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00:27.14*** join/##ace Stonehand (n=Stonehan@rh-la-32-99.rhythm.com)
00:27.22Stonehandhello there!
00:27.46Stonehand|workI have a question about table sorting
00:27.52Stonehand|workif anyone's watching ;)
00:28.07Tekkubyesch?
00:28.17Stonehand|workheh... Rhapsody Malt?
00:28.35Stonehand|workanyway... <.< >.>
00:29.26Stonehand|workI have a table like this: t.SPELL, where SPELL[x] = { table of spell data }
00:29.42Stonehand|workrather, t.SPELL[x]
00:30.08Stonehand|workI wanted to sort that SPELL table alphabetically by spell name
00:30.31Tekkubdon't you mean t[x].spell?
00:30.38Stonehand|workno
00:31.19Stonehand|workthat's not how I set it up, anyway.
00:31.52Stonehand|workI set it up by assigning t.SPELL["spellname"] = { data here }
00:32.30Tekkubah you want to sort by index, that's a pita
00:32.59Temshort answer, you can't
00:33.06Tekkubit's usually easier to make a second table with inc indexes and the sort value as values
00:33.11Tekkubthen sort it
00:33.12Temto sort a table, you need it to be indexed by integers
00:33.20Tekkuband use it to lookup from the first table
00:34.07Tekkubfor i,v in sorcetable table.insert(sorttable, i) end
00:34.21Tekkubtable.sort(sorttable)
00:34.57Tekkubfor i,v in sorttable do somefunc(sourcetable[v])
00:35.42Tekkubwill call somefunc in sorted order by the index of sourcetable
00:35.43Stonehand|workwhat's v?
00:36.15Tekkubfor index,value in table
00:36.25Stonehand|workoooh ok... didn't know you could do that
00:38.19Stonehand|workwell, I suppose I could just take that out and have t.SPELL[x].name and sort that way
00:38.50Stonehand|workso x would just be a numbered index
00:39.38Stonehand|workso something like table.sort(t.SPELL, function (a,b) return a.name < b.name end) ?
00:40.55Tekkubyes, if you're not indexing by name
00:41.04Stonehand|workactually, it may not really make a difference whether it's sorted or not... I just like to have things in order
00:41.37Tekkubsort only matters if you're intending to iterate over it
00:41.45Tekkubor if the index has meaning
00:42.11Tekkubif you need fast lookup by spell name instead, you should index by spell name
00:42.19Stonehand|workwell, the main routine is going to have to find the spell name to retrieve the spell data
00:42.30Stonehand|workok
00:42.36Stonehand|workso I'll just leave it alone ;)
00:42.58Stonehand|workthanks Tek/Tem
00:43.12Stonehand|workat least I have a better understanding of table.sort
00:43.16Stonehand|work;)
00:43.24Tekkubtable.sort is nice, if you need it
00:43.51Stonehand|workyeah... I don't think I will though... at least in this case
00:44.31TekkubI rarely use it
01:52.44Stonehand|workhmm
01:52.49Stonehand|workok, what's wrong with this?
01:52.56Stonehand|workfunction calculateEfficientSpell(spellName, pcMana, targetInfo)
01:52.57Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:52.57Stonehand|workend
01:53.05Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:53.51Tekkublooks fine to me...
01:53.54Stonehand|workI was just testing the return values, and I initially set castSpell to "" and castRank to 0
01:54.22Stonehand|workbut it doesn't store spellName in castSpell... when I print it, it's still ""
01:54.52Stonehand|workfunction SpellInterpreter(spellName,initRank, pcMana, targetInfo)
01:54.53Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:54.53Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:54.53Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:54.53Stonehand|work-- find max rank
01:54.53Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:54.55Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:54.57Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:54.59Stonehand|work-- use if statement to bypass rank calculation if only 1 rank of spell available
01:55.02Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:55.05Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:55.07Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:55.09Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:55.11Stonehand|work<PROTECTED>
01:55.27Stonehand|workprint("\n-- End SSoMM:SpellInterpreter -- casting " .. castSpell .."(Rank " .. castRank ..")\n")
01:55.57Stonehand|workend
01:55.59Stonehand|workheh
01:57.31Tekkubare you sure the assignment line is even getting called?
