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02:46.07syndeticthe enigma of this room keeps me coming back again and again
02:46.23syndeticgod, you guys are fascinating, even though you've never said a single word
02:46.26syndeticwow
02:46.32nopealiciousindeed
02:46.37syndeticah!
02:46.40nopealiciousyou are welcome for nothing
02:46.52syndeticyou're human?
02:46.56nopealiciousindeed
02:47.07syndeticso what IS this channel for or about?
02:47.18nopealiciousbut may depend on how you define human
02:48.32syndeticessays.  you find essays here, buried beneath miles of rock and rubble and covered for hundreds of years
02:48.47syndeticthey were essays written by grade-school children
02:49.12nopealiciousto make sure ppl use only 1 channel to support those in search of information not un undefineable number; greater channels seem to be merged sometimes to make sure a "as large as possible" domain is formed
02:49.21syndeticbut why just essays?  where's the broken glass and the tin cans?
02:50.13syndeticyeah, i understand that.  that's why there are the ##-prefixed channels
02:50.34nopealiciousindeed
02:50.37syndeticthose channels are very specific and get sorted first
02:51.06nopealiciousthey are large and mostly reliable domains of information exchange yes
02:51.26syndeticbut the topic of this channel seems to be a surreptitious invitation to philosophize or something
02:51.27nopealiciouslimited to topic tho!
02:51.57syndetickind of like asking, "what's the meaning of life?"  except without really asking explicitly
02:52.03nopealiciousits seems the essence of this channel is similar to the essence of the tao
02:52.07nopealiciousit is, yet it is not
02:52.09syndeticwell said
02:52.14nopealiciousthank you
02:54.08syndeticthe first time i came in here it was in the wee hours of the morning and i just typed whatever random things came to my head.  no one kicked me so i thought, "heh, this could be my little niche amongst an otherwise vast wall of sobriety."
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02:54.54syndeticanyway, on my way to a vodka buzz i decided to check this place out again
02:54.55nopealiciouslol
02:55.04nopealiciousintriguing
02:55.31nopealiciouswhat made you express your random thoughts to what ought to be an unheard channel?
02:56.54syndetici'm not entirely sure.  i mean, in the beginning i had no idea what this channel was really for, except that it didn't have an explicit purpose like the other channels here.  and i felt constipated with ideas
02:56.58syndetic...
02:57.12syndeticat the time and needed a release, so i hopped in here and just started typing.
02:59.10syndetici knew that i wasn't the only person here, as i could easily see other people in the channel.  about halfway through i started laughing hysterically and thinking, "If they're watching, they must think I'm NUTS!"  Which only inspired me to write more since I've always gotten strange looks and comments from people
02:59.42nopealiciousyou are NUTS!
02:59.49nopealicious:P
03:00.28nopealiciousbut thats not a problem; life is full of overstatements
03:00.33nopealiciousthat doesn't make them true
03:00.44syndetici guess it's like the closet thinker/poet/politician/scientist/etc. finally finding a public wall onto which he or she can spray graffiti
03:01.07nopealiciousyes
03:01.57syndeticfrom what i've seen, the other channels here will kick or ban you if you veer even slightly off-topic.  that makes sense, since they serve specific purposes
03:02.08nopealiciousnah its not that bad
03:02.17nopealiciousyou just have to make sure to stay primarily on topic
03:02.19syndeticone could blog, but this is better since it's real-time with potentially real feedback
03:02.47nopealicioussome off-topic lines to express your humanity can't be anything you should be blamed for
03:02.48syndeticexcept that i don't think i'd want feedback.  i'd prefer to creep in late at night when no one is watching.
03:03.09nopealiciousonly if it would disturb other communications in a way unbearable you will be removed
03:03.10syndeticblamed, no.  but you can still be kicked
03:03.33nopealiciousor the channel has fuckedup ops; in which case there mostly "already" is a better choice
03:03.42nopealicious</tiny_opinion>
03:04.05syndetici was in the java channel and i started to get "punchy."  so i came up with the idea of keeping a fart jar and collecting contributions.  this was during a long period of silence, mind you.  at that point an op kicked me.
