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00:18.03Tem|Foodid`: it's s///
00:18.26Tem|Foodexample: woudl be like this
00:18.32Tem|Foods/woudl/would/
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00:40.42id`it shouldnt matter
00:40.43id`:o
00:41.37Tem|Foodyes it does
00:41.48Temid`: it's regex syntax
00:43.19id`sed would work without
00:44.20id`and vim does
00:44.21id`:p
01:42.32GenNMXFor Ace, what is AddonName.db._table vs AddonName.db[1] ? _table has elements of profiles and default, but they're blank.
01:44.47GenNMXI'm trying to figure out why AddonName[1].app.defaults.Flags exists, but self:GetOpt("Flags") returns nil
01:47.18Temthe _table entry is the actual table
01:47.30Temthe one that gets saved in the SV
01:47.58GenNMXYeah, I figured as much. Why is it blank, even though I gave it defaults?
01:48.52Tekkub*rawr*
01:49.11TemGenNMX: I believe that is related to limitations in the system
01:49.30GenNMXI didn't do anything differently then VitalWatch, and VitalWatch had its defaults set...or at least I thought it did
01:50.19GenNMXTem: So I manually need to load the defaults into SavedVariables if they don't exist?
01:51.26Temwell
01:51.42TemI think the defaults are only loaded when the table is created for the first time
01:51.52Temso if you add defaults later, they will not be added
01:52.21GenNMXAhhh, lemme try deleting the savedvariables then
01:53.41Tekkubgoddamn hard to understand Enya... I swear the backup singers are saying "feel me up"
01:53.53Temmaybe they are
01:54.07TainMaybe it's, "Feed me Seymore"
01:54.23Tekkubtoo many sylables
01:55.52TainI don't believe in syllables.
01:57.04GenNMXDammit, deleting the SavedVariables didn't get Ace to load the defaults into the SavedVariables database
02:14.31GenNMXAny ideas?
02:43.27GenNMXBah fine, I'll make my own Defaults_Initialize function until someone can explain this to me.
02:59.16cladhaireGenNMX:
02:59.21cladhaireself.db:Reset()
02:59.23cladhaireor reset()
02:59.24cladhairei believe
03:00.23GenNMXcladhaire: But shouldn't Ace propogate the SV database with its defaults without needing to call reset() ?
03:00.37GenNMXIf the SV database doesn't exist, of course.
03:00.47cladhairewell
03:00.50cladhaireask your questino again
03:01.31GenNMXcladhaire: http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=15930
03:03.15cladhaireoooh.. i'm not sure how defaults with ace work =(
03:03.21cladhairebut its done using metatables
03:03.26cladhairewhich means they dont get saved out to the SV
03:03.28cladhaire(i believe)
03:03.39GenNMXThis worked fine with VitalWatch, I can't figure out what the problem is with Combatotron
03:03.45cladhairehmm
03:04.47GenNMXIs there an argument needed for AddonName.db:reset() ?
03:05.38GenNMXSince it's not loading the defaults, grrr
03:06.02cladhairedont listen to me.. i know nothin about the defaults =(
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05:35.57Tekkubstupid blizzard forum
05:36.03TekkubI can't log in *growl*
06:16.25Temwhy are people so fucking dumb?
06:16.31Temhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4521
06:16.36Temlook at the comment at the bottom
06:17.46GenNMXI think Gaal doesn't realize that you need your Edit Box open to use this.
06:21.38TainI gave up on the whys a long time ago.
06:23.20FryGuyhah
06:23.24FryGuywhat a retard tem :p
06:23.37Sokurailol
06:23.41TekkubBAKA! BAKA! BAKA!
06:23.44FryGuymust not have ever used bash before
06:23.49SokuraiNOT MY TAB KEY :[ NOOOO~
06:24.10FryGuywhat.. would you ever use tab for?
