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| 09:51.25 | Jantz | anyone awake? |
| 09:53.51 | klys | yes |
| 09:54.16 | Jantz | hi klys hows things? are you a member? |
| 09:54.31 | klys | yes I am |
| 09:54.40 | klys | things are alright |
| 09:55.47 | Jantz | oh yeah hey has some things changed for divorced fathers about serving in the temple do you know? |
| 09:56.18 | klys | I tend to doubt that anything that technical had changed. |
| 09:56.56 | Jantz | thought i read something thats all just wanted to confirm |
| 09:57.27 | Jantz | wasnt an official site though so who knows |
| 09:57.53 | Jantz | just looking to chat would probably be on lds.org anyways |
| 09:57.56 | klys | really |
| 09:58.20 | klys | https://www.lds.org/languages/eng/lib/leaders would you know which one? |
| 09:58.38 | Jantz | yeah which site? |
| 10:01.19 | Jantz | are you referring to which doc or which site? |
| 10:01.39 | klys | which doc? |
| 10:03.43 | Jantz | actually couldnt find it |
| 10:03.54 | Jantz | are you from the USA? |
| 10:03.55 | klys | yeah I'm still looking |
| 10:04.04 | klys | Yeah I'm in Utah |
| 10:04.46 | Jantz | https://www.sltrib.com/religion/local/2017/08/25/mormons-unveil-temple-changes-single-lds-men-over-30-recently-divorced-members-can-now-serve-there/ |
| 10:05.40 | Jantz | nothing major |
| 10:06.09 | Jantz | Utah cool can i ask what generation member you are? |
| 10:07.13 | klys | well, about 6th or 7th |
| 10:07.53 | Jantz | unreal im only 5th but ive been inactive for sometime |
| 10:08.12 | klys | what's keeping you back, if I may ask |
| 10:08.48 | klys | if not, I encourage you to call your ward executive secretary |
| 10:09.04 | Jantz | the adversary has been working hard on me but i cant wait to get back |
| 10:09.17 | klys | yeah |
| 10:09.30 | Jantz | just had the missionaries over they gave me a blessing was cool |
| 10:09.45 | klys | well good. hope you make it to the temple. |
| 10:10.17 | Jantz | yeah sad thing is its closing for three years have to go inter |
| 10:10.42 | klys | oh I see, well australia has one, right? |
| 10:10.56 | klys | I'm guessing you're in new zealand |
| 10:11.07 | klys | from your hostmask |
| 10:12.44 | Jantz | yeah would love to go to Hawaii though might make it Aussie temples are a bit how do i say this made on the cheap i think to me they look like kit box temples oh i duno i dont really mean that |
| 10:13.35 | klys | well I guess the dallas temple looked like that too |
| 10:14.13 | klys | when we were building so many new temples, a lot of them were smaller |
| 10:14.59 | Jantz | Hawaii looks unreal to me not sure about the dallas temple but they shouldve never done that but hey im not going against church leadership |
| 10:15.35 | klys | I guess there are five temples in australia... |
| 10:16.27 | Jantz | yeah ok knew there was a few vast distances aye? |
| 10:16.54 | klys | https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/temples-list |
| 10:16.57 | klys | there ye go |
| 10:18.05 | Jantz | missionaries were saying china might be opening up? you heard anything? |
| 10:18.40 | klys | I have a cousin who served in China mandarin speaking |
| 10:19.10 | Jantz | mainland china for real? |
| 10:19.11 | klys | he's married now and it's been at long time since then |
| 10:19.34 | klys | yes, not hong kong, not taiwan, mainland china. |
| 10:20.17 | Jantz | far i didnt even know are they still i mean do they still have missions there now or? |
| 10:27.33 | klys | In 2017 there were three area leaders and one family history center (no missions) for the Asia (china) area. |
| 10:27.59 | klys | that is, in china proper there were no missions. |
| 10:28.09 | Jantz | yeah rightyo |
| 10:28.50 | klys | for anyone seeking revelation about china, the leaders are Randy D. Funk, David F Evans, and Peter F Meurs. |
| 10:29.11 | Jantz | would be a cool place to serve theyre quite spiritual arent they? |
| 10:29.33 | klys | and here is a map of the Asia area: https://www.lds.org/bc/content/ldsorg/church/news/2016/04/28/2016%20un-numbered%20areas/Asia.jpg?lang=eng |
| 10:29.57 | Jantz | do elderly couples wanting to serve get to choose where they go? |
| 10:30.41 | klys | I don't know, though I suspect there are jobs you can go through to work for the church and it might ofer some leeway (just might). |
| 10:31.00 | klys | that is, when seeking your new job/mission for the church |
| 10:31.51 | klys | if you go through lds employmen, I mean, you can select the job/mission of your choice from their job listings, to be clear. |
| 10:32.05 | klys | employment* |
| 10:32.58 | klys | I am curious what you brought you to think china has very spiritual people. do you know anyone? |
| 10:32.58 | Jantz | are you an lds employee? |
| 10:33.01 | klys | no |
| 10:33.26 | klys | I just happen to be here in Utah county. |
