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| 00:12.45 | brailsmt | i would really like to get menu rewritten and working with cairo tonight |
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| 00:15.26 | hyriand | cairo rocks.. |
| 00:18.13 | brailsmt | yeah, but this xwidget programming stuff is new to me :) |
| 00:18.46 | hyriand | hmm.. have you read my chat with mackstann? |
| 00:19.22 | brailsmt | the one just a few hours ago? |
| 00:19.33 | hyriand | yeah |
| 00:19.53 | brailsmt | yeah |
| 00:20.13 | hyriand | if you're willing to accept the fact that the code is all LGPL, I could send you what I have |
| 00:20.14 | brailsmt | my problem is that when you map a window the first time you have to ignore to Expose events... |
| 00:20.27 | brailsmt | LGPL is fine |
| 00:20.42 | brailsmt | so long as that means that we can modify it and keep in a GPL project... |
| 00:20.50 | brailsmt | which is the whole point of LGPL, iirc |
| 00:20.53 | hyriand | I.. think so |
| 00:21.12 | hyriand | I might switch to GPL + linking exception |
| 00:21.19 | hyriand | which would be fine as well |
| 00:21.33 | brailsmt | i am pretty sure that lgpl removes the 'viral' condition of the gpl |
| 00:21.48 | brailsmt | or something to that effect at least |
| 00:22.01 | brailsmt | aegis is gpl, anyway, so it doesn't matter :) |
| 00:22.44 | hyriand | ok.. I'm too drunk to do anything useful now.. I'll tar it up tomorrow, ok? |
| 00:22.50 | pmazer | mackstann: im really liking mpd/mpc, thanks! |
| 00:23.54 | brailsmt | hyriand: yeah, thats great |
| 00:23.57 | pmazer | whats the difference between lgpl and gpl? |
| 00:24.13 | brailsmt | one of the downsides of new things like cairo, is the utter lack of documentation |
| 00:24.14 | hyriand | the viral factor |
| 00:24.21 | hyriand | brailsmt: hell yeah |
| 00:25.51 | brailsmt | wtf are all these BadMatch errors i keep getting? |
| 00:36.24 | pmazer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.25 | pmazer | bash: /etc/conf.d/setiathome: Permission denied |
| 00:36.30 | pmazer | peice of crap... |
| 00:38.30 | brailsmt | i bet they renamed if setialittletoclosetoathome |
| 00:40.50 | pmazer | haha |
| 00:41.26 | pmazer | and my cpu immediately goes down 98% :-P |
| 02:02.28 | brailsmt | i never thought I would be thankful for the day when I would ramen noodle soup and be so content as i am now... |
| 02:02.34 | brailsmt | being sick sucks |
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| 02:43.47 | brailsmt | my wife just bought me a Tom Petty CD :) |
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| 02:47.22 | pmazer | nice |
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| 02:49.32 | mastergoon | bleh |
| 02:49.36 | mastergoon | reformatting main comp |
| 02:49.45 | mastergoon | glibc went kabloowey |
| 02:50.24 | brailsmt | that sucks |
| 02:54.39 | mastergoon | heh oh well |
| 02:54.46 | mastergoon | hadnt formatted in a long time |
| 02:54.48 | mastergoon | over a year |
| 02:54.54 | mastergoon | using distcc to bootstrap right now |
| 02:54.59 | mastergoon | shouldnt take _too_ long |
| 02:55.40 | mastergoon | just glad i managed to back up all my mp3s :D |
| 02:58.29 | whatah | NPTL? |
| 02:58.55 | mastergoon | yep this time |
| 02:58.58 | whatah | heh |
| 02:59.01 | mastergoon | going ~x86 |
| 02:59.03 | whatah | did you notice a difference? |
| 02:59.05 | mastergoon | more fun that way |