06:24.15SokuraiIt's worn down enough from him alt tabbing to pr0n back and forwardth while playing WoW~
06:24.17FryGuydunno :/
06:24.20TemIt's so tempting to respond "Well wtf key would you want TAB COMPLETE on?"
06:24.31Tekkubwait... alt tab for porn?
06:24.37Tembut I don't think he would get it
06:24.42TekkubI have a whole monitor dedicated to it
06:24.43Cairennheh
06:24.46Sokurailol Tek
06:24.47Temso it's not worth looking like an ass
06:25.06Tekkubbut... you are an ass...
06:25.09Sokuraiomgz I didn't use tab complete :[
06:25.09Cairenntab to target nearest target :p
06:25.09TemI know
06:25.10Tekkuband we like your ass...
06:25.17TemTekkub: I'm not hairy
06:25.18Tekkubshow us your ass already
06:25.25TemTekkub: leave me be
06:25.34Tekkub*pout* okey
06:25.41Temlol
06:26.00Temand for my next addon...
06:26.01Tekkubow... fuck that's a first....
06:26.04TemRaidCalandar
06:26.13Tekkubusually it's really cold food that makes my teeth hurt
06:26.22Tekkubbut these hot pockets must be damn hot
06:26.46Tembecause I'm sick of wondering when the instance will reset
06:27.07Tem(if you aren't saved to it)
06:27.14Tekkubhrm... you should name it "AreWeThereYet?"
06:27.22Cairennheh
06:27.36Cairenn"IsItTimeYet?!"
06:27.49TekkubHowMuchLonger?
06:28.04GenNMXNextDupeTime
06:28.05CairennHurryUpAndWait!
06:28.08TekkubResetYet?
06:28.54weabname it CrapQuestionMarksArentAllowedInDirectoryNamesInWindows!
06:29.02Cairennlol
06:29.13TekkubIfIt'sYellowLetItMellow
06:29.28CairennYou guys don't like my "HurryUpAndWait" ?
06:29.40Tain"BlueMeansYou'rePregnant"
06:29.44Temlol
06:29.46Cairennewwww
06:29.48weabactually i do cair
06:29.50Tekkub*shrug* I'm just throwing out what I think up
06:30.01weabreminds me of.. three stooges i think it was
06:30.04Cairennbetter than throwing up what you think out
06:30.04weabwake up and go to sleep!
06:30.14TekkubIsThereAnythingFasterThanAMicrowave?
06:30.18TainRemind me to kill you later
06:30.40weabi'm trying to think but nothing happens!
06:30.49Tainhehe
06:31.04TekkubAreYouCallingMeSlow?
06:31.30TemLeapRaid
06:31.40TainThey often say that the difference between males and females comes down to laughing at The Three Stooges.
06:31.54Cairennsome of the Three Stooges is funny
06:32.03Cairennactually, a fair bit of it
06:32.06weabi like those stupid one liners
06:32.15Tainyah weab
06:32.17Temwhat does it mean if I think the Three Stooges is retarded and a waste of my time?
06:32.18Tekkub*shrug* I was never a stooger
06:32.18weabmarx brothers have a lot of great lines like that too
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06:32.44Tem(and the right answer isn't that I'm a bitter person)
06:32.55TainGroucho was a comedic genius.
06:32.57TekkubI like more modern ripoffs of old comedy... like Prof. Firnk!
06:33.03Tekkubnice SADY!
06:33.07Tekkub*LADY!
06:33.09weabyes
06:33.38Tainhmmm... maybe i should have married that girl who loved the Three Stooges.
06:33.41Tainnaaaaah
06:34.20TekkubI am triaaaangulating the vectors and compressing the results to express them as a function of my hand....
06:34.39Tekkubthey're over there! *points*
06:34.42TainNow I should have married that girl who did that.. thing.. you know..
06:35.01weabOutside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
06:35.19Tekkubyou know what I say about dogs
06:35.28weabFrom the moment I picked up your book until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter.
