IRC log for ##kierra on 20081227

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12:50.32cataypoor ndim :P
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12:56.22ashvalaHello!
12:56.30Manuwelcome ashvala
12:56.38ashvalaty manu
12:57.04ashvalamanu: do you know any spanish speedcubers you can put me in touch with
12:58.32Manuashvala: speedcubers?
12:58.53ashvalamanu: fast cube solvers
12:58.55Manulike tubks and suck?
12:58.59Manusuch? :)
12:59.06Manurubik..
12:59.13ashvalarubik
12:59.18ashvalaobviously!
12:59.42Manuno, I used to solve it when I was younger ;)
12:59.50ashvala:)
12:59.52Manuit was a trivial task ;)
13:00.05ashvalacould you solve it in 30 seconds then?
13:00.14Manuonce you know how to sove it it's bored :)
13:00.23Manuit depends
13:00.30ashvalaIt is not boring
13:00.37ashvalaI get to learn more & more
13:00.58ManuI was very fast solving it, but it was long time ago
13:01.10ashvalacan you remember anything?
13:01.34Manuthere were a few rules about how to to the things
13:01.40Manubut I don't recall it now :(
13:01.42ashvalalike
13:01.46ashvalabah
13:01.48ashvalanvm
13:01.59ManuIIRC there were four basic rules
13:02.22ashvalaah those
13:02.25ashvalai know
13:02.33ashvalaCross, F2L, OLL, PLL
13:02.40Manuyes
13:02.52ashvalaThe fridrich CFOP system
13:03.16Manudunno, as I said it was long time ago... (more than 25-30 years ago)
13:03.24ashvalaow
13:03.45ashvaladid you memorize some 50 moves for oll then?
13:04.04Manuthere were a rubik cube fever alike in those ages
13:04.19ashvalaI spread the fever to my school :D
13:04.30Manuashvala: I knew had all those moves in my memory, but I forgot it
13:04.40ashvalamanu: k
13:04.45Manuand other moves made by myself ;)
13:04.55ashvalawow
13:05.05ashvalayou are not lars petrus :)
13:05.20Manuno, I was only a kid :-p
13:05.29ashvala:)
13:05.52Manuafter the cube there was another game, it was like made of pyramids
13:06.01Manumade by the rubik inventor
13:06.03ashvalaPyraminx
13:06.13Manuhe said it was difficult, but in fact it was easier ;)
13:06.37ashvalasure thing, Erno Rubik found it tough :)
13:06.40Manuthe first day I touched it, I solved it.. in not too much time ;)
13:07.05ashvaladid u take part in any touney manu?
13:07.50Manuno, there weren't touneys close to me
13:07.58ashvalaah
13:08.37ashvalaMy dad says, If i make the cube solved in 20 seconds, Barcelona tourney is on the cards!
13:08.51Manu:)
13:09.55Manuashvala: looking in internet, it wasn pyraminx, the puzzle I talk ablut was made of transparent parts with colors
13:10.12Manulinked with nylon cord
13:10.23ashvalaRubiks Magic?
13:10.31Manudunno. lemme check
13:11.14Manuclose to it
13:11.30Manubut with triangles instead of squeres
13:11.36ashvalamaster magic?
13:11.37Manusquares*
13:12.41Manunot sure
13:12.57ashvaladoesnt look like
13:13.05ashvalait
13:13.06ashvalais
13:13.22ashvalahttp://facts.messengers.com.au/uploaded_images/rubiks-magic-714690.png
13:13.23Manuthey said it was very difficult to solve it but I discovered an important move m aking it easy
13:13.43ashvalais the method now called manu method?
13:13.52ashvala:)
13:13.54Manuheh
13:14.37Manuashvala: manu is only my bzflag nick ;)
13:14.48ashvalaheh
13:16.06Manuashvala: and in those times, no internet ;)
13:16.22ashvalamanu: i know. Books
13:16.45Manuashvala: nor books about those things ;)
13:17.01Manuonly you and your imagination
13:17.01ashvalabrain :)
13:17.37Manuashvala: now you use IRC easy.. when I was a kid, had to write my own chat program
13:17.52Manufor the IBM pc (in BASIC)
13:18.06Manuchatting at 300 bauds ;)
13:18.22Manuusing those old analogic phone lines
13:18.49ashvalawow many\u
13:18.51ashvalamanu
13:19.00ashvalayou chose the nick
13:19.13ashvalabecause you are a fan of man united?
