| 00:05.04 | menotume | someone ban kierra please |
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| 00:11.56 | *** mode/##kierra [+o kierra] by ChanServ |
| 00:24.14 | gn00bie | busy mom |
| 00:24.20 | gn00bie | 20:11 <@menotume> someone ban kierra please |
| 00:24.40 | gn00bie | menotume about 20 minutes back |
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| 00:53.59 | kierra | ban? |
| 00:54.11 | *** kick/##kierra [menotume!n=jolie@c-98-230-5-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] by kierra (I'll ban you!) |
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| 00:55.48 | gn00bie | kierra: maybe |
| 00:56.56 | gn00bie | kierra: menotume is a real well wisher |
| 00:57.06 | gn00bie | he wants you to be thrown down a well |
| 01:01.57 | menotume | gn00bie is a tattle-tale |
| 01:02.25 | mviron | sends menotume < 2 lbs of stuff |
| 01:04.46 | gn00bie | menotume: I might be |
| 01:04.54 | gn00bie | I am a faithful lapdog |
| 01:04.58 | mviron | zaps gn00bie |
| 01:07.28 | menotume | <2 lbs ? priority mail ? |
| 01:08.50 | gn00bie | menotume: you have an apple, kick kierra \h |
| 01:09.52 | mviron | menotume: nope |
| 01:09.54 | mviron | ground |
| 01:10.03 | mviron | slowest possible method |
| 01:10.06 | mviron | lol |
| 01:10.23 | menotume | pony express |
| 01:10.45 | gn00bie | menotume: watching always sunny in philly, pretty good |
| 01:11.27 | mviron | menotume: nah....walking express |
| 01:11.35 | mviron | it'll take 3 months to get to you |
| 01:11.37 | mviron | lol |
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| 01:17.00 | *** topic/##kierra is Welcome:âThe zeal of friends it is that knocks me down, and not the hate of enemiesâ || "Humility doesn't baptize your inferiority complex."" |
| 01:41.45 | menotume | kierra: wake up |
| 01:48.25 | orange | menotume: go back to sleep |
| 01:49.49 | gn00bie | orange: lime and limpid green |
| 01:49.49 | kierra | menotume |
| 01:50.01 | kierra | put someone on the hitlist for me plzz |
| 01:50.15 | kierra | its in pm |
| 01:51.09 | kierra | ~wake menotume |
| 01:51.10 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on menotume and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 01:54.21 | gn00bie | you do not need to wake menotume in the pm |
| 01:54.24 | gn00bie | mostly in the am |
| 01:59.01 | Abominable | ~poke kierra |
| 01:59.01 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind kierra, pokes kierra repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 02:18.24 | Valumzie | kierra, you there? |
| 02:24.10 | gn00bie | no |
| 02:24.14 | gn00bie | menotume banned kierra |
| 02:25.24 | Valumzie | lol |
| 02:36.10 | Valumzie | I guess kierra does not want to see my parents tomorrow :P |
| 02:36.11 | Valumzie | ;) |
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| 02:57.42 | kierra | Valumzie: |
| 02:57.53 | kierra | ~pinch Abominable |
| 02:57.53 | purl | ACTION scuttles after Abominable, pinches him, and then scuttles away |
| 02:58.06 | kierra | he did NOT ban me |
| 03:00.24 | kierra | mobwars is down |
| 03:00.46 | kierra | Valumzie: I do want to see your folks tomorrw |
| 03:03.01 | kierra | Valumzie: janelle is here to skinny dip in my pool |
| 03:13.42 | gn00bie | who is janelle anyway? |
| 03:14.01 | gn00bie | I am sleepuy |
| 03:14.04 | gn00bie | later all |
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| 05:25.53 | kierra_away | gn00bie: a neighbor |
| 05:32.05 | Pimpi_ | drops all textures and streaks over mobwars |
| 05:34.04 | Pimpi_ | kierra_away: what are you doing, isn't it deep at night for you? |
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| 08:06.45 | ndim | | where the 2nd level section in my opinion should be numbered 1.2.1. |
| 08:06.45 | ndim | | instead of 1.2.2.1. |
| 08:06.49 | ndim | Meh. |
| 08:07.06 | ndim | http://www.google.com/search2001.html |
| 08:20.39 | ndim | http://blog.rhatters.org/2008/09/30/solution-to-financial-bail-out/ |
| 09:13.04 | gn00bie | ndim: basic problem with that math |
| 09:13.27 | gn00bie | 85 billion divided by 200 million = $425 each, not $425,000 |
| 09:13.51 | gn00bie | but then americans are not exactly known for their maths abilities outside of UMN, UChicago, the ivy league, etc |