06:35.28weabSome day I intend reading it.
06:35.29TainTasty with BBQ sauce?
06:35.30TekkubTHey're all pink on the inside
06:36.11weabTime flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
06:36.53weabok i'm done with the groucho quotes
06:37.03Tekkub:P
06:37.16TainYour honor, get off her.
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06:38.40Eraphinetem- tab rocks
06:38.49TemEraphine: :)
06:38.50Temthanks
06:39.02TainIf only it weren't tab...
06:39.09TemIt's been sitting just inches from complete since dec 10
06:39.10Eraphinehehe, we're all used to tab
06:39.20Temso today I said "ok It's time to finish it"
06:39.28Temyeah did you see the retard comment
06:39.35Eraphinelol yeah on your svn
06:39.44Temoh, no, not that one
06:39.55Eraphineoh fryuy ?
06:39.57Temthat one is kind of funny too...
06:40.03FryGuyhm?
06:40.06Cairennwhat's that one?
06:40.22TemOn sec cair I'll pull it up
06:40.45TemCairenn: https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/log/trunk/Tab
06:41.07TemEraphine: Look at the comments at the bottom of this page http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=452
06:41.10TainI was actually a little disappointed when I posted up the last VisorGUI that I didn't get any response from Stonehand.
06:41.33TainAs the description started out with, "Added by popular demand (well actually just by Stonehand)"
06:41.36FryGuyEraphine: I was just being facecious :p
06:41.54FryGuytain: is there a "show" button now?
06:42.13TainShow hidden frames?
06:42.21TekkubStone bothers me....
06:42.23FryGuydunno
06:42.30FryGuylike if you type in the name
06:42.32FryGuycan you show it
06:42.34TainOh yeah.
06:42.42FryGuyi haven't used it in a while
06:42.47FryGuyI only log in for transmutes nowadays
06:42.55Tekkubhe seems to have a fine grasp of programming, and seeks help, but is wholey unwilling to listen to what others say
06:42.56TainIf you type in the name of a frame that's hidden you can show it, or create a virtual frame representative of it.
06:43.21TemEraphine: you see the comment I was talking about?
06:44.08TemWho is "thrae"?
06:44.46Tem"Lets just pretend I didn't submit that last commit, k?"
06:44.53Cairennah
06:45.04FryGuyhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4521
06:45.05Temand it gets better if you click on the revision number to see the diff
06:45.08FryGuythat one :p
06:45.11Temto see what I changed
06:45.44FryGuyhah
06:45.51FryGuydon't you love syntax errors tem? :p
06:46.01Temhere's the really funny part
06:46.08TemThat's the version I uploaded as 0.1
06:46.32Temso it went live to release got like 15 downloads and Kael sends me an IM "hey I get syntax errors with Tab"
06:46.45TemMe: d'oh!
06:46.53FryGuywow trac is pretty nice
06:46.59TekkubTem you've inspired me...
06:47.15TemThen I try to change it on WoWI and accidently delete the entire mod
06:47.20TekkubI'm going to put a "No screenshot for you!" image on PeriodicTable
06:47.23TemTekkub: how? for what?
06:47.36TemTekkub: I stole that image (with permission) from Iriel
06:48.01TekkubWell then it's not stealing, and I'm making me own variation :)
06:48.23TemFryGuy: yeah trac is real nice
06:49.01FryGuyhrm
06:49.09FryGuywe need to get that for fortress-forever :/
06:49.48TemWho is "Thrae"?
06:49.52TemIs that any of you?
06:50.42FryGuynot me :p
06:50.56FryGuyi'm FryGuy (and my main character is Shadolin)
06:51.06Temoh I see now
06:51.13EraphineI don't know what i'm looking for
06:51.15TemThrae is another ace person
06:51.20Temhe just doesn't come here
06:51.21Eraphinesorry just got out a disasterously bad wsg
06:52.23TemAnyway, he made a comment on WoWI so I don't have to.  *cheer*
07:08.00TemAh, thanks GenNMX|Thrae
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08:06.13Tekkub_fucking assholes!
