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06:55.27 | PooperScooper | 'ello gents I'd like to request an unban |
06:55.43 | PooperScooper | I foolishly requested a 30-day ban yesterday and shit's sorted itself out now |
06:55.47 | PooperScooper | and I miss 420chan |
06:56.31 | PooperScooper | <PROTECTED> |
07:02.27 | PooperScooper | ^ that was my original post |
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07:43.49 | DegreesAwesome | Hi |
07:44.12 | IrcDroidClient | i am looking for a girl |
07:45.23 | DegreesAwesome | Lol |
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10:17.04 | xiaoshen | hi all :) |
10:17.10 | xiaoshen | i need help XD |
10:17.23 | xiaoshen | i run ktpass in windows server 2008 |
10:17.28 | xiaoshen | but i got an error |
10:18.06 | xiaoshen | http://pastebin.com/rzEwEvtZ |
10:18.27 | xiaoshen | anyone please kindly help XD |
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11:48.37 | xperia | could anyone here help me with a problem on my xperia v? |
11:51.10 | Zhaofeng_Li | xperia, ... |
11:51.45 | Zhaofeng_Li | xperia, software problems? try #android |
11:52.09 | xperia | not really software problems |
11:52.21 | xperia | the screen doesnt show an image, but the touchscreen works |
11:52.31 | xperia | i need to know where to press to turn off the phone |
11:52.53 | xperia | because i cant see where i am touching |
11:52.56 | Zhaofeng_Li | xperia, the fastest way - take out the battery |
11:53.12 | xperia | when i reinsert it, it reboots |
11:53.35 | Zhaofeng_Li | xperia, are you sure it isn't a software problem? |
11:54.00 | xperia | pretty sure. dropped it onto the ground |
11:54.40 | Zhaofeng_Li | xperia, then I'm afraid I can't help you... |
11:54.51 | xperia | i need to get it into recovery so that i can relock the bootloader before handing it into service where i bought it |
11:55.16 | xperia | ok |
11:55.18 | Zhaofeng_Li | xperia, Home+Volume Up+Power? |
11:55.19 | xperia | thanks anyways |
11:55.33 | Zhaofeng_Li | xperia, np |
11:55.41 | xperia | yes, it's just that i cant turn it off :P |
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15:23.57 | TheRealAdriana | hello? |
15:24.05 | rosevaan | hello |
15:24.12 | TheRealAdriana | i need help with something |
15:24.18 | rosevaan | what's wrong? |
15:24.42 | TheRealAdriana | i have symtoms of aspergers...so im not really confident when it comes to socializing. but i am confident a bit as far as my looks go |
15:24.48 | TheRealAdriana | no trying to sound conceited |
15:24.55 | TheRealAdriana | but i've learned to like my features |
15:24.59 | TheRealAdriana | physical ones |
15:25.12 | rosevaan | That's good. It's very nice to like your own avatar. |
15:25.12 | TheRealAdriana | but anyway, i have a sweet sixteen to go to this summ |
15:25.15 | TheRealAdriana | summer |
15:25.47 | TheRealAdriana | and the only people i know is my husband, my mother and father in law, and my sister in law (the one who is turning 16) |
15:26.04 | rosevaan | Alright |
15:26.09 | TheRealAdriana | it will be like in a hall. and i need help. i dont know how im supposed to act while im there |
15:26.16 | TheRealAdriana | i tend to have a serious face a lot |
15:26.25 | TheRealAdriana | and i dont like dancing in front of people |
15:26.33 | rosevaan | Me too. I keep being told to smile. Which in turn makes me slightly homicidal. |
15:26.52 | TheRealAdriana | so that means im basically going to be sitting the whole time...what if his family members want to greet me |
15:27.00 | TheRealAdriana | im concerned i might act too weird |
15:27.27 | rosevaan | It's hard, I may not the best person to give you advice because I basically have the same problem. |
15:27.28 | TheRealAdriana | what if they ask me to dance? |
15:27.34 | TheRealAdriana | i really dont want to |
15:27.41 | TheRealAdriana | and i dont want to be the only party pooper |
15:28.02 | rosevaan | But it tends to work to just be quiet-polite, smile and discreetly observe your surroundings. |
15:28.28 | TheRealAdriana | i tend to have a drousy look...and i daydream a lot too when i dont know what to do |
15:28.34 | TheRealAdriana | or what to say |
15:28.40 | TheRealAdriana | i dont want to appear bored |
15:28.40 | rosevaan | I find though that I become a bit of an imitator, which has some use at times. I observe for a little bit and then I begin acting a bit like the other people. It makes me blend in somewhat. |
15:29.12 | TheRealAdriana | and the only person im really going to be conversating with is either my husband or my father in law |