| 09:21.48 | ndim | gn00bie: Hey. He's a CPA, he must be right! |
| 09:22.14 | gn00bie | ndim: epic fail :P |
| 09:22.30 | gn00bie | and to think this is a linux user |
| 09:22.40 | gn00bie | imagine what the windows users are up to! |
| 09:23.52 | ndim | Awesome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/264052 |
| 09:23.59 | ndim | good morning, gn00bie btw :) |
| 09:24.32 | gn00bie | morgen ndim |
| 09:25.44 | gn00bie | never used inkscape, is it as awesome as this guy is saying it is? |
| 09:27.01 | ndim | I have never used any of those professional programs since 1994's Professional Draw(TM). |
| 09:27.26 | ndim | That one still has a few nice ideas Inkscape has not picked up yet, but apart from that, inkscape is awesome. |
| 09:27.51 | ndim | Importing PDF vector graphics and editing them as vectors... without any of the Adobe/WIndows/etc tools is very nice. |
| 09:29.36 | ndim | Of course, there are still things like https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/165865 ... but still, all in all, it is a very nice piece of work. |
| 09:30.00 | gn00bie | ah I see |
| 09:30.04 | gn00bie | must emerge inkscape then |
| 09:30.17 | ndim | Including the awesome feature that you can call inkscape from the command line - if you need to convert *.svg into *.png e.g. |
| 09:30.23 | ndim | Or .eps or .pdf |
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| 09:30.28 | gn00bie | I must confess, I do all my "drawings" in xfig even today |
| 09:30.40 | ndim | xfig has one large advantage. |
| 09:30.46 | ndim | The integration of LaTeX |
| 09:30.51 | gn00bie | exactly |
| 09:30.57 | ndim | Apart from that... inkscape rules. |
| 09:31.27 | gn00bie | also, I like the xfig interface |
| 09:32.01 | ndim | Hmm. You can export inkscape stuff as "LaTeX with PSTricks macros"... |
| 09:32.08 | ndim | ...never used that, though. |
| 09:32.46 | gn00bie | pstricks is nice |
| 09:32.55 | gn00bie | but these days I just use pdflatex |
| 09:33.24 | gn00bie | will check out inkscape though, thanks! |
| 09:33.35 | ndim | ProDraw had this one awesome feature, though. You could e.g. draw a circle by clicking on center point and drawing out a radius, or click on one point of the circle and draw out a diameter. |
| 09:34.38 | ndim | But, and now comes the really cute part, to actually pick those points, you could just select (via the 1..9 keys) "on line", "on intersection of lines", "on corners", "on bezier handle points", "on object center", etc. |
| 09:34.55 | ndim | So you could do geometric construction really fast and easy. |
| 09:34.57 | gn00bie | ah, nice |
| 09:35.18 | ndim | I have not seen this kind of thing anywhere else ever since. |
| 09:35.22 | gn00bie | these days people confuse functional GUIs with "cute" GUIs |
| 09:35.46 | ndim | CAD software probably still has it. |
| 09:35.53 | gn00bie | xfig is uglier than a pig, but when it comes to using it |
| 09:36.12 | gn00bie | actually CATIA has turned to be a surprisingly good CAD software |
| 09:36.40 | ndim | Never heard of it. |
| 09:36.46 | gn00bie | but here is a real life story - back in 1996, the regional marketing director for some cad software was the son-in-law of the director of engineering |
| 09:36.56 | gn00bie | so we buy that some cad software |
| 09:37.11 | gn00bie | million dollar purchase back in the day since we get 35 licenses |
| 09:37.31 | gn00bie | turns out the CAD software is robust, but very very tough to do |
| 09:37.57 | gn00bie | 2004 my friend does some contract work for the maker of this CAD software, we happen to talk, and I tell him we use it |
| 09:38.13 | gn00bie | so he says - ah you must be doing a lot of cutter path generation, this software is excellent for stuff like that |
| 09:38.41 | gn00bie | me - no, we just use it for surface and solid modeling, we do not do any tool/die/speciality stuff that needs cutter path generation |
| 09:38.55 | gn00bie | my friend - you guys are retards for even thinking about it! |
| 09:39.40 | ndim | muhahaha |
| 09:40.21 | gn00bie | he tells me go use Catia (french software from dassault) |
| 09:40.41 | gn00bie | catia did not have a windows port till this latest version V5 |
| 09:40.51 | gn00bie | before that catia was strictly unix only |
