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04:14.18LizzyLouhi y'all. am i in the AHK forum?
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05:47.09DegreesAwesomeHi
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06:55.27PooperScooper'ello gents I'd like to request an unban
06:55.43PooperScooperI foolishly requested a 30-day ban yesterday and shit's sorted itself out now
06:55.47PooperScooperand I miss 420chan
06:56.31PooperScooper<PROTECTED>
07:02.27PooperScooper^ that was my original post
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07:43.26IrcDroidClienthi
07:43.49DegreesAwesomeHi
07:44.12IrcDroidClienti am looking for a girl
07:45.23DegreesAwesomeLol
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07:55.57neramarea'giorno a tutti; all'avvio ho sempre la modalità aeroplano attiva, di conseguenza devo andare di volta in volta a disattivarla per poter connettere il wifi... come risolvo?
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08:29.14Guest78734LOL
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10:01.42jeredeppanyone here with some experience with transatlantic connection speed?
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10:17.04xiaoshenhi all :)
10:17.10xiaosheni need help XD
10:17.23xiaosheni run ktpass in windows server 2008
10:17.28xiaoshenbut i got an error
10:18.06xiaoshenhttp://pastebin.com/rzEwEvtZ
10:18.27xiaoshenanyone please kindly help XD
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11:48.37xperiacould anyone here help me with a problem on my xperia v?
11:51.10Zhaofeng_Lixperia, ...
11:51.45Zhaofeng_Lixperia, software problems? try #android
11:52.09xperianot really software problems
11:52.21xperiathe screen doesnt show an image, but the touchscreen works
11:52.31xperiai need to know where to press to turn off the phone
11:52.53xperiabecause i cant see where i am touching
11:52.56Zhaofeng_Lixperia, the fastest way - take out the battery
11:53.12xperiawhen i reinsert it, it reboots
11:53.35Zhaofeng_Lixperia, are you sure it isn't a software problem?
11:54.00xperiapretty sure. dropped it onto the ground
11:54.40Zhaofeng_Lixperia, then I'm afraid I can't help you...
11:54.51xperiai need to get it into recovery so that i can relock the bootloader before handing it into service where i bought it
11:55.16xperiaok
11:55.18Zhaofeng_Lixperia, Home+Volume Up+Power?
11:55.19xperiathanks anyways
11:55.33Zhaofeng_Lixperia, np
11:55.41xperiayes, it's just that i cant turn it off :P
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13:17.53rosevaanhello
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15:23.57TheRealAdrianahello?
15:24.05rosevaanhello
15:24.12TheRealAdrianai need help with something
15:24.18rosevaanwhat's wrong?
15:24.42TheRealAdrianai have symtoms of aspergers...so im not really confident when it comes to socializing. but i am confident a bit as far as my looks go
15:24.48TheRealAdrianano trying to sound conceited
15:24.55TheRealAdrianabut i've learned to like my features
15:24.59TheRealAdrianaphysical ones
15:25.12rosevaanThat's good. It's very nice to like your own avatar.
15:25.12TheRealAdrianabut anyway, i have a sweet sixteen to go to this summ
15:25.15TheRealAdrianasummer
15:25.47TheRealAdrianaand the only people i know is my husband, my mother and father in law, and my sister in law (the one who is turning 16)
15:26.04rosevaanAlright
15:26.09TheRealAdrianait will be like in a hall. and i need help. i dont know how im supposed to act while im there
15:26.16TheRealAdrianai tend to have a serious face a lot
15:26.25TheRealAdrianaand i dont like dancing in front of people
15:26.33rosevaanMe too. I keep being told to smile. Which in turn makes me slightly homicidal.
15:26.52TheRealAdrianaso that means im basically going to be sitting the whole time...what if his family members want to greet me
15:27.00TheRealAdrianaim concerned i might act too weird
15:27.27rosevaanIt's hard, I may not the best person to give you advice because I basically have the same problem.
15:27.28TheRealAdrianawhat if they ask me to dance?
15:27.34TheRealAdrianai really dont want to
15:27.41TheRealAdrianaand i dont want to be the only party pooper
15:28.02rosevaanBut it tends to work to just be quiet-polite, smile and discreetly observe your surroundings.