08:06.23Tekkub_I want an account credit!
08:06.39pagefault?
08:06.44Tekkub_I missed 4 whole minutes of cable serrvice!
08:07.02Tekkub_<PROTECTED>
08:09.04Tekkub_muahahahaha
08:09.38Tekkub_tweaked PT's benchmark some more, it now shows compressed and uncempressed mem vales for each set, and a total
08:09.46WobTekk. I love you. Mr Plow =P
08:10.01Tekkub_as it stands, all data, 21 KiB at load, 395 KiB fully parsed out
08:10.11WobAnd now I'll have that song stuck in my head all night =P
08:10.12Tekkub_you like Mr. Plow?
08:10.23Tekkub_I thought it was very fitting
08:10.25WobThat name again, is Mr Plow!
08:10.36Tekkub_take all your shit and shove it together
08:10.40WobAnd I can call the functions "Pile" and "Push" =)
08:11.48Tekkub_hrm...
08:12.14Tekkub_you like my idea about fixing the shitty ammo logic
08:12.36Tekkub_actually, that should apply to any consumable stack that's got more than one stack
08:12.52Tekkub_keep them laid out so the partial gets used first
08:13.23Tekkub_it'd minimize the need to call a plow
08:15.57Wobhrm, leave the full stacks to the end?
08:16.24Tekkub_I do believe the logic is it uses the first one it finds from the top of the bag
08:16.45Woband fills it up with the rest
08:17.06WobI can reverse that easily enough
08:17.40Wobexcept when it has more than one notfull stack...
08:17.48Wober more than two
08:18.22Wobokay
08:18.44Tekkub_whe you restack take from the first stack you find and push onto the next
08:18.55Tekkub_or actually...
08:18.58Tekkub_start at the back
08:19.22Tekkub_second stack you find after a partial stack, push it onto tho farther back stack
08:19.37Tekkub_so like.. if the stacks are say...
08:19.42Tekkub_12 13 10
08:19.50Tekkub_first: 12 3 20
08:20.01Tekkub_second: _ 15 20
08:21.50Tekkub_yours and mine ATM are comparable
08:21.53Tekkub_gah mt
08:26.20Wobmt?
08:30.54Wobhm. I'm going to have to incorporate a tally system into the restacking. It's not working perfectly with either 'dumping' onto the first' or stacking onto the next stack method
08:42.50Temhoooly crap!
08:43.12Tem285 UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED events
08:43.19Tekkub_yes Tem
08:43.23Temno wonder it's taking me forever to zone
08:43.25Tekkub_fun isn't it?
08:43.37TemItemCompare rescans everything on UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED
08:43.51Tekkub_BAG_UPDATE and UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED are the most fucked up events
08:44.20Tekkub_not just zoning, but god open your bank and move shit around
08:44.21Temok wtf
08:44.24Tekkub_split stacks
08:44.33Tekkub_sometimes one fires, sometimes the other
08:44.36Tekkub_sometimes both
08:44.42Tekkub_it's all fucktarderly
08:44.52TemI made IC ignore that even from PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD to PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
08:44.55Temand it got longer
08:44.59Temwtf?
08:45.12Temgranted there were 380 this time
08:45.25Tekkub_what else is watching that event?
08:48.19Temnot sure
08:48.34Temmaybe ItemRack
08:48.41Tekkub_yes it does
08:48.45Tekkub_lets see
08:48.47Tekkub_...
08:48.53Tekkub_AceHealStats
08:49.07Tekkub_Automake, Blizz_Inspect
08:49.12Tekkub_CasterStats
08:49.28Tekkub_MountMe (I should put a perf test on that
08:49.43Tekkub_Possessions, SpecialEvents (duh!)
08:50.07Temwhat does SE offer for that?