| 09:41.05 | ndim | Aw, shucks. |
| 09:41.08 | gn00bie | so it was not as popular in the US market |
| 09:41.40 | gn00bie | but now with a windows port out, Ford has standardized on Catia and so have a lot of other big places |
| 09:42.07 | gn00bie | VW, Daimler are also standardized on CATIA |
| 09:42.09 | gn00bie | so is Porsche |
| 09:42.15 | ndim | Regarding any "professional" software, the only stuff I have used so far is some crap from Mentor Graphics and a few assorted tools from Altera (for FPGA and logic design). |
| 09:42.41 | gn00bie | well your stuff is EE related |
| 09:42.47 | ndim | Of course. |
| 09:42.53 | gn00bie | someone I knew worked at mentor briefly |
| 09:42.55 | ndim | So I have no idea about mechanical CAD stuff. |
| 09:43.41 | ndim | One very interesting part about those MG tools, however: They used to have this many-windows-within-the-app-window design. |
| 09:43.55 | ndim | So you spent about 80% of your time moving those little windows around. |
| 09:44.17 | gn00bie | and a few friends are doing research on design automation (Satisfiability solver and inverse Sat solvers) |
| 09:44.30 | ndim | Then suddenly (before those tiling window managers appeared in the X11 scene), they started to use tiling within their app window. |
| 09:44.39 | gn00bie | a few others are doing things like data path simulation in modern x86 chips using FPGAs |
| 09:45.28 | gn00bie | never seen MG UI, how bad is it? |
| 09:45.50 | ndim | It used to be quite bad. |
| 09:46.04 | ndim | 7 years ago. |
| 09:46.41 | ndim | But 4 or 5 years ago they switched to that tiling mechanism, and that really helped a lot. |
| 09:47.19 | gn00bie | how are the open source tools in the EE CAD area? |
| 09:47.33 | gn00bie | OrCAD is open source, right? |
| 09:47.47 | ndim | Then 3 years ago they (or Altera, I'm not quite certain) abandoned the old-style processing architecture of "do stuff in software A, process using software B, process using software C, and the burn the result on the chip". |
| 09:48.04 | gn00bie | or not, wiki tells me orcad is closed source |
| 09:48.18 | ndim | Now you have about one piece of software which does everything, and you cannot control any more what happens in each step. |
| 09:48.35 | gn00bie | that is bad |
| 09:48.37 | ndim | Now you need to trust the software to do the right thing 100%. |
| 09:48.45 | ndim | Yeah. |
| 09:49.00 | gn00bie | I would much rather have the the A|B|C workflow than one big binary blob |
| 09:49.03 | ndim | No more automatic "make" for reproducible generation of results from versioned input files. |
| 09:49.13 | gn00bie | so your focus is EDA and microarchs etc? |
| 09:49.14 | ndim | Who needs reproducible results? |
| 09:49.28 | gn00bie | yeah, reproducible results are for idiots |
| 09:49.39 | ndim | Nowadays you blame it on "computers", and reboot them, and that's it. |
| 09:49.45 | ndim | :-( |
| 09:50.08 | gn00bie | humans seem to be de-evolving as far as computer usage is concerned |
| 09:50.32 | ndim | ETOOMANYIDIOTS |
| 09:50.41 | gn00bie | sad but true |
| 09:51.47 | gn00bie | and I do not know what is worse, the Windblows user or the OSX user |
| 09:52.06 | ndim | THe Windblows user. |
| 09:52.31 | gn00bie | probably true |
| 09:52.32 | ndim | OSX users still have the expectation that things work. Windblows users just click OK and reboot. |
| 09:52.49 | gn00bie | when I woke up at 5 am today, I had slept for 14 hours out of the last 26 |
| 09:53.02 | gn00bie | muhahahahhahahahahaha |
| 09:53.53 | gn00bie | just like a large majority of drivers do not know how to drive a manual |
| 09:54.15 | gn00bie | and in the minority that does drive manuals, even smaller minority knows how to double clutch and rev match |
| 09:54.18 | ndim | I should get some practise doing that myself. |
| 09:54.27 | ndim | I have not driven a manual since 2001. |
| 09:54.32 | ndim | Not a single meter. |
| 09:54.43 | gn00bie | though my co-workers who design manual transmissions tell me that with modern synchros there is no need to double clutch |
| 09:55.12 | gn00bie | well, it is not a skill you forget, I am sure you would do fine if you had to |
| 09:55.22 | ndim | There has not been a need to double clutch for a long time. |