15:28.28TheRealAdrianai tend to have a drousy look...and i daydream a lot too when i dont know what to do
15:28.34TheRealAdrianaor what to say
15:28.40TheRealAdrianai dont want to appear bored
15:28.40rosevaanI find though that I become a bit of an imitator, which has some use at times. I observe for a little bit and then I begin acting a bit like the other people. It makes me blend in somewhat.
15:29.12TheRealAdrianaand the only person im really going to be conversating with is either my husband or my father in law
15:29.16rosevaanI know what you mean. I do appear bored a lot in those situations. Especially if it drags for longer than I have energy for appearances.
15:29.24TheRealAdrianaeveryone else will just be a quick hi how are you doing
15:29.44rosevaanDo you feel like you can trust your husband to not leave you alone? You can just go around with him.
15:30.10rosevaanAlso, generally in most of these things, people do that, just quick hi and smile and that's their whole interaction. It's not just you.
15:30.11TheRealAdrianaim afraid someone will call me over and tell my husband to not come or something
15:30.18TheRealAdrianalike tell him "oh dont worry, just sit"
15:30.39TheRealAdrianaor what if someone says, "ok picture only for all the ladies" and my husband cant be by my side
15:31.06rosevaanJust remember that if the worst comes and you're very quiet and reserved during the party, it's not the worst thing ever.
15:31.14TheRealAdrianaand i have to stand next to someone i dont really know for a picture
15:31.30rosevaanSounds like you have some social anxiety.
15:31.32TheRealAdrianaand then what if they all start dancing after the picture and im left there all awkward
15:31.35TheRealAdrianaand tell me to dance
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15:32.00rosevaanYeah, I am not sure what to do about the dancing part either.
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15:32.39TheRealAdrianaplus i really dont like loud music
15:32.40rosevaanHave you talked to your husband about these fears?
15:32.55TheRealAdrianaexpecially if it's katy perry, britney spears, techno type music
15:33.03rosevaanWell you definitely won't be in your element, but for the sake of your sister in law, sometimes we have to do these things.
15:33.03TheRealAdrianaand thats most likely what will be blasting
15:33.31TheRealAdrianamy husband is aware that i am socially awkward
15:33.37TheRealAdrianahe is too, except he is NT
15:33.49TheRealAdrianaand can pull off things with people really well
15:33.52rosevaanYeah but does he know the full extent of your fears related to this specific situation?
15:33.56TheRealAdrianabecause he can actually make eye contact
15:34.01rosevaanWhat ar eyou?
15:34.02TheRealAdrianabut he doesnt dance
15:34.05TheRealAdrianaim not NT
15:34.26TheRealAdrianai have symptoms of aspergers since i was a baby
15:34.29rosevaanAsk him how he manages to decline dancing?
15:34.42rosevaanIf he manages to say no to that, you may get a few tips on how to do it yourself.
15:34.49rosevaanIn general, I think your best bet is to discuss this with him.
15:34.50TheRealAdrianahe'll probably tell me to say "no thank you"
15:35.32TheRealAdrianayeah i'll talk to him about it..but this whole situation kept me up so far for like 2 days
15:35.46rosevaanTell him that too. Tell him the full extent of it.
15:35.46TheRealAdrianaonly had like 2 hours of sleep the night before
15:35.51TheRealAdrianaand today only had like an hour sleep
15:36.06TheRealAdrianamy body feels tired but i cant sleep cause i have so much running in my mind
15:36.06rosevaanEven for people with social anxiety (I have it), it's not that bad for me so I may not understand precisely how bad it is unless you tell me. Same with him.
15:36.31TheRealAdrianai've tried breathing in and out, listening to calm noises..white noises to help me sleep, took a warm shower..and still cant sleep
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15:37.14rosevaanIt may be hard to rest until the issue is solved.
15:37.26TheRealAdrianamy biggest problem is thinking about what to say when asked a question im not prepared for
15:37.55rosevaanThose things are aquired with practice I think. The more you do it the more you know how to do it. But you haven't had much practice.