01:59.13kergoth_whats with all the spam? pastebin is our friend
01:59.13kergoth_heh
01:59.56Stonehand|worknever used pastebin
02:00.11kergoth_ace.pastebin.com
02:00.21kergoth_if you're going to paste more than 5 lines or so, do it there
02:00.42Stonehand|workum... not sure if it's being called, but it should be. I'm testing a spell that has 3 ranks in the RANK table
02:01.01Stonehand|workthe for loop should make maxRank > 1
02:01.42Stonehand|workok... don't want to interrupt the intense conversations going on tonight ;)
02:02.47Stonehand|workaaannnnyway.... I suppose I should test that loop... just never used a multi-assignment return, so I thought that might have been the problem
02:04.38Stonehand|workooh, I know what was wrong.. Shadow Word: Pain is neither a buff nor debuff. ;)
02:04.40Tekkubmulti returns are very straightforward
02:05.15Stonehand|workyeah, they seemed like it... my problems are self-inflicted, it seems ;)
02:05.29Tekkub<PROTECTED>
02:05.39Stonehand|workthanks!
02:05.41Stonehand|work;D
02:07.28cladhaireEvening all
02:07.39cladhairejust stopped in for a few before going to see homo cowboys
02:07.45cladhairesince nothing else is in the theatre
02:08.33kergoth_heh
02:08.37kergoth_have fun
02:08.45Tekkubheh it's not that great clad
02:09.01Tekkubyou're typical "oh my got I can't come out!" crappy love story
02:09.54cladhairelol
02:09.54cladhaireyeah
02:09.56cladhairei figured as much
02:10.06cladhairebut we want to go see a movie.. unless you can reccomend something better =)
02:10.24cladhaireAnyone have Illustrator CS2?
02:11.32cladhaireOr some other raster -> vector software?
02:12.59TekkubI recommend not paying for movies that aren't worth it :)
02:13.47cladhairelol *shrug*
02:13.55cladhaireomg raster2vector
02:14.04cladhairehook me up y0z.. i only have illustrator CS
02:14.31Tekkubnot I, I have no artistic talent
02:42.20kergoth_i've only done raster to vector conversion in linux. there are a couple good utilities for it
02:42.29kergoth_bored
03:40.05Stonehand|workis there a case statement in lua?
03:40.14Stonehand|workor switch?
03:40.31Tekkubno, use a table of funcs
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07:15.34TemTekkub: you around?
07:16.55TemI have a few questions and comments about the PT dungeon sets
07:29.48AstrylPT?
07:46.44TemPeriodicTable
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08:07.20[MoonWolf]Looks like i'm mostly better
08:07.23[MoonWolf]Tekkub, you around ?
08:07.52Cairenn[MoonWolf]: glad to hear you are feeling better
08:08.05[MoonWolf]Yeah, now the rest of my family is feelin sick though.
08:08.27Cairenn=/
08:09.56[MoonWolf]They should get better in a day or 3
08:10.04Cairenn*nod*
08:11.36[MoonWolf]Wow, tekkubs been adding a lot of loot tables too PT
08:12.03Temyeah I was just playing with that
08:12.05[MoonWolf]i would dare to say the mendeleev/PT now adds more information to item tooltips then anything out there.
08:12.18TemI've decided to make a PT mod
08:12.24Tem"LootTable"
08:12.34[MoonWolf]What does it do ?
08:15.29[MoonWolf]http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=959&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
08:15.52[MoonWolf]Should I go and delete that or not ?
08:15.57[MoonWolf]its funny in a way.
08:16.06[MoonWolf]but its useless spammy and trolly in another.
08:19.18Cairennif you're talking about the "omg titan rules" and the subsequent - I'd probably poof them if they were on WoWI - for whatever that's worth to you
08:19.18[MoonWolf]I think ill postpone any other changes and ship this out as version 5 of Mendeleev
08:19.28[MoonWolf]poof it is then.
08:25.52Tem[MoonWolf]: LootTable is a loot table browser for any item PT has drop info about
08:26.05[MoonWolf]cool
08:26.12[MoonWolf]GUI or CLI ?
08:26.18TemGUI
08:26.37Tem"Hmm, what does Razorgore the Untamed drop?"