| 02:59.10 | whatah | other than the frying of glibc? |
| 02:59.12 | mastergoon | um this box uses nptl |
| 02:59.15 | mastergoon | other one still compiling |
| 02:59.18 | mastergoon | no problem with it |
| 02:59.21 | mastergoon | but no major advantages |
| 02:59.23 | whatah | does it run faster? |
| 02:59.24 | whatah | smoother? |
| 02:59.25 | mastergoon | thought ps aux looks nicer |
| 02:59.26 | whatah | oh, ok |
| 02:59.28 | whatah | shit |
| 02:59.29 | mastergoon | i cant really tell |
| 02:59.31 | whatah | how so? |
| 02:59.35 | whatah | with ps |
| 02:59.40 | mastergoon | because all threads show as one process with nptl |
| 02:59.43 | whatah | nice |
| 02:59.47 | mastergoon | so you dont get 50 java_vm procs lol |
| 02:59.56 | whatah | i wrote a bash script to go through ps aux |
| 03:00.01 | whatah | and get memory usage |
| 03:00.03 | whatah | let me show |
| 03:00.05 | mastergoon | heh, cool |
| 03:00.15 | mastergoon | hmm, wondering if i set up distcc right |
| 03:00.18 | mastergoon | its never tried using it yet |
| 03:00.20 | mastergoon | :/ |
| 03:00.34 | mastergoon | manual says most bootstrap packages ignore it tho |
| 03:00.52 | whatah | http://rafb.net/paste/results/jucqj144.html |
| 03:01.12 | whatah | it works reasonably well |
| 03:01.29 | whatah | there are problems, where it reports memory usage twice.. i.e. where the process has multiple threads that are split up |
| 03:01.34 | whatah | i should have it sort |
| 03:01.37 | mastergoon | right |
| 03:01.42 | mastergoon | nptl can solve that problem tho |
| 03:01.44 | whatah | oh, wait, i do have it sory |
| 03:01.45 | whatah | sort* |
| 03:01.54 | whatah | i am really stupid sometimes |
| 03:01.57 | whatah | ok, try out my script |
| 03:02.05 | whatah | i do it like this to get total memusage: memusage . |
| 03:02.11 | whatah | and it returns a number very close to free -m |
| 03:02.11 | mastergoon | k 1 sec |
| 03:02.19 | mastergoon | im in a screwy wm situation |
| 03:02.24 | whatah | hehe, nice |
| 03:02.24 | mastergoon | gotta leave X and open some more terms lol brb |
| 03:02.50 | whatah | oooh, ok |
| 03:03.26 | mastergoon | i got a ton of errors |
| 03:03.31 | whatah | oooh? |
| 03:03.33 | whatah | what type? |
| 03:03.34 | mastergoon | because i dont have a /proc/status |
| 03:03.37 | whatah | oh |
| 03:03.38 | whatah | bastard |
| 03:05.11 | mastergoon | ohh, DUH |
| 03:05.32 | mastergoon | distcc is useless because im compiling with -march=pentium4 and the other machine is an athlon-xp, right |
| 03:05.33 | mastergoon | lol |
| 03:05.37 | whatah | hehe |
| 03:05.38 | whatah | nice |
| 03:05.50 | mastergoon | so much for that plan :p |
| 03:06.52 | whatah | hahaha |
| 03:06.55 | whatah | mingw? |
| 03:07.14 | whatah | http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/~nzohar1/screenshots/cgi-girl.png <--- me desktop |
| 03:07.20 | whatah | it is kicking ass with the pink |
| 03:09.52 | mastergoon | nice |
| 03:09.58 | mastergoon | mm gcc compiles |
| 03:10.25 | whatah | god fucking damnit |
| 03:10.38 | whatah | trying to get japanese input through im-ja, but it segfaults on configure |
| 03:10.41 | whatah | stupid gconf |
| 03:10.54 | whatah | fucking windows registry all over again, whoever the fuck decided to implement gconf should be shot |
| 03:12.34 | pmazer | whatah: what wm is that? |
| 03:13.38 | whatah | kahakai |
| 03:13.42 | whatah | :-D |
