyone here familiar with the xmpp functionality?
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05:44.40nsfxany google employees present?
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08:07.05romainguynsfx: yes?
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23:11.25Garettdoes anybody know of any sort of identifier can be used to uniquely identify a user or phone?
23:23.45meusGarett: well you always got IMEI, but that follows the phone not the user.
23:24.36meusnot sure if every type of  phone has it either. wikipedia says it is GSM and UMTS.
23:25.35Garetthmm
23:25.42Garettwhat about a unique application id?
23:26.34Garetti see you can do a getUniqueId as seen here: http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/database/sqlite/SQLiteProgram.html
23:26.50Garettbut woudl that be unique for the application, but common for all instances of that application?
23:27.03Garettit would be ok if it was always different for every instance of an app
23:31.17meushmm, it could mean both I guess
23:31.17Garettdoesn't look like we have access to information on the SIM
23:31.27Garettso the IMEI idea is out
23:31.46Stephmwgenerally the IMEI is exposed in other ways
23:31.56Stephmwin J2ME it's via system properties
23:32.03Garetthmm
23:32.20Stephmwthe emulator probably doesn't have anything like that atm
23:32.59Garettthe bets way to identify a user i guess is by their XMPP username, but that is only available if they specify it... it doesn't help for users who havent' set that up yet
23:33.46Garettit would be really nice to identify them too if possible
23:33.51Stephmwgonna have to wait for dna scanning ;)
23:33.56Garettheh
23:34.53Stephmwdo you have a basis for thinking that the phone's user will change?
23:35.45Garettya... that's definitely a possiblity -- and that's hwy the XMPP thing is the best solution
23:35.59davidwanything like what?
23:36.06Garettand an IMEI thing would work well too in those situations
23:36.16Garettbecause that's on the SIM card that usually follows the owner
23:36.30davidwisn't it a phone thing, not a sim thing?
23:36.46Garetti thought it was stored on the sim?
23:36.47davidwso that they can still talk to the phone even if it gets stolen/the sim swapped out
23:37.04Garetthmm
23:37.19Garetti guess i should do some more research
23:38.38Garettcan we get the users phone number?
23:39.12Stephmwthat's a network service
23:39.15Stephmwso... sometimes
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23:40.25davidwset number [sysprops get [telprops -field PROPERTY_LINE1_NUMBER]]
23:40.42davidwsleep time
23:41.53Garettok.. this might work ok for users who haven't set up their
23:41.56Garettxmpp address
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