03:04.55syndeticeveryone gets punchy now and then.  unless he or she is completely sober or brain-dead or hyper sane
03:05.45nopealiciousdo you believe sanity and perfection is not a thing to strive for in an every-day fashion?
03:06.46syndeticmy grandpa on my mom's side was honest and stated that he only drank alcohol for the effect.  which is why he never cared about the different brands of beer: they were all bad-tasting to him anyway, so it didn't make a different which one he bought, as long as the price was right
03:07.31syndetici think that sanity and perfection are overused terms whose definitions have veered far from their original meanings
03:07.46syndetici feel the same way about 'intelligence'
03:07.55nopealiciousindeed
03:08.37nopealiciouslets call it adapt then
03:08.37syndeticmy very first question that i asked when i first entered this channel was something to the effect of, "how can i tell if i'm intelligent?"
03:08.46syndeticadapt or adept?
03:09.15nopealiciousacclimatize
03:10.18syndeticokay.  well, it's a double-edged sword, i think.  over-adaptation or acclimitazation can be paralyzing
03:10.38syndeticthere are those who are able to adapt TOO well
03:10.47nopealiciousonly if you forget to double check you assumptions
03:10.54nopealiciouseven after you used them ;)
03:10.55syndeticsuch that they are chameleon-like
03:11.22syndetic"Never forget to check your references" -- Professor ???, Real Genius
03:11.55syndeticoops, spelling error
03:11.59syndeticacclimatization
03:12.02syndeticbetter
03:12.06nopealiciousk
03:12.13syndeticperfection
03:12.18nopealiciousindeed :)
03:12.22syndeticcauses stalling
03:12.30syndeticwhich causes others to become impatient
03:12.36nopealiciousintelligence can ahdnle it
03:12.41nopealicious;)^^
03:12.57syndeticintelligence can handle an 80-stage pipeline?
03:14.46syndeticdensity doesn't necessarily mean stupidity.  it could just mean that someone has extra pathways.  extra pathways implies complexity which results in reduced throughput but possibly better answers
03:14.49nopealiciouson i neam atht inletigence si blae ot enev undrestnad tish cpra
03:15.03syndeticah
03:15.07nopealicious:)
03:15.42nopealiciouspermutation of definition
03:15.43syndeticyay!  my first double-layer DVD just hatched from its egg!
03:16.21syndeticor perception
03:16.40nopealiciousindeed
03:16.40syndeticbedtime soon, i'm afraid.  i need to start hitting the sack earlier
03:16.55syndeticspeaking of sacked...
03:16.58nopealiciouscan lead to the same effect
03:17.22syndeticthe CTO of the company that recently offered me a job just quit last week
03:18.14syndeticput another way, the only guy with the keys to the bank vault ran off to another country permanently
03:18.49nopealiciousPatrice - 15 - Moneypulation.mp3
03:19.05syndeticnot in this case, i don't think
03:19.31nopealicioushm
03:19.32syndeticat least i hope not
03:19.43syndetictheir offer wasn't the best one around
03:19.55nopealiciousmoney, money, money, go and catch the money - money, money, money, go and snatch the money- money, money, money, moneypulation is going on - it takes over like a storm
03:20.15nopealicioushttp://www.oleo.tv/lyrics/patrice/moneypulation/
03:20.24syndeticwhat is it with all this talk of money lately?  first my teacher, then the CEO, then frank, now you
03:20.36nopealiciousmoney gives worth to things that that ain't go no worth that'S why useless - things mean so much to them
03:20.55syndeticwhoah.
