| 00:00.11 | Valumzie | gn00bie: I totally agree with you on Obama's naivety in relation to foreign politics |
| 00:00.11 | gn00bie | and last but not the least, I find myself more closely aligned to McCain on abortion issues |
| 00:00.11 | Winny | so are quite a few republican supporters I bet |
| 00:00.30 | Valumzie | catay: thats why coffee was invented |
| 00:00.31 | gn00bie | now, let me her anything you might have to say about the energy and foriegn policy |
| 00:00.36 | Winny | there are quite a few doozies on each side |
| 00:00.45 | gn00bie | and please don't tell me to grow up, I am grown up enough |
| 00:00.48 | catay | gn00bie: i was not referring to the law, but to the doctors absent note :P |
| 00:01.05 | gn00bie | Winny: and we can agree that there are dopes on both sides, but dopiness of the other side is not an excuse to act like a dope |
| 00:01.22 | gn00bie | catay: I can write you a note, not sure if your boss will accept it :P |
| 00:01.24 | catay | jeez, you guys talk too much, can't follow the conversation anymore :P |
| 00:01.35 | Valumzie | hands catay some coffee |
| 00:01.42 | catay | ty :P |
| 00:01.45 | gn00bie | catay: roflmao, sorry, yeah doctor note = $1 in India |
| 00:02.53 | catay | heh |
| 00:03.26 | catay | well, still 2 days to go , and you people will have to look for a different topic to discuss :P |
| 00:03.47 | gn00bie | catay: oh we will talk about how the election was "stolen" for two weeks after that |
| 00:03.53 | catay | rofl |
| 00:04.01 | gn00bie | then one group of us or the other will start saying "told you so" |
| 00:04.06 | gn00bie | and life will go on |
| 00:04.22 | catay | mine will for sure :) |
| 00:04.30 | catay | work work work |
| 00:04.41 | catay | ok, i go to bed |
| 00:04.51 | TheRedBaron | gnight catay :) |
| 00:04.52 | catay | i wanna look a bit decent in a few hours :P |
| 00:04.59 | catay | nite folks :) |
| 00:05.00 | TheRedBaron | impossible ;) |
| 00:05.05 | gn00bie | catay: that is a tall order |
| 00:05.08 | gn00bie | as tall as Wim |
| 00:05.10 | catay | i know , but i can try :P |
| 00:05.14 | gn00bie | you != decent |
| 00:05.21 | catay | pfft :P |
| 00:05.25 | gn00bie | :P |
| 00:05.26 | catay | nite |
| 00:05.30 | catay | really gone now :P |
| 00:05.31 | gn00bie | nite |
| 00:05.34 | catay | zzZZZzz |
| 00:06.16 | gn00bie | TG DL done! |
| 00:06.28 | Flash | ~gn00bie++ |
| 00:06.35 | Flash | underestimated the little guy |
| 00:08.06 | gn00bie | Flash: I am not little by any stretch of imagination :P |
| 00:08.10 | Flash | ;-) |
| 00:08.11 | gn00bie | thanks for the ++ though |
| 00:08.27 | Flash | you are small in the linear passage of time |
| 00:08.42 | gn00bie | true, I am but a blink of an eye |
| 00:08.57 | TheRedBaron | is more like a fart in the winds of time :P |
| 00:08.58 | Flash | it is the perquisite of the old to refer to the young in the diminuitive |
| 00:09.03 | gn00bie | what did you underestimate me in though, I am a pretty decent engineer |
| 00:09.10 | Flash | smells something in the breeze |
| 00:09.15 | gn00bie | have a few patents, a few pubs, one even made it to a journal! |
| 00:09.44 | Flash | you have a well thought out view on the major issues of the current political climate |
| 00:09.51 | Flash | and I even agree with you for the most part |
| 00:10.02 | Flash | it's so rare in this day and time |
| 00:10.16 | Flash | we choose instead to devolve to the sound bite |
| 00:10.21 | gn00bie | Flash: I have to agree with you, it is very rare to see thought out positions in this day and age |
| 00:10.25 | gn00bie | which is sad |
| 00:10.29 | Flash | indeed |
| 00:10.35 | gn00bie | ~blame Winny |
| 00:10.36 | purl | ACTION blames Winny (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 00:10.43 | Flash | I find myself becoming more Jeffersonian... not everyone is qualified to vote |
| 00:10.43 | gn00bie | that was a tad mean :P |
| 00:10.56 | Flash | but a bit aproppos, yes? |
| 00:11.02 | Flash | especially the Canada part ;-) |
| 00:11.26 | gn00bie | Flash: voting is not just a right, it is also a responsibility |
| 00:11.31 | Flash | I mean, blaming ndim and Canada would be silly |
| 00:11.45 | gn00bie | I would not blame ndim for this mess :P |
| 00:11.55 | Flash | I know; I had to push my daughter to vote because it was inconvenient |
| 00:12.15 | Flash | she was succumbing to voter apathy: my vote won't matter anyway... |
| 00:12.29 | gn00bie | Flash: I do not have a TV, my news source is primarily news.google.com and the NPR radio I listen to when I driving to work |
| 00:12.40 | Flash | and she is voting in FLORIDA of all places... where every vote counts, even the not-quite-cast ones |
| 00:12.46 | gn00bie | !!!! |
| 00:12.57 | Flash | correction; she voted this afternoon |
| 00:13.03 | gn00bie | make sure she votes, FL is only next to PA in importance |
| 00:13.45 | gn00bie | Flash: in my opinion, this 24 hour news cycle devolves discourse into one big and never ending shouting match |
| 00:13.56 | TheRedBaron | will probably vote either tomorrow or tuesday |
| 00:14.04 | Flash | TheRedBaron: no voting tomorrow |
| 00:14.15 | Flash | FL early voting must stop 2 days before the election |
| 00:14.19 | TheRedBaron | then tuesday it is |
| 00:14.35 | Flash | had to research this to get the daughter to vote |
| 00:14.52 | TheRedBaron | interesting note though. |
| 00:14.53 | Flash | yes, the polls are most definitely closed today |
| 00:15.31 | TheRedBaron | i have a change of address, and even though I filled out the proper paperwork and mailed it in in aug, Still no updated voter registration card :( |
| 00:15.35 | Flash | gn00bie: regardless of your media outlet, it is unfortunate that the are ALL biased |
| 00:15.47 | TheRedBaron | might end up voting in his old precinct |
| 00:15.47 | gn00bie | Flash: true |
| 00:16.06 | Flash | TheRedBaron: that would be sad after waiting in line for 2 hours |
| 00:16.20 | Flash | to have to go to another precinct and wait again |
| 00:16.20 | TheRedBaron | Flash: sad would be under estimating it. |
| 00:16.44 | gn00bie | where did Winny go anyway? |
| 00:16.47 | gn00bie | Winny: ping |
| 00:16.53 | Winny | working on a website |
| 00:17.37 | gn00bie | Winny: you did not try very hard to convince that I am wrong |
| 00:17.49 | ndim | Get up at 4am to be first in line, then. |
| 00:18.04 | gn00bie | ok then, I need to go rustle up some grub, buy some beer |
| 00:18.05 | Winny | everyone's entitled to their own opinions |
| 00:18.09 | gn00bie | and then watch TG |
| 00:18.24 | Winny | and I'd rather work on something that makes me money than argue about something we're both not going to move on |
| 00:18.25 | gn00bie | Winny: true, but not all opinions are right |
| 00:18.28 | ndim | I have just finished watching the truck part a secon dtime. |
| 00:18.54 | gn00bie | Winny: oh, I am open to changing my opinions, if you had rational coherent arguments |
| 00:19.24 | Winny | heh |
| 00:19.35 | ndim | gn00bie: True, and Obama at least appears to consider facts as a basis to decide on, instead of made-up stuff or perceived-in-the-opposite-way stuff like the other camp |
| 00:19.57 | ndim | (And the other camp is proud of that) |
| 00:20.00 | gn00bie | ndim: appears is the operative word |
| 00:20.20 | ndim | gn00bie: Well, appearing proud of ignoring facts... uhmm.... |
| 00:20.37 | ndim | ...might be something to look for in a small town baptist priest, but in a US president... |
| 00:20.41 | ndim | ...not so good. |
| 00:20.52 | gn00bie | ndim: I share your reservations about the opposite camp, but ... |
| 00:21.11 | gn00bie | Obama is too much of a radical to be in the office |
| 00:21.21 | ndim | I have not heard anything radical. |
| 00:21.34 | gn00bie | and McCain has a long enough, and honorable enough track record that I trust him to do the right thing (more than the other guy) |
| 00:21.38 | ndim | Except some B$ from O'Reilly |
| 00:21.59 | gn00bie | ndim: his stance on environmental issues is radical for the US environment |
| 00:22.00 | ndim | gn00bie: Except that McCain has thrown all his honour and track record away during the last few months. |
| 00:22.13 | ndim | I would have voted for the McCain of a year ago. |
| 00:22.22 | ndim | But now... desaster. |
| 00:22.28 | Winny | my friends |
| 00:22.29 | gn00bie | though I guess most of europe would be considered radical environmentalists around here |
| 00:22.39 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: yup :) |
| 00:22.43 | ndim | gn00bie: Yupp. |
| 00:22.44 | Valumzie | gn00bie: I agree :) |
| 00:22.45 | gn00bie | ndim: he ran a disappointing campaign for sure |
| 00:22.56 | gn00bie | he has done the best possible job of shooting himself in the foot |
| 00:22.59 | ndim | And it's time someone woke up and saw reality. |
| 00:24.11 | gn00bie | Obamas "redistribution of wealth" puts him on the radical side of the equation too |
| 00:24.13 | Flash | waits for "the truth is" and Manu to pop in |
| 00:24.14 | ndim | Anyway... I do hope the new president will be determined by counted votes, not appointed by a court. |
| 00:24.48 | Flash | ndim: define "counted" |
| 00:24.52 | gn00bie | oh this will be a clear cut election I think, and I am afraid Obama is going to bring it home with a comfortable majority |
| 00:24.55 | Flash | that's why the court got involved |
| 00:24.57 | ndim | Flash: Yeah, that's the issue. |
| 00:25.29 | Flash | I heard stories (unverified) of voting machines that printed a tape receipt but recorded the opposite votes |
| 00:25.38 | ndim | gn00bie: Uhm. Every piece of tax is redistribution of wealth. And if you see a large part of the population getting poorer (which is a fact)... the goal should indeed be for them to get a larger share of the cake. And whether Warren buffet nets 10% less a year or more will not make him poor. |
| 00:25.51 | ndim | Flash: Voting machines do whatever their programmers want them to do. |
| 00:25.59 | ndim | Regardless of law or morality |
| 00:26.00 | Winny | gn00bie: do you honestly think Obama could do a worse job then busho? |
| 00:26.20 | Flash | Winny: what do you KNOW that Bush has done badly? |
| 00:26.43 | ndim | Well, I'd trust Obama to do a better job of the crisis the Chinese have to be planning for the next president than Bush did. |
| 00:26.50 | gn00bie | Winny: I honestly think that he will do a poor job, now will he be poorer than Bush, I honestly do not know |
| 00:26.55 | Flash | ndim: really? why? |
| 00:27.07 | Winny | Let's see.. two wars that are pointless... all sorts of tax breaks for rich corporations, ignoring katrina, etc... |
| 00:27.10 | ndim | That forded-down navy plane was not handled well at all. |
| 00:27.18 | TheRedBaron | its the chinese fault for the crisis ! |
| 00:27.23 | Flash | Winny: take one at a time |
| 00:27.23 | gn00bie | Winny: you think that the Afghanistan war was pointless? |