08:26.42Temoh look! a list!
08:27.08[MoonWolf]can you do thing like, what drop from all the bosses in MC
08:27.15TekkubTem, we need just a general GUI for PT
08:27.27Tekkubit doesn't have to be JUST loot :)
08:27.31[MoonWolf]yeah tem, that would be better.
08:27.36Temhmm I agree
08:27.54TekkubI keep the indexes as close to the real name as possible
08:27.59[MoonWolf]Mendeleev caused a lot of PT to grow, and most of it usefull, but it will only work in the context of the current item.
08:28.07TekkubHell I could change them to be the real name I guess
08:28.11Tekkubit is just a string
08:28.39Tekkubthing I should? but then localization becomes an issue...
08:28.51[MoonWolf]Keep them like it is.
08:29.10Tekkubnonetheless, I wrote the startings of a new mod and it worked great in temple tonight :)
08:29.13Temkeep it like it is
08:29.28TekkubI call it: Immunization
08:29.29Temoh Tekkub I have a few thoughts about some of the dungeon loot
08:29.30Tekkubit remembers if a mob is immune to a spell
08:29.38Temand a few questions
08:29.45Tekkubso that you don't keep wasting mana on immune things
08:29.52Tekkubokey, hit me :)
08:30.04Temfirstly, on trash mob drops, put "trash" or something
08:30.08[MoonWolf]Hey, you added the booze to mendeleev.
08:30.18TekkubYes moon!
08:30.25Tekkubokey... hrm...
08:30.47Temalso a question, I'm looking at a lot of ZG drops and they don't show their droper
08:30.52Temwhy?
08:30.55Tekkubwell the general rule is if it shows up in the zone set but not the bosses set, it's a random zonewide drop
08:31.09Tekkubcause I havn't got bosses in on ZG yet
08:31.24TekkubI didn't get temple in at all too, dunno how I missed that one
08:32.16TekkubI think I might write up PT-enabled versions of Sell-o-matic and Trash-o-matic
08:32.37Tekkuband make trash-o-matic work two ways... instant drop and "need space" drop
08:32.38Temso add some code to Mendy to say "trash mob" or something if no boss is present
08:32.53Tekkubthen ItemizedDeductions could use them as OptDep's
08:33.19TekkubI'll write up a lil script to generate trash mob tables tem
08:33.48Tekkuboh yea, moon, we need some means to sort the order sets are displayed in the ttip, so that zone is always before boss
08:34.20[MoonWolf]Yeah, i wanted to do something like that but at the moment it all depends on what element shows up first in the for loop.
08:34.40Tekkubyua I know
08:34.46[MoonWolf]Maybe ill cheat and put a first key in the table with a rank number.
08:34.54[MoonWolf]then sort the table on that.
08:34.54Tekkubjust need a lil sorted table to control the loop with
08:35.35[MoonWolf]I figured out a way to efficiently enable and disable categories... but that is all for 0.6
08:35.46[MoonWolf]currently 0.5 is having its readme written.
08:36.16Tekkub:)
08:36.38TekkubYou get C4 in the table too, or should I add it?
08:36.52[MoonWolf]In already
08:36.58Tekkubsweet
08:37.10[MoonWolf]Last change i made on my side before i got sick and all.
08:37.20Tekkubah
08:37.21[MoonWolf]seaforium is still one of the best names ever.
08:37.28Tekkub<PROTECTED>
08:37.39Tekkubtho it should blow open chests too
08:37.51[MoonWolf]I only realized it like 3 or 4 months of playing the game too.
08:37.57Tekkubheh
08:38.44WobIt should blow chests.. but leave broken bits inside =)
08:38.56WobDepending on the skill of the engineer
08:39.07[MoonWolf]heh
08:39.15Tekkubheh
08:39.23Tekkubrandomly damages items
08:39.30[MoonWolf]broken major health potion x 5
08:39.31Tekkubyou get a grey instead
08:39.34[MoonWolf]DAMNIT!
08:39.50WobI can so see an engineer quest "No, Damnit! The RED WIRE!"
