irclog2html for ##ace on 20060111

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`00:08.16`	`Tekkub`	`blizzard hates me`
`00:08.38`	`Tekkub`	`just as I finish up so I can go to bed, I can't log in to make sure it's all working correctly`
`00:08.40`	`Tekkub`	`fuckers`
`00:09.29`	`Cairenn`	`I would imagine that most of them are, yes`
`00:10.05`	`Tekkub`	`Cair, call up the slou man and tell him to go plug the login server back in`
`00:12.01`	`Cairenn`	`heh`
`00:12.34`	`Tekkub`	`you know what we should have gotten Blizzard for xmas....`
`00:12.38`	`Tekkub`	`new hampsters`
`00:12.41`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`00:13.20`	`Tekkub`	`and some sterroids for teh coders and hampsters for patch week`
`00:13.37`	`Tekkub`	`and horse tranqs for the coders for the week after that`
`00:14.06`	`cladhaire`	`should i grind from 50 - 60?`
`00:14.21`	`Tekkub`	`whacha grindin? wheat?`
`00:14.35`	`cladhaire`	`crotches actually`
`00:14.38`	`cladhaire`	`but i mean turtles in the game`
`00:14.42`	`Tekkub`	`growl`
`00:15.00`	`cladhaire`	`everytime i talk to a female goblin.. it weirds me out`
`00:15.02`	`Tekkub`	`shrug`
`00:15.02`	`cladhaire`	`cause they talk like Cair`
`00:15.12`	`Tekkub`	`giggle`
`00:15.14`	`cladhaire`	`not verbally.. but i feel sexually harassed`
`00:15.26`	`Tekkub`	`my god`
`00:15.38`	`Tekkub`	`I'm gonna enjoy talking to gobbies now`
`00:15.38`	ag``	`\o/ new apple laptops`
`00:15.43`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:15.46`	`Tekkub`	`Time is money friend`
`00:15.52`	`Tekkub`	`Yea whatcha want?`
`00:15.54`	ag``	`keep it real`
`00:16.05`	`Tekkub`	`I got what you need!`
`00:16.10`	`Cairenn`	`!`
`00:16.15`	`Tekkub`	`Right here!`
`00:16.19`	`Tekkub`	`In my pants!`
`00:16.26`	`Tekkub`	`oh wait... that's not what they say`
`00:16.53`	`Tekkub`	`I've got the best deals ANYWHERE!`
`00:16.53`	`cladhaire`	`"Hey there cutie"!`
`00:17.04`	`cladhaire`	`this goblin is hitting on me`
`00:17.05`	`cladhaire`	`OMG`
`00:17.10`	`cladhaire`	`brb food`
`00:17.14`	`Cairenn`	`you feel like I sexually harass you?`
`00:17.34`	`Tekkub`	`no I think he's saying you have a high pitch voice`
`00:17.39`	`Tekkub`	`and sell him cheap crap`
`00:18.04`	`Tekkub`	`that explodes...`
`00:18.51`	`Tekkub`	`okey, fuck dis chit`
`00:18.57`	`Tekkub`	`me go sleep`
`00:21.34`	`pagefault`	`kergoth, looks like that wonderful freeze bug is back again`
`00:23.48`	`kergoth`	`pagefault: its probably aceheal`
`00:26.29`	`cladhaire`	`hell no Cair`
`00:26.31`	`cladhaire`	`bring it on=)`
`00:28.07`	`kergoth`	`pagefault: also, countdoom is in the addon set now, disabled by default since its class specific. enable it yourself for your warlock(s), or whatever.`
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`00:32.01`	`pagefault`	`ok cool`
`00:32.01`	`pagefault`	`thanks`
`00:32.43`	`kergoth`	`i love my shell scripts. wow_addon TipBuddy 2.01 TipBuddy-2.01.zip -> unpacks the zip, locates the .toc, imports that directory into vendor/TipBuddy/current, tags it as vendor/TipBuddy/2.01, then does an svk star merge of the changes to trunk/KergothWOWBits/Addons/TipBuddy.`
`00:32.48`	`kergoth`	`such efficiency`
`00:33.39`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`00:35.00`	`kergoth`	`oh i know, i can make it better yet. have it extract the addon name and version from the .toc so i dont have to specify... naturally thatd only work if theres only one addon in the zip... wouldnt want it automatically doing all of them unless i specify that`
`00:35.15`	`kergoth`	`actually, i should switch it to python in that case, since my readme generator for the addon set already parses in the .toc files`
`00:42.30`	`Tain`	`You should switch to Monty Python. Works the same, but the commands and errors are much, much more entertaining.`
`00:45.13`	`Cairenn`	`omg, can you just imagine if there actually was?`
`00:48.12`	`Tain`	`It would be fun. :)`
`00:48.50`	`Cairenn`	`only for the first little while though ... I could see the humour value diminishing rapidly`
`00:49.05`	`GenNMX`	`There is, it's called Windows XP.`
`00:49.11`	`GenNMX`	`Because you have to be crazy to use it.`
`00:49.20`	`GenNMX`	`Then all those errors seem hilarious!`
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`04:01.07`	`kergoth`	`god druids are perfect herbalists`
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`04:10.23`	`GenNMX`	`Yep, they can grab 'em while shifted.`
`04:11.58`	`pagefault`	`kergoth, is it just me or does the button for enter battle not work in BGBuddy`
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`04:15.03`	`kergoth`	`pagefault: dunno, i havent done pvp in ages`
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`04:31.33`	`kergoth`	`Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua:107:tline = tline .. "Disechanting "`
`04:31.35`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`04:31.38`	`kergoth`	`disechanting :)`
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`05:06.43`	`weab`	`what ever happened to the ace-ing blizzard mods project`
`05:07.54`	`Codayus`	`<shrug>`
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`05:47.56`	`Kaelten`	`anyone here? if so does anyone know if inventoryids ever change`
`05:50.05`	`Codayus`	`I am here. I do not know.`
`05:50.53`	`GenNMX`	`Tekkub would definately know, I think part of the entire reason of SpecialEvents was to help fix that problem, among others.`
`05:52.38`	`Kaelten`	`can someone run this on their system for me? ace:print(ContainerIDToInventoryID(2))`
`05:52.42`	`Kaelten`	`tell me what it says`
`06:03.20`	`Kaelten`	`?`
