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| 01:31.28 | Tekcub | god people are fucking stupid |
| 01:31.49 | ckknight | oh? |
| 01:32.01 | Tekcub | I install Call to arms... set up a broadcast "Level 60 Hunter LFG blah blah blah blah" |
| 01:32.24 | Tekcub | I get two tells like instanly "Can I join your group?" |
| 01:32.32 | Tekcub | from othe 60 hunters |
| 01:33.12 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:36.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:36.19 | kergoth | call to arms is nice though |
| 01:38.16 | cladhaire | haha |
| 01:39.06 | Tem | I can't decide on a theme though |
| 01:39.32 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:39.35 | cladhaire | <-- using oxygen atm |
| 01:43.52 | Tem | yeah looks like that's what I'm going to be using |
| 01:45.48 | Tem | now if I can just figure out how to force it to show me ":)" instead of "Smiley" I'll be happy |
| 01:58.05 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 02:24.38 | ckknight | server split? |
| 02:24.38 | GenNMX|Thrae | Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: phyber, Tain, purl, cladhaire, kergoth |
| 02:24.38 | GenNMX|Thrae | 22:28 -!- Netsplit over |
| 02:52.24 | ckknight | *sigh* uploading stuff to WoWI is such a pain sometimes |
| 02:52.29 | ckknight | I have 9 things to do now... |
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| 03:47.41 | cladhaire | Tem: Around? |
| 03:48.41 | cladhaire | Kergoth, Tain, anyone? |
| 03:49.14 | Tekcub | nope! |
| 03:50.24 | cladhaire | DAMN THEM ALL |
| 03:50.24 | cladhaire | Ok |
| 03:50.28 | cladhaire | I have a dilemma with versioning. |
| 03:50.57 | cladhaire | In my embedded StickyFrames/AceHooks, MAJOR_VERSION is currently a number, i.e 1.3, 1.4, etc. |
| 03:51.07 | cladhaire | My problem is.. then I can't go to 1.10 |
| 03:51.11 | cladhaire | and 1.0 shows and just 1 |
| 03:51.25 | ckknight | see, that's why I have BossPanelUtils.VersionToNumber("version") |
| 03:51.27 | cladhaire | I can make them strings, but then the "Require" statements need to be strings as well |
| 03:51.46 | ckknight | "1.3" would turn into 10300 |
| 03:52.02 | cladhaire | well that's not my issue |
| 03:52.06 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:52.22 | cladhaire | my issue is, StickyFrames:GetInstance(1.3) versus StickyFrames:GetInstance("1.3") |
| 03:52.23 | ckknight | versions aren't fun sometimes |
| 03:52.45 | ckknight | what's so bad about using the string? |
| 03:52.49 | cladhaire | nothing |
| 03:52.53 | cladhaire | if there's nothign bad about it =) |
| 03:53.07 | ckknight | you could also use a version number instead, e.g. StickFrames.GetInstance(10300) |
| 03:53.52 | cladhaire | true.. I suppose that could work-- but they could easily get confused with WoW toc versino numbers. |
| 03:54.30 | ckknight | they should realize there's a difference and there are multiple different versions out there, one for WoW, one for Ace or whatever you're doing |
| 03:54.58 | cladhaire | that would be nice |
| 03:55.23 | ckknight | I like to force things on people, jolt em around a bit, and provide good API documentation |
| 03:55.48 | cladhaire | lol |
| 03:56.48 | kergoth | "Well, Peter, You've only got 2 hours left. If you're gonna pull a party out of your ass, you might want to go ahead and stand up." |
| 03:56.59 | cladhaire | KERGOTH |
| 03:57.00 | ckknight | ah, don't tell me! |
| 03:57.02 | cladhaire | make this decision for me. |
| 03:57.29 | cladhaire | using the embed framework.. I need to specify a major and minor versino number.. minor is simple. |
| 03:57.57 | cladhaire | I need to decide how to do the Major versino number.. should i do something like 10000, 10900, 11000, etc. or should i use strings, i.e. "1.0, "1.9", "1.10", ? |
| 03:58.02 | ckknight | you do realize it's major.minor.revision.trivial, right? |
| 03:58.18 | cladhaire | ckknight: In your world it is.. and mine happens to be similar-- but no its not. |