15:38.01TheRealAdrianaand also, i have an awkward way of keeping myself together..especially with my hands
15:38.04TheRealAdrianathey look stiff
15:38.15TheRealAdrianaand i dont know what to do with them
15:38.18TheRealAdrianaor where to put them
15:38.37TheRealAdrianai usually have them crossed, but that makes me look mad or cold
15:38.51TheRealAdrianaand when they are on my sides, they look stiff and unnatural
15:38.54rosevaanYeah, you're overly aware of your own movements and reactions, and the more you do that, the more distracted you get by them and the less natural they become.
15:39.03rosevaanIt goes on a cycle I'm well familiar with.
15:39.25TheRealAdrianayeah im aware of my every movement
15:39.41rosevaanI only realize I act natural when I forget about it and don't care. But then, getting to the point where you don't care, that's the issue.
15:39.42TheRealAdrianabecause it has been brought up to me even by a group therapist i went to in high school
15:39.51rosevaanIt's like you can't will yourself not to care. I don't know how it happens when it happens.
15:39.53TheRealAdrianashe said i have some extreme hand movements when i speak
15:39.58TheRealAdrianaand so that made me aware of it
15:40.20TheRealAdrianaand plus i tend to stim in social situations..so i have to be aware that i dont do it
15:40.28TheRealAdrianawhich makes me even more stiff
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15:40.48rosevaanYou know, it's possible that you may come off as weird to people who are not used to you. But it doesn't mean there's something wrong with you.
15:41.41rosevaanPeople in general don't understand aspergers or any behavioural differences. Anything that comes out of the ordinary, it disturbs their world. They are for the most part not malicious though.
15:42.10TheRealAdrianayeah
15:42.18TheRealAdrianai wish more people would understand aspergers
15:42.28TheRealAdrianabut i dont like telling people in real life
15:42.29rosevaanBut I think you definitely should seek support from your husband. Explicitly. He may know who you are but you guys need to talk about the current situation, the party specifically.
15:42.35TheRealAdrianabecause i dont like to get treated different
15:42.48TheRealAdrianaor like if im retarded
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15:43.21rosevaanI know. I don't know if I have aspergers so I say I don't because I think it's unfair to those who actually have aspergers. All I know is that I act weird and people have pointed it out.
15:43.31rosevaanI think I'm very smart but many times I've been treated like I was mentally challenged.
15:43.59rosevaanBecause of how I look when I talk and move.
15:44.11TheRealAdrianafor me, i just say i have the symptoms. i think my mom didnt want me diagnosed so that it wont be on the records and prevent me from entering a good college
15:44.31TheRealAdrianabut i have basically all the symtoms
15:44.32rosevaanOh wow I didn't know aspergers could prevent you from entering a good college.
15:44.41rosevaanThat's... awful.
15:44.46TheRealAdrianathe stimming (hand flapping specifically in private though)
15:44.52TheRealAdrianapoor eye contact
15:45.01TheRealAdrianapoor hand gestures and body posture
15:45.07TheRealAdrianadifficulty making friends
15:45.17TheRealAdrianagetting bullied badly in school
15:45.26TheRealAdrianarepetitive routines
15:45.32TheRealAdrianathe list just goes on and on
15:46.32rosevaanYeah, I think when those 'normal' things don't come to you naturally, eventually you can train yourself to do them when it's needed.
15:46.47TheRealAdrianaas far as health issues, it is common for aspies to have lots of allergies/intolerance to foods, low vitamin d levels, gut issues
15:46.52TheRealAdrianai have those problems
15:46.53rosevaanBut you got a husband, that's a good sign, you found someone you connected with and someone who understands you.
15:47.30TheRealAdrianayes and whats cool is that he is NT. his brother told him that when i speak, i say things the same way my husband says them
15:47.42TheRealAdrianaguess my brother in law caught up with my mimicking
15:48.03rosevaanYes, but it's not just us who do mimicking.  You'll find that he has probably adopted some of your traits too.
15:48.17rosevaanMy SO and I we have taken things from each other like that.
15:48.35rosevaanIt's only apparent when mutual friends and family point it out.