`06:13.34`	`kergoth`	`woot, my shell script now unzips the supplied zip, iterates over all the .toc files, then for each one, pulls the name/version, imports it into my svn on the vendor branch, tags it as that version number, and if applicable, merges to trunk.`
`06:18.01`	`Kaelten`	`nice`
`06:18.08`	`Kaelten`	`I want to shoot my webserver thoough`
`06:20.38`	`Kaelten`	`gnight guys`
`06:24.53`	`kergoth`	`http://ace.pastebin.com/500431 :)`
`06:27.25`	`FryGuy`	`[21:52:44] <Kaelten> can someone run this on their system for me? ace:print(ContainerIDToInventoryID(2))`
`06:27.26`	`FryGuy`	`21`
`06:43.18`	`kergoth`	`he just logged off`
`06:44.48`	`kergoth`	`i loves my scripts - http://ace.pastebin.com/500442`
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`07:40.38`	`Codayus`	`kergoth: Hmm, I might be interested in that...`
`07:46.26`	`kergoth`	`svn & svk made addon set management a breeze. the merging makes it easy to update to new versions without losing local changes`
`07:49.24`	`FryGuy`	`svk?`
`07:50.01`	`kergoth`	`~svk`
`07:50.03`	`purl`	`well, svk is a decentralized version control system. It uses the Subversion filesystem but provides additional, powerful features. svk plays well with others, it can mirror remote Subversion, Perforce, and CVS repositories to perform offline operations. It supports star merges, cherry picking, etc. See http://svk.elixus.org/`
`07:58.51`	`Codayus`	`Any chance you could post the scripts somewhere? I'd be very interested.`
`08:02.39`	*** join/##ace id` (n=tom@gateway.is.remotion.nl)
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`08:07.59`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Morning all.`
`08:10.43`	id`	`http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14694`
`08:10.46`	id`	`grrrrrrrrr`
`08:11.03`	id`	`people like that deserve a ban`
`08:11.12`	id`	`and their messages deleted, no trace`
`08:13.25`	`[MoonWolf]`	id`, why he was polite correct and decent
`08:13.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`you simply don't agree.`
`08:13.42`	id`	`what you agree on that?`
`08:14.06`	`[MoonWolf]`	`no`
`08:14.08`	id`	`he's asking for a m od to spam messages into other channels`
`08:14.12`	id`	`so others can spam them on`
`08:14.15`	id`	`to others`
`08:14.20`	id`	`rediculous`
`08:14.26`	id`	`blasphemy! :P`
`08:14.53`	`[MoonWolf]`	`but he only wants to talk to the german people.`
`08:17.27`	`Tekkub`	`rawr`
`08:18.59`	`[MoonWolf]`	`morning`
`08:19.05`	`[MoonWolf]`	`don't get to close im all sick.`
`08:19.33`	`Codayus`	`I don't see the problem with the addon request...`
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`08:27.07`	`Tekkub`	`good fucking god`
`08:27.13`	`Tekkub`	`so anywho...`
`08:27.22`	`Tekkub`	`time to posty the War Tracker mod :)`
`08:27.36`	id`	`fuck shit fuck fuck fuck shit`
`08:27.39`	id`	`:X`
`08:27.42`	id`	`i hate windows!`
`08:27.44`	id`	`>_<`
`08:27.55`	`Codayus`	`?`
`08:27.55`	`[MoonWolf]`	id`, calm down.
`08:28.05`	id`	`windows explorer crashes randomly about 6-7 times a day when i am busy remote`
`08:28.07`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:28.09`	`Codayus`	To both Tekkub and id` since neither of you are making a lot of sense. :-)
`08:28.21`	id`	`making sense now?`
`08:28.22`	id`	`:\|`
`08:29.00`	id`	`i need a punchbag with gates' head on it`
`08:29.04`	id`	`:@`
`08:29.06`	id`	`reboot`
`08:29.29`	`Codayus`	`Hmm.`
`08:30.51`	`Codayus`	`I don't quite understand why he has so many problems with explorer...nor why he doesn't use something else if he does...but...meh.`
`08:32.27`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Yeah, ill tell him to switch too black box .`
`08:33.01`	`Cairenn`	`he has to use it at work`
`08:33.07`	`Cairenn`	`at home he uses Linux`
`08:33.12`	`Cairenn`	`(is my understanding)`
`08:33.37`	`Codayus`	`Interesting.`
`08:33.52`	`Codayus`	`That would explain why he doesn't use something else. :-)`
`08:34.01`	`Cairenn`	`indeed`
`08:34.32`	`Codayus`	`Although I'm still surprised at the instability...wonder whats wrong with it...`
`08:34.49`	`Cairenn`	`that, otoh, is a good question`
`08:34.55`	`Codayus`	`In my experience, that's usually a sign of dodgy hardware... <shrug>`
`08:35.22`	`Cairenn`	`I know, everyone here is a penguin lover, but I run Windows XP and have like no problems`
`08:35.35`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Cairenn, I did too for years.`
`08:36.00`	`Cairenn`	`and I've only just started playing around with Firefox the last few days, and I can't decide if I like it any more than IE`
`08:36.04`	`Codayus`	`I run XP too. I like Linux, but Linux + WoW doesn't like my video card. So....I run Windows.`
`08:36.14`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Well, it wasn't really recognizable as windows.`
`08:36.17`	`Codayus`	`And I last had explorer crash ummm...never?`
`08:36.20`	`Cairenn`	`everyone always bashes MS, but geez`
`08:36.36`	`weab`	`you've never had explorer crash?`
`08:36.48`	`[MoonWolf]`	`weab, once in two monts maybe.`
`08:36.54`	`[MoonWolf]`	`months*`
`08:37.01`	`Cairenn`	`I've had it crash, but not as often as id bitches about his crashing`
`08:37.09`	`weab`	`that's still not never :P`
`08:37.21`	`Cairenn`	`that was Codayus that said never :p`
`08:37.22`	`Codayus`	`weab: Not anytime in the last year maybe? I honestly can't recall the last one. And I abuse my system really hard.`
`08:37.57`	`Cairenn`	`the last time I crashed IE was when I was fucking things up, not IE`
`08:38.01`	`Codayus`	`weab: http://www.answers.com/hyperbole :-D`
`08:38.10`	`Cairenn`	`lol Codayus`