| 03:58.23 | ckknight | also major.minor.revision.build |
| 03:58.36 | kergoth | HMMM |
| 03:58.39 | cladhaire | it kinda decides how StickyFrames:GetInstance() gets called, StickyFrames:GetInstance(1.3) versus GetInstance("1.3") |
| 03:58.42 | ckknight | Wikipedia agrees with me :-P |
| 03:59.00 | cladhaire | ckknight: I develop software. I know what you're talking about, and its typically correct. but wikipedia doesn't govern the world. |
| 03:59.06 | kergoth | hm? there's no standard versioning scheme |
| 03:59.10 | cladhaire | exactly |
| 03:59.11 | ckknight | right, Microsoft does |
| 03:59.15 | ckknight | I go by what they say |
| 03:59.15 | kergoth | udev using a singe monotonically increasing number |
| 03:59.16 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:59.21 | cladhaire | Fuck microsoft. |
| 03:59.23 | ckknight | yea, I don't like that |
| 03:59.27 | ckknight | what's it up to now? 70 or so? |
| 03:59.34 | ckknight | such harsh language, cladhaire |
| 03:59.44 | cladhaire | How about tEx, which is using version numbers that approach Pi? |
| 03:59.48 | cladhaire | ckknight: I tend to do that. |
| 03:59.59 | kergoth | udev? 70? hah |
| 04:00.07 | kergoth | its in the hundreds |
| 04:00.08 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:00.11 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:00.21 | ckknight | it was at 58 last I checked, so I took a stab in the dark |
| 04:00.30 | cladhaire | So what do we think Kergy? |
| 04:00.34 | ckknight | sadly, I missed and no delicious blood was spilled |
| 04:00.50 | kergoth | are we talking about a decision for the framework itself, or the stickyframes incarnation? |
| 04:00.57 | cladhaire | StickyFrames and AceHooks |
| 04:01.02 | cladhaire | and more in general, I like general cases |
| 04:01.19 | cladhaire | the issues with numerics is 1.0 == 1, which make displaying version name/number difficult without a conversion function |
| 04:01.45 | ckknight | %.1f? |
| 04:02.09 | ckknight | also an issue is that 1.1 == 1.10 |
| 04:02.12 | kergoth | one thing that most dont consider is the fact that theres a big difference between library versioning and the versioning of the package itself |
| 04:02.27 | kergoth | s/package/project/ |
| 04:02.34 | kergoth | purl: thanks |
| 04:02.34 | purl | kergoth: no problem |
| 04:02.44 | ckknight | purl: dance |
| 04:02.48 | purl | ACTION becomes steve ballmer |
| 04:02.49 | ckknight | ... |
| 04:02.51 | ckknight | wow |
| 04:02.54 | kergoth | .. |
| 04:02.54 | ckknight | it did it |
| 04:03.00 | ckknight | developers. |
| 04:03.12 | ckknight | how, on-topic |
| 04:03.32 | cladhaire | Hence why I tend to go towards "1.10" |
| 04:03.35 | ckknight | think of the developers, cladhaire |
| 04:03.40 | kergoth | cladhaire: i'd say just go with a string. thats all an api version generally is anyway, a unique identifier. |
| 04:03.55 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 04:03.58 | cladhaire | ckknight: Its really a minor difference when it comes down to it.. all they do is match their require with my major version |
| 04:04.15 | kergoth | minor needs to be able to do comparisons, but not so with major |
| 04:04.35 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 04:04.43 | cladhaire | yeah, thats why i had it as a string |
| 04:04.48 | cladhaire | but i'm scared now that tem is moving it into the wild =) |
| 04:04.51 | kergoth | to compare with usages in C libraries in open source, the major version here would be the '2.0' in pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0, or in -lglib-2.0 |
| 04:04.56 | kergoth | its just a string there as well |
| 04:05.28 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 04:05.36 | cladhaire | I originally had full StickyFrames-1.0 |
| 04:05.42 | cladhaire | but moved away from that.. cause it was redundant. |
| 04:08.40 | CIA-7 | 03cladhaire * r981 10Ace/AceHook.lua: Updated MAJOR_VERSION to "1.3" as a string. :GetInstance now will require that specific string. |