| 09:55.31 | gn00bie | I told catay he could drive the GTO and he did not, makes me suspect how good a manual driver is he |
| 09:55.37 | ndim | Even our 1961 Unimogs had synchronized gearboxes. |
| 09:55.53 | gn00bie | yeah, but double clutching makes the synchros last longer |
| 09:56.19 | gn00bie | though once again, our chief engineer for manual transmissions tells me that synchros will outlive the car unless blatantly abused |
| 09:56.24 | ndim | Although we had a 1978 Unimog as well with shot synchros... so we did double clutch on that one. |
| 09:57.42 | gn00bie | the chief engineer designed the manual transmission that was used with the cummins B engine in light duty trucks |
| 09:58.00 | gn00bie | maximum input torque rating of that transmission was 1,000 Nm |
| 09:58.52 | gn00bie | http://dodgeram.org/tech/transmission/nv5600_spec.html |
| 10:02.11 | ndim | 1 kNm ... I kind of remember that someone pulled a light truck transmission into performance cars a few times. |
| 10:02.38 | gn00bie | probably not this one |
| 10:03.10 | gn00bie | the gear spacing is way to wide for any performance minded driver |
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| 10:05.45 | ndim | BTW, I drove over a 1.5 mile disused cold war runway about 10 days ago. |
| 10:06.59 | ndim | They just built the Autobahn straight and level for 3km, with the central dividers removable, and two large parking lots at the ends. |
| 10:07.23 | ndim | Avoid any bridges over it, and voilà , your replacement airport is finished! |
| 10:08.17 | gn00bie | how fast did you go? |
| 10:08.29 | gn00bie | dreams about a 1.5 mile long runway |
| 10:08.30 | ndim | The 120kph speed limit |
| 10:09.23 | ndim | http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=heilbronn&ie=UTF8&ll=49.220232,8.997202&spn=0.033412,0.067377&t=h&z=14 |
| 10:11.01 | gn00bie | (10-01) 04:00 PDT Washington - -- Senate leaders called a vote for tonight on a $700 billion emergency bailout of the banking system, a move designed to give the House a political lift after the legislation's spectacular crash there on Monday. |
| 10:11.01 | ndim | The Autobahns are following strange routes many times... if you disregard the secondary use as backup military airport. |
| 10:11.11 | gn00bie | sorry about the paste |
| 10:11.43 | gn00bie | when catay was here, we had to settle for driving down this http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=tallahassee+FL&ie=UTF8&ll=30.574302,-84.20439&spn=0.00315,0.004817&t=h&z=18 |
| 10:11.59 | gn00bie | we did 200 kph down that road at 2 in the morning :D |
| 10:12.02 | ndim | http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bild:Hercules_C130_landing_on_Autobahn_DoD_DF-ST-84-09441.jpg&filetimestamp=20070804054635 |
| 10:12.40 | gn00bie | man C130 landing, that must put a tremendous stress on the road structure |
| 10:12.41 | ndim | heh |
| 10:13.01 | ndim | Well, they have built it that way. |
| 10:13.13 | ndim | Concrete blocks instead of asphalt cover e.g. |
| 10:13.30 | ndim | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn-Notlandeplatz has a few more nice pics |
| 10:13.46 | gn00bie | why is the section of you pasted earlier limited to 120 kph |
| 10:13.54 | gn00bie | looks like it could be the unlimited section |
| 10:14.39 | ndim | Those concrete blocks have edges. |
| 10:14.43 | gn00bie | ah true |
| 10:14.53 | gn00bie | that makes sense |
| 10:15.18 | gn00bie | so catay going 200 kph down a dark FL road where the speed limit is a 100 kph |
| 10:15.25 | gn00bie | then I ask catay - do you want to drive |
| 10:15.35 | gn00bie | catay - no I want to go home to mommy! |
| 10:15.40 | gn00bie | so he did not drive |
| 10:16.29 | ndim | well, you know, 200kph is not that unusual to europeans :) |
| 10:16.51 | ndim | Most cars can go that fast, and if the Autobahn is unlimited, that works out well. |
| 10:17.02 | ndim | Many trains are a lot faster than 200kph |
| 10:17.24 | ndim | So... to impress us with speed, you need an SR-71 or something :) |
| 10:17.42 | gn00bie | well, going 200 kph from 30 kph in under 15 seconds cannot be all that normal to europeans :P |
| 10:18.01 | gn00bie | with an indian on the controls of an australian car |