`08:38.41`	`Cairenn`	`and yeah, I know, I'm a heretic, right? call myself a geek yet don't loath MS`
`08:39.12`	`weab`	`i'm just nitpicking in order to incite arguement`
`08:39.13`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Bu`
`08:39.15`	`weab`	`i'm an ass like that`
`08:39.19`	`[MoonWolf]`	`BURN`
`08:39.21`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, my current uptime on this box is....32 days.`
`08:39.23`	`[MoonWolf]`	`:P`
`08:39.36`	`Codayus`	`Which no doubt means I'm missing some very important security updates. ;-)`
`08:40.07`	`Cairenn`	`ah, now that I don't do`
`08:40.17`	`Cairenn`	`I install updates and reboot`
`08:40.27`	`Codayus`	`But still, I know nothing has crashed since I last booted, and 32 days is perfectly acceptable for any OS.`
`08:41.35`	`Cairenn`	`I just, it amuses me some days, the way folks bash MS all the time`
`08:42.08`	`Codayus`	`I credit an~ instictive urge to form tribes.`
`08:42.49`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I credit slashdot.`
`08:42.52`	`Tekkub`	`Titan [WarBonds] is up ^^`
`08:44.02`	`Tekkub`	`Cair I agree, people sound like Rowne bashing Blizzy's programming with the MS bashing`
`08:44.21`	`Cairenn`	`yes, MS isn't perfect`
`08:44.27`	`Tekkub`	`noone is :P`
`08:44.38`	`Cairenn`	`but guess what, neither is Apple, nor is Linux (insert flavour here)`
`08:44.48`	`Tekkub`	`and frankly, MS is doing something right`
`08:44.58`	`Tekkub`	`or they'd go out of biz`
`08:45.04`	`Cairenn`	`obviously, since they are still the OS of choice in the business world`
`08:45.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Cairenn, but how do they keep this position ?`
`08:45.25`	`Tekkub`	`sure, they try to do everything they can, I mean they are a monopoly and all`
`08:45.33`	`Tekkub`	`and they don't do everything right`
`08:45.41`	`Tekkub`	`but the OS is pretty good really`
`08:46.06`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Also, the get the facts campaign about linux is nothing but lies upon lies.`
`08:46.23`	`Cairenn`	`?`
`08:46.27`	`Tekkub`	`How Wolf? the learning curve on MS Office and Windows isn't as harsh as Linux's`
`08:46.34`	`Cairenn`	`"get the facts" campaign?`
`08:46.35`	`Tekkub`	`and users can be really stupid`
`08:46.36`	`Codayus`	`A lot goes into an OS. Linux types tend to value the bits that Linux is very good at (which is WHY it's good at it), and not to think much of UI, marketing, support...`
`08:46.40`	`Sokurai`	`OMFGZ GUSY BUT U DON'T C THAT MS IS JUST EVIL OMG IT"S TRENDY! D:..... I'll go back to my corner now :p`
`08:46.48`	`Tekkub`	`never underestimate your user's stupidity`
`08:47.09`	`Tekkub`	`and MS does a much better job of protecting the computer from it's user than linux does`
`08:47.14`	`Codayus`	`Apple types tend to value UI highly. If they didn't, they would be fans of Apple - but since they are, they think (and it's correct for them) that Apple is better.`
`08:47.23`	`[MoonWolf]`	`http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/default.mspx`
`08:47.34`	`Tekkub`	`in fact, that's kinda the total antithesis of linux's design`
`08:47.51`	`Tekkub`	`linux assumes the user can be trusted not to botch up the basic shit`
`08:48.30`	`Codayus`	`Marketing is important (and it's a lot more than just advertising too). If it wasn't, companies wouldn't pay so much money for it. :-)`
`08:49.03`	`Tekkub`	`Yea Cod.... I continue my pursuid of an advertising free world`
`08:49.32`	`Codayus`	`Tekkub: Good luck with that. :-)`
`08:49.44`	`Tekkub`	`actually it's gone fairly well :)`
`08:49.59`	`Tekkub`	`online I can remove them, TV I can cemove them...`
`08:50.00`	`Codayus`	`Really? Hmm. How are you measuring sucess?`
`08:50.10`	`Tekkub`	`I refuse to go to a movie theatre anymore`
`08:50.25`	`Tekkub`	`how many ads I see on a daily basis :)`
`08:50.26`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Tekkub, what server are you measuring on ?`
`08:50.30`	`Codayus`	`Okay, fair enough. How do you handle product placement? :-)`
`08:50.36`	`Tekkub`	`what server?`
`08:50.46`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yeah`
`08:50.54`	`Cairenn`	`aaaanyway guys, I really should go try to do that sleep thing`
`08:50.55`	`[MoonWolf]`	`because the alliance is ahead of the horde for a change.`
`08:51.00`	`Tekkub`	`Cod, for one I don't watch much "new" TV`
`08:51.03`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Cairenn, not a bad idea.`
`08:51.12`	`Cairenn`	`night all`
`08:51.18`	`Tekkub`	`and product placement in future-scifi is kinda hard to do :)`
`08:51.34`	`Tekkub`	`I mean... Pepsi on Battlestar?`
`08:51.37`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Tekkub, hmm half my tv viewing happens on this pc. from torrents`
`08:51.42`	`Tekkub`	`I'd stop watching if they did that`
`08:51.56`	`[MoonWolf]`	`stupid backwards country not getting the good shows.`
`08:51.56`	`Tekkub`	`monn, all my viewing happens on PC :)`
`08:52.01`	`Codayus`	`Personally, I don't watch televsion or movies...but I suspect that's not a good solution for everyone.`
`08:52.06`	`Codayus`	`Night Cairenn.`
`08:52.11`	`Tekkub`	`and yea, it's half anime downloads and half recorded`
`08:52.11`	`[MoonWolf]`	`night night.`
`08:52.31`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Also, someone start making a good Scifi show again`
`08:52.36`	`Tekkub`	`but really all I record is Stargate, BSG, and the hubby's shows`
`08:52.39`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i don't like what SG 1 is at`
`08:52.52`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Atlantis was nice the first season, but now, meh`