08:39.50Tekkub[Charred bits of mail gloves]
08:39.57[MoonWolf]heh
08:40.25[MoonWolf][Broken I.W.I.N  button]
08:40.31Wobhehe
08:40.36Wob(BLAST!_
08:40.45Tekkubpatry members too close take shrapnel damage
08:41.41Tekkubtem you still around?
08:41.41WobHehe, Engineer with a shirt saying "I'm a Seaforium Technician. If you see me running, try to keep up"
08:41.49Temyeah sorta
08:42.05Tekkubmind getting me a list of the named mobs in ZG so I can add them to PT?
08:42.15TemThekal
08:42.21TemMar'li
08:42.22TemHakkar
08:42.25TemJin'do
08:42.27WobFred
08:42.28WobBarney
08:42.32WobWilma
08:42.36WobBEtty
08:42.36TemArlokk
08:42.43TemGhaz'ranka
08:42.50TemJeklilk
08:42.57TemVenoxis
08:43.20Tekkubthat all em?
08:43.23Temthere are a few more from the edge of madness area, but I don't know their names
08:43.40TemI don't think they have any notworthy drops anyway
08:44.01Tekkubdon't care if it's "noteworthy" just if it's unique to them
08:44.18[MoonWolf]Trade recipies you know(YOU MUST OPEN THE PANEL FOR THE TRADE SKILL EVERY SESSION, DONT LIKE IT, TALK TO TEKKUB)
08:44.20Tekkubif they have no uniques I'll remove em, like the Kahn's in Marau
08:44.35Tekkubhehe
08:44.45[MoonWolf]Think that is clear enough ?
08:44.48Tekkuboh moon, you need to color those by skill :)
08:44.57[MoonWolf]noted.
08:45.05Tekkuband maybe an option to filter out grey ones
08:45.06Tekkub:)
08:45.29[MoonWolf]Right after I add the other shit tone of things.
08:45.31WobCan you maybe automatically flash open and close the tradewindow on load?
08:45.33[MoonWolf]ton*
08:45.40Wober tradeskills
08:45.41[MoonWolf]Wob, go find out.
08:45.54Wobokay =) If that'll solve the problem
08:46.04TekkubWob: to the best of my knowledge, trades are considered a spell
08:46.17Tekkubthe only way I know how to access them is the spellbook
08:46.46[MoonWolf]and that requires a hardware event
08:46.51Tekkubexactly
08:47.19WobWhat do you need from the tradeskills?
08:47.48[MoonWolf]to scan the frame for all the recepies you know.
08:47.53Wobaha
08:48.04[MoonWolf]PT doesnt store the infomation rather i gathers it every time
08:48.06TekkubPT doesn't save the data across sessions
08:48.07Wobjust the names/ids?
08:48.17Tekkubbasically
08:48.35[MoonWolf]makes it so that blizzard can add/remove all they want, it will work.
08:48.36Tekkubit makes a bunch of PT sets for the data in there
08:48.49Wobnodnod
08:48.58Tekkuband makes it so your tooltip isn't crammed with recepies all the time
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08:49.13[MoonWolf]and believe me the list can get LARGE
08:49.22Tekkubyup, like cloth ><
08:49.29Tekkubor bars
08:49.41[MoonWolf]yeah try a copper bar as a miner/engineer.
08:50.15Wob"What can I do with a [Piece of String]?"
08:50.26Tekkubheh, exactly
08:50.39joelg'morning
08:51.28[MoonWolf]morning
08:51.46TekkubI should package up Immunization and post it
08:52.59WobCall the whole lot MediKit?
08:58.49Tekkubwhat type of food do you think omlettes are in-game... fruit, fungus, cheeze or bread
08:59.48Temnone of the above
09:02.29Tekkubit's one of them
09:02.36Tekkubbear eats it, cat doesn't
09:03.01TekkubI'm betting cheeze, I'll get a crab and test
09:09.14[MoonWolf]BACK
09:09.19[MoonWolf]lots o screenshot made
09:09.55[MoonWolf]Tekkub, i found boars to be superior to bears btw.
09:10.12Tekkubfuck you
09:10.17TekkubI like bears :)
09:10.22[MoonWolf]same food preferences, same damage reduction, similar health, similar damage, and CHARGE!