| 04:08.47 | ckknight | I'd go with the string |
| 04:08.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:09.08 | ckknight | if you're just comparing equality, it'll be for the best |
| 04:13.47 | cladhaire | Its a table key when it comes down to it.. so the less ambiguous the better |
| 04:23.39 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 04:31.50 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.47 | ckknight | oh wow, the end of the Simpsons was priceless |
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| 04:59.32 | kergoth | ~emulate gir |
| 04:59.40 | purl | you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way. |
| 05:04.18 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 05:04.21 | purl | I didn't know there was a 5 A.M. mass. I didn't even know there was a 5 A.M. What else haven't you told me!? |
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| 05:33.36 | pagefault_ | wow |
| 05:33.43 | pagefault_ | new ati drivers rock with WoW in linux |
| 05:34.13 | ckknight | oh? |
| 05:34.53 | pagefault_ | they finally fixed the VBO problems |
| 05:35.06 | ckknight | VBO? |
| 05:35.16 | pagefault_ | an opengl extension used to send vertex data to the card |
| 05:35.18 | pagefault_ | it was slow before |
| 05:36.40 | ckknight | ATI doesn't like my monitor setup |
| 05:36.54 | pagefault_ | do you get corruption? |
| 05:37.07 | ckknight | no, just resolution issues |
| 05:37.12 | pagefault_ | oh |
| 05:37.18 | pagefault_ | I can't even get dual monitor working |
| 05:37.39 | ckknight | yea, I have a 1280x800 laptop with a 1024x768 external that I use as my main |
| 05:40.05 | kergoth | there are times when i really love having my rogue as a combat build |
| 05:40.17 | kergoth | and utterly annihilating 3 mobs of my level simultaniously is one of them |
| 05:40.57 | Tem | lol that's all I do with my mage |
| 05:41.01 | Tem | aoe ftw |
| 05:41.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:19.17 | kergoth | gah! |
| 06:19.30 | kergoth | i hate it when i forget i have rez sickness, and attack not one, but two mobs |
| 06:21.26 | kergoth | you'd think i'd learn, eventually |
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| 07:25.54 | Tekcub | you know... it's kinda funny... if I'm working on one of my BP plugins or such and cause an error or something that makes it not load, all the plugins written by bossman forget their location an reset to defaults |
| 07:26.13 | Tekcub | all the ones that I or someone else wrote stay where I had them |
| 07:26.38 | Tekcub | like, I think it's ones that store their savedvars in BP not in their own mods that are doing it |
| 07:26.53 | [MoonWolf] | could be. |
| 07:26.58 | [MoonWolf] | but on the other hand |
| 07:27.08 | [MoonWolf] | WHY would they lose their data to begin with |
| 07:27.11 | Tekcub | and it's getting kinda annoying resetting my bar all the damn time |
| 07:27.20 | Tekcub | yea moon, /agree |
| 07:28.01 | Tekcub | I mean, they're forgetting if they're set left/right also, the clock keeps going back to it's default on the right |
| 07:28.07 | [MoonWolf] | When i first started playing with savedvars and the ace database thingy i did some weird things but never did i manage to completely erase my data for no good reason. |
| 07:29.21 | Tekcub | I think it boils down to Bossman's fasination with resetting the panel all the damn time :P |
| 07:29.32 | Tekcub | oh maybe it's a bug, but I vote the former |
| 07:30.05 | [MoonWolf] | could be, oh my gosh possible data corruptions FORMAT C: AND REINSTALL WINDOWS |
| 07:30.32 | Tekcub | *snicker* very well put |
| 07:31.03 | Tekcub | Durability doesn't lose it's settings... |
| 07:31.41 | [MoonWolf] | Your durability or his ? |
| 07:32.26 | Tekcub | his |
| 07:32.38 | Tekcub | and hrm... both dura and loc have their own DB |
| 07:32.49 | Tekcub | and loc is forgetting... ugh |