| 00:27.26 | TheRedBaron | (woot for new scapegoat) |
| 00:27.30 | Winny | Flash: k |
| 00:27.36 | Winny | two pointless wars |
| 00:27.45 | ndim | TheRedBaron: The Chinese will create some crisis for McCain or Obama. You can bet on that. |
| 00:27.47 | Winny | tax breaks for rich corporations |
| 00:27.50 | Flash | I question the Iraq war, but I don't have access to all the information that led to that decision |
| 00:27.50 | Winny | ignoring katrina |
| 00:27.54 | Winny | k that's one at a time |
| 00:28.04 | Winny | Flash: the WMDs that didn;t exist |
| 00:28.30 | Winny | goes back to website |
| 00:28.34 | TheRedBaron | ndim: I'd trust mccain to deal with the chinese crisis over obama.... |
| 00:28.37 | ndim | Ignoring reports from experts which did not fit the world view, etc. |
| 00:28.48 | gn00bie | ndim: taxation is a complicated issue .. and I my position on taxation is not very well formed |
| 00:28.52 | ndim | TheRedBaron: Both will do better than Bush, that's sure. |
| 00:29.06 | Winny | yeah |
| 00:29.21 | Valumzie | I think either Bush or McCain would surely handle a fictional chinese crisis better than Obama |
| 00:29.27 | TheRedBaron | ndim: bush handled 9/11 poorly ? |
| 00:29.30 | gn00bie | ndim: the crisis is called Darfur, it has been around for a long time, everyone just pretends it does not exist :( |
| 00:30.09 | Valumzie | and not just the US have been treating the Darfur poorly; thats a worldwide poor treatment |
| 00:30.57 | gn00bie | Valumzie: I agree |
| 00:31.15 | gn00bie | someone should be beating the living snot out of the people responsible for Darfur |
| 00:31.23 | gn00bie | and china is at least partially culpable |
| 00:31.26 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: i've got a stick - point me in the right direction ? |
| 00:31.36 | gn00bie | China |
| 00:31.43 | TheRedBaron | is outnumbered |
| 00:31.49 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: do you have a stick too ? |
| 00:31.59 | gn00bie | the other shame is what China has been allowed to get away with in Tibet |
| 00:32.01 | ndim | TheRedBaron: Well, 9/11 itself... no idea. We'll have to see the internal memos. Some people hint that Clinton had put things in place which, properly managed, could have prevented it. But that will be for historians to find out when the records are released in a few decads. |
| 00:32.17 | TheRedBaron | ndim: sure.... |
| 00:32.25 | TheRedBaron | ndim: what about the bombings of 93 ? |
| 00:32.25 | gn00bie | I sometimes wish that Douglas MacArthur had been allowed to nuke Peking |
| 00:33.23 | gn00bie | and the shame of it all is, the chinese military might has been directly funded by the american consumer |
| 00:33.26 | TheRedBaron | ndim: if anyone could have stopped 9/11 - it was clinton in 1993 |
| 00:33.40 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: or Regan in 1980s |
| 00:33.51 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: before my time |
| 00:33.52 | gn00bie | by not training the BinLadens of the world |
| 00:33.59 | gn00bie | you feed a snake, and it will bite |
| 00:34.01 | ndim | Bush definitely managed to fuck up handling the aftermath of 9/11. On 9/12, the whole world (except for a few thousand extremists) were appalled at what had happened and prepared to go a long way in doing something effective and lasting against those idiots. |
| 00:34.39 | ndim | But he managed to find a way to alienate just about anybody, and then screw up his proposed solutions... |
| 00:35.09 | ndim | ...very sad. |
| 00:35.56 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: yea - but what (and for lack of a better word) 'excuse' would we have had in the 80's to go after Mr. Laden ? |
| 00:36.16 | TheRedBaron | whereas in 93 the bombing was a direct attack. |
| 00:36.16 | gn00bie | ndim: I distinctly remember 9/12 - tens of thousands of lives have been lost in India to these extremists and the US always supported Pakistan (the root of a lot of the problems)- and my hope was the US would do something to fix the problem that India had been shouting about for 11 years |
| 00:36.31 | ndim | TheRedBaron: Uhm. The US trained, financed and equipped Bin Laden and his merry men in the 1980s. |
| 00:36.39 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: what excuse was there to train him, to arm him, to give him stingers? |
| 00:36.56 | TheRedBaron | oh duh... I'm forgetting the russian war against the afghans. |
| 00:37.00 | TheRedBaron | my apologies |
| 00:37.07 | TheRedBaron | was a baby then |
| 00:37.15 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: the fact is, you just don't wake up one morning and plan a 9/11, it takes years to put an organization capable of doing it |
| 00:37.20 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: correct |
| 00:37.27 | gn00bie | you a feed a snake, the snake bites |
| 00:37.37 | gn00bie | the snake bites you, boo fucking hoo |
| 00:37.47 | TheRedBaron | had we taken out them in 93 (I'll stick to that date, because I'm not familiar with the politics of the 80's) |
| 00:37.51 | gn00bie | and the fact is CIA put that organization together |
| 00:37.54 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: yea - but let the snake bite you twice ? |
| 00:38.37 | ndim | IN the 1980s the choice probably appeared to be between being stung by a small snake (AlQ) or a large snake (USSR). |
| 00:38.42 | gn00bie | the soviets were always going to collapse under their own weight, all funding BinLaden do was sow the seeds for the USS Cole, the Kenyan Embassy bombings, the 93 bombings, the 9/11 etc |
| 00:39.11 | gn00bie | the CCCP had at least some rationality to it, AlQ gets hold of a nuke, they will use it ASAP |
| 00:39.43 | ndim | And the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as planned and executed will create no hard feelings in those areas at all, I am sure. |
| 00:40.04 | gn00bie | Iraq is a big trainwreck that will take generations to clean up |
| 00:40.15 | ndim | .af as well |
| 00:40.22 | TheRedBaron | I wonder what obama's position is with Israel and what Israelites think of him |
| 00:40.34 | gn00bie | but leaving iraq to itself is akin to leaving Afghanistan to itself after the CCCP collapse |
| 00:40.44 | gn00bie | 10 years later, something will come from there that you wish had not |
| 00:41.00 | TheRedBaron | yea - i agree |
| 00:41.07 | gn00bie | .af trainwreck was created in the 90s, before the current war |
| 00:41.20 | gn00bie | the current war was a chance to clean it up, but... |
| 00:41.30 | gn00bie | and the real problem with .af is Pakistan |
| 00:41.41 | gn00bie | it is a failed state that will not let stability come to the region |
| 00:42.32 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: I like orange's solution the best |
| 00:42.38 | ndim | I fear .pk might become the next .af |
| 00:42.42 | gn00bie | ndim: read the part about Afghanistan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-Services_Intelligence |
| 00:42.57 | TheRedBaron | which is: "bury nukes in the entire region and tell everyone to play nice or boom" |
| 00:43.01 | gn00bie | ndim: no nation founded on a single point agenda of hate is a viable nation |
| 00:43.32 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: you might have to go boom, because these people are crazy |
| 00:43.33 | CBG | cries |
| 00:43.45 | CBG | Why did it have to end?! |
| 00:43.47 | gn00bie | I may be biased because my school was bombed by these crazies when I was in 4th grade |
| 00:43.51 | CBG | Couldn't it go on forever? |
| 00:44.03 | TheRedBaron | ~comfort CBG |
| 00:44.04 | purl | There, there, CBG. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 00:44.08 | gn00bie | ok, time to go get some beer and food |
| 00:44.10 | gn00bie | later |
| 00:44.19 | TheRedBaron | ~gn00bie++ |
| 00:44.21 | CBG | What use is purl to me now? |
| 00:44.30 | gn00bie | :) |
| 00:44.40 | TheRedBaron | just finished some beer and pizza |
| 00:44.47 | ndim | Bush should have left Iraq alone, and march into .af with a massive force and a massive dose of humility versus the population. That, plus creating a working economy, could have worked, but would have cost HUGE amounts of money, and probably a lot more deaths in the short run on the side of the invasion/occupation force. |
| 00:44.56 | CBG | Beer and Pizza could never fill this gap. |
| 00:45.00 | CBG | Damn you world! |
| 00:45.24 | ndim | CBG: What did have to end? Top Gear? |
| 00:45.24 | TheRedBaron | CBG: come tell us whats wrong ! |
| 00:45.45 | TheRedBaron | ndim: agreed. |
| 00:45.46 | CBG | Malcolm in the Middle! |
| 00:45.52 | CBG | Only 7 seasons?! Why?! :( |
| 00:45.53 | TheRedBaron | bah |
| 00:45.59 | TheRedBaron | retracts his sympathies |
| 00:46.01 | TheRedBaron | ~lart CBG |
| 00:46.01 | purl | resizes CBG's terminal to 40x24 |
| 00:46.05 | ndim | TheRedBaron: Well, if he's talking about Beer and Pizza, it can't be that he just lost the love of his life. |
| 00:46.12 | CBG | ndim: Top Gear has ended? :/ |
| 00:46.17 | CBG | ~die TheRedBaron |
| 00:46.18 | purl | ACTION murders TheRedBaron, takes two shots to the head then crumples to the ground, lifeless... |
| 00:46.18 | ndim | CBG: Today's episode. |
| 00:46.29 | ndim | But it was awesome. |
| 00:46.31 | CBG | Oh. Right. UK's Top Gear? |
| 00:46.35 | ndim | Yupp. |
| 00:46.43 | ndim | points CBG to finalgear.com |
| 00:46.44 | TheRedBaron | CBG: watch the sci fi series "FireFlye" |
| 00:46.54 | TheRedBaron | then you can damn the world |
| 00:46.55 | ndim | And there'll be a new OzTG within hours... |
| 00:47.03 | TheRedBaron | and Fox for cutting it short |
| 00:47.05 | CBG | Not a repeat?! |
| 00:47.07 | CBG | ndim: BBC's iPlayer ftw. |
| 00:47.12 | ndim | CBG: Oh right. |
| 00:47.24 | ndim | CBG: I keep forgetting there are other options for .uk residents. |
| 00:47.34 | CBG | Episode 1? New Series? :D |
| 00:47.42 | ndim | CBG: OF COURSE! |
| 00:47.44 | CBG | This almost makes up for the death of Malcolm! |
| 00:47.56 | ndim | The went trucking... awesome. |
| 00:48.01 | ndim | s/The/They/ |
| 00:48.25 | CBG | I had no idea... It's hard to keep track of this kind of stuff with no real TV... |
| 00:48.34 | ndim | But I wish I could have had a go in their trucks before they broke them. |
| 00:49.00 | ndim | CBG: finalgear.com reports all the important stuff on all Top Gears and Fifth Gears. |
| 00:49.15 | CBG | Pardon? |
| 00:49.36 | CBG | You do realise Fifth Gear is the Devil's work, don't you? |
| 00:49.40 | Flash | I will point out that at least some of the problems with how the wars have been prosecuted fall back on the shoulders of the litigitous American society |
| 00:49.51 | ndim | CBG: I have ignored FG so far. |
| 00:49.54 | Flash | commanders can't make a move without the lawyers' say so |
| 00:50.15 | Flash | the rules of engagement with an interspersed civilian populations are not well defined |
