IRC log for ##kierra on 20091108

01:09.47Jossany GU admins here?
01:10.07JossI guess baddy is sleeping
01:10.14Jossconstitution?
01:11.11JossConstitution: Your GU admin powers could be used right now at Quol:58
01:13.48Josshm, Constitution must be sleeping
01:31.04ndimInteresting talks on Javascript at http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/
01:31.16ndimThe JSON talk is good for general geek entertainment.
01:31.40mvironsends ndim stuff
01:34.32ndimAnd Doug Crockford generally is recommended listening on Javascript & Co
01:34.53mvironndim: evening
01:39.53ndimsends mviron a leftover Dampfnudel
01:39.57ndimevening mviron
01:40.10mvironhow's it going?
01:56.23bradJoss: ahhhhh now I see it ;) (im a bit slow @ reading)
01:56.36Jossheh, no problem brad
01:57.50mvironsends brad and Joss to the beach
01:58.05bradbeach?! its freezing!
01:58.20mvironnah
01:58.29mvironfreezing would be below 32
01:58.49bradwhats that in normal measurements? (Celsius)
01:58.52brad:)
01:59.19mviron0 C
01:59.24bradheh
01:59.32Jossyou send me to the beach with brad?
01:59.50bradyou're a lucky guy, joss
01:59.51Jossdo you think brad can look after me with all those dangerous people that lurk at the beach?
02:00.02mvironlol
02:00.22JossI have to check with kierra if im allowed to brad
02:00.31Joss;)
02:00.44brad~lart Joss
02:00.44purlgives Joss a good seeing to
02:01.13Jossaw, sounds to me like you didnt even want to take me to the beach anyway brad
02:01.31bradperhaps not at 2am..
02:01.44bradwhat time is it there?
02:01.49mviron8:02 pm
02:02.22bradah
02:03.04Joss15:03 here
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11:06.05kierrahi joss
11:16.45kierrayawn*
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11:37.20gorgomolmorning all
11:44.34kierrahi g
11:46.26ndim~coffee kierra
11:46.26purlACTION steals some of kierra's special coffee and gives it to kierra on a silver platter.
12:11.52kierra~tea ndim
12:11.53purlACTION realizes it's time for high tea and gets busy in the kitchen.  He brings out tea, crumpets, scones and an assortment of delectable goodies and serves them properly to ndim and others
12:11.58kierraty ndimmo :)
12:12.35ndim:)
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14:11.24kierra~coffee ep
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14:15.40kierra~lart catay
14:15.40purlwhips out a sword and chops catay in half
14:16.15kierra~BulletCatcher++
15:01.11gn00biekierra: since you are a yankees fan
15:01.13gn00bie~pamper kierra
15:01.14purlACTION towels kierra dry, puts talcum powder on kierra's butt, and puts kierra in a fresh clean pair of Pampers(TM)!
15:19.22Valumziekierra: ping :)
15:34.31gn00bieValumzie: thanksgiving is shaping up to be the move to detroit week
15:35.07Valumziegn00bie: bummer!
15:35.15Valumzieit would have been fun to have you around :)
15:35.30ValumzieI guess it means we will have to come visit you in Detroit some time ;)
15:35.37gn00bieso how does advanced old age feel like?
15:36.00gn00bieValumzie: you are always welcome :) (not sure why you would want to visit detroit though - Chicago I understand)
15:36.15gn00bieDetroit is just like atlanta - urban sprawl without rhyme or reason
15:36.39ValumzieWill you be living in Detroit?
15:36.43gn00bieexcept that you will find a gn00bie in Troy instead of an orange in Athens
15:36.51Valumzielol
15:36.57gn00bieValumzie: no, the northern suburbs, probably Troy :P
15:37.07Valumzie:P
15:37.12Valumziethat is where we shall go, then :P
15:37.34gn00bieand god knows I cannot fill orange's shoes, so Detroit is just like atlanta, with crappier roads, crappier winters, and crappier engineers :P
15:37.45Valumzie:)
15:38.53gn00bieactually we are headed out to Troy for all of this week
15:38.54ndimWell, the latter will change once you have moved there
15:39.15gn00bieI will have business to take care of all week, DoDa will go look at some apartments/condos/houses
15:39.52gn00biendim: nah, I am no counterbalance to orange's massive mass(?)
15:40.31gn00biethe good news is - the GTO is all paid off, and it will be easier to get the car emissions certified in Michigan than NYS after the supercharger
15:40.55ndimSupercharger?
15:41.15gn00biendim: 500 ps at the wheels is the target
15:41.22ndimWell, as a consequence of that, it appears to be easier go get the gn00bie certiefied as MAD!!! in Michigan as well
15:41.29gn00biebut funds will take 18 months or so to accumulate
15:41.37ndim(capital letters and three exclamation marks)
15:41.39gn00bieit is currently 350 ps at the wheels
15:42.21ndimgn00bie: Uhm, seriously... what will that be for?