| 07:33.17 | [MoonWolf] | and bosspanel started out so promising. |
| 07:33.34 | Tekcub | :P he's in the channel you moron |
| 07:33.35 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:33.47 | Tekcub | just weird behavior boss |
| 07:33.54 | ckknight | I don't reset the panel |
| 07:34.02 | ckknight | I stopped doing that a while ago |
| 07:34.06 | Tekcub | half my plugins like to forget their location, and every one of em is one of yours |
| 07:34.13 | ckknight | damn |
| 07:34.15 | ckknight | it's a bug, then |
| 07:34.30 | Tekcub | and I can't pin down when it happens, but I think it's if a plugin errors.. |
| 07:34.32 | ckknight | I think an issue with the LoadOnDemand stuff |
| 07:34.43 | Tekcub | hrm.... could be |
| 07:34.59 | Tekcub | is dura not LoD but clock and loc and perf are? |
| 07:35.18 | ckknight | right |
| 07:35.26 | Tekcub | then I but it is a LoD issue |
| 07:35.28 | ckknight | wait |
| 07:35.31 | Tekcub | *bet |
| 07:35.35 | ckknight | dura might be LoD |
| 07:35.43 | ckknight | it happens after an error? |
| 07:36.11 | Tekcub | mine isn't LoD, but it's not updated |
| 07:36.18 | Tekcub | I think it does... |
| 07:36.27 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:36.44 | Tekcub | When I disabled Titan ItemDed started throwing errors... I havn't fixed it yet so I disabled it... |
| 07:36.56 | Tekcub | befroe I did tho, those mods kept forgetting |
| 07:37.02 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:37.06 | ckknight | yea, it's an issue |
| 07:37.13 | Tekcub | I jjust logged over to my mule and it forgot there too |
| 07:37.21 | ckknight | there's a BossPanel waiting to go through now, actually |
| 07:37.27 | Tekcub | I didn't see an error that time, but who knows |
| 07:37.28 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:37.52 | Tekcub | didn't notice really till I logged back to my main |
| 07:48.00 | tekkub | http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/mobs/zone87.html |
| 07:48.05 | tekkub | who sees the pattern? |
| 07:48.29 | tekkub | slightly continued here as well http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/mobs/zone86.html |
| 07:49.21 | [MoonWolf] | i see a pattern, but not the point you are trying to make... |
| 07:49.38 | tekkub | s/pattern/reference |
| 07:49.57 | [MoonWolf] | oh god |
| 07:50.03 | tekkub | :) |
| 07:50.03 | [MoonWolf] | i see it now |
| 07:50.06 | tekkub | see it now? |
| 07:50.10 | tekkub | hehe |
| 07:50.13 | [MoonWolf] | how the hello did i miss that. |
| 07:50.20 | tekkub | *grin* |
| 07:50.21 | [MoonWolf] | s/llo/ll/ |
| 07:50.27 | tekkub | Teal'c is there too |
| 07:50.39 | ckknight | what's the reference? |
| 07:50.49 | [MoonWolf] | stargate sg 1 |
| 07:50.54 | [MoonWolf] | character names. |
| 07:50.57 | [MoonWolf] | hammond |
| 07:51.11 | [MoonWolf] | O'neal |
| 07:51.18 | [MoonWolf] | karter |
| 07:51.19 | [MoonWolf] | etc |
| 07:52.15 | [MoonWolf] | where is teal'c ? |
| 07:52.21 | tekkub | anagram |
| 07:52.46 | tekkub | Clate |
| 07:52.48 | [MoonWolf] | aha |
| 07:53.07 | [MoonWolf] | maybe they thought teal'c would be to obvious. |
| 07:53.53 | tekkub | ya |
| 08:04.39 | kergoth | hehe, just got a second pair of these boots from rotgrip. nobody needed them and i won the greed roll. guess i'll throw spurs on the second set and use itemrack to swap em |
| 08:05.57 | kergoth | i must be hallucinating, but i swear, sometimes when i'm in battle, i hear a sound that sounds exactly like Deekin from neverwinter nights saying "hooray!" |
| 08:06.05 | kergoth | its weird. |
| 08:09.20 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 08:24.45 | id` | morning |
| 08:40.04 | [MoonWolf] | morning |
| 08:43.27 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/windows/ |
| 08:43.32 | id` | handy dandy windows apps |
| 08:43.43 | id` | if anyone has more feel please please PM me |
| 08:43.48 | [MoonWolf] | allsnap / |
| 08:43.49 | [MoonWolf] | ?* |
| 08:43.52 | id` | because im stuck in windows all day |
