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| 15:30.24 | orange_ | I often think the java programming language became popular in large part due to a trendy coffee-related name |
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| 15:33.05 | Pimpinella | orange: i second that |
| 15:34.06 | Pimpinella | barely ever got a java program working without hassle |
| 15:34.09 | Pimpinella | if at all |
| 15:35.42 | orange | yeah, I'm not a java programmer, but when I try to hack on existing stuff I end up frustrated |
| 15:36.31 | orange | there's a large barrier to entry with all the tools... "oh, you want to use this? No problem, just install these 47 compiler tools and configure them all, then you'll be all set" |
| 15:43.50 | BulletCatcher | Java promised a shiny new level of portability and security, and became entrenched before people realized that it was little (if any) better than other languages in meeting those goals. |
| 16:56.23 | ndim | It was better in a lot of ways, but back then not many people had seen languages other than C, so for them it was an improvement. |
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