15:42.28gn00biendim: Michigan has no emissions requirements at all for a car to be road legal, I can even pull out the Catalytic converters and replace them with straight pipes if I wanted to :P
15:42.30ndim350 is more than enough
15:42.56ndimgn00bie: And what happens if you drive a michigan registered car to, say, NYS?
15:43.15gn00biendim: nothing, as long as your car is legal in your home state, you are good to go anywhere
15:43.28gn00bieunless it is belching out smoke like a soviet Lada
15:43.40gn00bie350 is more than enough, but so is 500 :P
15:43.48ndimgets gn00bie a 1961 Merc Unimog with a 6 cylinder 80PS gasoline engine.
15:43.57gn00bieas Marlon Brando said - I love the smell of overkill in the morning
15:44.12gn00biea Mog!!!! I would gladly take it!!!!!
15:44.42ndimcertified v_max is 62kph (it needs to be > 60kph to be allowed to use the Autobahn :)
15:45.07gn00biendim: nothing some gears and forced induction cannot fix
15:45.36gn00bieI am confident we can get the Mog upto 80 kph capable without any real problems
15:45.38ndimgn00bie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gMil7e4AwQ
15:46.21gn00bieis this a german soldier, or a german redneck?
15:47.03gn00bieor both?
15:47.07ndimNon-German redneck.
15:47.50gn00bieI see
15:48.08gn00biepolish redneck?
15:48.19gn00bieor is the redneck a redundant term?
15:49.03ndimgn00bie: I have driven that Unimog series with a large radio container box on the back at ~100kph (downhill).
15:49.08ndimNot really recommended.
15:49.32ndimAt everything about 60kph, you'd need to adapt the suspension - and you don't want that.
15:50.05ndimThat 100kph ride was just a hair's breadth before catastrophe.
15:50.18gn00bieI see
15:50.39gn00bieso we will need an adaptive suspension in addition to powertrain mods
15:50.53gn00biedoes the thing have swaybars?
15:50.56ndimBTW, the engine also runs with a few ignition cables confused and clogged up carburator.
15:51.17gn00biewe will put a Cummins 6BT in
15:51.27ndimI did that over a distance of about 100km.
15:51.58ndimWhich sucked the 100 liters of gasoline from the tank before I got there.
15:52.11gn00bieCummins 6BT makes 350 hp and 1000 Nm torque bone stock in Dodge applications
15:52.18ndim1.1 liter per km or something like that.
15:52.31gn00bie!!!! 1.1 kmpl?
15:52.45ndimgn00bie: You can't get that on the road sensibly. You'll lose all the off-road capability.
15:52.45gn00biethat sounds like 40 ton tractor trailer fuel economy!
15:53.02ndimWell, "a few ignition cables confused and a clogged up carburator".
15:53.30gn00biendim: there are ways to do it right, a Cayenne turbo with 500 hp is also good offroad
15:54.03gn00biewith the proper tires of course
15:54.09ndimMaintenance people said "carburator clogged, we can't fix it", and permutated the ignition cables while at it.
15:54.26ndimLieutenant said "drive it home, then", so I did.
15:54.52ndimgn00bie: Cayenne cannot be Unimog-like good offroad.
15:55.35gn00biendim: no, it cannot be, but power and offroad capability need not be mutually exclusive
15:55.46ndimThey usually are, though.
15:55.57gn00bieimagine what a 500 hp 1600 Nm Unimog could do in 30 to 70 kph acceleration?
15:56.17ndimIt would dig in, that's what it would do.
15:56.36gn00biean "off road mode" would make the throttle really lazy, dial the power down
15:56.40ndimBTW, the newer military Mogs have a really intersting feature: They put airpressure on all the drivetrain in 4WD mode, so when driving in water, no water can go in.
15:56.43gn00biewe could change the low range gear ratio
15:56.57gn00bieah, pressurized powertrain components, good good
15:56.59ndimFull throttle at slow walking pace rules.
15:57.20gn00biewhat kind of power do the newer Mogs make?
15:57.37ndimgn00bie: Well, they have sinced gotten rid of the pressurized power train. Too expensive, and not enough benefits.
15:57.56ndim130 to 170 bhp like.
15:58.00gn00bieI see
15:58.05ndimDiesel.
15:58.08gn00bieso much better than the 62
15:58.32gn00biehumm, uncle Rudolph's engine - that probably also means 500 Nm torque or better
15:58.40ndimBTW... that old one has no power steering. And hydraulic drum brakes.
15:58.43ndimLots of fun.
15:58.53gn00biehydraulic drum brakes are fun :P
15:59.05ndimUnless you need to stop, yes.