| 00:50.16 | TheRedBaron | Flash: No balance of power is foolproof :( |
| 00:50.25 | Flash | and we have no stomach for collateral damage |
| 00:50.32 | ndim | Flash: OK, so you're telling me that the US has put a militarily impotent force into two wars which cannot be won? |
| 00:50.37 | Flash | frankly, we have no stomach for any damage |
| 00:50.54 | Flash | ndim: more likely a militarily castrated force |
| 00:51.09 | Flash | the American people lack the will to win |
| 00:51.24 | Flash | show us the news bites of some PGM going boom and send the boys home |
| 00:51.33 | ndim | Or the will to consider things in the longer run than two months |
| 00:51.39 | Flash | (PGM - precision guided munitions) |
| 00:52.35 | Flash | the American people lack the attention span to comprehend the long standing and deep seated divisions and blood feuds that exist in populations in Iraq and Afghanistan (and Pakistan) |
| 00:52.55 | Flash | TheRedBaron: I don't think this is a balance of power |
| 00:53.36 | ndim | Flash: "Deep within, all people are Americans" like thinking? |
| 00:53.52 | Flash | I know that opportunities to take out high-ranking Al Quaida officials were lost waiting for permission to engage from the lawyers |
| 00:53.55 | ndim | If this was slashdot, I'd moderate Flash +1 insightful. |
| 00:53.57 | ndim | ~Flash++ |
| 00:54.03 | Flash | ndim: possibly |
| 00:54.29 | Flash | "If we just treat them nicely, they'll be nice to each other and us too" |
| 00:54.40 | Flash | which is one reason we never saw 9/11 coming |
| 00:54.53 | Flash | "surely no one would dare attack us on our own soil" |
| 00:55.36 | ndim | Flash: The "If we just treat them nicely, they'll be nice to each other and us too" can work - but you need to keep a forceful eye on things for a few decades. |
| 00:56.17 | Flash | I don't think so; it is predicated on an incorrect understanding of the social dynamics and climate |
| 00:56.57 | Flash | we have villified our "institutional hate" (KKK, aryan nation, etc) and don't understand whole societies being founded on it |
| 00:59.33 | ndim | Afghanistan has an estimated population of around 30 million people. So unless you send significantly more than 3 million soldiers to keep an eye on things for the first ten years, you cannot expect enduring success. |
| 01:00.05 | ndim | A few hunting teams here and a few rebuilding teams there will not make much of a difference in changing society. |
| 01:00.20 | TheRedBaron | ndim: but of 30 million - how many/percentages are actively resisting/attacking us ? |
| 01:00.44 | ndim | TheRedBaron: Does not matter. You need to cover everything. |
| 01:00.56 | Flash | ndim: the challenge is not to be a conqueror, but facilitate internal change. It's just that we lack the will to be the former and the insight to accomplish the latter |
| 01:01.12 | ndim | Then you are in a position of such strength that you do not need to behave like an occupation force. |
| 01:01.39 | ndim | You need to prevent the old violence from going on. |
| 01:01.56 | ndim | You need to make clear to everyone that attacking you will not change anything. |
| 01:02.23 | ndim | And you need to be friendly, which you can then afford. |
| 01:02.41 | ndim | Interact with people, learn the language, etc. |
| 01:03.07 | ndim | Stuff you cannot afford with 100000 soldiers in a country of 30 million where everyone needs to be considered hostile. |
| 01:04.08 | TheRedBaron | ndim: sounds like we need to be their parents. |
| 01:04.08 | ndim | If you keep a lid on things for a decade or two, reason can set in, the old people remembering all the old wars start dying of old age, and within a generation or two you can have the problem solved. |
| 01:04.25 | ndim | TheRedBaron: EXACTLY! |
| 01:04.50 | TheRedBaron | ndim: pardon me - and I'm in the same position. But I think we should have kids before we start thinking like that for other countries |
| 01:05.24 | ndim | If you start killing enough people, you'd better kill everyone and their relatives so they don't come back to fight you. Which cannot work either. |
| 01:05.30 | Flash | ndim: isn't that exactly what the Soviet Union did? |
| 01:05.45 | Flash | and when it collapsed, the old feuds broke out again? |
| 01:05.53 | Flash | Boznia? |
| 01:06.03 | ndim | Flash: How long where the Soviets in Afghanistan? |
| 01:06.06 | TheRedBaron | ndim: that doesn't seem to be the way that WW I or WW II worked. |
| 01:06.18 | Flash | I don't mean Afghanistan, I mean the CCCP |
| 01:06.30 | TheRedBaron | or was everyone and their relatives killed ? |
| 01:06.30 | Flash | now there is fighting between Russia and Georgia |
| 01:06.54 | TheRedBaron | georgia ?!? |
| 01:07.02 | TheRedBaron | closes down the florida border |
| 01:07.04 | Flash | gives TheRedBaron a WORLD map |
| 01:07.09 | ndim | TheRedBaron: Before WWII, Germany had been a quite developed country. |
| 01:07.20 | TheRedBaron | Flash: wow... there is a lot of blue on this map ! |
| 01:07.24 | ndim | Very much unlike the tribal structures of Afghanistan. |
| 01:07.32 | Flash | Germany was THE world power, prior to WW II |
| 01:07.37 | ndim | People were living in cities, working in industry, etc. |
| 01:07.45 | TheRedBaron | oh. so they were intelligent, and the afghans aren't. |
| 01:07.52 | ndim | The destruction of WWII removed all of that. |
| 01:08.16 | Flash | TheRedBaron: I would choose "civilized" or "cultured" over "intelligent" |
| 01:08.31 | TheRedBaron | ndim: np. we just need to re-work the the bombing and destruction of WWII and viola - afghan and iraq solved |
| 01:08.36 | TheRedBaron | Flash: we need more bombs ! |
| 01:08.38 | ndim | With all the country destroyed and so many people dead, there was not much motivation or strength left to continue the fight. |
| 01:08.52 | ndim | TheRedBaron: There IS nothing to destroy in Afghanistan? |
| 01:08.57 | Flash | ndim: yes, the civilian death toll was staggering |
| 01:09.07 | Flash | Americans would not tolerate that today |
| 01:09.31 | Flash | the fire bombing of Dresden, the nuking of Hiroshima/Nagasaki .... not possible today |
| 01:09.34 | ndim | Flash: AND, there were (mostly) well-behaving occupation troups. |
| 01:10.09 | ndim | Most of the raping etc. happened in the east by the Soviet army. |
| 01:10.19 | ndim | And some around here by the French. |
| 01:10.25 | Flash | I expect the French got their revenge .... yes |
| 01:10.30 | ndim | Everyone was relieved when the Americans took over. |
| 01:10.45 | Flash | Americans still expect that kind of greeting |
| 01:10.54 | ndim | People trekked over the border from the French to the American sectors. |
| 01:11.00 | Flash | although I'm told by servicemen that the Iraqis welcome them too |
| 01:11.14 | ndim | Flash: Again, too many soldiers in Iraq. |
| 01:11.27 | ndim | Uhm. |
| 01:11.29 | ndim | Not enough. |
| 01:11.34 | Flash | ok |
| 01:11.38 | ndim | My brain is feeling the advanced time of day. |
| 01:11.50 | Flash | sets ndim back an hour |
| 01:13.19 | ndim | And there were still US forces around (in force!) in Germany years later. |
| 01:14.12 | ndim | I'd suspect that until the social changes of 1968, some sinister Ex-Nazi force still in positions of power could have staged some mischief. |
| 01:14.36 | ndim | The presence of US troups (and the fear of the Soviets) surely helped there a lot. |
| 01:15.19 | ndim | Have I mentioned that we are hosting not only the US armed forces' European, but also the Africa headquarters? :) |
| 01:20.25 | ndim | Anyway... |
| 01:20.50 | ndim | I can see that we cannot solve the problems of the world in a 2 hour IRC discussion. |
| 01:22.49 | TheRedBaron | of course we can :P |
| 01:23.16 | ndim | For a hypothetical world, yes, but not for the real one. |
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| 01:36.17 | ndim | n8 everyone |
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| 03:07.52 | kierra | yawn* |
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| 03:14.15 | orange | kierra: you yawn, and TheRedBaron shows up... coincidence? |
| 03:14.31 | orange | he's here to combat sleepiness and boredom |
| 03:14.43 | orange | after fixing his routing problems, of course :-) |
| 03:14.51 | mviron | buries orange in oranges |
| 03:15.06 | orange | forces mviron to use TheRedBaron's router |
| 03:15.34 | gn00bie | roflmao |
| 03:17.17 | gn00bie | orange barr |
| 03:17.24 | orange | poor baron... or is it poor Valumzie? |
| 03:17.51 | Valumzie | poor Valumzie! of course |
| 03:17.53 | orange | gn00bie: bob barr? |
| 03:18.08 | mviron | hugs Valumzie |
| 03:18.27 | orange | Valumzie: you survived the routing chaos? You have gotten your own internet connection now? |
| 03:19.26 | Valumzie | the routing chaos? |
| 03:19.33 | Valumzie | It was fixed some time this week :) |
| 03:19.50 | orange | 21:00:38 -!- TheRedBaron quit [Nick collision from services.] |
| 03:19.52 | orange | 21:50:41 -!- TheRedBaron quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 03:20.07 | Valumzie | oh |
| 03:20.16 | Valumzie | thats just TRB switching from wireless to cable :) |
| 03:20.41 | Valumzie | or maybe its just that the connection in the doghouse is not too good ;) |
| 03:20.57 | orange | lol |
| 03:22.26 | gn00bie | orange: ? and the transition is not seamless in windows? cable to wireless? |
| 03:22.49 | gn00bie | because AFAIK, the ubuntu laptop I have goes seamlessly |
| 03:22.57 | orange | not if you get a new IP address |
| 03:23.55 | TheRedBaron | its a new IP address |
| 03:24.27 | TheRedBaron | look at the mask :) |
| 03:24.38 | gn00bie | humm, I guess I will have to try it out sometime |
| 03:25.03 | gn00bie | I will have to consult my CTO regarding this issue :P |
| 03:25.36 | orange | well, it also depends on the software you're using |
| 03:25.45 | gn00bie | irssi |
| 03:25.48 | TheRedBaron | vista ftw ? |
| 03:25.58 | orange | but irc requires a continued connection |
| 03:26.09 | orange | and with a new IP that's not likely |
| 03:26.24 | TheRedBaron | and new mac address - thats not likely also |
| 03:26.52 | orange | that can work |
| 03:27.55 | TheRedBaron | pokes longhair |
| 03:28.37 | TheRedBaron | ~haircut longhair |
| 03:28.37 | purl | ACTION gives longhair a haircut |
| 03:28.58 | gn00bie | orange: the GTO is gone for the winter :( |
| 03:29.13 | orange | say it isn't so |
| 03:30.20 | orange | why? |
| 03:30.22 | TheRedBaron | its so :( |
| 03:30.28 | gn00bie | back to the corolla with 1.8L (but thankfully with the stick shift) for the next 5 months |
| 03:30.36 | TheRedBaron | 1.8L ! |
| 03:30.42 | TheRedBaron | only has 1.6L |
| 03:30.50 | gn00bie | orange: a little compound that gets used around here a lot in winters NaCl |
| 03:31.05 | gn00bie | yeah, but you are only half my weight TheRedBaron :P |
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| 03:31.13 | orange | daily carwash |
| 03:31.45 | gn00bie | RWD + big torque = spinout city |