| 10:18.49 | gn00bie | the point is not the speed, the point is acceleration ;) |
| 10:24.29 | ndim | The point is the indian on the controls. Around here, indians are usually at the controls of pizza ovens and Citroen C1 pizza delivery cars. :) |
| 10:25.08 | gn00bie | exactly :) |
| 10:25.32 | gn00bie | all the girlies say, I am pretty fly for an Indian guy |
| 10:25.55 | gn00bie | www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7-E1qTVJgE |
| 10:25.58 | gn00bie | NSFW |
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| 10:29.43 | gn00bie | jmlopez = Jennifer M Lopez? |
| 10:29.49 | quantumdot | you wish |
| 10:30.08 | gn00bie | umm, maybe |
| 10:30.10 | quantumdot | she has nicer butt |
| 10:30.20 | gn00bie | she does have a nice butt |
| 10:30.50 | gn00bie | but she cannot use TeX and friends |
| 10:31.14 | gn00bie | so we will call it a draw |
| 10:35.13 | ndim | Yay! http://www.lostplaces.de/cms/images/stories/Artikel/nlp/a6_-1973_1.jpg |
| 10:35.23 | ndim | Good old 1960s Unimog. |
| 10:36.43 | gn00bie | they should start selling Unimogs like Hummers |
| 10:37.36 | ndim | gn00bie: http://rhein-zeitung.de/old/97/08/06/topnews/funmog.html ? :-) |
| 10:37.56 | ndim | The problem for that is that the newer Unimogs are all DEAD ugly. |
| 10:39.02 | gn00bie | ugly is good in that marker |
| 10:39.05 | gn00bie | market even |
| 10:39.10 | gn00bie | ok, now I want a funmog |
| 10:39.39 | gn00bie | you can buy used HMMWVs scrapped by the army for 10 grand or so around here |
| 10:41.10 | ndim | http://www.alfers.de/ger/unimog_1300_l_435_bundeswehr_lkw_2t.htm |
| 10:41.11 | ndim | http://www.alfers.de/ger/unimog_404_s_funkkoffer_bundeswehr.htm |
| 10:41.34 | ndim | Hmm. |
| 10:42.13 | ndim | 1978... that means they could be driven with an "H" number plate, without needing to meet the exhaust standards, and without most of the taxes... |
| 10:42.34 | gn00bie | ndim: you could be on to something |
| 10:44.10 | ndim | But you are not allowed to drive "H" vehicles unless to meetings or rallyes of historic vehicles. |
| 10:44.49 | ndim | And organizing a historic vehicle rallye every time I need to get 2 tons of concrete can get old pretty fast. |
| 10:44.58 | gn00bie | what? |
| 10:45.06 | gn00bie | are you kidding me? |
| 10:45.44 | gn00bie | so your old Benz will be relegated to that status too at some point in time? |
| 10:47.19 | ndim | Only if you drive it with an H number plate. |
| 10:47.49 | gn00bie | so is it possible to get the Unimog a non-H number plate? |
| 10:48.05 | ndim | Yeah, but that will be expensive. |
| 10:48.25 | gn00bie | humm, so no Mog for you then |
| 10:48.33 | ndim | Loads of Diesel, you won't be able to drive into an increasing number of cities and towns, and loads of taxes. |
| 10:48.52 | ndim | (Many cities have special requirements for exhaust gas quality) |
| 10:50.54 | kierra | yawn* |
| 10:52.00 | ndim | ~coffee kierra |
| 10:52.01 | purl | ACTION steals some of menotume's special coffee and gives it to kierra on a silver platter. |
| 10:52.21 | gn00bie | kierra: you woke up late |
| 10:54.30 | kierra | yes i did |
| 10:54.46 | kierra | couldnt sleep last nite, so to bed around 2am |
| 10:56.19 | gn00bie | ah ok |
| 10:56.23 | gn00bie | sorry to hear that |
| 11:01.59 | ndim | kierra: Any news on the chest pain? |
| 11:02.08 | kierra | noooo |
| 11:02.15 | kierra | its what kept me up last nite |
| 11:02.26 | kierra | i really think its stress heartburn |
| 11:03.57 | gn00bie | trb updated his facebook status - going to NY |
| 11:04.00 | gn00bie | is he? |
| 11:06.22 | kierra | hmmmm |
| 11:07.29 | kierra | i have no clue |
| 11:07.35 | kierra | move? |
| 11:09.19 | gn00bie | Kalen Emhof is going to move to NY.17 hours ago - 5 Comments |
| 11:09.29 | kierra | i saw that |
| 11:09.36 | kierra | i'll ask him today |
| 11:09.38 | gn00bie | I was wondering about that |
| 11:09.44 | kierra | me too |
| 11:09.55 | kierra | Unc Tony has been itching for him to move there |
| 11:09.59 | gn00bie | I hope he understands how tough the winters can be anywhere in NY |
| 11:10.02 | kierra | but who knows |
| 11:10.13 | kierra | yeah, the kid freezes when it hits 50 |
| 11:10.24 | gn00bie | especially for a FL kid |