`08:52.58`	`[MoonWolf]`	`firefly was killed`
`08:52.59`	`Tekkub`	`heh, SG1 became the "pity-employment" show at SciFi`
`08:53.08`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Andromeda is dead`
`08:53.21`	`Tekkub`	`oh we bought your show and cancelled it? Here you can be on SG1`
`08:53.34`	`Tekkub`	`Rommie's on SG1 now :P`
`08:53.44`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Farscape was the worst canceling ever.`
`08:53.46`	`Tekkub`	`and yea, she sucks on it too`
`08:53.49`	`[MoonWolf]`	`romie in in tool.`
`08:53.52`	`Tekkub`	`it's a halfassed role`
`08:54.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`see, im happy that im not watching sg1 anymore.`
`08:54.13`	`Tekkub`	`yea moon, I think SciFi got a few Fox execs the past few years`
`08:54.26`	`Tekkub`	`fox has a wonderful ability to cancel their best shows`
`08:54.37`	`Tekkub`	`and SciFi's cancelled all but Stargate`
`08:54.45`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yeah, oh we have this great show the tons of people like and watch.`
`08:54.52`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Lets cancel it for no apperent reason.`
`08:54.57`	`Tekkub`	`exactly`
`08:55.02`	`[MoonWolf]`	`in the shows biggest cliffhanger to date`
`08:55.06`	`Tekkub`	`at least FamGuy came back`
`08:55.20`	`Tekkub`	`and there's still rumors that Futurama might get revived too`
`08:55.26`	`[MoonWolf]`	`cool.`
`08:55.35`	`Tekkub`	`and SciFi did back Firefly in an attempt to revive the show`
`08:55.37`	`[MoonWolf]`	`at least buffy was finished properly`
`08:55.42`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Angel was killed off too.`
`08:55.44`	`Tekkub`	`but the movie didn't do good enogh`
`08:55.57`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Charmed still runs`
`08:56.05`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and that concludes all the shows i liked.`
`08:56.10`	`Tekkub`	`Roh watches charmed`
`08:56.21`	`Tekkub`	`it's a tad too "WB hokey" for me`
`08:56.34`	`Tekkub`	`but I don't mind it`
`08:56.48`	`Tekkub`	`buffy/angel falls in the same category really`
`08:56.58`	`[MoonWolf]`	`angel was cool`
`08:57.06`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i refuse to hear otherwise.`
`08:57.08`	`Tekkub`	`but after seeing firefly/serenity I'm halfway open to Joss's work now`
`08:59.06`	`Tekkub`	`BTW, my War Effort tracker Titan plugin is up on WoWI ^^`
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`09:03.48`	`*** topic/##ace is Ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons \| http://www.wowace.com/ \| http://ace.pastebin.com/ \|`
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`09:20.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`back`
`09:24.44`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Tekkub, anythings special that you watch ?`
`09:27.15`	`kergoth`	`[MoonWolf]: if you havent fixed it already, there's a little typo in mendeleev. s/disechant/disenchant/`
`09:27.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`oops`
`09:27.26`	`[MoonWolf]`	`fixing.`
`09:27.46`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`09:28.08`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Btw, ker what file manager do you use ?`
`09:29.46`	`kergoth`	`in windows or linux? in windows i've used explorerplus and powerdesk, it varies. in linux, i'm a commandline junkie. i just do it manually or write quick shell scripts to do what needs doing`
`09:30.12`	`[MoonWolf]`	`in windows i actually like explorer.`
`09:30.38`	`[MoonWolf]`	`in linux i have been using krusader, but i was simply looking for some more options to try.`
`09:30.53`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and i like mc on the command line.`
`09:31.34`	`[MoonWolf]`	`mostly because of its edit like editor.`
`09:31.41`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i like that a lot for quick file editing.`
`09:32.58`	`kergoth`	`i hear good things about mc. not really my style, but i hear good things`
`09:33.50`	`[MoonWolf]`	`kergoth, ever used norton commander ?`
`09:33.59`	`kergoth`	`long, long ago`
`09:34.12`	`[MoonWolf]`	`very similar only more up to date`
`09:34.44`	`kergoth`	`http://ace.pastebin.com/500442 <-example usage of my new script for updating addons in my addon set in svn`
`09:34.59`	`Tekkub`	`fishing is a lot more enjoyable with the nodes`
`09:35.05`	`Tekkub`	`and the new item crates :)`
`09:35.08`	`kergoth`	`indeed`
`09:35.18`	`kergoth`	`oily blackmouths make me a fair bit of cash`
`09:35.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`one day ill learn how to use command line svn proper`
`09:35.26`	`Tekkub`	`ya`
`09:35.28`	`[MoonWolf]`	`today is not that day.`
`09:35.47`	`kergoth`	`is that script cool or what though? talk about efficient.`
`09:35.47`	`Tekkub`	`I get like half items, half fish to sell`
`09:35.56`	`Tekkub`	`and every now and then a fish for AQ`
`09:35.58`	`kergoth`	`anything i can do to save myself time is ftw`
`09:36.08`	`kergoth`	`where do you fish most of the time?`
`09:36.32`	`kergoth`	`my druid is only 22, so its mostly the nodes by ratchet, and i grab all the stranglekelp off the coast while i'm in the area`
`09:36.32`	`[MoonWolf]`	`The new fishing nodes really bring fishing back to its usefullness before the huge fishing nerf.`
`09:38.09`	`[MoonWolf]`	`kergoth, fixed it.`
`09:38.15`	`Tekkub`	`and fishing buddy ain't a half bad mod :)`
`09:38.25`	`Tekkub`	`wonder what it's resource use is...`
`09:38.38`	`kergoth`	`hmm, rainbow fin albacore is an aq item? i've got rainbow fin albacore coming out my ears`
`09:38.48`	`Tekkub`	`yea, ally side :)`