13:19.24Manueven for the sinclair zx-81 I had to write my own games ;)
13:19.40ashvaladeveloper manu
13:19.41Manuashvala: mano is a short from Manuel, a common spanish name
13:19.48ashvalak
13:19.50Manuashvala: I'm a developer ;)
13:20.05ashvala:)
13:21.18ManuI used to repair tv and electronic machines to earn money when I was a kid ;)
13:21.29ashvalamanu the billionaire
13:21.57Manuashvala: who want to be rich?
13:22.05ashvalano rich
13:22.24Manuwell, I have all I want and all I need
13:22.40Manumone is only to waste it
13:22.48ashvalayou dev Pnuts?
13:22.54Manuthere are more important things than money
13:23.01ashvalai know
13:23.02Manuashvala: heh ;)
13:23.28Manuashvala: yes, I also use Pnuts
13:23.39Manufor scripting
13:23.42ashvalak
13:23.55ashvalais it java based?
13:24.14Manuit runs in the JVM
13:24.28ashvalaJava Virtual Machine...
13:24.32Manuand you can use Java clases even generate it in the fly in a transparent way
13:24.41Manuclasses* (damn loag)
13:24.42ashvalaoh
13:24.45Manulag*
13:24.52ashvala:)
13:24.57ashvalai always lag
13:24.59ManuPnuts was created to test java ;)
13:25.06ashvalacause of my location
13:25.15ManuI lag cause my kids
13:26.06Manuprobably I must ban them ;)
13:26.18ashvalawhat are their callsigns?
13:26.26Manuthey don't use IRC
13:26.31ashvalabzflag irc
13:26.34ashvalasry
13:26.35Manuthey are downloading....
13:26.38ashvalabzflag callsigns?
13:26.49Manuthey use a lot of callsigns
13:26.58ashvalazwerg?
13:27.05Manuno :)
13:27.11ashvalacallsigns like?
13:27.18ashvala(the one of gu league if any)
13:27.24Manujules, davidd
13:27.42Manuno, they don't play league
13:27.52ashvalai suggest they do
13:27.54ashvalait is good
13:30.49Manuyes, bzflag is funny
13:32.05Manuashvala: I actually use Freepascal and Java for developing
13:32.24ManuPOS and finnancial applications
13:32.35ashvalamanu: I use C++, some python, occasional perl for deving
13:33.05Manuashvala: I also use c++ but I don't like it too much
13:33.22Manupython is funny but too slow for my needs ;)
13:33.33ManuI used perl years ago
13:33.35ashvalamanu: see nodebox
13:33.41ashvalahttp://nodebox.org
13:34.47Manuashvala: well, what do you mean? python is even used in blend, but it's slow for my needs
13:35.02Manuand not so easy to distribute to the end user
13:35.03ashvalait is what i use for gui
13:35.15ManuI use pygtk and wxpython
13:35.43Manuand kinterbasdb because my prefered db is firebird ;)
13:37.39Manuashvala: I develop for linux and windows so fpc and java fits my needs
13:38.28Manudeveloping with c++ is a bit slow ;)
13:38.54ashvalaah
14:04.09ashvalawheres kierra?
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14:07.14Manu~seen ki
14:07.16purlki <n=tit@cpc1-flee1-0-0-cust387.glfd.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 278d 21h 48m 24s ago, saying: 'mostly logic though'.
14:07.17Manu~seen kierra
14:07.17purlkierra <n=jolie@c-98-230-5-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel ##kierra, 2d 59m 44s ago, saying: 'cu sweetie'.
14:07.41ashvalashe hasnt been here in 2 days
14:24.02Valumzieshe was here yesterday :P
15:40.36catayashvala wasn't :)
15:46.40catayhopefully i didn't scare him :P
16:18.31gn00biehopefully you did
16:18.34gn00bie~catay++
16:23.42ValumzieI hope you did, catay :)
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16:31.27cataybut .. but .. but i don't wanna scare little Indians :p
16:31.55catayI wish i was scary for the big ones
16:32.01cataylooks at gn00bie
16:32.35Valumziewho is sammyh?