| 03:31.56 | gn00bie | and blizzaks are pretty expensive in that size |
| 03:33.10 | orange | I have another solution |
| 03:33.21 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: hark the man has a solution ! |
| 03:33.32 | orange | m o v e s o u t h |
| 03:33.35 | TheRedBaron | waits eagerly |
| 03:33.38 | TheRedBaron | oh ? |
| 03:33.49 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: how far south is india ? |
| 03:33.51 | orange | winter nonsense |
| 03:34.49 | TheRedBaron | concurs |
| 03:36.05 | gn00bie | hometown is 33 degrees N |
| 03:36.23 | gn00bie | orange: nah, I prefer the central new york region over the south |
| 03:36.30 | gn00bie | taxes and weather are the two chief problems |
| 03:36.52 | gn00bie | orange: TheRedBaron is going to move north of the mason dixon line :P |
| 03:37.03 | orange | eh? |
| 03:37.24 | orange | gn00bie: no income tax in florida |
| 03:37.37 | orange | and weather is a win here |
| 03:37.41 | TheRedBaron | i know :( |
| 03:37.52 | gn00bie | orange: I repeat, TrB is going to move north! |
| 03:38.01 | orange | what is this rumor? |
| 03:38.07 | orange | I have not heard of such |
| 03:38.34 | gn00bie | and of all places, CT! |
| 03:38.47 | orange | looks at TheRedBaron suspiciously |
| 03:38.49 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: the man is asking a question |
| 03:39.03 | TheRedBaron | rumor is true. |
| 03:39.31 | TheRedBaron | time frame is spring/summer 09 |
| 03:39.45 | gn00bie | and Obama is going to be in the white house by then |
| 03:39.54 | orange | you'll freeze! |
| 03:39.56 | gn00bie | the world will be really topsy turvy |
| 03:40.10 | gn00bie | orange: Valumzie is going to help him out with her Alpine experience |
| 03:40.31 | TheRedBaron | orange: That's what i'm afraid of :( |
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| 03:40.46 | mviron | sends TheRedBaron off to wireless |
| 03:41.09 | orange | well, they have Internet in CT, right? |
| 03:41.21 | *** part/##kierra Shel2476 (n=Shel2476@user-24-236-66-125.knology.net) |
| 03:41.22 | gn00bie | they might |
| 03:41.27 | TheRedBaron | orange: you have not been listening ? |
| 03:41.35 | gn00bie | but that is not the point, CT is the 49th suckiest state in the union |
| 03:41.40 | TheRedBaron | this is the first you've heard of such relocation. |
| 03:41.41 | orange | TheRedBaron: sadly I have fallen down on that job |
| 03:41.44 | gn00bie | they only have NJ to look down upon |
| 03:41.55 | orange | it is the first |
| 03:42.08 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: we need to take some remedial action for orange ! |
| 03:43.07 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: humm, I am fresh out of ideas |
| 03:43.10 | gn00bie | what should we do? |
| 03:43.11 | orange | logs aren't turning up anything useful |
| 03:43.27 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: did you do something "interesting" with the drinks served to Mel? |
| 03:43.35 | TheRedBaron | nope |
| 03:43.48 | TheRedBaron | we are entertaining her with Serenity :) |
| 03:43.52 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: man, we need to send you to the same remedial classes as orange |
| 03:44.24 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: what is Serenity? |
| 03:47.20 | mviron | sends gn00bie off to delaware |
| 03:48.28 | gn00bie | mviron: what about sweden? |
| 03:48.38 | gn00bie | but at least you are not sending me to Iceland as usual |
| 03:50.50 | mviron | gn00bie: trying to broaden your horizons |
| 03:51.47 | gn00bie | mviron: who are you and what have you done to the real mviron? |
| 03:51.58 | gn00bie | suspects orange has kidnapped mviron |
| 03:54.57 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: the Sci Fi Series "Firefly" turned to move |
| 03:54.59 | TheRedBaron | *movie |
| 03:55.13 | TheRedBaron | orange: still grepping logs ? |
| 03:55.42 | gn00bie | umm, ok, what is firefly?? |
| 03:56.21 | TheRedBaron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series) |
| 03:56.27 | TheRedBaron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_movie |
| 03:56.34 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: you need to watch more sci-fi :P |
| 03:57.08 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: umm, why? :P |
| 04:00.04 | orange | TheRedBaron: I gave up... this is unsubstantiated rumor |
| 04:00.08 | orange | no reliable sources as of yet |
| 04:00.55 | gn00bie | orange: but he is moving! |
| 04:01.34 | orange | waits for reliable confirmation |
| 04:01.39 | TheRedBaron | orange: you're logs are unreliable |
| 04:02.11 | TheRedBaron | and yes. current plans do have me relocating to the CT border of NY in spring/summer 09 |
| 04:02.25 | orange | I'm sure this can all be cleared up if someone who is actually close to this situation will show up and discuss it |
| 04:02.52 | gn00bie | orange: Valumzie is entertaining some sort of guest |
| 04:02.57 | orange | all this third-party hearsay isn't going anywhere |
| 04:03.07 | TheRedBaron | is a third party to himself ? |
| 04:03.16 | orange | stop confusing the issue |
| 04:03.21 | gn00bie | I tried to get TheRedBaron to spike the drink of the said guest, he would not do it |
| 04:03.59 | TheRedBaron | would not spike the drink of this said guest. |
| 04:04.12 | TheRedBaron | has known said guest since little boi |
| 04:04.26 | TheRedBaron | but thats not why |
| 04:04.42 | gn00bie | excuses |
| 04:04.45 | TheRedBaron | her retribution is why i have refrained myself from spiking the drink |
| 04:04.58 | gn00bie | what is life without a little risk? |
| 04:05.15 | TheRedBaron | orange: fine fine - you've seen through it all. The relocation is a long involved plot to move to GA |
| 04:05.27 | TheRedBaron | and look for a lost citrus |
| 04:06.03 | orange | I once was lost, but now I'm found |
| 04:06.13 | orange | was blind, but now I'm at sea |
| 04:06.21 | orange | hmmm, something not quite right there ;-) |
| 04:06.25 | TheRedBaron | amazing grace ! |
| 04:06.42 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: hark! the orange is on the run! |
| 04:07.03 | orange | satellite internet ftw |
| 04:07.47 | gn00bie | ? are you on satellite internet? |
| 04:08.33 | TheRedBaron | ~orange alert |
| 04:08.39 | TheRedBaron | we have an escapee! |
| 04:08.41 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: the orange is on a roll! |
| 04:10.51 | TheRedBaron | the orange is a roll ? |
| 04:11.13 | orange | ~roll gn00bie |
| 04:11.14 | purl | ACTION stuffs gn00bie in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
| 04:11.26 | orange | nice one |
| 04:11.43 | gn00bie | why??? |
| 04:12.00 | gn00bie | orange is on a roll with mustard! |
| 04:12.24 | TheRedBaron | and ham ! |
| 04:12.36 | gn00bie | and hamster! |
| 04:15.39 | orange | picks off the hamster |
| 04:15.44 | orange | and rolls it down a mountain |
| 04:16.43 | TheRedBaron | come now orange - confess your locale ! |
| 04:16.45 | gn00bie | orange: so how shocked are you that TrB will cross over to the yank side? |
| 04:17.34 | orange | gn00bie: unsubstantiated rumor as of yet... no need to have shock at this juncture |
| 04:17.48 | orange | TheRedBaron: sitting in a chair in my bedroom |
| 04:19.05 | gn00bie | not on a parkbench? |
| 04:19.21 | orange | looks down |
| 04:19.24 | orange | nope |
| 04:19.24 | TheRedBaron | or hanging from a tree ? |
| 04:19.29 | orange | looks up |
| 04:19.32 | orange | nope |
| 04:20.17 | TheRedBaron | hrm |
| 04:20.58 | gn00bie | hrm indeed |
| 04:23.38 | Flash | TheRedBaron: my Subaru Impreza RS has a 2.5L engine and AWD .... consider a new car for the frozen north |
| 04:24.00 | Flash | but don't go all the way to the STI ... too much power for ice |
| 04:24.20 | gn00bie | I knew it! |
| 04:24.27 | gn00bie | Flash is a lady from vermont! |
| 04:24.48 | Flash | gn00bie: your geography needs some work |
| 04:24.56 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: but his advice is valid, especially if there are any sort of hills where you live |
| 04:25.09 | gn00bie | Flash: my geography is the least of my problems :( |
| 04:25.15 | Flash | looks out the window at the mountains |
| 04:25.28 | gn00bie | there are mountains in VT! |
| 04:25.33 | Flash | pffft |
| 04:25.36 | Flash | little hills |
| 04:25.49 | gn00bie | well, that is sort of true |
| 04:25.50 | TheRedBaron | puts flash in a pan |
| 04:26.03 | Flash | jumps out of the pan into the fire |
| 04:27.44 | orange | puts out the fire in a flash |
| 04:28.42 | orange | sorry it didn't pan out |
| 04:29.41 | TheRedBaron | teehee's |
| 04:32.56 | gn00bie | !!!! |
| 04:33.08 | gn00bie | looking on craigslist, 2006 SRT8 Jeep for 8500 |
| 04:33.27 | gn00bie | it cannot be for real, the thing is 45 grand brand new |
| 04:34.20 | TheRedBaron | puts Flash on ebay to raise the funds |
| 04:37.02 | gn00bie | email sent, let us see |
| 04:37.11 | gn00bie | Corolla could be sold for 3500, no real problems |
| 04:37.19 | gn00bie | 5 grand can be arranged for |
| 04:37.30 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: i do not think Flash will go for 5 grand |
| 04:37.50 | TheRedBaron | who else can we barter off on ebay ? |
| 04:37.58 | TheRedBaron | catay ? ndim? Manu? |
| 04:38.16 | gn00bie | catay's kidneys might net us 5 |
| 04:38.26 | TheRedBaron | oh i dunno. |
| 04:38.26 | gn00bie | 420 hp, AWD! |
| 04:38.47 | gn00bie | with winter tires, this will be a beast (with car like ground clearance though, the front fascia is very low) |
| 04:42.40 | TheRedBaron | Sawzall will increase the ground clearance :) |
| 04:43.39 | gn00bie | so we just need to sell the kidneys! |
| 04:44.40 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: and catay is sleeping! perfect time to abscond off with his kidneys :D |
| 04:46.14 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: let us do it |
| 04:46.31 | gn00bie | you take one, I take we one and we go! |
| 04:46.43 | TheRedBaron | wee~ |
| 04:46.51 | TheRedBaron | ~steal catay's kidney |
| 04:46.52 | purl | ACTION grabs catay's kidney and gives it to theredbaron |
| 04:48.44 | gn00bie | ~steal catay's other kidney |
| 04:48.45 | purl | ACTION grabs catay's other kidney and gives it to gn00bie |
| 04:57.51 | Valumzie | orange: what TRB said is true :) |
| 04:59.02 | gn00bie | orange: now are you shocked? |
| 05:00.07 | orange | gasps |
| 05:00.24 | orange | Valumzie: *everything* he said? |
| 05:00.27 | orange | that covers quite a bit |
| 05:00.46 | TheRedBaron | :D |
| 05:00.49 | TheRedBaron | ~cake |
| 05:00.50 | purl | the cake is a lie! |
| 05:00.57 | TheRedBaron | the cake is a lie! |
| 05:01.05 | Valumzie | orange: only the part about moving up north |
| 05:01.06 | Valumzie | :) |
| 05:01.17 | gn00bie | ~console orange |
| 05:01.18 | purl | ACTION gives orange the consolation moose |
| 05:01.23 | gn00bie | ~purl++ |