| 08:43.56 | id` | try it :] |
| 08:44.00 | id` | makes your windows snap |
| 08:44.15 | [MoonWolf] | dont need that |
| 08:44.25 | [MoonWolf] | i only use stuff maximized |
| 08:44.38 | id` | [MoonWolf]: that's why it's called windows |
| 08:44.47 | [MoonWolf] | my shell provides me with 4 virtual desktops. |
| 08:44.52 | id` | [MoonWolf]: anyway, it uses 0 ram and is freeware |
| 08:44.58 | [MoonWolf] | what does the mem thing do ? |
| 08:44.58 | id` | multidesk gives me 9 |
| 08:45.04 | id` | show your mem left |
| 08:45.16 | [MoonWolf] | im only an edit of an .rc file away of more |
| 08:45.19 | id` | these are really tiny good apps :P |
| 08:45.34 | kergoth | multidesk is great, use that at work. though i just use bb4win at home |
| 08:45.46 | [MoonWolf] | bb4win here too |
| 08:46.08 | [MoonWolf] | i used to use litestep but development on it has ceased so i switched. |
| 08:55.30 | pagefault | osn' |
| 08:55.36 | pagefault | isn't there a powertoy for desktops |
| 09:38.39 | id` | yeah but it sucks |
| 09:38.49 | id` | you cant move windows from one to another |
| 09:38.56 | id` | and this one supports 9 desktops, not 4 :P |
| 09:50.15 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/windows/ |
| 09:50.18 | id` | html |
| 09:50.19 | id` | :E |
| 09:57.49 | [MoonWolf] | are you bored ? |
| 10:01.50 | id` | monday morning 10:00 |
| 10:01.54 | id` | dahh? |
| 10:01.56 | id` | :D |
| 10:07.35 | [MoonWolf] | 11 now :P |
| 10:08.50 | tekkub | whee, got timers and chat warnings working, now I just need to add the icon and maybe rip off Cooldown Pulse's... pulsing... |
| 10:09.08 | tekkub | then I just gotta convert the CTRA mods to work with my framework :) |
| 10:10.28 | [MoonWolf] | cooldownpulse |
| 10:10.59 | tekkub | yea, I figger what better thing to add to a bossmod than a pulsing icon to grab your attention :) |
| 10:11.56 | id` | screenshots! |
| 10:11.56 | id` | :p |
| 10:12.01 | id` | no better, fraps! |
| 10:12.13 | tekkub | oh what do you care, you don't even play :P |
| 10:12.24 | [MoonWolf] | what is six inches long, hard and fun to play with in bed ? |
| 10:12.48 | id` | flashlight? |
| 10:12.51 | [MoonWolf] | A gameboy! |
| 10:13.28 | id` | [MoonWolf]: a GameBoy (tm), or a gameboy (tm). |
| 10:13.45 | [MoonWolf] | ??? |
| 10:14.17 | id` | gameboy, dat kan je ook op verschillende manieren opvatten he :P |
| 10:14.28 | [MoonWolf] | oh ja...hehe |
| 10:14.32 | id` | :P |
| 10:39.31 | [MoonWolf] | two days till oblivion! |
| 10:40.06 | Wobin_ | Elder Scrolls? |
| 10:40.10 | [MoonWolf] | yes |
| 10:40.19 | Wobin_ | ooo |
| 10:40.34 | Wobin_ | Not that I'll have the equipment capable of playing it anytime soon =P |
| 10:40.38 | Wobin_ | But still, ooooo |
| 10:40.42 | [MoonWolf] | i have |
| 10:40.45 | [MoonWolf] | and i will |
| 10:52.40 | Fritti | oblivion is not online, is it? |
| 10:52.55 | Fritti | I so totally missed morrowind |
| 10:53.36 | [MoonWolf] | nope |
| 10:53.38 | [MoonWolf] | its offline |
| 11:20.56 | Wobin_ | Oh Boots of Blinding Speed, how I miss you =P |
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| 11:23.08 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 11:24.23 | Wobin_ | Most brilliant concept ever =) |
| 11:25.50 | id` | In AO i am a fixer. |
| 11:26.02 | id` | hugs* |
| 11:26.11 | id` | you can basically outrun anything :P |
| 11:26.50 | id` | There are mission termianls for instanced misssions. they have rewards and cash. run in the instance grab the item and run out == cash + item |
| 11:27.00 | id` | It's called 'blitzing' |
| 11:27.01 | id` | :D |
| 11:29.05 | [MoonWolf] | only 7 reboots sofar |
| 11:42.06 | Wobin_ | Amazing. I spend something around 20c on a bag of veges |
| 11:42.14 | Wobin_ | I love the prices here |
| 11:52.36 | id` | 20c -_^ |
| 11:52.40 | id` | no wai |
| 11:52.49 | id` | Where is here? |
| 11:52.55 | id` | like china or something? lol |
| 11:53.17 | id` | or uh, thailand |