16:32.44Valumzieoh
16:32.48catayi was just about going to ask the same :P
16:32.52Valumzieits meno!
16:32.54ValumzieI think
16:32.58catayreally ?
16:33.05Valumziepa.comcast
16:33.12Valumziephiladephia
16:33.25catayor maybe a replacement :)
16:33.27Valumzieand he sent me a message last night saying: "Ok, where is she?! :P"
16:33.31Valumzieso it would make sense :D
16:33.40Valumziewe have to keep him next time he comes in :)
16:33.57cataykeeps the ductape ready
16:34.17*** topic/##kierra by Valumzie -> Welcome: ||Never lie, steal, cheat, or drink. But if you must lie, lie in the arms of the one you love. If you must steal, steal away from bad company. If you must cheat, cheat death. And if you must drink, drink in the moments that take your breath away.|| Merry Christmas!! || ñ || sammyh, you better stay longer than 4 minutes :P
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16:41.28gn00biecatay: you do not scare me :P Nels OTOH....
16:42.45Valumziegn00bie: beware, Nels is in Nyack :P
16:44.15gn00bieeeek!
16:44.18gn00biehides
16:44.58ValumzieI know, very scary
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18:38.06cataygn00bie: you are also a vi(m) user yes?
18:39.46cataygn00bie: try out http://vimperator.org/trac/wiki/Vimperator :)
18:40.12Valumziegn00bie: when is DoDa flying in?
18:40.38catayit will increase your geekiness factor to incredible high heights :)
18:44.08gn00bieValumzie: monday evening
18:44.19gn00biecatay: lemme check it out, yes I am a vi(m) user
18:44.55gn00biecatay: looks seriously cool, have you been using it?
18:45.11cataysince today :P
18:45.17gn00biehow is it?
18:45.24catayit's great
18:45.42gn00bieI will give it a spin once DoDa gets here - so that my computer is safe and she has to use her computer :P
18:45.50catayi love navigation with the j/k/.. keys
18:46.18cataybut it can do a lot more
18:46.42gn00biethey have an irc channel on freenode!
18:46.51catayheh
18:46.59catayeverybody has these days :P
18:47.21catayisn't there a ##gn00bie yet???
18:47.33catayregisters it :P
18:47.40gn00bienope, no ##gn00bie
18:47.47gn00bieis there a ##catay?
18:47.53catayhow knows :P
18:47.56cataywho knows :P
18:48.04gn00bie<PROTECTED>
18:48.14gn00biethere is!
18:48.40cataylol, ssst , it's a secret :P
18:50.05gn00biesssh
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19:05.56ndimitrijyawns
19:05.59ndimitrijevening, everyone
19:09.31gn00biecomrade, evening
19:18.59brad.
19:19.22gn00bie..
19:19.56ndimitrij...
19:30.28Valumzie.../
19:32.06ndimitrijyou broke the chain!
19:33.16gn00bie!!!!
19:38.45gn00bie./Valumzie
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20:13.44ndimHmm. So far, so good...
20:14.01ndimitrijndim: Yup, you git.
20:18.00ndimitrijHmm.
20:18.04ndimitrijHMM.
20:18.11ndimitrijGreat.
20:18.30ndimitrijNow it is hanging again.
20:18.31*** join/##kierra ndim (i=hun@moooo.n-dimensional.de)
20:19.17ndimitrijndim: Wake up!
20:23.10ndimitrijndim: Wake up!
20:23.13ndimitrijNow!
20:24.45cataywhich drugs are you on ? :P
20:27.29ndimMoo.
20:27.31ndimHmm.
20:27.33ndimFunny.
20:27.36ndimVery funny.
20:27.38ndimNOT!
20:27.47catayhi ndim :P
20:27.51catayeverything ok ?
20:27.52ndimitrijHi catay
20:28.05ndimitrijNo. Stupid network stuff on my shell host.
20:28.29ndimitrijHow are you?
20:28.32catayyup, that can be annoying :P
20:28.33ndimitrijHigh on beer?
20:28.38cataynot really :)
20:28.39catayi'm ok
20:28.40ndimitrij:)
20:29.03catayplaying around with the vimperator!
