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| 00:31.19 | jasta | i really hope the default padding for buttons is bigger in the next SDK. |
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| 00:38.37 | romainguy__ | jasta: why? |
| 00:44.56 | jasta | because i hate it. |
| 00:44.56 | jasta | :) |
| 00:45.24 | jasta | the buttons are always long and thing looking, because the default top/bottom padding is too low. |
| 00:45.32 | jasta | look long and thin* |
| 00:45.43 | skicson | jasta:so do your own 9 patch button |
| 00:45.54 | skicson | pretty easy to do with GIMP |
| 00:46.02 | jasta | they look that way because they are that way, so the default should change so applications don't look so ugly. |
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| 04:22.34 | michaelnovakjr | yawn |
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| 04:52.17 | jerkface03 | Is there anyway to draw on the Canvas of a specific view without having onDraw called first? is there a way to grab a permenant Canvas object for that view nad use it whenever you need to draw to that canvas? |
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| 05:47.35 | jasta | jerkface03: how would that work? what if the view disappeared? |
| 05:48.01 | jerkface03 | Canvas would draw to nowhere |
| 05:48.10 | jerkface03 | anyways forget about that. how about this one |
| 05:48.20 | jasta | that is not how the drawing mechanism works, certainly. |
| 05:48.32 | jerkface03 | ui inputs/events are all handled by one thread, correct? |
| 05:48.42 | jasta | yes. |
| 05:49.37 | jerkface03 | so i don't need to synch between onDraw and onKeyDown and stuff like that? |
| 05:50.27 | jasta | sync what? |
| 05:52.19 | jerkface03 | synchronize |
| 05:52.22 | jerkface03 | critical sections |
| 05:52.28 | jerkface03 | you know what im talking about |
| 05:52.37 | jasta | No, there is no need to worry about concurrency in the UI thread. |
| 05:52.45 | jerkface03 | awesome |
| 05:52.45 | jerkface03 | k |
| 05:52.46 | jerkface03 | ty |
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| 06:28.11 | romainguy____ | re |
| 06:28.22 | romainguy____ | jerkface03: jyes you can |
| 06:28.32 | romainguy____ | jerkface03: you can create a Canvas from a Bitmap |
| 06:29.10 | jerkface03 | right, and then i would just dump that bitmap to a view at will? |
| 06:29.21 | jerkface03 | and in essence that would be double buffering? |
| 06:29.41 | jerkface03 | or do the canvas objects passed to onDraw() already have a double buffering mechanism? |
| 06:29.41 | romainguy____ | yep |
| 06:30.12 | romainguy____ | there's a double buffer at the surface level |
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| 06:31.13 | romainguy____ | and the next SDK will also provide new mechanisms to cache views in bitmaps |
| 06:32.49 | jerkface03 | not too sure i follow. the next SDK will give you the direct reference to the bitmap object assigned to the view? |
| 06:32.56 | romainguy | no |
| 06:33.27 | romainguy____ | you'll see :) |
| 06:34.30 | jerkface03 | hrm k. im just thinking of the best way to do a game loop under the android architecture. i might just end up copying the lunarlander base :X |
| 06:36.59 | romainguy____ | jerkface03: Lunar Lander has a speed issue though |
| 06:37.06 | romainguy____ | the background is scaled on each draw |
| 06:39.04 | jerkface03 | aye. doesn't seem so slow to me. but i'll make sure to avoid any scaling when i strip it down and refactor it. |
| 06:39.32 | jerkface03 | i just need some sort of a base to begin with |
| 06:41.50 | jasta | romainguy____: btw, i think you guys have been doing really great work so far. i'm very pleased with how this platform is progressing. |
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| 09:08.32 | jasta | hmm, 1am, time for bed. |
| 09:10.14 | supermario | mornin |
| 09:11.12 | jasta | don't encourage me ;) |
| 09:12.27 | supermario | :) |
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| 11:56.34 | mike1o | creating a content provider is fun! |
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| 15:59.50 | romainguy | jasta: thanks, I appreciate |
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| 16:37.08 | zhobbs | hmm, guess it doesn't work if inheriting a theme... |
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| 17:28.01 | Lede | good evening |
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| 19:38.27 | davidw | I wish it were possible to catch outgoing calls:-/ |
| 19:40.00 | Stephmw | regretting that prank call to 999? |
| 19:40.39 | winksaville | Not sure I want my phone tracking everything I do |
| 19:41.28 | winksaville | on the other hand the your cell phone provider already is, so maybe we just get use to having Big Brother watching our ever move |
| 19:42.54 | winksaville | whoops, "every move" and call and ... |
| 19:50.36 | davidw | Stephmw, what's 999? |
| 19:50.59 | Stephmw | davidw: emergency number in the UK... 911 in the US, 112 worldwide |
| 19:51.02 | davidw | ah ok |
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| 20:22.22 | frb-work | greetings and salutation |
| 20:22.24 | frb-work | s |
| 20:22.51 | frb-work | I'm trying to find more info on how power management works on android, the only APIs I've found are for the location, and for setting WakeLocks |
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| 20:38.23 | kristian-m | Stephmw isn't it 0118 999 881 999 119 7253? ;-) |
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| 21:36.00 | michaelnovakjr | howdy |
| 21:36.32 | zhobbs | hello |
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| 21:37.34 | michaelnovakjr | how's it going on the challenge |
| 21:37.57 | zhobbs | It's going |
| 21:38.11 | zhobbs | having a hard time horizontally centering a view inside a scrollview |
| 21:38.35 | duey | http://www.oleswanson.com/images/office/procrastination.jpg |
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| 21:39.18 | zhobbs | exactly |
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| 21:39.30 | zhobbs | just what I'm thinking |
| 21:39.54 | davidw | hehehe |
| 21:41.21 | zhobbs | I love those |
| 21:43.16 | zhobbs | http://despair.com/burnout.html |
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| 22:53.50 | romainguy_ | hi |
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