`09:38.58`	`kergoth`	`bah`
`09:39.00`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`09:39.00`	`Tekkub`	`that's why I'm in Hillsbee now`
`09:39.01`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i think kergoth is horde.`
`09:39.09`	`Tekkub`	`the other foods are done on Icecrown`
`09:39.26`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Put it in the steemwheedle cartel AH.`
`09:40.42`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`09:44.08`	`[MoonWolf]`	`making an addon localizable is boring.`
`09:48.31`	`Tekkub`	`I love the fished up rum too, they want ya drinking beer and fishing`
`09:49.41`	`[MoonWolf]`	`my addon has 35 strings that need to be localized.`
`09:53.09`	`kergoth`	`why do i have BITCHES by insane clown posse stuck in my head?`
`09:54.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`because you played it ?`
`09:55.56`	`kergoth`	`not since a couple days ago`
`09:56.20`	`[MoonWolf]`	`hmm`
`09:56.27`	`[MoonWolf]`	`the brain is a weird thing.`
`09:56.30`	`kergoth`	`indeed`
`10:07.09`	`[MoonWolf]`	`almost done.`
`10:09.31`	`[MoonWolf]`	`to bad i cannot test because of the damn server downtime`
`10:10.06`	`Tekkub`	`ha ha`
`10:22.33`	`Tekkub`	`I think they changed Chest mechanics`
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`10:23.03`	`Tekkub`	`if you try to open a chest everything nearby aggros... like at the range of a player the level of the chest`
`10:25.35`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, in my experience, chests have linked mobs.`
`10:25.38`	`Codayus`	`<shrug>`
`10:25.52`	`Codayus`	`That was prior to 1.9, of course, it could have changed...`
`10:26.14`	`Tekkub`	`oh, mah, gawd, becky....`
`10:26.35`	`Tekkub`	`check out Blizzard_AuctionUI.XML line 942`
`10:26.50`	`Tekkub`	`and Blizzard_BindingUI.lua line 19`
`10:26.56`	`Codayus`	`Oh? Hmm`
`10:27.13`	`Codayus`	`I don't have a copy of those around....`
`10:27.17`	`Codayus`	`Pastebin?`
`10:27.29`	`Tekkub`	`why don't you? you do play the game right?`
`10:27.39`	`Codayus`	`Yes?`
`10:27.42`	`Codayus`	`Where are they?`
`10:27.46`	`Tekkub`	`addons`
`10:27.47`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`10:27.50`	`Tekkub`	`noob`
`10:27.52`	`Codayus`	`Um...where?`
`10:28.03`	`Tekkub`	`in their respective folders`
`10:28.09`	`Codayus`	`Um...no?`
`10:28.32`	`Tekkub`	`you have a post-patch1.7 client yes?`
`10:28.39`	`Codayus`	`We'd be talking about <game dir>\Interface\AddOns\Blizzard_AuctionUI`
`10:28.52`	`Codayus`	`Right. 1.9.1, I guess it is now.`
`10:29.00`	`Tekkub`	`then yes, you have em`
`10:29.16`	`Codayus`	`The contents of that folder is: Blizzard_AuctionUI.pub`
`10:29.24`	`Codayus`	`Nothing else.`
`10:29.55`	`Codayus`	`And that's only ~1 kB.`
`10:30.33`	`[MoonWolf]`	`simply link a pastebin.`
`10:30.36`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i want to see it too.`
`10:30.46`	`Codayus`	`Where do you get those files, anyhow?`
`10:31.17`	`[MoonWolf]`	`if you use the blizzard file extractor tool`
`10:31.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`they get put there`
`10:31.25`	`Codayus`	`That's what I thought.`
`10:33.08`	`Tekkub`	`Last I remember the game auto-extracted them on launch, that got changed?`
`10:33.14`	`Codayus`	`<shrug>`
`10:33.35`	`Tekkub`	`from auction: RegisterForSave("SHOW_ON_CHAR");`
`10:33.42`	`Codayus`	`I don't have them. So if it auto-extracted them, it apparently started auto-deleting them. And since you DO have them, I'm guessing no.`
`10:33.45`	`Tekkub`	`and bindings: RegisterForSave("HAS_CHARACTER_SPECIFIC_BINDINGS");`
`10:34.04`	`Codayus`	`Heh`
`10:34.21`	`Tekkub`	`time to give the slou man crap`
`10:36.11`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yeah`
`10:36.29`	`[MoonWolf]`	`stop using depricated fucntions!!!`
`10:37.12`	`Tekkub`	`MoogHUD uses it too... bastards`
`10:44.02`	`[MoonWolf]`	`moogHUD ?`
`11:16.43`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Releasing localisation ready mendeleev now.`
`11:16.54`	`[MoonWolf]`	`after dinner that is.`
`11:39.04`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Mendeleev 0.4.1 is out`
`11:39.12`	`[MoonWolf]`	`localize to your hearts content`
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`11:50.02`	id`	`oh noes, gaim IRC`
`11:50.02`	id`	`:p`
`11:50.26`	`Tekkub`	`rawr`
`11:50.42`	id`	`tekkub you color purple`
`11:50.43`	id`	`:\|`
`11:50.58`	`Tekkub`	`ugh... I should just stop using trill for IRC`
`11:51.14`	id`	`indeed`
`11:51.17`	id`	`try gaim`
`11:51.19`	id`	`well`
`11:51.22`	id`	`for irc, irssi`
`11:51.22`	`Tekkub`	`no`
`11:51.23`	id`	`:p;`
`11:51.31`	`Tekkub`	`irssi?`
`11:51.36`	id`	`yes`
`11:52.28`	id`	`http://www.irssi.org/themes`
`11:59.43`	id`	`you likey?`
`11:59.47`	id`	`i likey :<`
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`12:16.53`	`Tekkub`	`no id, stop assuming people use a certain OS`
`12:16.57`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`12:17.16`	id`	`it runs on any os exept windows!`
`12:17.20`	id`	`jeez :p`
`12:17.35`	`Tekkub`	`yea well, there's an assumption :P`
`12:17.52`	id`	`well i exclude 1 out of everything in the friggen world`
`12:17.55`	`Tekkub`	`it runs on *nix and not Windows :P`
`12:18.05`	id`	`:p`
`12:18.15`	id`	`get a free shell account \o/`
`12:18.16`	`Tekkub`	`one out of two you mean ^^`
`12:18.26`	`Tekkub`	`where? :P`
`12:18.31`	id`	`*nix isnt one os :>`
`12:18.36`	id`	`Tekkub: gewgle?`
`12:18.37`	id`	`:D`
`12:18.55`	`Tekkub`	`sure it is`
`12:19.10`	`Tekkub`	`you clump all Windows versions together, I clump all *nix together`
`12:19.25`	`Tekkub`	`why would I want a shell acct tho?`