15:29.16 | rosevaan | I know what you mean. I do appear bored a lot in those situations. Especially if it drags for longer than I have energy for appearances. |
15:29.24 | TheRealAdriana | everyone else will just be a quick hi how are you doing |
15:29.44 | rosevaan | Do you feel like you can trust your husband to not leave you alone? You can just go around with him. |
15:30.10 | rosevaan | Also, generally in most of these things, people do that, just quick hi and smile and that's their whole interaction. It's not just you. |
15:30.11 | TheRealAdriana | im afraid someone will call me over and tell my husband to not come or something |
15:30.18 | TheRealAdriana | like tell him "oh dont worry, just sit" |
15:30.39 | TheRealAdriana | or what if someone says, "ok picture only for all the ladies" and my husband cant be by my side |
15:31.06 | rosevaan | Just remember that if the worst comes and you're very quiet and reserved during the party, it's not the worst thing ever. |
15:31.14 | TheRealAdriana | and i have to stand next to someone i dont really know for a picture |
15:31.30 | rosevaan | Sounds like you have some social anxiety. |
15:31.32 | TheRealAdriana | and then what if they all start dancing after the picture and im left there all awkward |
15:31.35 | TheRealAdriana | and tell me to dance |
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15:32.00 | rosevaan | Yeah, I am not sure what to do about the dancing part either. |
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15:32.39 | TheRealAdriana | plus i really dont like loud music |
15:32.40 | rosevaan | Have you talked to your husband about these fears? |
15:32.55 | TheRealAdriana | expecially if it's katy perry, britney spears, techno type music |
15:33.03 | rosevaan | Well you definitely won't be in your element, but for the sake of your sister in law, sometimes we have to do these things. |
15:33.03 | TheRealAdriana | and thats most likely what will be blasting |
15:33.31 | TheRealAdriana | my husband is aware that i am socially awkward |
15:33.37 | TheRealAdriana | he is too, except he is NT |
15:33.49 | TheRealAdriana | and can pull off things with people really well |
15:33.52 | rosevaan | Yeah but does he know the full extent of your fears related to this specific situation? |
15:33.56 | TheRealAdriana | because he can actually make eye contact |
15:34.01 | rosevaan | What ar eyou? |
15:34.02 | TheRealAdriana | but he doesnt dance |
15:34.05 | TheRealAdriana | im not NT |
15:34.26 | TheRealAdriana | i have symptoms of aspergers since i was a baby |
15:34.29 | rosevaan | Ask him how he manages to decline dancing? |
15:34.42 | rosevaan | If he manages to say no to that, you may get a few tips on how to do it yourself. |
15:34.49 | rosevaan | In general, I think your best bet is to discuss this with him. |
15:34.50 | TheRealAdriana | he'll probably tell me to say "no thank you" |
15:35.32 | TheRealAdriana | yeah i'll talk to him about it..but this whole situation kept me up so far for like 2 days |
15:35.46 | rosevaan | Tell him that too. Tell him the full extent of it. |
15:35.46 | TheRealAdriana | only had like 2 hours of sleep the night before |
15:35.51 | TheRealAdriana | and today only had like an hour sleep |
15:36.06 | TheRealAdriana | my body feels tired but i cant sleep cause i have so much running in my mind |
15:36.06 | rosevaan | Even for people with social anxiety (I have it), it's not that bad for me so I may not understand precisely how bad it is unless you tell me. Same with him. |
15:36.31 | TheRealAdriana | i've tried breathing in and out, listening to calm noises..white noises to help me sleep, took a warm shower..and still cant sleep |
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15:37.14 | rosevaan | It may be hard to rest until the issue is solved. |
15:37.26 | TheRealAdriana | my biggest problem is thinking about what to say when asked a question im not prepared for |
15:37.55 | rosevaan | Those things are aquired with practice I think. The more you do it the more you know how to do it. But you haven't had much practice. |
15:38.01 | TheRealAdriana | and also, i have an awkward way of keeping myself together..especially with my hands |
15:38.04 | TheRealAdriana | they look stiff |
15:38.15 | TheRealAdriana | and i dont know what to do with them |
15:38.18 | TheRealAdriana | or where to put them |
15:38.37 | TheRealAdriana | i usually have them crossed, but that makes me look mad or cold |
15:38.51 | TheRealAdriana | and when they are on my sides, they look stiff and unnatural |