03:20.59syndetic*ponders*
03:21.30syndetici'll have to think about that for a bit.  thanks for the pointer
03:22.16nopealiciousinformation is free :)
03:22.26syndeticsometimes
03:22.29nopealiciousalways
03:22.32nopealiciousisohunt.com
03:22.38syndeticoh, i was somewhere else
03:22.56syndeticyou had my up in the clouds
03:23.01syndeticmy = me
03:23.21nopealicioustell me about it
03:23.34syndeticspeaking of clouds and their reputed pillowyness, i need to head to bed in 5 mins.
03:23.50nopealiciousthats strict
03:23.52nopealiciousok then
03:24.54syndeticoh, i was thinking of money, resources, energy, the is, converging dimensions, "information is free," "nothing is free," everything requires an exchange, even if said exchange is nothing more than a glance across a room
03:25.09nopealiciousspeaking of information beeing free here a link: http://subsol.c3.hu/subsol_2/contributors0/warktext.html
03:25.19nopealiciousyou may judge as you want but not preliminary
03:25.27syndetici'll save a chat transcript and hit it later
03:25.41nopealicioussure, feel free to do what you want with it :)
03:25.50nopealiciousits information afterall
03:26.08syndeticCher
03:26.53syndetici wonder what she was like in her younger years
03:27.01nopealiciousomg i dont
03:28.01syndetici've always been on the lookout for smart hippies
03:28.36syndeticone's that are just as emotionally sensitive as they are mentally sharp
03:28.56syndeticso then you [possibly] end up with emotionally sharp and mentally sensitive
03:29.20syndeticof course, some of that will depend upon parenting and childhood environment
03:29.42syndetic¿adónde has ido, corazón?
03:30.08syndetical desierto, amor.
03:30.53syndetic¿y me abandonaste así no más?
03:30.55syndeticclaro
03:31.38syndetic(grumbled something about 'corazón frío')
03:32.40syndeticthat's more or less 5 minutes.  time to hit the sack
03:33.07syndeticgoodnight.  Zzzzzzzzzz...
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04:33.23J_Reywow this is really kewl man
04:33.24syndeticEl Rey ha llegado
04:33.41J_Reyno Rey is short for Reynolds
04:34.01J_Reyain't no king AFAIK
04:34.11syndeticestá bien.  entonces ¿dices que no eres Rey?
04:34.35syndetic¿te gustaría ser Rey?
04:35.06syndeticclaro que sí
04:35.50J_Reyhmm... http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
04:36.40J_Reylol ... ok no
04:37.04syndetic¿y su destino?  Llegará a ser presidente
04:37.13J_Reyse habla espanol muy pequito
04:37.30syndeticalgunos sí, otros no
04:37.39syndeticdepende de la persona
04:37.41J_Reytraducir ala Google
04:38.54syndeticésta gritó, "¡Fuego!  Â¡Fuego!"  Y todo el mundo salió corriendo del teatro.
04:39.31syndeticPero no vas a creer lo que pasó siguiente...
04:40.04syndetic¡Porque yo tampoco lo creo!  He-heeeee
04:40.21syndeticSo he blew a shoot!  Heyyyyyy, there
04:40.40syndeticAs Mr. D always said, half-mockingly
04:40.46syndeticHe was funny
04:41.01nopealiciousi thought you were going to bed
04:41.05J_Rey80's-90'
04:42.04syndeticYeah, I remember that period in my life.  My mom dated a guy named Rico.  He used to drive me around in his van, with Billy Joel singing "We Didn't Start the Fire" on the radio.
04:42.18syndeticnopealicious: I was, but i made a pit stop back
04:42.29J_ReyRico Suave?
04:42.35J_Rey;-)
04:42.42syndeticRico Ditorro.