| 05:01.50 | orange | in truth, to me it won't make much difference. The Internet closes geographical differences quite nicely. |
| 05:02.18 | orange | still shocking though |
| 05:02.32 | TheRedBaron | i'm afraid I won't live through the first winter :( |
| 05:03.28 | gn00bie | Valumzie: you might like this http://www.ambrosiasw.com/~andrew/tobaccoccino/images/boysarestupid.jpg |
| 05:03.35 | Valumzie | orange: shocking why?! |
| 05:03.53 | Valumzie | ~gn00bie++ |
| 05:03.55 | TheRedBaron | blinks |
| 05:04.24 | gn00bie | Valumzie: :P |
| 05:04.39 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: that link I just posted was an example of shameless open faced pandering |
| 05:12.36 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: oho yes |
| 05:13.04 | TheRedBaron | orange: were you born and raised in GA ? |
| 05:14.46 | gn00bie | I am suspecting that orange is shell shocked |
| 05:14.55 | gn00bie | Mrs Orange is probably ~comforting him |
| 05:14.58 | gn00bie | ~comfort orange |
| 05:14.58 | purl | There, there, orange. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 05:16.59 | TheRedBaron | does Mrs Orange moonlight as grapefruit ? |
| 05:17.08 | TheRedBaron | or tangerine ? |
| 05:17.26 | TheRedBaron | is trying to think of the sweeter citruses |
| 05:17.45 | TheRedBaron | for obvious reasons - she cannot moonlight as 'lemon' |
| 05:18.43 | gn00bie | clementine? |
| 05:18.50 | gn00bie | maybe orange is the lemon! |
| 05:19.49 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: that would be more apropos |
| 05:22.05 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: I suspect she moonlights as Clementine |
| 05:22.14 | TheRedBaron | and I'm turning in for the night now, the Valumzie is tired |
| 05:22.31 | TheRedBaron | gnight gn00bie and friends :) |
| 05:22.34 | orange | zzzz |
| 05:23.08 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: apparently we bore orange :( we must be losing our touch |
| 05:23.17 | TheRedBaron | heads off to dreams of days when he was young |
| 05:23.30 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: we all lose our touches, death and taxes my friend |
| 05:23.43 | gn00bie | bye TheRedBaron Valumzie |
| 05:24.36 | Valumzie | nite nite :) |
| 07:37.19 | Manu | TheRedBaron: I use to sleep in the night ;) |
| 07:53.38 | gn00bie | no Manu - you are ~milking men at night :P |
| 07:55.19 | Manu | gn00bie: please, no more jokes about it |
| 07:55.58 | gn00bie | ok Manu - if you ask so nicely |
| 07:56.02 | gn00bie | you even said please! |
| 07:56.13 | Manu | gn00bie: I'm polite |
| 07:56.15 | gn00bie | what can happen with the influence of kierra |
| 07:56.27 | gn00bie | Manu: I am also very polite |
| 07:56.53 | Manu | ok |
| 08:06.47 | Pimpi_ | gn00bie: it's not night anymore here, am i supposed to ~milk ? |
| 08:10.01 | Pimpi_ | ~milk |
| 08:10.02 | purl | it has been said that milk is go farmer, go. you're lazy! go milking. now! |
| 08:11.11 | gn00bie | Pimpi_: you have my permission |
| 08:11.15 | gn00bie | ~kierra++ |
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| 08:47.57 | Manu | Pimpi_: is not the milking you think :-p |
| 11:51.14 | kierra | yawn* |
| 11:53.04 | ndim | ~coffee kierra |
| 11:53.04 | purl | ACTION steals some of ndim's special coffee and gives it to kierra on a silver platter. |
| 11:57.45 | kierra | ty ndim :) |
| 12:08.16 | Valumzie | is it really MOnday? |
| 12:08.48 | kierra | nope, its Saturday |
| 12:09.52 | Valumzie | yay! |
| 12:31.53 | Manu | buenos dÃÂas kierra :) |
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| 12:35.20 | ndim | Valumzie: Nope, it's Tuesday. |
| 12:35.25 | ndim | (At least in New Zealand) |
| 12:43.18 | kierra | buenos dias, Manu :) |
| 12:46.49 | Manu | buenos dÃÂas kierra :) |
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| 12:54.38 | *** part/##kierra LongDon (n=LongDon@vpn199-075.HRZ.uni-oldenburg.de) |
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| 14:36.19 | kierra | ~coffee me |
| 14:36.19 | purl | ACTION steals some of AHA's special coffee and gives it to kierra on a silver platter. |
| 14:38.33 | *** join/##kierra TheRedBaron1 (n=kemhof@75.144.224.155) |
| 14:42.34 | orange | craves espresso |
| 14:45.14 | Valumzie | craves sleep and/or coffee |
| 14:45.34 | Manu | ~coffee kierra |
| 14:45.35 | purl | ACTION steals some of purl's special coffee and gives it to kierra on a silver platter. |
| 14:45.42 | Manu | k |
| 15:11.38 | Manu | ~splite TheRedBaron |
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| 15:11.41 | *** join/##kierra SkinTex (n=SkinTex@183-121-162-69.static.reverse.lstn.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
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| 15:16.40 | Flash | ~sleep Valumzie |
| 15:16.41 | purl | ACTION sends Valumzie to bed without supper |
| 15:16.53 | kierra | yikes, T minus 1 day |
| 15:19.33 | orange | kierra: what's all this about a baron moving to connecticut? |
| 15:25.07 | kierra | orange: the sad state of affairs |
| 15:26.02 | Valumzie | orange: moving up for work |
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| 15:54.34 | TheRedBaron1 | wow |
| 15:58.41 | orange | wow? |
| 15:58.51 | orange | surely you cannot just say wow and then leave it at that |
| 16:00.22 | TheRedBaron1 | quite the netsplit |
| 16:00.47 | orange | not for us.. just three people left :-) |
| 16:04.55 | TheRedBaron1 | ~squeeze orange |
| 16:04.55 | purl | ACTION squeezes the juice out of orange until there just ain't nothin left |
| 16:05.04 | orange | shrivels up |
| 16:14.45 | TheRedBaron1 | ~bad Valumzie |
| 16:14.45 | purl | Bad Valumzie, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 16:14.52 | Valumzie | Im innocent! |
| 16:15.08 | *** mode/##kierra [+o TheRedBaron] by ChanServ |
| 16:15.09 | Valumzie | you are the non-innocent one! Smiling on a Monday... never seen before |
| 16:15.26 | TheRedBaron | does the dance of the nude textbook |
| 16:16.25 | TheRedBaron | ~smoke SkinTex |
| 16:16.26 | purl | ACTION rolls up SkinTex, lights a match, kicks back and enjoys the noxious fumes |
| 16:18.57 | TheRedBaron | ~reconstitute orange |
| 16:19.32 | orange | hehe |
| 16:20.13 | TheRedBaron | orange: have you built any 'social networking' websites ? |
| 16:20.20 | orange | nay |
| 16:25.37 | TheRedBaron | hrm |
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| 16:33.30 | dexter- | kierra, there? |
| 16:34.45 | *** join/##kierra ashgadgets (n=ashgadge@59.92.140.164) |
| 16:34.58 | ashgadgets | hello! mr.spamgod isback :D |
| 16:35.27 | ashgadgets | hey, TRB, kierra,manu |
| 16:36.08 | ashgadgets | ~ashgadgets |
| 16:38.27 | ashgadgets | ~greet everyone |
| 16:38.27 | purl | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on everyone |
| 16:38.32 | ashgadgets | better |
| 16:38.54 | Valumzie | ~lart ashgadgets |
| 16:38.54 | purl | executes killall -TERM ashgadgets |
| 16:39.00 | Valumzie | I dont like cold oatmeal |
| 16:39.40 | ashgadgets | ok |
| 16:39.45 | ashgadgets | ~ice valumize |
| 16:39.46 | purl | ACTION sneaks up behind valumize and dumps an entire bucket of ice on top of them |
| 16:41.26 | ashgadgets | hey valumize |
| 16:44.44 | Valumzie | hey ashgadgets |
| 16:45.26 | ashgadgets | wassup dude? |
| 16:46.21 | Valumzie | blinks |
| 16:46.23 | TheRedBaron | pooor Valumzie |
| 16:46.36 | ashgadgets | ~valumize |
| 16:46.40 | Valumzie | I rarely get called "dude" |
| 16:46.44 | ashgadgets | dude |
| 16:46.50 | ashgadgets | you just called dude |
| 16:46.58 | ashgadgets | was called dude |
| 16:47.10 | Valumzie | thats what I meant |
| 16:47.20 | ashgadgets | you dont get called dude?? |
| 16:47.23 | Valumzie | people dont usually call me "dude" |
| 16:47.24 | Valumzie | nope |
| 16:47.28 | Valumzie | cause Im not a dude |
| 16:47.59 | ashgadgets | are you a dudet? |
| 16:48.40 | Valumzie | very interesting way to put it |
| 16:48.47 | ashgadgets | ;) |
| 16:51.41 | TheRedBaron | its 'dudette' |
| 16:52.05 | ashgadgets | my typo |
| 16:52.07 | ashgadgets | eee pc |
| 16:52.09 | ashgadgets | :D |
| 16:52.26 | ashgadgets | how many of you are actually mac owners? |
| 16:54.34 | Valumzie | ~lart TheRedBaron for encouraging this |
| 16:54.34 | purl | shoots TheRedBaron in the head for encouraging this |
| 16:54.38 | Valumzie | I own a mac |
| 16:54.38 | TheRedBaron | :( |
| 16:55.10 | ashgadgets | me too :) |
| 16:55.17 | ashgadgets | i use eee at home |
| 16:55.20 | ashgadgets | iMac |
| 16:55.35 | ashgadgets | is my default desktop |
| 16:55.45 | ashgadgets | Macbook air is my default companion |
| 16:56.01 | ashgadgets | eee pc is the thing i use infrequently ;) |
| 16:56.52 | ashgadgets | ~hug Valumize for being a mac |
| 16:56.53 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Valumize for being a mac |
| 16:57.15 | ashgadgets | hey pimpi! |
| 16:57.33 | ashgadgets | psst...fell off the assigned cliff yet ;) |
| 16:58.12 | ashgadgets | ~fail |
| 16:58.13 | purl | Sorry, ashgadgets, you have failed. Please insert $1.00 to try again. |
| 16:58.31 | ashgadgets | i am broke!! |
| 16:58.42 | ashgadgets | heya gn00bie... are you around? |
| 16:58.42 | TheRedBaron | no doubt - from the all the macs :) |
| 16:58.51 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie sleeps |
| 16:59.01 | ashgadgets | sleeps? ok |
| 16:59.09 | ashgadgets | gnoobie: sleep well :) |
| 16:59.15 | TheRedBaron | and if orange or flash has had his hand in it - he's probably sleeping with the fishes |
| 16:59.25 | ashgadgets | :) |
| 16:59.28 | ashgadgets | ~lol |
| 16:59.29 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, lol is stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 16:59.42 | ashgadgets | LOL |
| 16:59.57 | ashgadgets | ~theredbaron++ |
| 17:00.02 | ashgadgets | ~theredbaron |
| 17:00.03 | purl | rumour has it, theredbaron is a newbie, and a cheeky blighter |
| 17:00.17 | ashgadgets | ?? newbie? impossible! |
| 17:00.31 | ashgadgets | ~orange |
| 17:00.32 | purl | methinks orange is not apple, but he is 600nm, the strong silent type and he is ALWAYS watching, or not an automobile, or for whom the bell tolls |
| 17:00.48 | ashgadgets | ofcourse orange aint apple |
| 17:00.52 | ashgadgets | ~ashgadgets |
| 17:01.11 | ashgadgets | it lost its train of thought :) |
| 17:03.09 | Valumzie | Serious question: any Southerners around here? |
| 17:03.16 | ashgadgets | south asian here |
| 17:03.28 | Valumzie | US-south :) |
| 17:03.31 | TheRedBaron | Valumzie: orange |
| 17:03.34 | ashgadgets | ah k |
| 17:03.48 | ashgadgets | south usa is mccain country |
| 17:03.54 | Valumzie | TheRedBaron: which part again? |
| 17:03.55 | ashgadgets | he will win those parts |
| 17:04.03 | Valumzie | ~silent ashgadgets |
| 17:04.15 | ashgadgets | hello |
| 17:04.22 | ashgadgets | i can still speak! |
| 17:04.31 | orange | Valumzie: I'm from Georgia |
| 17:04.41 | ashgadgets | the state? |
| 17:04.51 | ashgadgets | or country? |