15:38.54 | rosevaan | Yeah, you're overly aware of your own movements and reactions, and the more you do that, the more distracted you get by them and the less natural they become. |
15:39.03 | rosevaan | It goes on a cycle I'm well familiar with. |
15:39.25 | TheRealAdriana | yeah im aware of my every movement |
15:39.41 | rosevaan | I only realize I act natural when I forget about it and don't care. But then, getting to the point where you don't care, that's the issue. |
15:39.42 | TheRealAdriana | because it has been brought up to me even by a group therapist i went to in high school |
15:39.51 | rosevaan | It's like you can't will yourself not to care. I don't know how it happens when it happens. |
15:39.53 | TheRealAdriana | she said i have some extreme hand movements when i speak |
15:39.58 | TheRealAdriana | and so that made me aware of it |
15:40.20 | TheRealAdriana | and plus i tend to stim in social situations..so i have to be aware that i dont do it |
15:40.28 | TheRealAdriana | which makes me even more stiff |
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15:40.48 | rosevaan | You know, it's possible that you may come off as weird to people who are not used to you. But it doesn't mean there's something wrong with you. |
15:41.41 | rosevaan | People in general don't understand aspergers or any behavioural differences. Anything that comes out of the ordinary, it disturbs their world. They are for the most part not malicious though. |
15:42.10 | TheRealAdriana | yeah |
15:42.18 | TheRealAdriana | i wish more people would understand aspergers |
15:42.28 | TheRealAdriana | but i dont like telling people in real life |
15:42.29 | rosevaan | But I think you definitely should seek support from your husband. Explicitly. He may know who you are but you guys need to talk about the current situation, the party specifically. |
15:42.35 | TheRealAdriana | because i dont like to get treated different |
15:42.48 | TheRealAdriana | or like if im retarded |
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15:43.21 | rosevaan | I know. I don't know if I have aspergers so I say I don't because I think it's unfair to those who actually have aspergers. All I know is that I act weird and people have pointed it out. |
15:43.31 | rosevaan | I think I'm very smart but many times I've been treated like I was mentally challenged. |
15:43.59 | rosevaan | Because of how I look when I talk and move. |
15:44.11 | TheRealAdriana | for me, i just say i have the symptoms. i think my mom didnt want me diagnosed so that it wont be on the records and prevent me from entering a good college |
15:44.31 | TheRealAdriana | but i have basically all the symtoms |
15:44.32 | rosevaan | Oh wow I didn't know aspergers could prevent you from entering a good college. |
15:44.41 | rosevaan | That's... awful. |
15:44.46 | TheRealAdriana | the stimming (hand flapping specifically in private though) |
15:44.52 | TheRealAdriana | poor eye contact |
15:45.01 | TheRealAdriana | poor hand gestures and body posture |
15:45.07 | TheRealAdriana | difficulty making friends |
15:45.17 | TheRealAdriana | getting bullied badly in school |
15:45.26 | TheRealAdriana | repetitive routines |
15:45.32 | TheRealAdriana | the list just goes on and on |
15:46.32 | rosevaan | Yeah, I think when those 'normal' things don't come to you naturally, eventually you can train yourself to do them when it's needed. |
15:46.47 | TheRealAdriana | as far as health issues, it is common for aspies to have lots of allergies/intolerance to foods, low vitamin d levels, gut issues |
15:46.52 | TheRealAdriana | i have those problems |
15:46.53 | rosevaan | But you got a husband, that's a good sign, you found someone you connected with and someone who understands you. |
15:47.30 | TheRealAdriana | yes and whats cool is that he is NT. his brother told him that when i speak, i say things the same way my husband says them |
15:47.42 | TheRealAdriana | guess my brother in law caught up with my mimicking |
15:48.03 | rosevaan | Yes, but it's not just us who do mimicking. You'll find that he has probably adopted some of your traits too. |
15:48.17 | rosevaan | My SO and I we have taken things from each other like that. |
15:48.35 | rosevaan | It's only apparent when mutual friends and family point it out. |
15:49.01 | TheRealAdriana | he probably does..like he pronounces some words like me that he used to not pronounce |
15:49.17 | rosevaan | Yeah, it happens. I think it's nice. :D |
15:49.25 | TheRealAdriana | yea =] |