15:49.01TheRealAdrianahe probably does..like he pronounces some words like me that he used to not pronounce
15:49.17rosevaanYeah, it happens. I think it's nice. :D
15:49.25TheRealAdrianayea =]
15:50.04TheRealAdrianai think we connected too because he is a shy guy...like he's laid back..but can be really quiet around people he doesnt know
15:50.18TheRealAdrianabut he still knows how to speak up and all the social norms comes naturally to him
15:50.40rosevaanYeah, he may be shy and all but he doesn't have aspergers.
15:50.42TheRealAdrianawhat i like is that he looks past my symptoms..like he doesnt get bothered if i dont always make eye contact
15:50.51TheRealAdrianaor if im stiff
15:50.57TheRealAdrianaand moving akwardly
15:51.02TheRealAdrianahe doesnt get weirded out
15:51.08rosevaanThat's good, it means you don't have to act unnaturally for him.
15:51.12TheRealAdrianaor annoyed by my routines
15:51.44TheRealAdrianayea, and because of that i tend to act more relaxed around him, less stressed, and i'm able to speak properly
15:51.53TheRealAdrianaand think of what to say on the spot when he asks me things
15:52.08rosevaanExactly, you know he doesn't care, so you don't monitor yourself as much with him
15:52.29rosevaanAnd when you don't monitor yourself you relax more and end up acting more natural... naturally.
15:52.43TheRealAdrianaexactly
15:53.25TheRealAdrianabut around other people, since i want to make a good impression, i end up over thinking things, and thats when i start to act unnatural, or stutter on certain words when asked something
15:53.49TheRealAdrianait could be something simple like "how are you", if i am feeling uneasy i will stutter or blank out
15:53.59TheRealAdrianawhen answering that
15:54.02TheRealAdrianaquestion
15:54.29TheRealAdrianamy neighbor who i never really see or speak too asked me one day "how are you" and i stuttered
15:54.36TheRealAdrianaall i had to say was "im good, and you?"
15:54.52TheRealAdrianabut even when i say that, it sounds weird..maybe a bit fake and forced
15:55.04rosevaanYeah, I have been there myself.
15:55.30rosevaanLike, I coudln't even order something on the phone. I would dial and they'd say 'hello' and my mind would get blank.
15:55.38rosevaanAnd they got impatient.
15:55.47rosevaanAnd after a while of this happening, I learned to fear the phone.
15:55.55TheRealAdrianayou know what i do
15:56.03TheRealAdrianai write down what im going to say before i call
15:56.05rosevaanSo just now I got a call and I think I did okay but my heart is racing.
15:56.08TheRealAdrianaand then practice
15:56.18TheRealAdrianathen i call, and order and make appointments,, ect
15:56.26rosevaanYes, I did that with the orders. Now I always say the same words. It bores me but it works and people seem to think I'm normal.
15:56.33TheRealAdrianaand i try to read what  i wrote as natural as possible
15:56.43rosevaanI haven't been able to tackle appointments yet.
15:56.52TheRealAdrianawhich is a bit easy for me because the right facial expression is not neccessary
15:56.59TheRealAdriananeither is eye contact
15:57.03TheRealAdrianaor body posture
15:57.28rosevaanIt was a professor on the phone just now and he is always overly formal, so I learned to be formal with him. But right now he sounded warmer and even made a joke and it threw me off completely. So I stuttered again.
15:57.38TheRealAdrianathe worse is going to a resturant and having to order food face to face
15:57.57rosevaanI don't understand this about myself. But I fear the phone more than I fear face to face.
15:58.02TheRealAdrianaespecially because i have to go into detail about what not to put in my food due to my allergies
15:58.10rosevaanIt may have to do with having conditioned myself to fear the phone.
15:58.40rosevaanI fear both, but sometimes I end up going to the building myself instead of making a call. Which is... silly, to say the least.
15:59.10rosevaanAre your allergies that bad? Have they caused any serious consequences?
15:59.40TheRealAdrianai went to a restaurant with my mother and sister in law, and my husband...and i didnt know what my meal was called...never heard the word before and i wasnt sure of how to pronouce it, and i didnt want to ask and appear stupid to my mother and sister in law. so when i ordered, i just pointed to the waiter what i wanted and said what i wanted "yeah i want the chicken with sauted mushrooms, red peppers, and tomatoes"
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16:00.17TheRealAdrianabut then i had to explain to not put dressing in it because im allergic to eggs..he then gave me a weird look cause i guess he thought "um..you need some sort of dressing to cook the chicken"
16:00.18rosevaanAh that's okay though. It was a good strategy what you did by the way.