| 17:04.51 | orange | yes |
| 17:04.56 | orange | the state |
| 17:04.58 | ashgadgets | k |
| 17:05.20 | Valumzie | orange: would you by any chance have any controversial confederate memorials in your area? :) |
| 17:05.21 | TheRedBaron | Valumzie: orange is from macon georgia. and he's macon bacon |
| 17:05.35 | Valumzie | ~TheRedBaron++ |
| 17:05.36 | Valumzie | :P |
| 17:05.41 | ashgadgets | :P |
| 17:05.50 | ashgadgets | another serious one: |
| 17:05.58 | ashgadgets | how many of you are voting obama tomm? |
| 17:06.05 | orange | not macon |
| 17:06.16 | ashgadgets | no maccin |
| 17:06.16 | TheRedBaron | orange: i know - but I needed something that rhymed :) |
| 17:06.18 | orange | Valumzie: honestly I don't know of any |
| 17:06.41 | orange | TheRedBaron: macon had a minor league hockey team |
| 17:06.46 | orange | look up the name |
| 17:06.47 | ashgadgets | :) |
| 17:07.03 | TheRedBaron | orange: my intuition tells me its 'macon bacon' ? |
| 17:07.08 | orange | nope |
| 17:07.10 | Valumzie | orange: ty :) |
| 17:07.25 | ashgadgets | trb: it is mccain the zombie\ |
| 17:07.46 | ashgadgets | have you seen cindy? she IS a zombie! |
| 17:08.54 | ashgadgets | some people use their intuition but some are in tuition |
| 17:19.21 | Pimpi_ | ashgadgets: really, i guess it's time to finally stop this |
| 17:20.13 | Pimpi_ | just let them alone and make their vote |
| 17:20.22 | kierra | ty Pimpi_ |
| 17:20.36 | kierra | ashgadgets: lets drop the politics |
| 17:22.04 | ashgadgets | ok] |
| 17:22.23 | ashgadgets | trb2 is needed on the match... |
| 17:22.28 | ashgadgets | is he around kierra? |
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| 17:28.10 | *** mode/##kierra [+o kierr1] by ChanServ |
| 17:28.27 | *** topic/##kierra by kierr1 -> Welcome: || " We worship the future in our fear, we loath the past in our regret, and disdain the present in our dissatisfaction." || ñ || I'll keep my freedom, my guns, my sanctitiy of life and my money, you keep the change.|| Vote for the return of the original ~milk command!!! || |
| 17:32.53 | TheRedBaron | ~weather KTLH |
| 17:33.34 | ndim | ~weather EDDS |
| 17:33.51 | Manu | ~weather TRBR |
| 17:33.52 | ndim | We had a balmy 60F today. |
| 17:34.16 | Manu | ~weather NDIM |
| 17:34.34 | ndim | ~weather MANU |
| 17:34.38 | ndim | ~weather PURL |
| 17:34.52 | ndim | ~weather BRAD |
| 17:35.06 | Manu | ~weather ABCD |
| 17:35.19 | ndim | ~weather YTRB |
| 17:35.37 | Manu | ~weather KIERRA |
| 17:36.09 | ndim | Manu: Four letters only. |
| 17:36.19 | ndim | YTRB is a small airstrip in Australia. |
| 17:36.38 | Manu | :) |
| 17:36.53 | TheRedBaron | has an airstrip named after him? |
| 17:37.11 | ndim | In Victoria. |
| 17:37.13 | Manu | ndim: I gave 5 letters because pur is unable to find the station with 4 ;) |
| 17:37.15 | TheRedBaron | bah. thats small-beans, I have a famous WW I pilot named after me :D |
| 17:37.21 | ndim | Torrumbarry. |
| 17:38.20 | Manu | ~weather kozr |
| 17:38.43 | Manu | ~weather keuf |
| 17:41.06 | ndim | There are a few MANU type FIXes. |
| 17:41.15 | ndim | But there are no weather infos for them. |
| 17:41.34 | ndim | AMANU, EMANU, MANUE, MANUL, MANUS, MANUX. |
| 17:43.12 | ndim | New Mexico, Mexico, Lithuania, Ohio, Kazachstan, and EMANU north of Burgos. |
| 17:44.32 | ndim | And there is a Fix CATAY in the middle between Washington, D.C. and Baltimore! |
| 17:45.15 | kierra | ~rubberband Manu |
| 17:45.16 | purl | ACTION sneaks around the house, yard and town, collecting every rubberband there is, and then camps at a prime location, waiting for Manu to walk by so he can pelt Manu with thousands and thousands of rubberbands |
| 17:45.42 | ndim | In Fort Meade.Uhm... catay... what is your connection with the NSA? |
| 17:45.46 | ndim | :) |
| 17:46.57 | ndim | CATAY is on a parking lot in For Meade, which looks like it could be a parking lot for the NSA HQ... |
| 17:49.06 | ndim | And FLASH is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, about 120mi WNW of Guam. |
| 17:49.26 | catay | are you ok ndim ? |
| 17:49.39 | catay | do we need to call a doctor ? :P |
| 17:50.01 | ndim | There is no WINNY. |
| 17:50.12 | ndim | And no PIMPI. |
| 17:50.17 | catay | TheRedBaron, gn00bie , did you guys removed some braincells from someone also ? :P |
| 17:51.17 | ndim | catay: http://mpmap02.flightgear.org/?ll=39.111186,-76.771883&z=9&t=m&fg_server=mpserver02:5000,mpserver02.flightgear.org,5001&update_interval=5&pilot_label=always&icon_mode=normal |
| 17:51.26 | ndim | catay: click on "nav" tab. |
| 17:51.39 | ndim | Enter "catay", click the looking glass. |
| 17:51.52 | ndim | Wait for the "Please wait" to disappear. |
| 17:52.11 | ndim | Click on "Fix CATAY CATAY" in list. |
| 17:52.20 | ndim | catay: Then watch Fix CATAY on map. |
| 17:52.47 | Valumzie | poor ndim |
| 17:52.56 | Valumzie | Monday seems to be rough on him :) |
| 17:53.38 | ndim | And it really looks like CATAY is on the NSA parking lot. |
| 17:54.02 | ndim | Yeah, affirmative. |
| 17:54.12 | catay | ndim: that link is terrible slow |
| 17:54.48 | ndim | catay: Yepp, that takes a minute or so. |
| 17:56.28 | catay | ok, gonna eat then :P |
| 17:56.41 | ndim | I guess the cloverleaf intersection with the huge parking lot and the large building are a well-visible landmark from the air. |
| 17:57.06 | ndim | So they gave it a name. |
| 17:57.39 | ndim | ~weather KCBG |
| 17:57.44 | ndim | ~weather YCBG |
| 18:00.03 | ndim | ~weather FAHA |
| 18:14.25 | TheRedBaron | catay: works for the NSA? |
| 18:14.29 | TheRedBaron | hides from catay |
| 18:14.36 | catay | ndim: i just executed your weirdness :P |
| 18:14.53 | catay | and now ? :P |
| 18:16.09 | catay | what am I doing there??? |
| 18:18.27 | ndim | catay: That is a FIX on the NSA parking lot. |
| 18:19.06 | ndim | catay: The place is well visible and distinctly looking from the air, so the aircraft people give the point a name to simplify communication. |
| 18:19.40 | ndim | "5 miles north of CATAY" is easier to say than "5 miles north of the large parking lot near the cloverleaf intersection". |
| 18:21.32 | catay | i see |
| 18:21.38 | catay | thanks for exposing my nick ! |
| 18:21.40 | Valumzie | does the Green Card dance |
| 18:21.40 | catay | :P |
| 18:21.50 | catay | Valumzie: congrats :p |
| 18:21.52 | catay | don't lose it :)) |
| 18:24.52 | Valumzie | catay: I will try :) |
| 18:25.14 | catay | TheRedBaron: i would be a bad person to work at the NSA, I can't keep secrets :P |
| 18:25.48 | Valumzie | catay: whats my birthday present, then? |
| 18:25.49 | Valumzie | :D |
| 18:26.08 | catay | none? :P |
| 18:26.58 | catay | oh, still 4 days to go :P |
| 18:27.19 | catay | TheRedBaron: what's her birthday present ? :P |
| 18:28.05 | catay | pancakes! |
| 18:30.12 | TheRedBaron | catay: thin pancakes ! |
| 18:30.26 | catay | the real ones! |
| 18:32.02 | Valumzie | sighs |
| 18:32.45 | catay | no worries Valumzie , they taste as good as crepes :P |
| 18:38.21 | gn00bie | catay: you are turning into me :P |
| 18:39.33 | kierra | oh catay, dad baron shared some belgian choc yest |
| 18:39.49 | kierra | the truffle was absolutely delicious |
| 18:39.50 | catay | gn00bie: i was already wondering were that tan is coming from |
| 18:40.11 | catay | you serious? |
| 18:40.28 | gn00bie | catay: your chocolate lives in tally long after you departed |
| 18:40.43 | catay | wow, it would be already consumped quite some time :P |
| 18:40.50 | catay | if it was me :P |
| 18:40.50 | kierra | we are savoring them lil by lil |
| 18:40.56 | kierra | nooo |
| 18:40.56 | gn00bie | I had some pralines the other day, the going rate at the canadian duty free was $60/kg! |
| 18:41.24 | gn00bie | my replacement is not around, right? |
| 18:41.36 | gn00bie | seems like he was looking for me earlier today |
| 18:41.47 | catay | yeah chocolates can be very expensive |
| 18:42.21 | kierra | omg, that was a good deed gone awry |
| 18:43.11 | Valumzie | gn00bie: Im glad your replacement does not stay here all dy |
| 18:43.12 | Valumzie | *day |
| 18:43.16 | gn00bie | Valumzie: me too |
| 18:43.18 | Valumzie | I would strangle him if I could |
| 18:43.21 | gn00bie | he talks at 80 mph |
| 18:43.29 | Valumzie | yup |
| 18:43.35 | Valumzie | and he has nothing to say :) |
| 18:43.40 | gn00bie | roflmao |
| 18:43.44 | gn00bie | ~Valumzie++ |
| 18:44.01 | catay | rofl Valumzie |
| 18:44.13 | gn00bie | well, some of it could be cultural differences - we Indians love to say nothing but speak a lot |
| 18:44.27 | gn00bie | catay: why are pralines so expensive? |
| 18:44.36 | catay | dunno |
| 18:44.39 | Valumzie | kierra: i received my green card today :D |
| 18:44.55 | Valumzie | gn00bie: that kid certainly is a test on my patience :) |
| 18:44.55 | catay | gn00bie: some of them are made by hand |
| 18:45.07 | catay | the NeuHaus ones are made by hand i think |
| 18:45.07 | Valumzie | everytime he starts talking, Im ready to kick him :D |
| 18:45.33 | Valumzie | catay: true truffles should always be made by hand |
| 18:45.35 | TheRedBaron | is looking at a 'get out of the doghouse free' card that will last for several months :D |
| 18:45.45 | gn00bie | Valumzie: :P I did not know you could kick people (unless it was catay or me) |
| 18:45.50 | Valumzie | TheRedBaron: my birthday present could be that card :D |
| 18:45.51 | catay | but i'm not really into the pralines business so i don't really know :p |
| 18:46.03 | catay | the plant is not far from my place tho :) |
| 18:46.06 | gn00bie | catay: maybe you should be |
| 18:46.11 | Valumzie | gn00bie: the kid being your replacement, I could easily find an excuse for kicking him ;) |
| 18:46.15 | Valumzie | its kind of like kicking you |
| 18:46.32 | gn00bie | yeah, but my replacement is yet to come up with GAPOD |
| 18:46.37 | catay | kicking an Indian is useless, they are used to it :P |
| 18:46.42 | TheRedBaron | LOL |
| 18:46.44 | gn00bie | or the idea to spike Mel's pina colada |
| 18:46.46 | TheRedBaron | ~catay++ |
| 18:46.49 | gn00bie | catay: :P |
| 18:47.02 | catay | :P |
| 18:47.10 | TheRedBaron | hrm, my VOIP phone has not changed timezones yet. |
| 18:47.36 | catay | gn00bie: it's a bit the truth, specially when they are outsourced, the customer can do anyting with them and they do it :) |
| 18:48.02 | gn00bie | catay: not to me, I kick a$$, take names, and generally make people feel sorry for themselves |
| 18:48.03 | catay | because they don't wanna fail their job |
| 18:48.05 | gn00bie | :P |
| 18:48.23 | gn00bie | I also eat cement and crap gunpowder |
| 18:48.30 | catay | well, i noticed it at my former company, some got treated very badly and they just stayed cool and quiet |
| 18:48.32 | TheRedBaron | makes note not to cremate gn00bie |
| 18:49.08 | gn00bie | catay: Indians are a docile people in general though, you are right |
| 18:49.44 | TheRedBaron | wonders if there is such a thing as instant vicarious gratification. |