`12:20.39`	id`	`to run irssi`
`12:20.40`	id`	`:d`
`12:21.05`	`Tekkub`	`linux people's logic is so stupid sometimes`
`12:21.11`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`12:21.52`	id`	`what? people offer you an os to use FOR FREE and to access it SECURELY from anywhere in the world where there is internet`
`12:22.09`	id`	`and its even a BETTER os then the one you are running right now`
`12:22.13`	id`	`how cool is that`
`12:22.15`	id`	`:P`
`12:22.18`	`Tekkub`	`hum, I didn't pay a dime for my OS either`
`12:22.30`	id`	`but it sucks and is incompatibboe with good IRC software`
`12:22.34`	id`	`ke ke ke`
`12:22.43`	`Tekkub`	`and I can access it from anywhere securily too... If I were un-lazy enough to forward the ports`
`12:22.46`	id`	`(sorry im a dick :P)`
`12:23.07`	id`	`(sometimes)`
`12:23.11`	id`	`(for funs)`
`12:24.18`	id`	`(13:22:25) Shouryuu: does Xchat work with ubuntu?`
`12:24.18`	id`	(13:23:28) id`: no it will crash and tell you to use www.archlinux.org
`12:24.21`	id`	`ha ha, :-)`
`12:43.17`	`phyber`	`http://pp.kpnet.fi/blaze/irssi/`
`12:43.24`	`phyber`	`standalone cygwin irssi build`
`12:43.35`	`phyber`	`it's an old version, but it works.`
`12:47.17`	`Codayus`	`Personaly, I feel irssi + screen + ssh is vastly superior to all alternative clients. I'd argue that it'd make perfect sense to obtain a shell account simply for the purpose of running irssi + screen. :-)`
`12:48.13`	`Codayus`	`OTOH, YMMV. I just really like irssi. <shrug>`
`12:49.15`	`steino`	`only thing is that screen can sometimes be buggy ^^`
`12:49.32`	`Codayus`	`steino: <shrug> I've never had a problem with it. What kind of bugs?`
`12:49.53`	`steino`	`it locks up and wount let you reattach`
`12:49.57`	`steino`	`f.ex`
`12:50.17`	`steino`	`but it seems to be more rare now adays`
`12:53.48`	id`	`yep`
`12:54.50`	`steino`	`i remember when i tried screen on cygwin.. ooh the bugs :p`
`12:55.11`	id`	`cygwin is weird i dont use it`
`12:55.21`	id`	`i like windows better without`
`12:55.22`	id`	`:P`
`12:55.27`	`steino`	`me neither, i just wanted to test irssi on win32`
`12:55.46`	`steino`	`:P`
`12:55.57`	`Codayus`	`Oh, yeah, screen and cygwin just don't work.`
`12:56.04`	`Codayus`	`Too many needed bits missing from the OS.`
`12:56.13`	`steino`	`with some tweaking it does :p`
`12:56.17`	`steino`	`kinda`
`12:56.21`	`Tekkub`	`god, in my boredom I almost went and updated/uploaded shit to curse`
`12:56.27`	`Codayus`	`Emphasis on the "kinda" :-/`
`12:56.32`	`steino`	`well`
`12:56.37`	`steino`	`you can start screen and deattach`
`12:56.44`	`steino`	`but not reattach again properly`
`12:56.59`	`steino`	`and it freezes alot`
`13:14.37`	`phyber`	`12:49:53 < steino> it locks up and wount let you reattach`
`13:14.43`	`phyber`	`you hitting Ctrl+A S`
`13:14.43`	`phyber`	`?`
`13:18.24`	`steino`	`no :p`
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`13:33.50`	id`	`Tekkub: haha`
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`14:37.27`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Whenever you do something on your computer (open a window, read an email, open your browser, change pages in your browser via forward, back, refresh etc) you get whats called a cookie. Every cookie goes to the end of where the free space is on your computer. After so many cookies, when all the free space (memory) is used up on your hard drive, it will use what's called virtual memory. The virtual memory is what your computer needs to`
`14:37.27`	`[MoonWolf]`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`14:53.44`	`Tekkub`	`hrm... how much is a good tip for an enchanter if you have the mats?`
`14:59.52`	`Tain`	`"Don't take any wooden nickles."`
`15:00.15`	`Tekkub`	`no, I'm looking for an enchant`
`15:01.44`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Tekkub, that depens on how good i know the enchanter, how nice he is , the phase of the moon and proximitry to the closest layline.`
`15:02.02`	`[MoonWolf]`	`or leyline i forget.`
`15:04.54`	`Tain`	`I don't know actually, Tekkub. I've always had a guildmate or friend do enchants.`
`15:05.07`	`Tain`	`Not sure what would be considered reasonable.`
`15:14.16`	`Tekkub`	`yea I've pestered my guild a few times but noone has riding speed enchant`
`15:15.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`http://www.davesdaily.com/pictures/534-tattoo.htm`
`15:16.13`	`Tekkub`	`eeww... scrawny`
`15:16.53`	`[MoonWolf]`	`its the tattoo Tekkub the tattoo, its funny!`
`15:16.56`	`Tain`	`You could always just ask the enchanter who is willing to do it. At that point it's what I'd do.`
`15:16.57`	`[MoonWolf]`	`for my anyway.`
`15:17.13`	`Tekkub`	`yes, amusing`
`15:17.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`me*`
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`16:54.42`	id`	`I'm baaaaaaack`
`16:54.43`	id`	`http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=941`
`16:54.45`	id`	`:P`
`17:05.26`	`Tain`	`Man, you and Moon need to take some customer service courses.`
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`17:07.29`	id`	`I'm not selling anything`
`17:07.56`	id`	`I'm trying to make good addons and learn as i go.`
`17:10.21`	id`	`Sorry if i make you think im too much of an ass :< (a little is fine right? :>)`
`17:11.32`	`Tain`	`Yeah, I just usually see a difference between idiot questions and one like that guy who was pretty polite about it.`
`17:12.02`	`Tain`	`I mean really I'm as much of an ass as anyone. And even at inappropriate times so I probably shouldn't even say anything.`
`17:12.32`	id`	`ill edit it, you're right`