| 11:10.42 | gn00bie | I guess downstate is not as bad as upstate NY, but it still gets cold |
| 11:11.09 | gn00bie | the cold, the taxes - it gets to you after a while ;) |
| 11:11.15 | kierra | well, he would be about 70 mi north of NYC |
| 11:11.21 | ndim | I also freeze when it hits 50... when I am still used to summer. |
| 11:11.34 | ndim | I start sweating when it hits 50... when I am still used to winter. |
| 11:12.49 | gn00bie | his first proper blizzard and he will be crying for mommy |
| 11:13.42 | ndim | And no alligators in the garden... that will get some taking used to. |
| 11:13.54 | gn00bie | and next to no snakes |
| 11:13.58 | catay | hi :P |
| 11:14.02 | gn00bie | catay: :P |
| 11:14.06 | gn00bie | are you back in .be? |
| 11:14.25 | catay | yeah, i just arrived home :) |
| 11:14.43 | catay | gonna go drive with my car soon |
| 11:14.48 | catay | but i can't find my keys .. |
| 11:14.59 | catay | i wonder how it will be after driving an automatic for a month |
| 11:15.08 | catay | we drove around 4500 miles :D |
| 11:15.14 | catay | well .. i did mainly :p |
| 11:15.24 | catay | Wim only drove 30 miles max on route 66 |
| 11:15.37 | ndim | lol |
| 11:15.56 | ndim | catay: Take your brother to task wrt the car keys. |
| 11:16.12 | catay | did some driving in LA Monday evening .. that was pretty scary :p |
| 11:16.35 | catay | ndim: the car is still here, that'ts already a relief :) |
| 11:17.16 | gn00bie | catay: not a big fan of LA driving |
| 11:17.32 | gn00bie | you had it easy on the way in, you got in at noon on a weekend |
| 11:17.40 | gn00bie | weekday it is a whole different story |
| 11:19.54 | catay | well we drove from Van Nuys to Santa Monica and then back close to LAX |
| 11:20.01 | catay | there was a lot of traffic |
| 11:20.32 | catay | and the exits on a US highway are sometimes pretty confussing |
| 11:20.39 | catay | specially when it comes to the lanes |
| 11:20.53 | catay | different compared to Belgium |
| 11:20.53 | gn00bie | particularly on the west coast |
| 11:20.58 | gn00bie | with the crazy left exits |
| 11:20.59 | gn00bie | and waves |
| 11:21.00 | kierra | just a note here....catay liked my driving |
| 11:21.01 | catay | yeah |
| 11:21.20 | catay | yeah, I did not notice anything wrong :P |
| 11:21.37 | catay | Eric was not really comfortable when i drove in Santa barabara :) |
| 11:21.42 | gn00bie | and a note from me too .... I did not have to hold a gun to catay's head to get him to ride in my car |
| 11:21.44 | catay | I could see it on his reactions :) |
| 11:21.45 | catay | hehe |
| 11:21.52 | gn00bie | catay: this winter, I might go to CA |
| 11:23.34 | catay | cool |
| 11:23.43 | gn00bie | now the problem is as follows, I cannot be mean to catay anymore |
| 11:23.48 | catay | I am happy i escaped out of the US, i never go back :P |
| 11:23.50 | catay | jk :) |
| 11:23.54 | gn00bie | who is going to be next victim? |
| 11:24.09 | gn00bie | Baroness is not on ##kierra often enough :P |
| 11:24.17 | catay | well, should be someone in CA :p |
| 11:24.35 | gn00bie | does a /who |
| 11:24.40 | catay | man, a decent inet connection is such a blessing |
| 11:25.03 | gn00bie | roflmao |
| 11:25.03 | catay | gonna check my bank account , i gave out a ton of money this month |
| 11:25.07 | gn00bie | yes it is |
| 11:25.22 | catay | and my bank is in trouble too because off the finacial crisis |
| 11:25.33 | ndim | Fortis? |
| 11:25.37 | catay | yeah |
| 11:25.46 | ndim | catay: Ah... so YOU brought Fortis down"! |
| 11:25.54 | catay | my money is still there :P |
| 11:26.02 | catay | everything I did was on credit :P |
| 11:27.01 | gn00bie | it has been several days since this happened |
| 11:27.01 | gn00bie | so |
| 11:27.04 | gn00bie | ~pooh Winny |
| 11:27.04 | purl | ACTION pooh poohs Winny |
| 11:27.14 | catay | yeah |
| 11:27.28 | catay | the government injected some money into it |
| 11:27.36 | catay | but it's not the only bank |
| 11:27.37 | gn00bie | it is a funny time in the financial markets right now |
| 11:27.38 | catay | dexia too |
| 11:27.56 | gn00bie | all these guys were basically cooking the books it looks like, never had the assets they said they had |
| 11:28.25 | catay | well, it was pretty revealling to see the whole thing from an US stance |