| 11:53.25 | id` | (going there this summer :]) |
| 11:53.33 | [MoonWolf] | china id` |
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| 11:58.39 | id` | Huzzah! I am Weezard, the intarweb mindreader! |
| 11:59.04 | id` | (I also do magic shows, call 888-weezard) |
| 12:02.34 | Wobin_ | Aye, China id =) |
| 12:07.14 | [MoonWolf] | how is the chinese goldfarmer rate there Wobin_ ? |
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| 12:42.45 | Wobin_ | profitable! |
| 12:43.12 | Wobin_ | I actually get better deals from CGFs by talking to them in mandarin |
| 12:47.55 | Firedancer | hehe. using phraSES FROM THAT POST ON THE FORUMS? |
| 12:48.02 | Firedancer | sorry caps |
| 12:48.05 | Firedancer | stupid laptop |
| 12:49.12 | Wobin_ | There's a post? |
| 12:49.19 | Wobin_ | No =) using real mandarin =P |
| 12:49.59 | Firedancer | oh! |
| 12:50.18 | Firedancer | shifta or someone posted a list of phrases for communicating with farmers or something |
| 12:50.31 | Firedancer | do you know mandarin? or using babelfish?\ |
| 12:50.32 | Wobin_ | general? |
| 12:50.42 | Wobin_ | I'm learning it here, in Beijing =) |
| 12:51.51 | Firedancer | ah very cool :) |
| 12:52.04 | Firedancer | it's a post titled Farmer Speak on the addon request forum |
| 12:53.53 | Wobin_ | wowace? wow forums? |
| 12:54.32 | Wobin_ | aha wowace |
| 12:55.08 | [MoonWolf] | someone here is eating all the bandwith |
| 12:55.12 | [MoonWolf] | REALLy eating all of it. |
| 12:55.13 | Firedancer | oh yeah sorry. didn't think to specify since in ace channel :D |
| 12:55.25 | Firedancer | eh? |
| 12:56.12 | [MoonWolf] | my current download speed is 3,95 kB/s |
| 12:57.17 | Firedancer | hope it isn't me.playing wow on pc with browser/irc on laptop. |
| 13:01.57 | Wobin_ | That list isn't too bad at all |
| 13:02.24 | Firedancer | wasn't sure how accurate it was, but it seemed useful |
| 13:03.45 | Wobin_ | It's fairly accurate |
| 13:04.00 | Wobin_ | Majority of it is true |
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| 14:20.08 | Ulti | hey.. anyone here? |
| 14:21.00 | [MoonWolf] | i a |
| 14:21.02 | [MoonWolf] | am* |
| 14:21.16 | Ulti | forums are working normally for you right? |
| 14:22.46 | [MoonWolf] | yes they are. |
| 14:23.25 | Ulti | I'm getting "phpBB : Critical Error" (! is not even in use any longer is it?).. tried three different browser, clearing cache + cookies, rebooting, rebooting modem + router and flushing my dns... still I get phpBB error, and it has happened on other sites for me before |
| 14:24.01 | [MoonWolf] | there is NO i repeat no phpbb on that server. |
| 14:24.30 | Ulti | ye, that's what's so funny, I even get different VALUE codes each time I call the /forums/ part |
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| 14:25.13 | Ulti | example1: "NSERT INTO phpbb_sessions (session_id, session_user_id, session_start, session_time, session_ip, session_page, session_logged_in, session_admin) VALUES ('bd7e41c4d2710a7897b59c5e2ce86c91', -1, 1142863492, 1142863492, '51d8deab', 0, 0, 0)" |
| 14:25.29 | [MoonWolf] | dns issue most likely |
| 14:25.30 | [MoonWolf] | http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html |
| 14:25.36 | [MoonWolf] | go there and use it to visit the site. |
| 14:26.36 | Ulti | working... now the interesting part is why my dns servers hasn't updated for a few days then |
| 14:26.56 | [MoonWolf] | yeah |
| 14:27.10 | [MoonWolf] | xp ? |
| 14:27.16 | Ulti | 2k |
| 14:27.53 | [MoonWolf] | Start>run>cmd ipconfig /flushdns |
| 14:28.17 | Ulti | first thing I did -_- |
| 14:28.28 | [MoonWolf] | weird |
| 14:28.43 | Ulti | what's quite intriguing as well imo is that those error messages are not created on my machine, I actually recieve those pages from some place, at least according to ethereal (packet sniffer) |
| 14:28.59 | [MoonWolf] | they are coming from the old host most likely |
| 14:29.06 | [MoonWolf] | we switched to hosting by wowi |