`17:12.34`	`Tain`	`If it ever comes down to me being the voice of reason you better head for the mountains.`
`17:12.51`	id`	`:X`
`17:14.54`	id`	`hmm EU auth server(s?) is down`
`17:15.45`	`Cairenn`	`it is Wednesday, aka EU maintenance day`
`17:15.51`	id`	`ya`
`17:15.58`	id`	`but cmon`
`17:16.10`	id`	`the server message says like 20 servers will be offline till thursday`
`17:16.13`	id`	`doesnt mean ALL`
`17:16.15`	id`	`:p`
`17:16.38`	id`	`it downloaded my update \o/`
`17:16.49`	`Tain`	`I thought Wednesday was spaghetti day`
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`17:21.22`	`kergoth`	`goddamnit. i cant find my nice $350 maui jim sunglasses anywhere :(`
`17:21.41`	`kergoth`	`could really use a decent pair for the drive to arizona`
`17:21.45`	`kergoth`	`grr`
`17:22.16`	id`	`I'm testing cosmos`
`17:22.23`	id`	`SO backing up everything i have`
`17:22.24`	id`	`:P`
`17:22.33`	`Tem`	`why would you do something like that?`
`17:22.35`	`Tain`	`~masochist`
`17:22.38`	`purl`	Masochist : MASS ` O ` KIST : <see also sendmail>
`17:22.38`	`Tem`	`(test cosmos)`
`17:22.39`	id`	`so see what it offers`
`17:22.43`	id`	`and what i like about it`
`17:22.46`	id`	`and what ill rip from it`
`17:22.47`	`kergoth`	`hahaha`
`17:22.48`	id`	`:D`
`17:22.50`	`kergoth`	`~botsnack`
`17:22.50`	`purl`	`thanks, kergoth`
`17:22.55`	`kergoth`	`see also sendmail`
`17:22.57`	`kergoth`	`thats great`
`17:23.00`	`Tain`	`I love that one`
`17:23.03`	id`	`~sendmail`
`17:23.05`	`purl`	`Powerful and flexible Mail Transport Agent. URL: http://www.sendmail.org/`
`17:23.19`	id`	`? :X`
`17:23.28`	`kergoth`	`sendmail is ubiquitous on the net. its easily the most popular mailserver in existance`
`17:23.42`	`kergoth`	`incredibly powerful, and also a huge, huge pain in the ass to configure`
`17:24.47`	id`	`is ee`
`17:26.20`	`Tain`	`I think everyone who runs Linux should be required to configure sendmail at least once. Sort of a passage of rite.`
`17:26.26`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`17:26.27`	`Tain`	`err rite of passage`
`17:26.29`	`Tain`	`hah damn`
`17:26.35`	id`	`i only have used linux as a workstations :(`
`17:26.45`	`Tain`	`Brain broke today`
`17:26.47`	id`	`only trouble i had with it were things with X and just things not working`
`17:26.59`	`kergoth`	`i had to learn it, but i never use it unless i absolutely have to`
`17:27.04`	id`	`never really used it as a thing to "work on" though... more as a toy`
`17:27.12`	id`	`:\`
`17:27.20`	id`	`cause ima hardcore gamer :D`
`17:27.30`	`Tain`	`I have configured sendmail on my system, but I wouldnt' say I learned it. heh`
`17:27.36`	id`	`hehe`
`17:27.56`	`kergoth`	`did you guys see my craaaazy wow addon set addon updater script? http://ace.pastebin.com/500519 :)`
`17:28.08`	`Tain`	`But I did start using postfix instead.`
`17:28.16`	id`	`kergoth, OMG`
`17:28.19`	`kergoth`	`postfix hurts much less`
`17:28.29`	id`	`ZOMGWTFBBQSAUCE`
`17:28.30`	id`	`:P`
`17:28.32`	id`	`n stuff`
`17:28.41`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`17:28.51`	id`	`wow i know alot of people that call their box hyperion`
`17:29.10`	`kergoth`	`hehe, really? its a good book, as are the rest in the series`
`17:29.17`	`kergoth`	`which is where i got it from`
`17:29.33`	id`	`kergoth, have you ever noticed making smilies in #vim isnt a good idea?`
`17:29.38`	id`	`>:P`
`17:30.05`	`Tain`	`I named mine 'floor' in honor of a BBS I ran many years ago, The 95th Floor.`
`17:30.31`	`kergoth`	`ugh`
`17:30.44`	`kergoth`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:30.49`	`kergoth`	`Import/Tag of version 0.3 of Mendeleev is complete.`
`17:30.59`	id`	`weheres mendeleev?`
`17:31.02`	id`	`on svn?`
`17:31.04`	`kergoth`	`~lart [MoonWolf]`
`17:31.10`	`kergoth`	`he didnt update the version in the .toc`
`17:31.12`	`kergoth`	`:P`
`17:31.15`	id`	`lol`
`17:31.25`	`kergoth`	`now i need a --forceversion commandline argument`
`17:31.28`	`kergoth`	`to override the .toc files`
`17:31.29`	`kergoth`	`bah`
`17:31.43`	`Tain`	`hah`
`17:32.30`	id`	`Let your might and compassion arise and bring a stop to the flowing river of blood and tears.`
`17:32.31`	id`	`wow`
`17:32.35`	id`	`:O`
`17:33.31`	`Tain`	`Damn I need to make room in the Saien file.`
`17:33.35`	`Tain`	`"Why do I care? Why are you posting here?"`
`17:33.47`	id`	`:p`
`17:35.38`	`Tem`	`Tain: did he post that?`
`17:35.50`	`Tain`	`Yep`
`17:37.45`	id`	`Somebody needs to get laid`
`17:37.48`	id`	`imo`
`17:37.50`	id`	`;x`
`17:38.46`	`Tain`	`~emulate Saien`
`17:38.47`	`purl`	`Why do I care? Why are you posting here?`
`17:41.30`	`Tain`	`Going to look at a one bedroom apartment this week that's $400 a month including utilities.`
`17:41.35`	`Tain`	`Sounds shady to me.`
`17:42.03`	`Tain`	`But a friend of mine that I do trust looked at it already and said it isn't. So.. we'll see.`
`17:44.17`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Tain, promising more then you are going to get ?`
`17:45.08`	`kergoth`	`400? damn`
`17:45.23`	`Tem`	`damn that's cheap`
`17:46.11`	`[MoonWolf]`	`you know, about that 400 , here is the utility bill.`
`17:46.29`	`Tain`	`Utilities are included.`
`17:47.03`	`[MoonWolf]`	`kergoth, what ?`
`17:47.08`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i did not update the tocl`
`17:47.09`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lies!`
`17:47.27`	`Tain`	`We'll see! Maybe lady luck is coming my way.`
`17:48.19`	`[MoonWolf]`	`bad me!`
`17:48.23`	`kergoth`	`i think i'll change the defaults of the script. right now it defaults to importing the sources of every addon in the .zip, but thats iffy. its more common to see deps included (and often old versions of them) than it is to see a .zip with more than one addon`