08:50.16Tekkub_SpellReagentCount, TitanAmmo, TitanItemBonuses
08:50.22Tekkub_for bag events?
08:50.24Tekkub_:)
08:50.32Tekkub_that's what it was first written for
08:50.34Temno for UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED
08:50.49Tem(inventory refers to the character's equipment here)
08:50.50Tekkub_UIC fires for bags AND equipped items
08:51.04Temyou have one for just equiped items?
08:51.05Tekkub_it's a fucked up event
08:51.12Tekkub_yes, check trac
08:51.33Tekkub_I fire specific events for bagslots, equipped, bank
08:51.44Tekkub_and it passes the item info with the event
08:51.52Temneat
08:52.13Tekkub_so like SPECIAL_BAGSLOT_UPDATE would pass bag, slot, itemlink, stacksize
08:52.39Temis itemlink in the form "item:X:X:X:X"?
08:52.43Tekkub_the only time you should need to do a full bag scan is on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
08:52.51Tekkub_no it's the full link
08:52.56Temboo
08:53.14Tekkub_sorry, only GetItemInfo takes that "mini" link bullshit
08:53.28Temif I need the full link I can make it myself
08:53.37TemSetHyperlink takes that form
08:53.45Tekkub_it sholud be able to take a full one and regex it down to the itex:x:x:x if it wants that
08:54.01Temregex is expensive
08:54.33Tekkub_yea but consistancy is a bigger concern with blizzard, frankly
08:54.45Tekkub_look at how I handle item requests in PT...
08:54.55Temtoo tired
08:55.04Tekkub_if it's a number just use it... if it's a string parse it for a number
08:55.16Temtomorrow I will make IC optionally use SE
08:55.17Tekkub_PT will take damn near any format of a link
08:55.37Wobrarr. 220 pages of auction house to scan
08:55.44WobThis is why I like the horde =P
08:55.50Tekkub_12345, "item:12345", "|cffffffff|Hitem:12345:0:0:0....."
08:57.04Tekkub_but yea, SE's event just passes on the link that blizzy's funcs return, it doesn't waste time shortening them down into the "item:0:0:0:0" format
08:57.13Tekkub_if you need that, do it yerself :)
08:57.53TemI'm pretty sure I was already doing that so it doesn't matter
08:58.00Tekkub_^^
08:58.13Tekkub_but yes, look at SE's inventory events
08:58.51Tekkub_hopefully they'll let you just update the item that changed, instead of that "scan everything every tim eit fires" crap thot everyone does
08:59.12Tem|Sleepyeah that's pretty much what IC has to do
08:59.29Tem|Sleepbut if it has already scanned an item the scan it does is nearly free
08:59.34Tem|Sleepso it's not a huge deal
08:59.47Tekkub_well then that's good :)
09:01.30Tem|Sleepwow I didn't remember had that trick in there
09:01.31GenNMX|ThraeWhat's wrong here? http://ace.pastebin.com/517216
09:01.57Tem|SleepI just found a really neat trick I used in IC's parsing to cut down on processing time even when you don't know the item ID
09:02.35GenNMX|ThraeI initialize a table entry to 0, then make a local reference to the full hash, set the value using the local reference, and the original reference is still 0!
09:02.44Tem|SleepI talk too much
09:02.59Tem|SleepSorry GenNMX|Thrae, I'm far too braindead to help you
09:03.11Tem|Sleepif you still need help in the morning I'd be glad to look at it
09:03.15Tem|Sleepnn people
09:28.50Wobbecause you're only changing the local?
09:28.50WobAren't you copying the value in the DB to the local tt, then adding to the local tt
09:28.52Wob?
09:29.25WobDo we have pointers in Lua?
12:03.01Tekkub_I WIN!
12:03.36Tekkub_just added a func to clean items in the worlddrop sets out of the raid/instance/boss sets....
12:04.11Tekkub_and a func that sweeps thru all sets, adds up how many times each item is found, and dumps out ones that show up in more than one place...