| 18:50.13 | catay | well, i always was nice to them :) |
| 18:50.48 | catay | went out a lot with a wiskey drinker like you :P |
| 18:50.56 | catay | until he got married :P |
| 18:50.58 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: on my cremation, make sure whisky is served, none of those fruity drinks |
| 18:51.11 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: ok ok :P |
| 18:51.14 | gn00bie | yeah, Indians also stop drinking when they get married, not sure why |
| 18:51.25 | TheRedBaron | oh? |
| 18:51.38 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: make sure that my pall bearers are either all punch drunk or stoned |
| 18:51.49 | catay | its the reverse with TheRedBaron , he started drinking when he got married :P |
| 18:51.59 | gn00bie | catay: TheRedBaron is not Indian :P |
| 18:52.20 | catay | he isn't? |
| 18:52.22 | catay | oh :P |
| 18:52.42 | gn00bie | see, it all adds up :P |
| 18:52.49 | catay | heh |
| 18:52.50 | Valumzie | the different with TRB is that he married a European :P |
| 18:53.10 | TheRedBaron | who drinks with me :) |
| 18:53.12 | gn00bie | .ch is not in the EU though, so pseudo-european :P |
| 18:53.36 | catay | indeed |
| 18:53.46 | TheRedBaron | she's faux euro ? |
| 18:54.06 | TheRedBaron | wants his money back ! |
| 18:54.14 | catay | rofl |
| 18:54.16 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: is she on Faux News? |
| 18:54.25 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: i have not checked |
| 18:54.44 | gn00bie | then more than likely she is not Faux european |
| 18:54.47 | Valumzie | Switzerland is in Europe... |
| 18:54.56 | Valumzie | just not in the European Union! |
| 18:55.00 | Pimpi_ | Valumzie: more or less |
| 18:55.05 | TheRedBaron | is this going to put me in the faux doghouse ? |
| 18:55.17 | Valumzie | Pimpi_: we are in Europe :) |
| 18:55.23 | Valumzie | thats how the continent is called :) |
| 18:55.31 | catay | TheRedBaron: next time you should read the small print :P |
| 18:55.31 | Valumzie | we are not part of the European Union, though |
| 18:55.33 | Manu | Valumzie: yes, we are in Europe ;) |
| 18:55.46 | Valumzie | hugs Manu |
| 18:56.18 | Manu | Switzerland is like a pirate bay ;) |
| 18:56.27 | gn00bie | catay: next time? |
| 18:56.32 | Valumzie | lol |
| 18:56.33 | Manu | switzereland* |
| 18:56.41 | Manu | switzerland* |
| 18:56.52 | Manu | lol.. can't spell :S |
| 18:56.52 | Valumzie | we are like the lil rebel village in Asterix and Obelix :D |
| 18:56.52 | catay | gn00bie: well, good remark :P |
| 18:57.09 | catay | gn00bie: guess there won't be a next time :P |
| 18:57.39 | catay | and idefix |
| 18:57.46 | gn00bie | Valumzie: are you asterix, or obelix |
| 18:57.54 | Valumzie | im a mix |
| 18:58.00 | Valumzie | cause Im small and chubby :) |
| 18:58.03 | gn00bie | Valumzie: though it is a shame that asterix is not very popular in the US |
| 18:58.08 | Pimpi_ | Valumzie: personally i believe, that switzerland was placed there by extraterrestial, and they have their secret HQ there |
| 18:58.17 | gn00bie | Valumzie: or are you Vitalstatistix |
| 18:58.30 | Pimpi_ | ;) |
| 18:58.34 | gn00bie | Valumzie: I am very dogmatix! |
| 18:58.34 | Valumzie | Pimpi_: :D |
| 18:58.46 | Valumzie | gn00bie: I had no idea you knew about them!!!!! |
| 18:58.51 | Valumzie | how cool :) |
| 18:59.09 | Pimpi_ | catay told me, he works for the NSA |
| 18:59.13 | gn00bie | Valumzie: I have read every single one of them :) |
| 18:59.17 | TheRedBaron | i knew it ! |
| 18:59.20 | Valumzie | Pimpi_: lol!!! |
| 18:59.25 | Valumzie | ~gn00bie++ |
| 18:59.32 | Valumzie | have you read them in English? |
| 18:59.41 | gn00bie | Valumzie: yes, the translated versions in english |
| 19:00.24 | gn00bie | every self respecting children's library in India has 3 sets of TinTin and 2 sets of Asterix |
| 19:01.13 | orange | I've not read much asterix, but tintin was a favorite of mine |
| 19:01.13 | catay | heh |
| 19:01.46 | gn00bie | catay: what about you? any asterix/tintin exposure? |
| 19:01.49 | Valumzie | gn00bie: have you seen the second movie they made? |
| 19:01.52 | orange | TheRedBaron: did you look up the name of the hockey team? |
| 19:01.56 | catay | yeah, read them |
| 19:02.00 | TheRedBaron | orange: yup |
| 19:02.03 | gn00bie | Valumzie: no, not yet |
| 19:02.07 | TheRedBaron | macon traxs or macon whoopee ? ;) |
| 19:02.17 | catay | but my favorite is Thorgal |
| 19:02.17 | orange | the funny one... the second one :-) |
| 19:02.25 | Valumzie | Asterix Mission Cleopatre is real good :) |
| 19:02.41 | Valumzie | oh! I loved Thorgal! |
| 19:02.54 | Valumzie | used to read so many of those books :) |
| 19:03.30 | catay | hehe |
| 19:03.47 | catay | yeah, i loved it too, great comic |
| 19:04.20 | catay | Valumzie: do you know bob et bobette? |
| 19:04.42 | catay | i think that's how it was called in french |
| 19:05.00 | TheRedBaron | has seen the Asterix movie |
| 19:05.23 | Valumzie | catay: i have read some of them, yes :) |
| 19:05.28 | Valumzie | ~TheRedBaron++ |
| 19:05.39 | Valumzie | gn00bie: I need to find some of the Asterix for TRB |
| 19:05.41 | catay | that's also belgian :P |
| 19:05.46 | TheRedBaron | didn't understand a word they said though. |
| 19:05.53 | catay | Belgium has good comic strips :P |
| 19:06.18 | gn00bie | Valumzie: I have the whole set scanned in |
| 19:06.30 | gn00bie | I need to look for it though, it is on one of the backup hard drives |
| 19:07.41 | Valumzie | catay: Thats very true |
| 19:07.52 | Valumzie | the best, imho |
| 19:08.35 | gn00bie | that explains why catay is such a cartoon? :P |
| 19:10.22 | Valumzie | gn00bie: yup :) |
| 19:11.00 | Valumzie | catay: Im going to have TRB read "Asterix chez les Belges " :) |
| 19:13.47 | TheRedBaron | in french ? |
| 19:17.22 | Valumzie | nope :) |
| 19:17.43 | Valumzie | Ill be nice and find them in English :) |
| 19:18.13 | catay | lol good idea! |
| 19:33.03 | *** join/##kierra TheRedBaron1 (n=kemhof@75.144.224.155) |
| 19:34.40 | ndim | Oh my. |
| 19:35.03 | ndim | Now I'm seriously thinking about digging out all those Asterix books. |
| 19:35.31 | Valumzie | ndim: Asterix books should never be put away!!! |
| 19:37.28 | ndim | Valumzie: Well, when you know them all almost by heart, it is time to put them into a safe location for some time, until the cravings are reawakened. |
| 19:39.58 | catay | ~lart kierra |
| 19:39.59 | purl | follow's kierra with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 19:40.01 | catay | :p |
| 19:40.07 | kierra | :"( |
| 19:40.16 | kierra | :'( |
| 19:40.26 | catay | for going offline when i'm still typing :P |
| 19:40.28 | kierra | its a jonah day |
| 19:40.42 | kierra | when did i do that? |
| 19:40.47 | catay | you just did :P |
| 19:40.52 | kierra | nope |
| 19:41.11 | catay | ok, nvm then :P |
| 19:42.02 | Valumzie | ndim: I used to always keep them handy, just in case :) |
| 19:42.13 | Valumzie | kierra: jonah day? |
| 19:43.23 | catay | she got eaten by a whale ... that's always bad :P |
| 19:43.26 | ndim | Valumzie: kierra is feeling like having been swallowed by a huge marine mammal. |
| 19:43.46 | ndim | suddenly remembers a certain picture. |
| 19:44.06 | catay | Valumzie: you should read the bible more instead of Asterix :P |
| 19:44.21 | gn00bie | catay: you are my new hero |
| 19:44.25 | gn00bie | ~catay++ |
| 19:44.26 | catay | omg |
| 19:44.29 | catay | do i have too ? |
| 19:44.44 | catay | ok then , the ++ did it :P |
| 19:44.55 | gn00bie | abdicates his throne in favour of catay |
| 19:46.39 | ndim | ~karma gn00bie |
| 19:46.39 | purl | gn00bie has karma of 71 |
| 19:46.42 | ndim | ~karma catay |
| 19:46.42 | purl | catay has karma of 1 |
| 19:46.49 | ndim | Does not add up. |
| 19:46.52 | catay | man purl hates me |
| 19:47.10 | ndim | Those numbers say gn00bie has to keep his throne. |
| 19:47.14 | gn00bie | it probably had a buffer overflow |
| 19:47.19 | catay | heh |
| 19:47.26 | gn00bie | once your karma gets to 999, it rolls over |
| 19:47.42 | ndim | Nah. |
| 19:47.51 | kierra | drowns her sorrows in a bag of chips |
| 19:47.51 | catay | it's an int , and i reached the boundary :P |
| 19:48.01 | gn00bie | yes :P |
| 19:48.16 | ndim | The Linux kernel's load average did roll over at 1023 for years... and I triggered that a few times. :) |
| 19:48.45 | gn00bie | 1023 load avg?? on a system with 1 or 2 cores???? |
| 19:48.55 | ndim | gn00bie: 1 core, 1 fork bomb. |
| 19:49.23 | ndim | kierra: You can't eat that fork bomb, sorry. |
| 19:49.24 | gn00bie | ndim: ah I see, fork bomb |
| 19:49.38 | gn00bie | so I think catay's karma has rolled past 1023 as well |
| 19:49.57 | Valumzie | ndim, catay: I know what a Jonah day is :P |
| 19:50.04 | ndim | I don't. |
| 19:50.05 | Valumzie | was asking about what was up... :) |
| 19:50.31 | ndim | ~weather KTLH |
| 19:50.58 | ndim | ~hug kierra |
| 19:50.59 | purl | ACTION hugs kierra tightly until kierra turns slightly blue |
| 19:51.15 | gn00bie | call it aftermath, she is turning blue |
| 19:51.15 | ndim | ~protect kierra |
| 19:51.16 | purl | acts as kierra's bodyguard |
| 19:51.20 | gn00bie | such a perfect color for you |
| 19:52.25 | catay | gn00bie: do you use bash ? |
| 19:52.32 | gn00bie | catay: yup |
| 19:52.36 | catay | gn00bie: try this : :(){:|:&};: |
| 19:52.45 | catay | :P |
| 19:52.53 | ndim | That should work on POSIX sh. |
| 19:53.02 | gn00bie | catay: what is that? |
| 19:53.05 | gn00bie | a fork bomb? |
| 19:53.06 | gn00bie | :P |
| 19:53.08 | ndim | Hehe. |
| 19:53.19 | catay | heh .. maybe :P |
| 19:53.35 | gn00bie | catay: see, I like the new you :P I am not running it |
| 19:53.46 | catay | oh you chicken! :P |
| 19:53.49 | catay | :) |
| 19:54.00 | gn00bie | ok if I have to reboot, I will be gone for a few minutes |
| 19:54.03 | kierra | ~karma kierra |
| 19:54.03 | purl | kierra has karma of 41 |
| 19:54.10 | kierra | 41, wow |
| 19:54.13 | kierra | thats a lot |
| 19:54.19 | ndim | ~kierra++ |
| 19:54.21 | ndim | not enough |
| 19:54.24 | catay | purl clearly is confussed :P |
| 19:54.25 | purl | catay: okay |
| 19:54.25 | kierra | rofl |
| 19:54.32 | kierra | no false karma, now |
| 19:54.34 | gn00bie | catay: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `{:' |
| 19:54.52 | catay | :(){:|:&};: |
| 19:54.58 | catay | or |
| 19:55.12 | catay | foo(){foo|foo&};foo |
| 19:55.29 | gn00bie | this is clearer |
| 19:55.33 | gn00bie | function definition of some sort |
| 19:55.40 | gn00bie | catay: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:55.42 | catay | but makes it also more obvious what it does :P |
| 19:55.44 | gn00bie | ~catay++ |
| 19:56.19 | catay | i'll try it too on my other system |
| 19:56.24 | ndim | The cute part is that many scripts use : as the built-in shortcut for /bin/true... |
| 19:56.34 | ndim | catay: Why on the other system? |
| 19:56.39 | catay | heh |