| 10:33.34 | klys | I reside here. |
| 10:35.09 | Jantz | Uncle married a bird from Hong Kong but i dont know her yet but its just from movies and docos that i get the gist and like for a country its size you never hear of anything like you do the US like murders terrorism stuff like that |
| 10:35.31 | klys | yeah, sounds good |
| 10:37.14 | klys | I would think this particular general conference talk would have special application in china: https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2013/10/called-of-him-to-declare-his-word?lang=eng |
| 10:37.38 | klys | though, it's from before he was called to the area leadership. |
| 10:37.45 | Jantz | for sure might be something to aim for in my older days actually theyre quite business oriented arent they would love to start my own business up there who knows might get to do it |
| 10:38.34 | klys | you mean hong kong? |
| 10:39.01 | Jantz | there is a need for quality sheep shearing in china therefore shearing contracting probably needs a major overhaul, mainland |
| 10:39.25 | klys | china proper, if you are that interested, might put you in a position where you should contact the area presidency directly. |
| 10:40.32 | Jantz | would they assist with? |
| 10:40.48 | klys | with revelation for what is needed in china. |
| 10:42.00 | klys | if there are no congregations there, whereas there were before, it might mean china is sinking into a warlike state (just a guess.) |
| 10:43.19 | Jantz | yeah im only an inactive at this stage once i get on my feet a bit more but yes your right the area presidency should have up to date security and opportunity information |
| 10:43.25 | klys | anyone who graduates high school and wants to attend at a china normal university campus, according to a recent headline, has to "wax eloquient about xi jingping's philosophy" in an essay. |
| 10:43.56 | Jantz | like the one belt thingy? |
| 10:44.10 | klys | I don't know, is one belt a chinese law? |
| 10:44.44 | klys | is it xi jingping? I'm not too amiliar with him. |
| 10:45.00 | Jantz | laws would be involved |
| 10:45.17 | Jantz | im not entirely sure myself |
| 10:45.41 | klys | the recent moves toward containment of china are also possible indicators of unrest. |
| 10:45.58 | klys | like, the tarriffs |
| 10:46.20 | Jantz | but i see the one belt one road policy is good economically |
| 10:47.03 | Jantz | i dont think theyre that major just little squeaks |
| 10:48.14 | klys | I'm not sure. I think the best things economically are decentralized supervision, competition, personal security, voluntary participation, and private property. those are the things that lead towards profit. |
| 10:49.28 | klys | how is it in new zealand? do you have those kinds of freedoms there? |
| 10:50.09 | Jantz | not market dominance, cheap labour, stealing intellectual property?lol |
| 10:50.44 | klys | cheap labor is warned about in the scriptures. "ye beat my people to pieces", etc. |
| 10:51.43 | Jantz | book of mormon? this is the best discussion ive had in a long time nice to meet you klys |
| 10:51.49 | klys | sure |
| 10:52.13 | klys | you can search for scriptures at https://www.lds.org/scriptures/?lang=eng |
| 10:52.39 | klys | that one was an Isaiah verse, Isaiah 3:15 |
| 10:52.48 | Jantz | yes we are protected here in NZ but China is weighin in |
| 10:54.39 | klys | does new zealand have a fairly cosmopolitan population? |
| 10:55.13 | klys | I mean, can you find people from other places there? |
| 10:56.00 | Jantz | you can but theres a feeling of unease toward indians |
| 10:57.08 | klys | whenever I see the word `indians' I think `natives,' though I'm sure you meant folks from places like mumbai |
| 10:58.36 | Jantz | but there are a few nationalities all the same but itd be nothing compared to the US were only a smidgeon of your average city it feels like yes not the reds |
| 10:59.28 | klys | :) we have a lot of nationalities in the local student population here. |
| 11:00.26 | Jantz | is it kliss or klice? |
| 11:00.36 | klys | the first |
| 11:01.09 | Jantz | are you m or f can i also ask your age im m 33 |
| 11:01.16 | klys | I'm male at 39 |
| 11:04.48 | Jantz | nice chatting klys very constructive enthusiastic well for me anyways type of chat you come a dime a dozen theres so much crap on the net these days truly is a blessing to be chatting with you gonna head off but i might take you up on that offer someday if your keen to setitup anyways take care and |
| 11:04.48 | Jantz | hope to see you again sometime |
| 11:04.48 | klys | are you chatting elsewhere? |
| 11:05.02 | Jantz | actually going for a smoke sorry |
| 11:05.09 | klys | oh well see you! |
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| 23:43.50 | pedfan | can i arrange visit in public place to get book of mormon |