09:10.26Tekkubwhole reasonn I became a hunter
09:10.36Tekkubto get a pet bear and name it after a bear dildo
09:10.40[MoonWolf]okay okay, but technically.
09:17.07Wobquick, spam the buffer
09:17.34Wob(PS, Tekk, you've got me scarily visualising a furry dildo...)
09:20.09TekkubWob: google "bruin heat" if ya wanna see it
09:24.30Tekkubokey... why and how the hell does banknon trigger a bankframe_show event when you open it away from the bank?
09:29.21[MoonWolf]because it hooks the event, and cheats ?
09:29.36[MoonWolf]done assembling my new screenie file btw
09:30.44[MoonWolf]Tekkub, see your work in action http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7482/mendeleevscreenshots5tm.jpg
09:31.30[MoonWolf]damn i forgot locks and booze
09:31.32[MoonWolf]brb
09:31.36Tekkubneeds some booze and a lockbox :)
09:31.40Tekkublol
09:31.45Tekkuband C$!
09:31.48TekkubC4!
09:37.04[MoonWolf]too late
09:37.10[MoonWolf]im not going to get in and find some of that
09:37.14[MoonWolf]the ah did not have it
09:37.22[MoonWolf]so i got a friend to link me a golden skeleton key
09:37.43Tekkubuhm, KCI? :P
09:37.52[MoonWolf]not loaded at the moment
09:38.02[MoonWolf]only had meneleev/pt/ace/viewport
09:38.11TekkubI was linking shit and telling people where it drops today in guild chat, it rocked
09:38.16[MoonWolf]hehe
09:38.19[MoonWolf]yeah its cool
09:38.52[MoonWolf]dude what are you, thottbot on wheels ?
09:39.35Tekkubsad think was it was for the guild moron... I hate him....
09:39.43Tekkubhe's like Lv.34....
09:39.59Tekkublast night... "I'm gonna go solo SFK to get silk!"
09:40.09Tekkub"who wants to help me?
09:40.21Tekkubus: "uhm, then you're not soloing it
09:40.34[MoonWolf]SFK solo at 34
09:40.40Tekkub5 min later "damn these r tough i cant solo it someone help me
09:40.43[MoonWolf]he needs to get his brain rewired.
09:40.53CodayusSo sad...
09:41.09Tekkubtoday... me: "Who wants to help us get Sunken Temple out of the way?"
09:41.10[MoonWolf]I did two man arugal with a mage and a warlock at lvl 36 and 39
09:41.20Tekkubhim: "what lvl"
09:41.26Tekkubwe ignore...
09:41.32Tekkubhe keeps asking....
09:41.33[MoonWolf]note only arugal was two manned. the rest of the party was standing by.
09:41.50Tekkubfinally, me: "what level are Roh and I Bark?"
09:42.06Tekkubhim: "54 what level is temple"
09:42.35Tekkubhe's a total moron I swear
09:43.00Tekkubif I had the power I'd kick his ass from the guild instantly
09:43.30[MoonWolf]hehe
09:43.44[MoonWolf]so make the powers that be do it.
09:43.46[MoonWolf]cant be that hard.
09:44.05Tekkubwell the leader's never around
09:44.30Tekkubthe one officer that's on all the time I think is the one that invited him in, he seems rather amused by the guy's stupidity
09:44.52Tekkub*shrug* I'll abuse the fucksmudge till he leaves or the officers bitch at me
09:45.20CodayusFun fun fun.
09:47.26[MoonWolf]http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mendeleevscreenshots6zd.jpg
09:51.49[MoonWolf]uploading new version to WoWI
09:55.41[MoonWolf]Tekkub i got a small suggestion from curse
09:56.36[MoonWolf]Add reputation item add the reputation rank as item value
09:57.03[MoonWolf]the zul'gurub items for instance
09:59.09[MoonWolf]tekkub ?
10:04.10[MoonWolf]Mendeleev has been updated and released.
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12:24.29[MoonWolf]Tekkub, thanks for that last comment on WoWi
12:35.44id`url? :p
12:35.58id`hey moon ho gaatie? nog beetje ziek? :(
12:36.09[MoonWolf]klein beetje
12:36.19[MoonWolf]mijn moeder en broertjes liggen nu ziek op bed.