| 11:28.26 | ndim | So... the whole economy had been working on more money than there actually was there. |
| 11:28.30 | catay | on CNN, FOX ... |
| 11:29.01 | ndim | When, in principle, the central banks should be the ones to regulate the amount of money in circulation. |
| 11:29.07 | gn00bie | when I become the president, I am going to ban both CNN and Faux news |
| 11:29.21 | catay | ok .. this is great, my digipass batteries are dead |
| 11:29.33 | catay | go to bank! |
| 11:29.37 | gn00bie | what is a digipass? |
| 11:29.56 | ndim | gn00bie: You were not born in the US, so you can't become president. |
| 11:30.21 | catay | it generates a unique number used to authenticate at the banking site |
| 11:30.34 | catay | number sequence |
| 11:30.34 | gn00bie | ndim: that is just a trivial matter of a constitutional amendment |
| 11:30.52 | catay | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digipass |
| 11:30.54 | gn00bie | catay: ah, so one of those VPN type things |
| 11:31.04 | gn00bie | man, your bank is serious about security |
| 11:31.06 | ndim | gn00bie: Also known as "Lex Schwarzenegger"? |
| 11:31.22 | catay | well, you can conpare it these RSA tokens |
| 11:31.27 | catay | compare with |
| 11:31.38 | gn00bie | good to know |
| 11:31.49 | gn00bie | this is safer than houses from a security standpoint |
| 11:31.59 | gn00bie | ndim: perhaps ;) |
| 11:32.22 | catay | yeah it's pretty save i suppose |
| 11:32.26 | catay | ok, gonna go to the bank |
| 11:32.30 | catay | need to find car keys first :P |
| 11:32.34 | ndim | Haha |
| 11:32.38 | ndim | Short it. |
| 11:32.52 | gn00bie | catay: what I did with my banking account is - they gave me a visa card - I "lost" it, so they gave me another one |
| 11:33.17 | gn00bie | so for authentication, the old visa 16 digit number is used |
| 11:33.26 | gn00bie | for actual transactions, the new 16 digit number is used |
| 11:33.54 | gn00bie | I have both of them memorized, and I never do any banking type stuff from a computer I do not control |
| 11:34.05 | catay | same here |
| 11:34.16 | gn00bie | so poor man's security because banks around here are too cheap to spend for RSA token type things |
| 11:34.20 | catay | I only use my visa with paypal online |
| 11:34.25 | Manu | ~coffee kierra |
| 11:34.26 | purl | ACTION steals some of AHA's special coffee and gives it to kierra on a silver platter. |
| 11:34.38 | catay | In the US it's the first time I used VISA so frequently |
| 11:34.42 | gn00bie | god help me if I forget the old 16 digit number though |
| 11:34.46 | catay | which somehow scares me a bit |
| 11:34.50 | gn00bie | I stick with cash where possible |
| 11:35.15 | gn00bie | because you can do a lot of damage with the visa card number only |
| 11:35.18 | catay | i have a feeling the bank will be closed |
| 11:35.31 | catay | damn slackers |
| 11:35.57 | gn00bie | catay: you sound like an american now |
| 11:36.08 | kierra | ty Manu |
| 11:36.21 | catay | well, they don't pick up the phone |
| 11:54.51 | gn00bie | shower check |
| 11:54.57 | gn00bie | I should be at work by 8:30 at this pace |
| 11:59.35 | gn00bie | clean undies check |
| 12:02.38 | gn00bie | matching socks check |
| 12:13.45 | catay | omg,you are extremely early |
| 12:13.54 | catay | Val wont be proud on you :P |
| 12:22.12 | ndim | Hmm. Banks like "Hypo Real Estate" should more properly be named "Hypo Imaginary Estate", I guess. |
| 12:22.41 | gn00bie | catay: I know :P |
| 12:23.44 | gn00bie | yup, I ironed a pair of trousers that needed to be washed |
| 12:23.45 | gn00bie | good work gn00bie |
| 12:34.10 | catay | tries to imagine gn00bie ironing :P |
| 12:36.19 | gn00bie | wWI am a good boi |
| 12:41.14 | gn00bie | ok then |
| 12:41.16 | gn00bie | ~shake catay |
| 12:41.17 | purl | ACTION shakes catay vigorously and hangs him out to dry |
| 12:41.18 | gn00bie | ~shake |
| 12:41.18 | purl | ACTION shakes his booty all over town |
| 12:41.24 | catay | hf :P |
| 13:08.56 | ndim | Gnargh. I hate heisenbugs. |
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| 14:35.02 | kierra | hugs quantumdot |