| 14:29.25 | Ulti | sounds reasonable indeed |
| 14:29.28 | [MoonWolf] | but the old host propably still hosting the broken stuff. |
| 14:30.19 | [MoonWolf] | so you have a problem with your isp dns. |
| 14:31.48 | otravi | Ulti: change dns server :) |
| 14:31.49 | otravi | I had the same problem a couple of days ago |
| 14:32.04 | Ulti | yeah, trying to make it switch atm, but I think my router is spooking a bit |
| 14:33.12 | Tain | Don't take that kind of sass from your router. |
| 14:33.48 | [MoonWolf] | kick it untill it works! |
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| 14:37.30 | Ulti|| | ....no luck, hmm |
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| 14:39.29 | Ulti|| | guessing my router has some evil dns-cache as well |
| 14:39.50 | [MoonWolf] | unless your router happens to be a linksys i cant help there |
| 14:40.21 | Ulti|| | no, have a netgear rp114 |
| 14:41.35 | Ulti|| | think I'll just try and shut it off for a minute or so, only tried rebooting it so far |
| 14:41.53 | [MoonWolf] | i had that once |
| 14:42.05 | [MoonWolf] | oh yeah, no router no internet |
| 14:42.20 | Tain | No woman, no cry. |
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| 14:55.52 | Ulti | bleh... still not working |
| 14:56.11 | [MoonWolf] | call isp, complain. |
| 14:56.18 | Ulti | ye, I guess |
| 14:56.53 | [MoonWolf] | i think the acceptable wait time for a dns propagation has passed. |
| 14:57.10 | Ulti | very much so |
| 15:02.13 | Tain | Oh just switch to a different public DNS server. |
| 15:02.30 | Ulti | well that's what's bothering me, I've tried that as well |
| 15:03.42 | Ulti | for example the dns server 80.88.97.142 replies wowace @ 207.210.86.111, which is where my /forum/ request seems to be sent, and from where the error message is returned |
| 15:06.17 | Tain | I'm hoping that my initial reaction to the forums passes once I get used to it. |
| 15:06.34 | [MoonWolf] | i like them |
| 15:06.39 | [MoonWolf] | try the oxygen theme |
| 15:08.32 | Ulti | heh, on the last of the 7 dns servers I've got in my list I finally get an updated respnse |
| 15:10.50 | id` | I dont like the 'new' icon when theres been a post on a forum |
| 15:10.54 | id` | im used to the icons on the left |
| 15:10.56 | id` | :| |
| 15:19.36 | Tain | Oh god I hate something about every single theme. I'm going to cry. |
| 15:20.50 | id` | :P |
| 15:21.04 | id` | If i'd make one iit would be very minimal |
| 15:21.06 | id` | colors? NAH |
| 15:21.09 | Ulti | like dark themes, easier on the eyes.... except for _those_ dark themes.. |
| 15:21.15 | id` | only color change is the status of a thread |
| 15:21.30 | id` | red for having been posted at |
| 15:21.32 | id` | etc |
| 15:21.37 | Tain | I better look into local overides. |
| 15:21.44 | id` | borders? tables? signarutes? avatars? |
| 15:21.49 | id` | *cut* |
| 15:21.50 | id` | :p |
| 15:22.10 | Ulti | good forum -> http://www.tbg.nu/ |
| 15:22.11 | Ulti | :P |
| 15:22.29 | Ulti | well ok it has it's issues as well |
| 15:22.36 | otravi | what event does Ace fire? |
| 15:22.57 | [MoonWolf] | being a language i cant read is a big issue |
| 15:23.07 | otravi | It's Swedish! |
| 15:23.10 | Ulti | :P |
| 15:23.24 | Tain | What do you mean, otravi? |
| 15:23.26 | id` | otravi: any you like? |
| 15:23.37 | Tain | Ace can fire a number of events, plus any custom ones you add. |
| 15:24.24 | otravi | Tain: I mean like ACE_PROFILE_LOADED :) |
| 15:24.32 | Tain | Yes, there are anumber of them. |
| 15:24.51 | otravi | I can't find any list - guess I will have to look at the source then |
| 15:24.53 | Tain | Search the Ace addon files for TriggerEvent and you'll see everything Ace itself does. |
| 15:26.04 | otravi | yeah, find + grep ftw |
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| 16:28.59 | Wobin_ | yow.. netsplit |
| 16:30.45 | Firedancer | i disconnected earlier because I was slouching in my chair and I hit my powerstrip's reset button with my foot o.O |
