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| 08:16.03 | kamathln | I am looking for games for my little niece 3.5 years .. she is already happy with childsplay and tuxpaint.. I have downloaded tuxtype, gcompris, jiletters , lbreakout, pingus, circuslinux, enigma and rocks&diamonds.. |
| 08:16.16 | kamathln | does any one know more ? |
| 08:17.24 | kamathln | i know rocks&diamonds is for slightly elder children.. but that's what my sister thinks she is ;-) |
| 08:21.44 | olegfink | personally I'd suggest more non-computer activities for that age :-). I have no idea how's the situation with developmental games for kids in India, but here at least there are lots of pretty decent things to choose from, just get to the nearest book/toy store 'round the corner. |
| 08:23.59 | kamathln | olegfink: hehhe. she gets enough and more excercise .. |
| 08:24.11 | olegfink | the problem with gcompris/childsplay is that they, being really nice pieces of software, somewhat lack in education methodics -- no wonder, because they've been created mainly by programmers, not teachers. |
| 08:24.20 | kamathln | my sis is going back to her town tomorrow .. not all the games will be introduced at once |
| 08:24.33 | olegfink | (and the existing efforts of creating something more professional that I know of really suck.) |
| 08:26.44 | olegfink | but, heh, rant apart and back to your original question, I'm afraid you've named pretty everything that I've touched. |
| 08:26.56 | kamathln | she is a tasmanian devil, we struggle to keep her in one place |
| 08:27.04 | kamathln | ell, thanks anyways.. |
| 08:27.23 | olegfink | (enigma is largerly too diffucult probably) |
| 08:27.38 | kamathln | she does not mind winning .. |
| 08:27.48 | kamathln | or losing .. |
| 08:27.53 | olegfink | *difficult |
| 08:27.55 | kamathln | she just wants to make ounds |
| 08:28.18 | kamathln | yeah.. As I said, it will probably be introduced to her after a while , when she is old enough |
| 08:28.55 | olegfink | heh, I hope then there will be something more to show her... |
| 08:29.06 | kamathln | and again, My sis wants to play games, but at the same time she wants games that my niece will enjoy seeing |
| 08:29.06 | olegfink | if we ever get to it and don't fail. |
| 08:29.18 | kamathln | yeah |
| 08:29.58 | kamathln | I was thinking of pysycache, but she had surprised us by learning to use the mouse in under 5 minutes ;-) |
| 08:30.39 | olegfink | generally, games with exploration/experimentation attitude are probably good candidates for your sister/niece play :-) |
| 08:31.35 | kamathln | yes.. That is why i told my sis to introduce her to tuxpaint, childsplay and gcompris first |
| 08:31.52 | olegfink | yeah, other than The Big Internet Threat, just leave kids with the computer and come back to learn something from them... |
| 08:31.55 | kamathln | or did you have something else in mind |
| 08:32.19 | kamathln | "from them" - rightly put .. |
| 08:32.47 | kamathln | my mom, purposefully not tech savvy, learnt how to use the mouse from my niece |
| 08:34.00 | olegfink | well, in fact, there weren't many kid games back in my childhood, and early versions of microsoft office provided enough ground for playing |
| 08:34.25 | olegfink | (well, a typewriter was nice too, but it was consuming too much paper) |
| 08:35.03 | kamathln | coming back to my niece, she currently believes in "the game ghost" who takes games away games and adds games when the ghost pleases .. so its easy for us to control her computer usage ;-) |
| 08:35.05 | olegfink | so I'm not exactly sure there should exist _very_ special kids activities for reasons other than sandboxing |
| 08:35.48 | kamathln | well, thats the same here too.. my toy was photoshop, which fortunately gave way to GIMP |
| 08:36.22 | kamathln | oh, for this girl, a sandbox environment is very much requirex |
| 08:36.25 | kamathln | required* |
| 08:36.32 | kamathln | she is a sponge for bad habits |
| 08:37.34 | kamathln | though she hates writing, she has a thirst for knowledge. |
| 08:38.05 | kamathln | haha! no actually you should rename kdesktop as game ghost .. |
| 08:38.23 | kamathln | we simply remove and add the icons at the "ghost"'s wish |
| 08:39.01 | olegfink | heh, that'll work for a year or so |
| 08:39.47 | olegfink | then she'll at least discover the K menu with entries controlled by XDG and thus not that easily removable |
| 08:40.02 | kamathln | of course.. in another incident, she surprised us by choosing and running the next 10 minute cartoon from the file manager after the first one had finished |
| 08:40.13 | kamathln | quite agree.. |
| 08:41.14 | olegfink | coincidently, I was just reading about the release of an educational LiveCD by one of our local linux vendors |
| 08:42.01 | kamathln | oh.. probably you can share the link? |
| 08:42.29 | olegfink | well, 'local' implies at least the news issue is written in a moonspeak |
| 08:42.34 | olegfink | http://www.altlinux.ru/community_news/alt_linux_4.1_children_beta.html |
| 08:42.50 | kamathln | though with a live cd, it would be difficult to control which games she plays and which she doesn't |
| 08:43.06 | olegfink | http://ftp.altlinux.org/pub/beta/children/ is the ISOs directory |
| 08:43.34 | olegfink | they'd be bad guys if they haven't implemented hd install |
| 08:44.12 | olegfink | well, seems they are; come on, the hdinstall script in knoppix has been around for years, and using rpm isn't an excuse. |
| 08:44.45 | kamathln | hehheh. |
| 08:45.17 | kamathln | btw, its a 500+ MB download , and I am on a frustratingly slow Internet |
| 08:45.47 | kamathln | My sis would probably reach her twon by the time it downloads! |
| 08:45.52 | kamathln | town* |
| 08:45.58 | olegfink | I'm not saying that's worth the size |
| 08:46.21 | kamathln | yeah I know .. I was just taking the chance to crib abt my net conenction |
| 08:46.31 | olegfink | I suspect that's just their flagship dsitribution livecd with gcompris &friends slammed in |
| 08:49.01 | kamathln | oh okay |
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