15:50.04 | TheRealAdriana | i think we connected too because he is a shy guy...like he's laid back..but can be really quiet around people he doesnt know |
15:50.18 | TheRealAdriana | but he still knows how to speak up and all the social norms comes naturally to him |
15:50.40 | rosevaan | Yeah, he may be shy and all but he doesn't have aspergers. |
15:50.42 | TheRealAdriana | what i like is that he looks past my symptoms..like he doesnt get bothered if i dont always make eye contact |
15:50.51 | TheRealAdriana | or if im stiff |
15:50.57 | TheRealAdriana | and moving akwardly |
15:51.02 | TheRealAdriana | he doesnt get weirded out |
15:51.08 | rosevaan | That's good, it means you don't have to act unnaturally for him. |
15:51.12 | TheRealAdriana | or annoyed by my routines |
15:51.44 | TheRealAdriana | yea, and because of that i tend to act more relaxed around him, less stressed, and i'm able to speak properly |
15:51.53 | TheRealAdriana | and think of what to say on the spot when he asks me things |
15:52.08 | rosevaan | Exactly, you know he doesn't care, so you don't monitor yourself as much with him |
15:52.29 | rosevaan | And when you don't monitor yourself you relax more and end up acting more natural... naturally. |
15:52.43 | TheRealAdriana | exactly |
15:53.25 | TheRealAdriana | but around other people, since i want to make a good impression, i end up over thinking things, and thats when i start to act unnatural, or stutter on certain words when asked something |
15:53.49 | TheRealAdriana | it could be something simple like "how are you", if i am feeling uneasy i will stutter or blank out |
15:53.59 | TheRealAdriana | when answering that |
15:54.02 | TheRealAdriana | question |
15:54.29 | TheRealAdriana | my neighbor who i never really see or speak too asked me one day "how are you" and i stuttered |
15:54.36 | TheRealAdriana | all i had to say was "im good, and you?" |
15:54.52 | TheRealAdriana | but even when i say that, it sounds weird..maybe a bit fake and forced |
15:55.04 | rosevaan | Yeah, I have been there myself. |
15:55.30 | rosevaan | Like, I coudln't even order something on the phone. I would dial and they'd say 'hello' and my mind would get blank. |
15:55.38 | rosevaan | And they got impatient. |
15:55.47 | rosevaan | And after a while of this happening, I learned to fear the phone. |
15:55.55 | TheRealAdriana | you know what i do |
15:56.03 | TheRealAdriana | i write down what im going to say before i call |
15:56.05 | rosevaan | So just now I got a call and I think I did okay but my heart is racing. |
15:56.08 | TheRealAdriana | and then practice |
15:56.18 | TheRealAdriana | then i call, and order and make appointments,, ect |
15:56.26 | rosevaan | Yes, I did that with the orders. Now I always say the same words. It bores me but it works and people seem to think I'm normal. |
15:56.33 | TheRealAdriana | and i try to read what i wrote as natural as possible |
15:56.43 | rosevaan | I haven't been able to tackle appointments yet. |
15:56.52 | TheRealAdriana | which is a bit easy for me because the right facial expression is not neccessary |
15:56.59 | TheRealAdriana | neither is eye contact |
15:57.03 | TheRealAdriana | or body posture |
15:57.28 | rosevaan | It was a professor on the phone just now and he is always overly formal, so I learned to be formal with him. But right now he sounded warmer and even made a joke and it threw me off completely. So I stuttered again. |
15:57.38 | TheRealAdriana | the worse is going to a resturant and having to order food face to face |
15:57.57 | rosevaan | I don't understand this about myself. But I fear the phone more than I fear face to face. |
15:58.02 | TheRealAdriana | especially because i have to go into detail about what not to put in my food due to my allergies |
15:58.10 | rosevaan | It may have to do with having conditioned myself to fear the phone. |
15:58.40 | rosevaan | I fear both, but sometimes I end up going to the building myself instead of making a call. Which is... silly, to say the least. |
15:59.10 | rosevaan | Are your allergies that bad? Have they caused any serious consequences? |
15:59.40 | TheRealAdriana | i went to a restaurant with my mother and sister in law, and my husband...and i didnt know what my meal was called...never heard the word before and i wasnt sure of how to pronouce it, and i didnt want to ask and appear stupid to my mother and sister in law. so when i ordered, i just pointed to the waiter what i wanted and said what i wanted "yeah i want the chicken with sauted mushrooms, red peppers, and tomatoes" |