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| 18:30.41 | kergoth | bleh! |
| 18:31.51 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/windows/ |
| 18:31.51 | id` | touche! |
| 18:44.19 | [MoonWolf] | memstat has no download link |
| 18:45.35 | Tem | grr |
| 18:45.39 | Tem | I'm in billing purgatory |
| 18:45.49 | Tem | Would someone mind making a post for me? |
| 18:50.04 | [MoonWolf] | if you need it in the eu forums sure. |
| 18:50.14 | kergoth | someone should make an in game lua editor that has syntax highlighting, just because |
| 18:50.44 | Tain | Sure Tem, I can |
| 18:51.16 | [MoonWolf] | i dont use any ingame editors |
| 18:51.25 | [MoonWolf] | an alt tab and reload only take 5 secs tops. |
| 18:51.31 | Tem | I can't remember the exact name of the addon at the moment, but I know it's out there and shouldn't be too hard to find. |
| 18:51.37 | Tem | son of a... |
| 18:51.47 | [MoonWolf] | ???? |
| 18:51.59 | Tem | text going to the wrong place |
| 18:52.11 | kergoth | [MoonWolf]: that sort of inefficiency adds up though |
| 18:52.25 | kergoth | course naturally most of my coding is wow independent and done in the interpreter, but still |
| 18:52.27 | Tem | Thanks tain |
| 18:52.39 | [MoonWolf] | but i get a faster more efficient editor on top without all the pain of the ingame text fields. |
| 18:53.03 | [MoonWolf] | i think the time i save with all the features in my editor make up for it. |
| 18:53.15 | kergoth | quick, code a vim implementation in lua |
| 18:53.34 | kergoth | hehe. that would not be fun |
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| 18:54.01 | [MoonWolf] | it would be very very impressive if someone coded a vim of any kind in wow. |
| 18:54.05 | kergoth | hmm, i dont suppose wow lets you force a load of an LD addon thats already been loaded |
| 18:54.07 | [MoonWolf] | hell |
| 18:54.10 | [MoonWolf] | ill settle for a vi |
| 18:54.26 | kergoth | thatd let you "reload" a single addon at a time if it did |
| 18:54.38 | [MoonWolf] | dont think so |
| 18:54.44 | [MoonWolf] | because you cant do an unload. |
| 18:54.52 | kergoth | thats not what i'm asking |
| 18:54.56 | [MoonWolf] | wb Tekkub |
| 18:55.24 | kergoth | if i programmatically force a load of an addon, then i'm doing so knowing its already loaded, having checked that, and i'd better know how to unload this specific addon |
| 18:56.01 | kergoth | course all you can do is nil out the lua tables, you cant affect the xml i dont think... |
| 18:56.32 | kergoth | did we already test whether niling out the lua table from an xml object causes the userdata to be gc'd? |
| 18:56.42 | kergoth | i remember wondering about it, but dont remember if it got tested |
| 19:00.30 | Tain | Yeah someone did run through testing that, it doesn't gc everything away. |
| 19:00.37 | kergoth | aww |
| 19:00.45 | kergoth | bad blizzard, bad! no cookie for you! |
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| 20:12.09 | otravi | gwah, note to self: eating 400 grams of SWEDISH candy = bad |
| 21:19.35 | id` | :P |
| 21:19.49 | id` | and how do you call that in english |
| 21:19.53 | id` | 'drop' in dutch |
| 21:19.54 | id` | :p |
| 21:20.00 | id` | black candy |
| 21:26.37 | otravi | vingummi / skumgummi in norwegian at least |
| 21:27.12 | otravi | I think ragnaros hates my shaman, five knockbacks in a row |
| 21:27.28 | otravi | I didn't even have time to land in the lava ;( |
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| 21:37.19 | otravi | the forum hates my cookie btw :( |
| 21:38.46 | [MoonWolf] | otravi, are you sure its not your browser settings ? |
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| 21:45.19 | otravi | well, I use the same settings as on every other forum :) |
| 21:45.26 | otravi | and I've tried with Opera also :o |
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| 23:18.33 | cladhaire | Woot.. got 70% of my issues with StickyFrames resolved. |