| 14:47.18 | *** topic/##kierra by kierra -> Welcome:âThe zeal of friends it is that knocks me down, and not the hate of enemiesâ || "Humility doesn't baptize your inferiority complex." || âIt is better to be looked over than overlooked.â |
| 15:04.08 | menotume | gn00bie: why did you ? |
| 15:14.13 | menotume | ~dict beige |
| 15:14.27 | menotume | ~dict 1 beige |
| 15:14.33 | menotume | ~dict 3 beige |
| 15:14.41 | menotume | ~dict 4 beige |
| 15:14.46 | menotume | ~dict 5 beige |
| 15:14.52 | menotume | ok then :P |
| 15:15.31 | menotume | ~dict kierra |
| 15:23.46 | kierra | i am above definition |
| 15:23.51 | kierra | just ask quantumdot |
| 15:23.53 | menotume | riiiight |
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| 15:24.21 | *** mode/##kierra [+o Pimpi] by ChanServ |
| 15:24.36 | kierra | ~beer pimpi |
| 15:24.36 | purl | ACTION pours a quart of Dogfishhead 90min IPA for pimpi |
| 15:28.06 | kierra | ~dict menotume |
| 15:28.13 | kierra | i knew it! |
| 15:33.17 | Pimpi | lol |
| 15:33.58 | kierra | :) hello Pimpi |
| 15:34.10 | Pimpi | hello kierra |
| 15:34.22 | Pimpi | you were late up last night |
| 15:34.26 | Pimpi | almost early |
| 15:34.31 | kierra | yes, i was |
| 15:34.58 | kierra | couldn't sleep |
| 15:41.39 | mviron | hugs kierra |
| 15:41.50 | kierra | ty mviron |
| 15:44.43 | quantumdot | i even saw her GU matching !!! |
| 15:44.48 | quantumdot | hides again |
| 15:45.02 | kierra | quantumdot: you aren't around when i match |
| 15:45.07 | kierra | I match plenty |
| 15:45.13 | kierra | for my team's activity |
| 15:45.27 | kierra | are you suggesting I leave FF for a more active team?????? |
| 15:45.58 | kierra | it's you who are rarely on..... by your own admission |
| 15:46.10 | quantumdot | touche |
| 15:46.18 | kierra | Dont open pandora's box.....i am locked and loaded |
| 15:46.30 | quantumdot | ok |
| 15:46.53 | kierra | i match and i challenge anyone who says contrary!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:46.56 | quantumdot | sits an elephant over pandora's box lip |
| 15:46.59 | quantumdot | lid* |
| 15:48.38 | kierra | elephants are child's play |
| 15:49.43 | kierra | probably the 2 people who know me best are ATG and menotume |
| 15:49.47 | kierra | ask them |
| 15:50.11 | quantumdot | sits menotume and ATG on pandora's box lid |
| 15:50.20 | kierra_away | coward |
| 15:50.31 | quantumdot | sigh |
| 15:50.55 | quantumdot | i better step out now |
| 15:50.57 | kierra_away | no |
| 15:51.10 | kierra_away | i'm writing something in spanish |
| 15:51.13 | quantumdot | from whoever feet I stepped on |
| 15:51.15 | kierra_away | just a sec |
| 15:51.38 | menotume | "contrary" |
| 15:51.43 | kierra_away | goes for a dictionary |
| 15:51.57 | *** kick/##kierra [menotume!n=jolie@c-98-230-5-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] by kierra_away (kierra_away) |
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| 15:51.58 | menotume | yes, kierra actually MATCHED yesterday |
| 15:52.07 | kierra_away | oh for petes sakes |
| 15:52.12 | menotume | you should have seen all the OBS, they couldn't believe it |
| 15:52.16 | kierra_away | you can all jump in the lake |
| 15:52.22 | menotume | weeeeee |
| 15:52.28 | *** part/##kierra kierra_away (n=jolie@c-98-230-5-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 15:52.32 | menotume | lol |
| 15:52.40 | menotume | how old is she? 10 ? |
| 15:52.47 | quantumdot | reads Chaotic destruction of Anderson localization in a nonlinear lattice |
| 15:52.58 | menotume | that's a good read |
| 15:53.17 | menotume | except not enough se in it for me |
| 15:53.20 | menotume | sex |
| 15:53.34 | quantumdot | new kick comes |
| 15:53.55 | menotume | Schrödinger is one of my favs |
| 15:54.53 | quantumdot | well, this is all about it |
| 15:55.37 | menotume | bifurcation destruction is great |
| 16:03.44 | quantumdot | dont tell me you google it? |
| 16:03.50 | quantumdot | menotume: |
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| 19:46.41 | brad | ~lart catay |
| 19:46.41 | purl | squishes catay like a bug |
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| 23:47.47 | Abominable | Heya Kierra |
| 23:48.27 | kierra | hi Abominable |
| 23:48.33 | Abominable | How are ya? |
| 23:48.38 | kierra | i'm ok |
| 23:48.41 | kierra | :) |
| 23:48.47 | kierra | tired |