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16:00.17 | TheRealAdriana | but then i had to explain to not put dressing in it because im allergic to eggs..he then gave me a weird look cause i guess he thought "um..you need some sort of dressing to cook the chicken" |
16:00.18 | rosevaan | Ah that's okay though. It was a good strategy what you did by the way. |
16:00.28 | TheRealAdriana | so then he started asking questions, and i got all stuttery |
16:00.33 | rosevaan | Aww |
16:00.49 | TheRealAdriana | im allergic to eggs |
16:01.08 | rosevaan | Yes, it's hard with food allergies. I have allergies but they are rather mild. I get these skin rashes all over and also awful allergic rhynitis and asthma. They are mostly related to dust and humidity and not food (that I know of). |
16:01.30 | rosevaan | But with food, eating out becomes problematic. |
16:02.26 | TheRealAdriana | yeah i have asthma too |
16:02.29 | TheRealAdriana | and eczema |
16:02.39 | TheRealAdriana | also related to dust and humidity |
16:02.45 | rosevaan | I am not allergic but I don't like beans or lentils, and the university restaurant sometimes only offers one of these options. So when it's my turn I get very scared several minutes before, about what if they only have beans and lentils? how am I going to say to them not to give me that? |
16:02.56 | rosevaan | So sometimes I just say nothing, get the lentils and give them to my friend. |
16:03.15 | TheRealAdriana | yeah |
16:03.20 | TheRealAdriana | sounds like something i would do |
16:03.39 | rosevaan | It's just things that objectively are rather silly I think. But when you are in the moment, it's the only things we can do. |
16:03.41 | TheRealAdriana | at the restaurant, they gave us bread with butter before they brought the dinner |
16:03.51 | TheRealAdriana | and i was offered to put butter on my bread |
16:04.32 | TheRealAdriana | i really wanted to, but i refused because my motor skills are not so great, and i tend to struggle with simple things like spreading butter on bread, especially because i over think things in front of other people |
16:04.55 | TheRealAdriana | if it was just my husband and i, i would have easily been able to spread the butter on the bread with no problem |
16:05.06 | rosevaan | ah dang |
16:05.07 | TheRealAdriana | but i didnt want to mess up, and have my mother and sister in law watch me |
16:05.37 | rosevaan | yeah |
16:05.45 | rosevaan | then you end up without the butter because of it |
16:05.53 | TheRealAdriana | yea |
16:07.00 | TheRealAdriana | so i just ate the bread without the butter, just in case i did something wrong, even when i went to grab the bread, i was trying to get one piece, but it was so hard to rip off. i thought it was going to be easy..so i just took like 3 pieces of bread. they were like stuck together |
16:07.17 | TheRealAdriana | but it thought it was going to be easy to just rip a piece of bread |
16:07.30 | TheRealAdriana | but it wasnt..so i ended up taking and eating more than i wanted to |
16:07.49 | rosevaan | yeah I've done thigns like that |
16:08.13 | TheRealAdriana | like little things like that bother and embaress me in front of people |
16:08.31 | TheRealAdriana | especially because i was bullied a lot in school, i dont want to do or say things that may cause someone to laugh at me |
16:08.50 | rosevaan | yes, it makes you especially sensitive to it |
16:08.55 | TheRealAdriana | yeah |
16:09.10 | rosevaan | Unable to take the advice of 'just don't care about what people think!'. |
16:09.25 | TheRealAdriana | i know |
16:09.28 | TheRealAdriana | its so hard |
16:09.36 | TheRealAdriana | words can be powerful |
16:09.38 | TheRealAdriana | and hurt |
16:09.47 | rosevaan | Because it's tied to, I guess, mental mines that may go off and you don't want to suffer that. |
16:10.23 | TheRealAdriana | like i dont mind if my husband laughs at silly things i do..because i know he still accepts me |
16:10.29 | TheRealAdriana | and doesnt treat me like if im stupid |
16:10.42 | TheRealAdriana | but when other people laugh at me for a quirk i do, i get sensitive |
16:11.31 | rosevaan | Yes I know what you mean. And it still took a while. At first I took things the wrong way with my SO because I was too sensitive. |
16:11.45 | rosevaan | But after a while I realized I was respected and liked. So now I can laugh too. |
16:11.49 | rosevaan | But not with other people. |
16:12.27 | rosevaan | In school people rarely took me seriously and they would laugh at me aswell. I was a good student so they only approached me if they needed something. |