04:42.53syndeticNot sure if i spelled his last name correctly
04:43.21syndeticAnyway, I never want to go back to that period in my life
04:43.39syndeticIt was shins and bike chains
04:44.15syndeticAnd sore ribs, complements of one's ill-chosen friends
04:44.33syndeticWe hated ourselves back then
04:44.48syndeticI feel like I sound like Gollum
04:45.09J_Reyjust don't eat your feet
04:45.30syndeticBut Mrs. Kinney said 'precious' too many times in grade school, now I refuse to say 'precious' ever again
04:45.49syndeticI wish i could stretch that far
04:46.08syndeticAs one girl once put it, "Then I'd never feel the need to go out!"
04:46.19J_ReyLOL!\
04:46.44syndeticShe was 20 and from Massachusetts, I was 17 and from Pennsylvania.  I wore her sweatshirt.
04:47.10J_Reyon your feet?
04:47.18syndeticAnd a good time was had by all.  I had escaped the tumult of my earlier life by then.
04:47.23syndeticOn my head!@
04:47.37syndeticSo that I couldn't see anything :)
04:47.58syndeticBut I was beginning to enter a newer, more difficult life
04:48.49syndeticAnd that's when it dawned on me: Hey, let's make clown suits!  Boom-boom-dee-doom
04:48.56syndeticSkatching the craw
04:49.30syndeticSee that X painted on the ground?  I want you to do your business RIGHT there.
04:49.42syndeticAnd don't water the plants!
04:49.55syndeticI have to _eat_ those tomatoes someday, you know
04:50.17syndeticAnd I don't want pissy tomaaaaaahtoes (British accent)
04:50.46syndeticNor pissy tomatoe pie
04:51.03syndeticWell, he-he, I'd never actually make tomatoe pie to begin with
04:51.09syndeticThat's gross
04:51.48syndeticMushy tomato slime beneath a crispy crust.  Mmmmmmm.  Sure gets MY mouth a-waterin'
04:51.58syndeticel-oh-el
04:52.18syndeticfLOLlipop
04:52.25syndetictee-hee :)
04:52.35syndeticWe sho happy!
04:53.14syndetic"Sho."  "What?"  "Sho."  "Show what?  I've already shown you everything."
04:53.20syndeticDuh
04:53.38syndeticMr. Claksmath
04:53.50syndeticHarvey, did you say something?
04:54.00syndeticYes, we said, "vroom-vroom-dee-doom"
04:54.11syndeticBoy, you sure do like that "dee-doom" ending, don't you?
04:54.16syndeticYes
04:54.33syndeticSick!  Sick, I tell you!
04:54.59syndeticAre you dancing in your underwear, Fred?
04:55.18J_Reyon that note...
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04:55.23syndeticFred: Oh, so YOU'RE the one who's been looking through my window for the past 8 months!
04:55.36syndeticAlice: *gasp*
04:55.52syndeticWhy is it always Fred and Alice?  Why is it always foo and bar?
04:56.12syndeticAren't I entertaining?
04:56.27syndeticI mean, am I not like the most awesome person?
04:56.46syndeticDon't "whoah, horsey" me!
04:57.04syndeticYou're androgynous.
04:57.30syndeticA fluppadoppamus?  What?
04:58.31syndeticSaxy.
04:58.39syndeticSaxy, waxy tomatoes
04:59.00syndeticYay, ho, whoah now, what's up with those tomatoes again?
04:59.15syndeticYes-siree, bobber
04:59.37syndetic(stress placed on the 'o')
04:59.59syndeticIs english very visually weighted?
05:00.46syndeticAre your cataracts karma-shaded?
05:00.54syndeticDo you like to be sedated?
05:00.56syndeticNo.
05:01.06syndeticthey sedated me in the hospital, i hated it
05:01.27syndeticby 3 years old i had already learned to curse
05:01.35syndeticand curse i did at the nurses and doctors
05:01.59syndeticpurpura
05:02.35syndeticdéjate volar..............................
05:02.55syndeticvuela más allá del cielo
05:03.13syndeticy no mires atrás
05:03.24syndetichasta próximo
05:03.37syndetic(me voy a acostar)
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