12:04.19Tekkub_aka probably world drop items :)
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15:23.34Wobhrm, can anyone think of a way to get the itemid of a bag currently in a slot?
15:23.56Wob(ie being used)
16:24.03WobHow does ace:LoadTranslation work?
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17:27.44cladhaireMorning Cair
17:31.02Cairennhey :)
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18:00.06Temmorning everyone
18:00.35WobUllo Tem. How is stuff?
18:00.45TemOk
18:01.19WobNot fabulous? =(
18:01.42TemI'm really hungry because I didn't eat yesterday
18:02.09WobNot eat? Any particular reason? Or just too busy a day?
18:02.44Tembusy
18:41.20Wobhrm, AceColor isn't actually hooked into the Ace install, is it?
18:43.26Temthe hell is AceColor?
18:44.07WobAceColor   : A collection of standard colors and a color print method.
18:44.21WobIt's just not listed in Ace.toc
18:45.16Temit's not part of my Ace
18:45.23Temwhere are you seeing this?
18:46.02Wob=\
18:46.22WobMaybe I've uploaded 1.3 on top of a previous version...
18:47.05Temit sounds like an addon to me
18:47.23WobNo... well, it's in my Ace folder...
18:47.30WobAnd in my Ace documentation =\
18:48.02WobSo I'm just assuming it's from the beta version or something, and I copied the release over the top of it
18:50.07FryGuyhrmph
18:50.12FryGuyis the webby down?
18:50.37FryGuywowace.com i mean :p
18:51.17Wob=(
18:51.19WobI think so
18:51.32WobJust as I was going to redownload it =P
18:51.47FryGuyit's been for a while though
18:51.49WobIt's usually around this time, isn't it? =P
18:51.51FryGuyfor me at least
18:53.31TemKaelten is paying too much for that server to such so much
18:55.12Temah, the server is being rebooted for maintenance atm
18:55.23Temand it's back
18:57.27Wobwooty
18:58.57Wobhrm, I still can't connect =\
18:59.55Temtry again
19:01.25Wobnyet =(
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21:20.57WobI hate using BAG_UPDATE =(
21:21.10WobIt keeps firing twice and three times in a row
21:21.21Wobat random times
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21:38.46cladhaireuse specialevents
21:47.27TemI wanna know who all these people that sit in this channel that never talk are
21:47.48dsfaffaI'm Sokurai. I'm a user. :x
21:47.53dsfaffa... oops
21:49.59Temlike I've never seen Andreas__ say anything before
21:50.18Temoh well
21:50.34TemI suppose I'll just have to assume they are government spies sent to kill me
21:50.50FryGuy!
21:50.52FryGuynot me :p
21:50.59TainYes, but whose government?
21:51.33FryGuy[2006-01-14 10:31:55] <ag`> cladhaire, in the onload section of a frame I have this:RegisterForClicks('LeftButtonUp', 'RightButtonUp')
21:51.39FryGuyandreas__ has talked :p
21:52.01Temoh is andreas__ one in the same with ag`?
21:52.06FryGuyseems
21:52.17FryGuy*** Andreas__ (n=Andreas@0x50c4844b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) joined
21:52.27FryGuy*** ag` (n=Andreas@0x50c4844b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) joined
21:52.37Temaha
22:01.17TainSomeone should learn Visor.  I don't have any ambition for it or any other addons right now.
22:03.20Woblearn Visor?
22:16.31TemSomone should learn FTS.  I don't have any ambition for it at the moment.
22:57.17TemTekkub_: you around?
23:16.53GenNMX|ThraeDoes anyone here use AceGUI?
23:18.04GenNMX|ThraeJust trying to follow the tutorial on the wiki, I get AceGUI.lua:66: attempt to index local 'def' (a nil value)
23:27.24TemI've done some work on it
23:27.31Tembut not enough to really know what I'm talking about

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