16:12.49 | TheRealAdriana | yeah...what makes it harder for me is that i grew up in like an urban type but strictt hispanic culture. and my husbands family is from a more formal sort of laid back white culture |
16:13.04 | TheRealAdriana | so its hard for me to relate to them |
16:13.10 | rosevaan | I ended up so paranoid that sometimes people are laughing in tiny groups and I'm all 'I bet they're laughing at me! They're laughing because I'm weird." But they are probably not even thinking of me. |
16:13.36 | rosevaan | Strict in what sense? |
16:14.14 | TheRealAdriana | like strict like you dont tell jokes or are allowed to say whatever you want without getting yelled at |
16:14.35 | rosevaan | Oh wow that's awful. |
16:14.42 | TheRealAdriana | like my sister in law talks to her mom like this ":mom you are so stupid...stop mom...you're so annoying" |
16:14.53 | TheRealAdriana | and her mom (my mother in law) just laughs |
16:14.57 | rosevaan | oh well that's kinda the opposite extreme |
16:15.08 | rosevaan | but I think I get what you mean |
16:15.18 | TheRealAdriana | if i were to say that to my mom, she will yell at me, and punish me if i were my sister in laws age |
16:15.26 | rosevaan | I grew up in a hispanic culture but they are relatively laid back. |
16:15.57 | rosevaan | I have never called my mom stupid though, but that's mainly because I don't do that. I think it's disrespectful, even as a joke. |
16:16.08 | rosevaan | But we can laugh and mock each other in other ways. |
16:16.44 | TheRealAdriana | yeah..maybe its just my mom..she was a bit abusive |
16:17.05 | TheRealAdriana | like she would always find a way and a reason to yell at me |
16:17.09 | rosevaan | :S |
16:17.12 | TheRealAdriana | and she would call me stupid |
16:17.16 | TheRealAdriana | as a young child |
16:17.21 | TheRealAdriana | so that bothered me |
16:17.29 | TheRealAdriana | and she wasnt understanding of my aspie symptoms |
16:17.32 | rosevaan | Yeah I don't get that, you're not allowed to call her stupid, which would be fine except she does it to you. |
16:17.44 | TheRealAdriana | like she knew i didnt like partys, but she will throw them anyway and not ask me how i feel |
16:17.46 | rosevaan | She demands respect without giving it. |
16:17.51 | TheRealAdriana | she even called me anti social |
16:18.02 | TheRealAdriana | for staying in my room during a house party |
16:18.22 | TheRealAdriana | exactly rosevaan |
16:18.41 | rosevaan | yeah, I get people not understanding aspergers but another thing is to go and call you names and basically insult you. |
16:18.43 | TheRealAdriana | i didnt feel respected |
16:18.56 | TheRealAdriana | yeah my mom is very insulting |
16:19.01 | TheRealAdriana | like she doesnt care |
16:19.27 | TheRealAdriana | but she raised me strict..like i was allowed to hang out when i just had like 2 friends that were nice enough to talk to me |
16:19.34 | TheRealAdriana | she wouldnt let me sleep over |
16:20.15 | rosevaan | oh I see |
16:20.27 | TheRealAdriana | so that made me feel depressed |
16:20.43 | TheRealAdriana | because finally i make 2 good friends, and she doesnt let me hang out with them |
16:21.00 | rosevaan | yeah, and calls you antisocial if you didn't have such friends |
16:21.16 | TheRealAdriana | i know |
16:22.00 | TheRealAdriana | but im glad im an adult now |
16:22.11 | TheRealAdriana | she still tries to control me |
16:22.15 | TheRealAdriana | but i dont let it happen |
16:23.06 | rosevaan | yeah that's good |
16:23.22 | TheRealAdriana | like little things she tries to control..like when i first moved into my apartment, she was like demanding where i should put stuff around my apartment, instead of just suggesting and asking me how i feel about that, or if thats what i really want |
16:23.28 | TheRealAdriana | she was acting like that was her apartment |
16:23.50 | rosevaan | hey Adriana I have to go figure out lunch. I will keep comign in here I think. |
16:23.57 | rosevaan | oh wow |
16:24.01 | rosevaan | yeah that's not nice |
16:24.03 | TheRealAdriana | ok rosevaan , it was nice talking to you |
16:24.06 | TheRealAdriana | :) |
16:24.26 | TheRealAdriana | im gonna try to get some sleep |
16:24.30 | TheRealAdriana | bye |
16:24.33 | rosevaan | bye take care |
16:24.37 | rosevaan | :) |
16:24.39 | TheRealAdriana | you too =] |
16:24.42 | rosevaan | nice talking to you too |
16:24.48 | TheRealAdriana | same |
16:24.50 | TheRealAdriana | to you |
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