| 03:13.49 | pmazer | heh, my desktop's not cluttered enough for a decent screenshot |
| 03:14.10 | whatah | oh, that was an uncluttered screenshot, i started using multi-aterm despite it's lil bugs |
| 03:14.19 | mastergoon | im in waimea and i dont have a menu and etc lol |
| 03:14.21 | whatah | i normally have 4 - 5 open terminals, mail client, and other crap |
| 03:14.29 | whatah | ew, mastergoon, switch out! switch out! mayday! |
| 03:14.40 | whatah | ok, i am going to read, had enough computer aggravation with im-ja for a day |
| 03:14.43 | pmazer | mastergoon: you don't have a menu... how do you function? lol |
| 03:14.46 | mastergoon | i usually use kahakai |
| 03:14.51 | whatah | pmazer: no one uses menus |
| 03:14.54 | mastergoon | pmazer, i keep dropping out of X to open more terms |
| 03:14.56 | whatah | pmazer: all in the terminal |
| 03:15.22 | pmazer | whatah: ehh, i don't like having terms open where things like firefox are |
| 03:15.49 | mastergoon | i usually have 2 things in my menu |
| 03:15.49 | pmazer | im quite happy with my menu setup right now |
| 03:15.51 | mastergoon | aterm |
| 03:15.52 | mastergoon | and gmrun |
| 03:16.03 | mastergoon | or i just set hotkeys to open those |
| 03:17.09 | pmazer | ehh, i only use 3 nonterminal apps on a normal basis, and those just stay open.. gaim, firefox, and thunderbird |
| 03:17.39 | pmazer | thunderbird because im too lazy to learn a terminal based e-mail app |
| 03:18.07 | mastergoon | i use big bulky evolution |
| 03:18.09 | mastergoon | lol |
| 03:18.41 | mastergoon | so hard to type on this computer |
| 03:18.51 | mastergoon | im used to my ms natural keyboard on the other box |
| 03:18.55 | pmazer | ouch.. i used to use evolution until i realized thunderbird did all the things i wanted without the bloat |
| 03:19.06 | mastergoon | ive never tried thunderbird |
| 03:19.13 | mastergoon | ill give it a go when i finish installing the system i guess |
| 03:19.23 | mastergoon | i dont really feel like installing half of gnome anyhow |
| 03:19.28 | pmazer | if you just use the mail and newsgroups features on evolution, thunderbird is better |
| 03:19.39 | mastergoon | just the mail even lol |
| 03:19.48 | mastergoon | thunderbird have good vfolder thingers? |
| 03:19.55 | pmazer | vfolder? |
| 03:19.59 | mastergoon | i use imap so i dont want to actually move the messages |
| 03:20.00 | mastergoon | just sort them |
| 03:21.11 | pmazer | i dunno, never used imap.. |
| 03:21.14 | pmazer | i know thunderbird supports imap, though |
| 03:21.40 | mastergoon | ill check it out anyhow |
| 03:21.50 | mastergoon | do you use a smtp server or sendmail? |
| 03:23.28 | pmazer | haha, i just use my isp's smtp server |
| 03:23.33 | mastergoon | ah |
| 03:23.38 | mastergoon | i dont have an smtp server |
| 03:23.45 | mastergoon | i think i tried thunderbird at like 0.3 |
| 03:23.47 | pmazer | i don't get fancy with email |
| 03:23.50 | mastergoon | and it didnt support sendmail |
| 03:23.52 | mastergoon | maybe does now |
| 03:25.41 | pmazer | i think from what i see on account setup it only supports smtp |
| 03:25.51 | mastergoon | ah :/ |
| 03:26.09 | mastergoon | i guess i can setup an smtp server lol |
| 03:26.50 | pmazer | alright, im off to bed, g'night |
| 03:26.57 | mastergoon | cya |
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| 04:19.47 | StuLTissimus | v_v |
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