20:29.11ndimitrijThe what?
20:29.23catayhttp://vimperator.org/trac/wiki/Vimperator
20:29.39catayprolbaby nothing for you as you are an emacs lover iirc :P
20:30.41ndimitrijYour madness certificate is up for renewal? :)
20:31.00catay:P
20:33.21ndimHmm. This appears some stupid ARP issue.
20:34.32ndimTest?
20:35.53cataytest failed
20:36.32catayping timeout
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20:44.13ndimitrijhmm?
20:44.22ndimitrijndim: ping?
20:45.51cataylooks like ndim has a split personality problem, half german , half russian :P
21:14.09ndimitrijmeh
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21:25.54Valumziegn00bie: :P
21:26.04Valumziecatay: Im a lil worried about ndim
21:26.09Valumziewell, a lil more than usual, I guess
21:47.59ndimHmm.
21:48.03ndimI'm flattered.
21:48.18ndimitrijOh my.
21:48.44ndimitrijLooks like there is a real chance I'll become an uncle some time in 2009.
21:53.35Valumzieoh?!
21:53.39Valumziecongrats!!!!
21:55.08gn00bie!!!!stargnoc
21:55.25Valumzie~gn00bie++
21:57.26ndimitrijIt's not quite in that stage yet... they're still just threatening me :)
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21:57.36Valumzielol
21:58.56ndimitrijndim: moo
22:04.33ndimMeh!
22:05.46ndimitrijndim: You're alive!
22:06.14ndimitrijMan... this is so broken.
22:06.33ndimVBarely....
22:12.52catayValumzie: no need to be worried, germans/russians are strong people :P
22:12.57cataykicks ndim
22:13.00cataysee :P
22:13.51ndimcrumples
22:13.57ndimdissolves to dust
22:16.14ndimHmm.
22:16.42ndimitrijOK, I think I have found the issue.
22:16.45catayoh my, dilemma, Van Helsing (with Kate Beckingsale) or Solaris
22:16.58catayKate vs spaceships
22:17.13cataythink i'm gonna go for the spaceships :D
22:17.23catayi have to take george clooney with it
22:17.26ndimitrijThe alternative is too frustrating.
22:17.52gn00bieKate Beckinsale of course
22:18.03gn00bieI have solaris DVD, never watched it though
22:18.16catayi've probably already seen it
22:18.20cataycan't remember :p
22:18.36catayin januray there will be a new Underworld movie
22:18.38cataywith Kate :)
22:18.45catayi loved the Underworld movies
22:19.58gn00biecatay: maybe you should do something about your love for Kate
22:22.01cataydo what? :P
22:22.04cataywhat love?
22:22.06cataywhere who when ?
22:22.07catay:p
22:22.21gn00bieyou love Kate :P
22:22.58catayif you wanna read a good book : Minimal Perl For Unix and Linux People :P
22:23.25gn00biedon't change the topic
22:23.25cataycontains really some good basic perl stuff that can boost up productivity for all day takss
22:23.28cataytasks :P
22:23.44cataygn00bie: hush :P
22:24.46gn00bie:P
22:24.47cataygn00bie: there is only one person i love and it's not Kate :D
22:24.58gn00biecatay: who is that one person?
22:25.07catayit's a secret :P
22:25.40gn00biecatay: is the person on our list?
22:25.47gn00bieoh my god, you love Nancy Pelosi?
22:25.58catayi don't know who is on the list :P
22:26.00gn00biecatay: bad choice bad choice
22:26.06catayanyway, gtg, movie time :D
22:26.21catayi'll leave you with your curiosity :D
22:26.29gn00bie:D
22:26.34gn00bie~shave catay
22:26.34purlACTION grabs the razor & shaving cream & chases catay until he sees TheRedBaron... then grabs TheRedbaron & dry shaves TheRedBaron from head to toe!
22:26.37gn00bie~lart catay
22:26.37purlturns catay into a lifesized tux doll
22:26.41catay:)
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23:13.23ndimitrijMuhahaha: < jlouis> most php programmers are cargo culters
23:13.29ndimitrijSo true.
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23:41.50ndimitrijpaints quantumdot dayglo orange
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