16:00.28TheRealAdrianaso then he started asking questions, and i got all stuttery
16:00.33rosevaanAww
16:00.49TheRealAdrianaim allergic to eggs
16:01.08rosevaanYes, it's hard with food allergies. I have allergies but they are rather mild. I get these skin rashes all over and also awful allergic rhynitis and asthma. They are mostly related to dust and humidity and not food (that I know of).
16:01.30rosevaanBut with food, eating out becomes problematic.
16:02.26TheRealAdrianayeah i have asthma too
16:02.29TheRealAdrianaand eczema
16:02.39TheRealAdrianaalso related to dust and humidity
16:02.45rosevaanI am not allergic but I don't like beans or lentils, and the university restaurant sometimes only offers one of these options. So when it's my turn I get very scared several minutes before, about what if they only have beans and lentils? how am I going to say to them not to give me that?
16:02.56rosevaanSo sometimes I just say nothing, get the lentils and give them to my friend.
16:03.15TheRealAdrianayeah
16:03.20TheRealAdrianasounds like something i would do
16:03.39rosevaanIt's just things that objectively are rather silly I think. But when you are in the moment, it's the only things we can do.
16:03.41TheRealAdrianaat the restaurant, they gave us bread with butter before they brought the dinner
16:03.51TheRealAdrianaand i was offered to put butter on my bread
16:04.32TheRealAdrianai really wanted to, but i refused because my motor skills are not so great, and i tend to struggle with simple things like spreading butter on bread, especially because i over think things in front of other people
16:04.55TheRealAdrianaif it was just my husband and i, i would have easily been able to spread the butter on the bread with no problem
16:05.06rosevaanah dang
16:05.07TheRealAdrianabut i didnt want to mess up, and have my mother and sister in law watch me
16:05.37rosevaanyeah
16:05.45rosevaanthen you end up without the butter because of it
16:05.53TheRealAdrianayea
16:07.00TheRealAdrianaso i just ate the bread without the butter, just in case i did something wrong, even when i went to grab the bread, i was trying to get one piece, but it was so hard to rip off. i thought it was going to be easy..so i just took like 3 pieces of bread. they were like stuck together
16:07.17TheRealAdrianabut it thought it was going to be easy to just rip a piece of bread
16:07.30TheRealAdrianabut it wasnt..so i ended up taking and eating more than i wanted to
16:07.49rosevaanyeah I've done thigns like that
16:08.13TheRealAdrianalike little things like that bother and embaress me in front of people
16:08.31TheRealAdrianaespecially because i was bullied a lot in school, i dont want to do or say things that may cause someone to laugh at me
16:08.50rosevaanyes, it makes you especially sensitive to it
16:08.55TheRealAdrianayeah
16:09.10rosevaanUnable to take the advice of 'just don't care about what people think!'.
16:09.25TheRealAdrianai know
16:09.28TheRealAdrianaits so hard
16:09.36TheRealAdrianawords can be powerful
16:09.38TheRealAdrianaand hurt
16:09.47rosevaanBecause it's tied to, I guess, mental mines that may go off and you don't want to suffer that.
16:10.23TheRealAdrianalike i dont mind if my husband laughs at silly things i do..because i know he still accepts me
16:10.29TheRealAdrianaand doesnt treat me like if im stupid
16:10.42TheRealAdrianabut when other people laugh at me for a quirk i do, i get sensitive
16:11.31rosevaanYes I know what you mean. And it still took a while. At first I took things the wrong way with my SO because I was too sensitive.
16:11.45rosevaanBut after a while I realized I was respected and liked. So now I can laugh too.
16:11.49rosevaanBut not with other people.
16:12.27rosevaanIn school people rarely took me seriously and they would laugh at me aswell. I was a good student so they only approached me if they needed something.