12:36.26Tekkubyea moon
12:36.33Tekkuband yea I'll add rep values
12:36.37[MoonWolf]cool
12:36.42id`oh minder man
12:36.51[MoonWolf]beetje. Gaat wel weer over.
12:36.52Tekkubbut you're gonna need to add a way to convert numeric values to text :)
12:37.22[MoonWolf]yeah uuh, ill think of something efficient
12:37.31[MoonWolf]I figured out a good way to cache so i can do that too.
12:37.39Tekkub:)
12:37.50Tekkubthen you can stort work on PTGUI
12:38.01[MoonWolf]That was what tem wanted to do.
12:38.08id`PTGUI ?
12:38.17WobPeriodicTableGUI
12:38.20Tekkubwe could rearrang the letter
12:38.24TekkubPIGUT
12:38.26id`>_> no shit sherlock
12:38.28WobI like that
12:38.36WobThat's how I read it first anway =)
12:38.42id`what would a GUI for PT do ?
12:38.45[MoonWolf]PTWallposter ?
12:39.05Tekkubid: think "view all items that drop off Hakkar"
12:39.16id`ZOMG
12:39.19id`sex
12:39.21Tekkublike KCI, linkview
12:39.22Wobsort of like lootlinkish?
12:39.22id`:D
12:39.25[MoonWolf]Mendeleev is fun and cool, but it only works for the context of the mouseovered item.
12:39.26Tekkubbut for sets
12:39.32id`nice
12:39.50[MoonWolf]I found out mendeleev and PT are in QTUI btw.
12:39.55TekkubI think we should just steal KCI linkview
12:40.07Tekkub(sweets)
12:40.17Wobhe uses AceGUI, yeah?
12:40.27[MoonWolf]yep
12:41.22Tekkubmoon, you think I should even keep PT on the UI sites, or should I just consider it to always be a joint-release with mendy?
12:42.01[MoonWolf]Well if the way i look at it, InvSort(whatever it going to be called) so of your addons, and PTUI are going to use it.
12:42.06Tekkubcause honestly, I like me updating the SVN and you posting the "real" releases when you get em in Mendy
12:42.20Tekkubfor the most part the sets are useless unless mendy shows them anyway
12:42.21[MoonWolf]But at the moment both addon are moving so god damn fast.
12:42.37Tekkubat least, they are till I get ItemDed and TOM/SOM redone
12:43.11Tekkubokey, it's joint until the other mods happen :)
12:43.13[MoonWolf]In a period of a month mendleev went from nothing to ReagentInfo can go screw itself.
12:43.20Tekkubhehe
12:43.28Tekkubadding the loot's what did it
12:43.47[MoonWolf]Indeed, im waiting what will happen when people figure this out... its a slow sunday
12:43.54[MoonWolf]i had 25 downloads from WoWi today.
12:44.23TekkubI turned around on mr "I won't use itemid's as index cause it'll cause a disconnect" to "hey look I cramed 4x the data into half the space AND optomized for minimal load time"
12:45.06[MoonWolf]Well, PT is a kickass mod.
12:45.16TekkubI think I'm gonna add all the instances after I get ZG bosses and temple in
12:45.30Tekkubactually, no...
12:45.48[MoonWolf]you can have fun when people starting going into our new instances in ahn'qiraj
12:45.50TekkubI'm gonna rip out "item created by: <craft> data from RD first :)
12:45.53[MoonWolf]may have mispelled that.
12:46.07Tekkubcause I find myself looking at links thinking "is that crafted?"
12:46.18[MoonWolf]but only for the blue and purple stuff, right ?
12:46.28Tekkubyea I think so
12:46.40Tekkubgreens are kinda pointless in most every case...
12:47.02[MoonWolf]I wonder what the RD/RI guy thinks of Mendy/PT
12:47.02Wobhm
12:47.22TekkubI mean... greens are like "trash gear"... people wear em cause they're cheap, not cause they got good stats
12:47.22WobI'd like to be able to DressingRoom link tailoring/armour patterns
12:47.37Tekkubpatterns?
12:47.52Tekkubyou mean like the enchat links...
12:47.58Tekkubtake it up with slowken :)
12:48.04Wobdon't think so...