15:59.06gn00bieespecially with what that thing has to weigh, 4 tons?
15:59.13gn00bieempty?
15:59.19ndimThereabouts, yes.
15:59.43ndimI once did some close quarters parking.
15:59.53ndimMy arms gave up about half-way.
16:00.11gn00bieI see
16:00.15ndimmaster sgt had to do the rest of the parking.
16:00.23gn00bieyeah, parking that thing without power steering does not sound like fun
16:00.40gn00bieeven though the steering box mechanical advantage is probably 35:1
16:00.51gn00biemost normal cars run 15:1 or so
16:01.16ndimBTW, the thing has a cool feature... when you need to start it up and it is REALLY cold.
16:01.25gn00bieand also the steering wheel was also huge, maybe 45 cm diameter?
16:02.13ndimYou can remove the auxiliary heater from the container's roof, steer all the way to the right, and then put the aux heater into a special tube below the radiator grill, to heat up the engine before starting.
16:02.27ndimMore like 55cm.
16:02.57gn00bieso the Mog is like an F1 car? :P
16:03.08ndimAlmost.
16:03.11gn00biethough in F1 car you feed the engine heated oil
16:03.15gn00bieso a little different
16:03.38ndimNormal startup worked (proven!) at -20 degC.
16:04.31gn00bieso this enhanced startup procedure is probably for -55C conditions one might encounter say in the Soviet Union?
16:04.38ndimI guess the special aux heater procedure was designed for -40 degC on the next campaign against Russia or something like that.
16:04.44gn00biehehe
16:05.11BulletCatcher"Never get involved in a land war in Asia."
16:05.24ndimOr when your engine oil is not properly specced mineral oil but pork lard.
16:05.37gn00bieit is pork lard at -55 C
16:06.11gn00bieor wait a minute, pork lard has been used as engine oil?
16:06.24mvironsends gn00bie to visit ndim
16:06.32gn00biethere is no way that pork lard will have the shear capability of a proper engine oil
16:06.44ndimWell... you take what you can get.
16:07.40gn00bietrue
16:07.45ndimAnyway... I loved driving those things.
16:08.14ndimThose 100km with the misplaced ignition wires and clogged up carburator were real fun.
16:08.16gn00bieare you telling me you will not love driving a 550 hp car with a 6 speed stick that weighs under 2 tons? :P
16:09.00ndimgn00bie: I won't feel much difference between 250hp and 550hp, so I don't care about it.
16:09.17gn00biendim: you do not feel the difference till 100 kph or so
16:09.19ndimgn00bie: I guess I am more the James May type of driver.
16:09.35mvironzaps ndim and gn00bie
16:09.39gn00biebut there is a lot of difference between a Gallardo and the GTO between 100 kph and 200 kph
16:09.39ndimMore technique than power&speed.
16:09.55gn00bieI know that from experience, unfortunately I was the one who came to a gunfight with a knife
16:10.07ndimHaha.
16:11.15BulletCatchergn00bie: What model year is your GTO? (I just want to visualize it properly.)
16:11.33mvironsends BulletCatcher to visit gn00bie
16:12.15gn00bieBulletCatcher: it is a Hillbilly Holden (i.e. 2006 GTO)
16:12.45BulletCatcherThanks.
16:12.55gn00biendim: someone I sort of know just bought I SL65 AMG Black
16:13.23ndim... Football, meat pies, kangaroos and Holden cars ...
16:13.39ndimgn00bie: Insane bugger.
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16:14.05gn00biendim: doctor who will never got WOT on the thing I am sure
16:14.16ndimWOT?
16:14.24gn00bieWide Open Throttle
16:14.24ndimAh.
16:14.43ndimWell, from what one is reading, you cannot use WOT on the thing anyway.
16:15.14ndimAnd you can't turn worth a damn either. The wheels are so big they only turn a minute amount.
16:15.22ndimHmm... well...
16:15.33ndimOK, you could compensate that deficiency with WOT.
16:16.38gn00bie:D
16:16.40ndimApropos... 7 days, 4 hours, 43 minutes, and 23 seconds until the next season of Top Gear starts on November 15th.
16:16.57gn00bieyou could, except you cannot turn the electronic nannies off I am sure
16:17.39gn00bieok now DoDa is shaking her fists at me
16:17.40gn00bieso later
16:17.44ndiml8r
16:38.52mvironndim: pong
16:49.59ndimmviron: pang
16:50.17ndimhands mviron a soggy leftover Dampfnudel
16:53.42mvironnah
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22:50.13ndimWho wants a piece of cheese cake? The recipe is courtesy of my mom's cousin's wife, and it is delicious.
22:50.20ndimhas purl hand out pieces of cheese cake
23:03.26kierraloves cheesecake
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