16:12.49TheRealAdrianayeah...what makes it harder for me is that i grew up in like an urban type but strictt hispanic culture. and my husbands family is from a more formal sort of laid back white culture
16:13.04TheRealAdrianaso its hard for me to relate to them
16:13.10rosevaanI ended up so paranoid that sometimes people are laughing in tiny groups and I'm all 'I bet they're laughing at me! They're laughing because I'm weird." But they are probably not even thinking of me.
16:13.36rosevaanStrict in what sense?
16:14.14TheRealAdrianalike strict like you dont tell jokes or are allowed to say whatever you want without getting yelled at
16:14.35rosevaanOh wow that's awful.
16:14.42TheRealAdrianalike my sister in law talks to her mom like this ":mom you are so stupid...stop mom...you're so annoying"
16:14.53TheRealAdrianaand her mom (my mother in law) just laughs
16:14.57rosevaanoh well that's kinda the opposite extreme
16:15.08rosevaanbut I think I get what you mean
16:15.18TheRealAdrianaif i were to say that to my mom, she will yell at me, and punish me if i were my sister in laws age
16:15.26rosevaanI grew up in a hispanic culture but they are relatively laid back.
16:15.57rosevaanI have never called my mom stupid though, but that's mainly because I don't do that. I think it's disrespectful, even as a joke.
16:16.08rosevaanBut we can laugh and mock each other in other ways.
16:16.44TheRealAdrianayeah..maybe its just my mom..she was a bit abusive
16:17.05TheRealAdrianalike she would always find a way and a reason to yell at me
16:17.09rosevaan:S
16:17.12TheRealAdrianaand she would call me stupid
16:17.16TheRealAdrianaas a young child
16:17.21TheRealAdrianaso that bothered me
16:17.29TheRealAdrianaand she wasnt understanding of my aspie symptoms
16:17.32rosevaanYeah I don't get that, you're not allowed to call her stupid, which would be fine except she does it to you.
16:17.44TheRealAdrianalike she knew i didnt like partys, but she will throw them anyway and not ask me how i feel
16:17.46rosevaanShe demands respect without giving it.
16:17.51TheRealAdrianashe even called me anti social
16:18.02TheRealAdrianafor staying in my room during a house party
16:18.22TheRealAdrianaexactly rosevaan
16:18.41rosevaanyeah, I get people not understanding aspergers but another thing is to go and call you names and basically insult you.
16:18.43TheRealAdrianai didnt feel respected
16:18.56TheRealAdrianayeah my mom is very insulting
16:19.01TheRealAdrianalike she doesnt care
16:19.27TheRealAdrianabut she raised me strict..like i was allowed to hang out when i just had like 2 friends that were nice enough to talk to me
16:19.34TheRealAdrianashe wouldnt let me sleep over
16:20.15rosevaanoh I see
16:20.27TheRealAdrianaso that made me feel depressed
16:20.43TheRealAdrianabecause finally i make 2 good friends, and she doesnt let me hang out with them
16:21.00rosevaanyeah, and calls you antisocial if you didn't have such friends
16:21.16TheRealAdrianai know
16:22.00TheRealAdrianabut im glad im an adult now
16:22.11TheRealAdrianashe still tries to control me
16:22.15TheRealAdrianabut i dont let it happen
16:23.06rosevaanyeah that's good
16:23.22TheRealAdrianalike little things she tries to control..like when i first moved into my apartment, she was like demanding where i should put stuff around my apartment, instead of just suggesting and asking me how i feel about that, or if thats what i really want
16:23.28TheRealAdrianashe was acting like that was her apartment
16:23.50rosevaanhey Adriana I have to go figure out lunch.  I will keep comign in here I think.
16:23.57rosevaanoh wow
16:24.01rosevaanyeah that's not nice
16:24.03TheRealAdrianaok rosevaan , it was nice talking to you
16:24.06TheRealAdriana:)
16:24.26TheRealAdrianaim gonna try to get some sleep
16:24.30TheRealAdrianabye
16:24.33rosevaanbye take care
16:24.37rosevaan:)
16:24.39TheRealAdrianayou too =]
16:24.42rosevaannice talking to you too
16:24.48TheRealAdrianasame
16:24.50TheRealAdrianato you
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