| 19:56.49 | catay | cause i don't wanna reboot my laptop :P |
| 19:56.54 | catay | and definetly not my server |
| 19:57.02 | gn00bie | catay: next you will be telling people to press F12 when they ask a question |
| 19:57.02 | catay | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.07 | gn00bie | how do I change my radar zoom, F12 |
| 19:57.31 | ndim | catay: "ulimit -u" should help there. |
| 19:57.32 | kierra | is looking for a hard back copy of The Lion's Paw by Robb White |
| 19:57.57 | catay | yeah |
| 19:57.57 | kierra | and she doesn't want to pay an arm and a leg for it either |
| 19:58.05 | ndim | kierra: prank-calling the library? |
| 19:58.11 | kierra | noooo |
| 19:58.16 | catay | gn00bie: you have to let a space after/before teh brackes |
| 19:58.18 | kierra | for Nels for Christmas |
| 19:58.28 | gn00bie | catay: I am not running it :P |
| 19:58.28 | catay | heh |
| 19:58.35 | Winny | gn00bie: You're from India, right? |
| 19:58.38 | catay | my system went unresponisve immediatly |
| 19:58.39 | catay | hehe |
| 19:58.46 | gn00bie | Winny: I am, yes |
| 19:58.56 | catay | ah crap .. that means fsck |
| 19:59.01 | Winny | does this stuff still happen? http://static.b92.net/pics/gallery/2008/11/819317968490ddeb65860d137911742.jpg |
| 19:59.17 | Winny | or have they bettered the transport system |
| 19:59.49 | gn00bie | Winny: it probably still happens in northern India |
| 19:59.53 | Winny | ouch |
| 20:00.16 | catay | gn00bie: oh common :p |
| 20:00.22 | gn00bie | Winny: a billion people is a lot of people |
| 20:00.28 | gn00bie | catay: :P |
| 20:00.29 | Winny | I know |
| 20:00.35 | catay | gn00bie: it's harmless :P |
| 20:00.45 | gn00bie | catay: I really like the new you |
| 20:00.52 | catay | hehe |
| 20:00.55 | gn00bie | I am glad you saw the light! |
| 20:01.15 | gn00bie | now you are pure unadulerated evil like me, in fact, you are the better me! |
| 20:01.41 | catay | weee,journal replays .. love it :P |
| 20:02.02 | catay | got tons of data on that system and no backups :) |
| 20:02.13 | ndim | Man. |
| 20:02.15 | catay | living on the edge :) |
| 20:02.18 | ndim | You need to learn about ulimit. |
| 20:02.22 | gn00bie | catay: now go buy a bike |
| 20:02.25 | catay | i know limit ;) |
| 20:02.28 | catay | ulimit |
| 20:02.31 | ndim | bike? |
| 20:02.32 | gn00bie | a litre class superbike |
| 20:02.46 | gn00bie | hayabusa maybe, and start driving it at crazy speeds |
| 20:03.09 | ndim | Much more interesting: http://www.ice.hpv.co.uk/trikes/accessories.htm#borealis |
| 20:03.12 | catay | it makes sense to me to configure it on a server , but not on a personal desktop |
| 20:03.22 | ndim | catay: configure? |
| 20:03.25 | catay | unless you do special stuff with it |
| 20:03.27 | ndim | catay: Why configure? |
| 20:03.34 | catay | put it in yourprofile |
| 20:03.42 | catay | or configure /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 20:03.44 | ndim | Just open a shell, type "ulimit -foo bar", and then run your fork bomb tests! |
| 20:03.46 | catay | ;) |
| 20:04.02 | ndim | Keeps everything in that shell, no problem. |
| 20:04.17 | catay | i know , but what's the point of running it then ? |
| 20:04.51 | catay | exaclty, none :P |
| 20:04.51 | ndim | catay: Local proof of concept, so you can let gn00bie ruin HIS system. |
| 20:05.17 | catay | you don't proof anything then as your system doesnt crash :P |
| 20:05.18 | gn00bie | ~ndim++ |
| 20:05.20 | gn00bie | ~catay++ |
| 20:05.33 | ndim | catay: No, the ulimit catches it. |
| 20:05.43 | catay | so it's not a consistent test :P |
| 20:07.35 | ndim | Hmm. This week' Oz TG appears to be cut off at the end, as if they had run out of time. |
| 20:07.41 | orange | kierra: have you looked on abebooks.com for your Lion's Paw? |
| 20:07.51 | gn00bie | is the oz TG on finalgear? |
| 20:08.22 | orange | kierra: they have one for $35, it seems |
| 20:08.45 | gn00bie | on that note |
| 20:08.48 | gn00bie | ~shake |
| 20:08.49 | purl | ACTION shakes gn00bie like a rag doll |
| 20:08.55 | gn00bie | shakes his fist |
| 20:09.06 | gn00bie | disappears |
| 20:09.07 | orange | lol |
| 20:09.16 | orange | ~factinfo shake |
| 20:09.16 | purl | shake -- last modified 3d 14h 44m 19s ago by Flash!n=jwmelto@bzflag/developer/Flash; it has been requested 372 times, last by gn00bie, 27s ago. |
| 20:10.01 | gn00bie | it is Flash I am telling you |
| 20:10.19 | orange | clearly it is flash |
| 20:10.31 | gn00bie | it is a complex interaction - he does not like my stance on pampering of DoDAs |
| 20:10.41 | gn00bie | so he spikes my ~shake |
| 20:16.24 | *** mode/##kierra [+o TheRedBaron] by ChanServ |
| 20:16.35 | TheRedBaron | gn00bie: i'm afraid I may be pampering the DoDA this week |
| 20:16.41 | TheRedBaron | it is her birthday afterall |
| 20:17.18 | TheRedBaron | does that mean i'll be kicked out of GAPOD ? |
| 20:18.10 | gn00bie | TheRedBaron: you will need a doctor's note |
| 20:18.19 | gn00bie | but we will talk about that later |
| 20:18.26 | TheRedBaron | ~shake |
| 20:18.27 | purl | ACTION shakes his booty all over town |
| 20:18.32 | gn00bie | :) |
| 20:18.35 | orange | ~factinfo shake |
| 20:18.35 | purl | shake -- last modified 2m 26s ago by TheRedBaron1!n=kemhof@75.144.224.155; it has been requested 373 times, last by TheRedBaron, 8s ago. |
| 20:18.40 | TheRedBaron | lies ! |
| 20:40.37 | catay | purl never lies! |
| 20:42.27 | ndim | OK kids, it's definitely time for me to start not just reading about but actually understanding steering geometry other chassis properties. |
| 20:43.14 | Valumzie | ok grandpa' |
| 20:44.27 | ndim | :-) |
| 20:47.25 | Valumzie | :) |
| 20:47.57 | ndim | "cornering forces, wet patches, uneven tarmac surface, debris from a bovine source, etc." |
| 20:49.19 | ndim | I like the last expression. |
| 20:54.34 | ndim | caster, camber, toe... yikes. |
| 21:39.08 | catay | quiet here .. for a change :P |
| 21:39.20 | catay | where's that little indian! |
| 21:39.22 | catay | :) |
| 21:41.53 | ndim | catay: Must be far from his computer. |
| 21:42.29 | ndim | catay: Otherwise, he'd have reacted to my mentions of vehicle design. |
| 21:42.53 | ndim | I have the feeling he cannot resist when he sees something like that :) |
| 21:50.19 | catay | not really, I was like chinese for me :P |
| 21:51.01 | orange | obama's grandmother just died |
| 21:52.53 | orange | the night before the election... wow |
| 21:53.27 | kierra | how convenient |
| 21:54.50 | orange | it's bound to have an effect |
| 22:10.37 | *** join/##kierra Abominable (n=Abominab@user-0ce2hpi.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:27.46 | ndim | "short long arm" |
| 22:27.49 | ndim | Yeah, right. |
| 22:30.53 | *** join/##kierra Abominable (n=Abominab@user-0ce2hpi.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:52.38 | *** join/##kierra ep (n=mdr@about/essy/guynextdoor/ep) |
| 22:57.59 | *** join/##kierra ep (n=mdr@ip68-97-126-55.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 23:03.37 | Valumzie | kierra ping ping ping |
| 23:03.41 | Valumzie | you have to be here!!!! |
| 23:08.29 | kierra | yes |
| 23:08.40 | kierra | whats up? |
| 23:08.43 | kierra | Valumzie: |
| 23:10.17 | Valumzie | I got my birthday present from TRB!!!! |
| 23:10.52 | Valumzie | you are going to love them :) |
| 23:16.59 | Valumzie | I guess you dont want to know what it is :) |
| 23:17.00 | Valumzie | ;) |
| 23:17.02 | Valumzie | :P |
| 23:17.11 | kierra | hehe |
| 23:17.26 | Valumzie | oh |
| 23:17.30 | Valumzie | but do you know already! |
| 23:17.31 | kierra | do you think that I don't know what it/they is/ are |
| 23:17.32 | Valumzie | ? |
| 23:17.40 | kierra | :D |
| 23:17.41 | Valumzie | two adorable kitties :D |
| 23:17.47 | kierra | YES!!!!!! |
| 23:17.50 | Valumzie | pandora and hades |
| 23:17.51 | kierra | i know |
| 23:17.54 | kierra | rofl |
| 23:17.56 | Valumzie | of course, you son picked the names :) |
| 23:18.01 | Valumzie | oh, they are so cute |
| 23:18.07 | Valumzie | you need to come over and visit them :) |
| 23:18.11 | kierra | i am sooooooo jealous |
| 23:18.26 | ndim | Hmm... kitties. |
| 23:18.30 | kierra | I told Les and the kids if he dies first I'm getting a cat |
| 23:21.46 | ndim | And after that, a tame squirrel! |
| 23:22.07 | kierra | hades is not so nice |
| 23:22.12 | kierra | Antigone! |
| 23:22.16 | kierra | or Electra |
| 23:23.09 | kierra | why did you get them today, Valumzie? |
| 23:23.50 | ndim | . o O ( to confuse me about the actual date of Valumzie's birthday ) |
| 23:24.12 | catay | poor kitties ! hopefully they don't get shot! : |
| 23:24.13 | catay | :p |
| 23:24.35 | catay | nice present tho :) |
| 23:24.40 | kierra | Valumzie: ping |
| 23:24.50 | catay | they always look cute when small :P |
| 23:25.00 | catay | wait till they are hanging in the curtains :P |
| 23:26.45 | catay | nite all |
| 23:27.28 | ndim | And biting all the cables. |
| 23:27.53 | ndim | kierra: I guess the kittens are keeping her busy :) |
| 23:32.46 | kierra | i love cats |
| 23:32.55 | kierra | but I must say, Pirate loves me |
| 23:32.59 | *** mode/##kierra [+o brad] by kierra |
| 23:33.12 | kierra | ~lart brad |
| 23:33.12 | purl | teaches brad that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 23:38.55 | Pimpi_ | what a lart |
| 23:40.01 | Valumzie | yes kierra? |
| 23:40.16 | Valumzie | we got them today cause they were ready :) |
| 23:40.21 | Valumzie | so its an early birthday present :) |
| 23:40.30 | Valumzie | ~TheRedbaron++ |
| 23:40.40 | Pimpi_ | cats? |
| 23:40.50 | Pimpi_ | has cats too |
| 23:41.01 | Valumzie | Pimpi_: TRB got me two kitties for my birthday :) |
| 23:41.17 | Pimpi_ | sweet |
| 23:42.11 | Pimpi_ | just installs windows vista ultimate |
| 23:42.28 | Pimpi_ | feels guilty |
| 23:44.28 | Valumzie | :) |
| 23:47.42 | kierra | Pimpi_: did you see my pm from yest? |
| 23:51.10 | Pimpi_ | seen it, ty :) |
| 23:51.28 | Valumzie | kierra you pinged me? |
| 23:51.32 | kierra | yes |
| 23:51.43 | kierra | will you keep those names? |
| 23:51.52 | Valumzie | yes :) |
| 23:51.56 | kierra | hades could be improved ....imho |
| 23:52.04 | Valumzie | wait until you mean Hades |
| 23:52.12 | Valumzie | it suits him perfectly |
| 23:52.16 | kierra | if she acts out her name ....you might wished you had |
| 23:52.24 | kierra | a male AND female!!!!! |
| 23:52.31 | kierra | grandkittens!!!!! |
| 23:52.40 | Valumzie | lol |
| 23:52.57 | Pimpi_ | cats need to earn their names, after a while you'll know how to call them right |
| 23:53.02 | kierra | maybe if i wish real hard, i will get one |
| 23:53.47 | Valumzie | you need to come visit those two, kierra :) |
| 23:54.58 | kierra | i will....tomorrow? |
| 23:55.06 | kierra | what does your sched look like |
| 23:57.58 | Pimpi_ | waves and goes to bed |
| 23:58.17 | Valumzie | nite nite pimpi! |
| 23:58.22 | Valumzie | kierra: i have class in the morning |