12:48.18[MoonWolf]why not ?
12:48.21WobYou know when you see the tooltip for a pattern, it shows you the stats for the item created?
12:48.25Tekkubwob... you use KCI?
12:48.28[MoonWolf]im sure that can be done fine on the server side.
12:48.50Tekkubyou can get links out of KCI
12:48.59TekkubI was having fun with it tonight
12:49.02WobTekk: no
12:49.09Wobhm
12:49.17Tekkubdorf in Cenarion set is nice :)
12:49.35WobLike a shrubbery =P
12:50.22Tekkubseriously, if you want links that's KCI's dept
12:50.41TekkubPT is for sets of items
12:50.46Tekkub:)
12:51.30WobOh yeah, I wasn't suggesting it for PT
12:51.44Wobit's more of an interface thing than a item listing thing
12:51.47Tekkubhrm.... I just had a thought for PTGUI...
12:51.53Wobhttp://gallery.ksilebo.com/d/4523-1/1137302298587.gif
12:51.54Tekkubmake it tree'd...
12:52.05Tekkub-Instance Loot
12:52.09WobThat gif just makes me laugh for some reason =P
12:52.11Tekkub--maraudon
12:52.14Tekkub---item1
12:52.17Tekkub---item2
12:52.46Tekkubmakes perfect sense, and gives people a feel for the structure of my data :)
12:53.10WobHow do you order item1/2/etc? Level?
12:53.21Tekkuband multisets would tree out into their subparts
12:53.21[MoonWolf]or they could simply open the files and see the structure first hand.
12:53.43WobIs there any way of finding the set bonuses too?
12:53.43Tekkubusers don't like that, it's all "confusing" and shit
12:53.58Tekkubno wob, you have to look those up online
12:54.04Wob=( figured
12:54.10Tekkubthe game only gives that info if you've got em equipped
12:54.11[MoonWolf]well, i cant actually see what item is what but it does not confuse me in the least.
12:54.53[MoonWolf]i would like the game to show set bonusses on inspected people too, and the equiped parts
12:54.54Tekkub*shrug*
12:55.01[MoonWolf]but that is sloukens department.
12:55.03Tekkubactually, easiest way....
12:55.19Tekkubdropdown menu, submenus structured like the data
12:55.31Tekkubcheso what you want, it show em in the main window
12:55.38Tekkubmaybe even with icons :)
12:55.45Tekkub*choose
12:56.05TekkubI like that idea the best really
12:56.34[MoonWolf]But the items cant actually act as links
12:56.43[MoonWolf]that would be disconnetion ahoy
12:56.48Tekkubyes they can
12:57.04Tekkubwe can't get even a name for an ID if it's not in the cache
12:57.11Tekkubjust like KCI can't
12:57.32TekkubThat'd just be a limitation people would have to suffer
12:57.38[MoonWolf]KCI has disconnected me in the past
12:57.58Tekkubthere used to be a bug in GetItemInfo that still cause discos
12:58.04Tekkubit was fixed in 1.9
12:58.18Tekkubhave you gotten booted since 1.9 went live?
12:58.27[MoonWolf]eeuh
12:58.30[MoonWolf]not that i remember
12:58.33Tekkub:)
12:58.44[MoonWolf]okay, statement retracted.
12:59.10Tekkubyou know, I really DON"T want to fuck with the XML to do this...
12:59.21Tekkubbut at the same time it'd be SOOOO useful to me
12:59.25Tekkub*cry*
12:59.26[MoonWolf]Tem wanted to do it.....
12:59.40TekkubTem you bitch, make it your top priority
13:11.49[MoonWolf]I gained 5 favourites already in curse.
13:11.54[MoonWolf]on 58 favourites
13:12.08Tekkub:)
13:12.36[MoonWolf]ofcourse that is nothing compared too most popular mods
13:12.51[MoonWolf]but hey, i know its better that is enough for me.
13:16.02TekkubI hope WoWI gets the *cough* new stuff up live soon so I can make it my focalpoint of mod development
13:16.30Tekkuband I can just ignore anyone who leaves feedback on the other sites :)
13:16.46pagefaultyay
13:16.48[MoonWolf]hehe
13:16.50pagefaultI get my epic mount today
13:16.52pagefaultor in a few hours
13:16.54[MoonWolf]YAY
13:17.09TekkubI want my epic to be a kittymount
13:17.19TekkubI swear, I saw a gnome on a cat the other day
13:17.26Tekkubcutest fucking thing ever!
13:17.34[MoonWolf]my guild has one tool
13:17.35pagefaultI will be so glad I don't have to do any more quests for my dreadsteed
13:17.36Tekkubit looked like he was riding a housecat
13:17.38[MoonWolf]gtg for now.
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14:18.04Wobbah
14:18.40WobI was trying to get MrPlow to do faster stacking by doing different stacks at the same time, but it's too hard to keep track of
14:19.42[MoonWolf]meh its fine as it is
14:19.49Wobyeah =)
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17:31.04WobPS Tekk?
17:31.16WobWith MountMe and Warlocks, you can 'recast' the mount spell to cancel it
17:31.49Wobsave you fiddling around with the auras
17:31.56Wober buffs
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22:24.05ag``what is the name of the battleground scoreboard frame?
22:24.18ag``or does anyone know of a simple mod that allows me to move it?
22:29.17id`http://pastebin.com/529500
22:29.21id`i feel so bad :(
22:29.53id`im always mister clean, lean and mean but i'm using 30MB of ram as we speak
22:30.34Temag``: WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame
22:30.36Tainag``: I think the BG frame is "WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame" which makes no sense.  
22:30.43TemI win
22:31.01TainBut I added commentary!
22:31.50TemI still win
22:31.59TemI even had to pause because I wasn't sure about the name
22:32.00TainI am the non-winnar. :(
22:32.04Temand I was /still/ before you
22:32.43ag``Thanks for the info
22:32.57ag``How would I go around moving it? Hooking to it's fuctions with the new API's?
22:33.33Temt = WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame
22:33.39Temt:SetMovable(1)
22:33.42Temt:StartMoving()
22:33.51Temt:StopMovingOrSizing()
22:33.58Temt:SetUserPlaced(1)
22:34.00Temdone
22:34.39ag``thanks
22:35.19ag``what does setuserplaced do btw? Saves the position of the frame?
22:35.38Tem(you should probably put your mouse over it before the StartMoving call because it looks pretty strange moving the frame relative to the mouse when the mouse is no where near the frame)
22:36.02ag``yeah
22:36.13TemSetUserPlaced saves the frame's position and scale in one of the congif files
22:36.21Temlayout-cache.txt I believe
22:36.34ag``it's a blizzard API?
22:36.37Temyeah
22:36.52ag``and it saves to scale too and loads it? Seperate for each frame? Fancy I must say
22:36.57TainYeah, and some well-behaved addons will check to see if a frame is set userplaced before trying to move it automatically on you.  And if so leaves it alone.
22:37.41ag``Thanks
22:38.11ag``guess that knowledge will come in handy for other purposes as welll
22:41.05id`Tem, why did you duplicate it into t in your example above?
22:41.27Temduplicate what?
22:42.02id`does it duplicate its contents (the object) or just adds a reference to the object that's already there.. ?
22:42.13id`there - in the ram
22:42.28Temyou mean t = WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame?
22:42.32id`yes
22:43.14Temall that does it make a reference to the object for easy reference
22:44.04id`k
22:44.29id`i love that in SQL :<
22:44.31Temfor that example is was so that I didn't have to type "WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame" 8 times
22:44.42id`yeh
22:45.08Temand it will speed up the code a little too
22:45.16Tembecause a local reference is faster than a global
23:00.11ag``but doesn't it take memory (hits garbage collection faster)?
23:11.03Temcertain things don't need to be gc'ed
23:11.14Temtable references are one of them
23:11.31Temsince it's just a table reference, not the table itself, it has no gc impact
23:40.18Cairennawww, gee, I hurt his little feelings
23:40.55Tekkuboro?
23:41.29TekkubWob: Buffs should be fixed, I thing... and I don't think that spell works like you think it does
23:42.35TekkubUseAction stuff will cast/cancel, but CastSpell stuf just recasts it even if you have it...
23:44.37Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4548
23:44.46TekkubI saw that name as "BuffWhore"
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