`17:48.31`	`kergoth`	`hehe, no worries moon`
`17:48.40`	`kergoth`	`doubt anyone but me really cared`
`17:48.48`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I think im going to try something new today`
`17:48.55`	`[MoonWolf]`	`see if i can write some shellscripts in lua`
`17:49.03`	`[MoonWolf]`	`according to pil it should be possible`
`17:49.18`	`kergoth`	`what do you mean?`
`17:49.43`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Linux scripting in lUA`
`17:50.01`	`kergoth`	`i still dont see what you mean.`
`17:50.08`	`kergoth`	`shell scripting is by definition using the shell, not lua`
`17:50.13`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yeah`
`17:50.36`	`[MoonWolf]`	`okay, wrong wording.`
`17:50.40`	`kergoth`	`so you're going to script with lua outside of wow for the first time`
`17:50.44`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`17:51.06`	`kergoth`	`it works well. sometimes it can be frustrating that its libraries arent as feature rich as the python ones, but luacheia has just about everything`
`17:51.12`	`kergoth`	`you should check that out if you havent already`
`17:51.22`	`kergoth`	`http://luacheia.lua-users.org/`
`17:51.27`	`kergoth`	`check out the Module List on that page`
`17:51.43`	`[MoonWolf]`	`will do.`
`17:51.45`	`Tain`	`Where's the LuaOS?`
`17:52.13`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I figured that by now i know more about lua scripting then bash. so why not use lua for such things.`
`17:52.16`	`kergoth`	`Tain: havent done it with lua, but when my shell binary got hosed one time, i did init=/usr/bin/perl on the kernel commandline and dropped right into a perl interpreter to recover the system`
`17:52.20`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`17:52.22`	`Tain`	`Ooh maybe I can make Lua.NET`
`17:52.37`	`Tain`	`hehe kergoth, that's funny`
`17:52.53`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yeah that is a cool idea`
`17:53.09`	`kergoth`	`actually, it wouldnt surprise me if someone has done a shell that has lua scripting capabilities built in`
`17:53.11`	`kergoth`	`thatd be slick`
`17:53.19`	`[MoonWolf]`	`kergoth, you have more then one shell laying around by default right`
`17:53.21`	`Tain`	`Yeah`
`17:53.25`	`[MoonWolf]`	`why not drop an ash shell ?`
`17:53.29`	`kergoth`	`on most machines.`
`17:53.35`	id`	`kergoth, maybe zsh has it ;P`
`17:53.53`	`kergoth`	`that was back before i started keeping a statically linked dash/ash binary around :)`
`17:53.59`	`kergoth`	`say.. '97 or so`
`17:54.03`	`[MoonWolf]`	`ah`
`17:54.21`	`kergoth`	`had to learn that lesson the hard way :)`
`17:54.32`	`Tain`	`Yeah that's the thing, lots of shells out there, but not statically linked unless you do it. :)`
`17:54.37`	`kergoth`	`hehe, this other time i hosed the glibc on a _remote_ machine right`
`17:54.46`	`kergoth`	`so i couldnt ssh in, it couldnt run the shell to get me in`
`17:54.53`	`kergoth`	`and i accidentally logged out of my existing one`
`17:55.06`	`kergoth`	`thankfully i nmap'd it and found a vnc server someone left running, with pwm and an xterm running`
`17:55.07`	`kergoth`	`:D`
`17:55.13`	`Tain`	`haha`
`17:55.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`kergoth, pure luck that one.`
`17:55.28`	`kergoth`	`yep`
`17:57.32`	`[MoonWolf]`	`10900 <- this was the new UI version right ?`
`17:57.49`	`kergoth`	`that was 1.9, iirc. dunno what 1.9.1 is`
`17:58.19`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i think no ui changes were made in 1.9.1 so it should be.`
`17:58.27`	`Tain`	`It's still 10900`
`17:58.31`	`[MoonWolf]`	`good.`
`17:58.46`	`kergoth`	`ah, cool`
`17:59.46`	`Tem`	`the ui version never changes in minor bugfix versions`
`18:00.15`	`kergoth`	`man, this dream i had last night`
`18:00.18`	`kergoth`	`crazy fucked up`
`18:00.26`	`kergoth`	`combined movies i've seen lately`
`18:00.33`	`kergoth`	`Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle`
`18:00.34`	`kergoth`	`The Interpreter`
`18:00.39`	`kergoth`	`and a little Sin City thrown in for good measure`
`18:01.54`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lol`
`18:02.00`	`[MoonWolf]`	`that sounds like one weird dream`
`18:02.23`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Done updating`
`18:02.23`	`[MoonWolf]`	`everything has the right toc.`
`18:02.42`	`Tain`	`I just watched Sin City again last week. Such an awesome movie.`
`18:06.46`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Kergoth, got anything that is not a man page that can teach me how to use command line svn ?`
`18:09.25`	`[MoonWolf]`	`nevermind`
`18:10.20`	`kergoth`	`the online svn book perhaps? :)`
`18:10.33`	`kergoth`	`meh, damnit laundry, clean faster`
`18:10.35`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yeah found it.`
`18:10.40`	`[MoonWolf]`	`one question`
`18:10.57`	`[MoonWolf]`	`what is the url to the ace SVN ?`
`18:11.06`	`kergoth`	`https://opensvn.csie.org/Ace`
`18:11.10`	`[MoonWolf]`	`thank you.`
`18:11.13`	`kergoth`	`np`
`18:12.03`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Exporting to my hd now.`
`18:13.02`	`kergoth`	`export? not checkout?`
`18:13.15`	`kergoth`	`export removes svn metadata. cant update. only useful for doing releases`
`18:13.42`	`[MoonWolf]`	`ah i see`
`18:14.04`	`kergoth`	`by svn metadata, of course, i mean the .svn directories and such.`
`18:14.19`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i understand.`
`18:22.28`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Oh great i tried to import Mendeleev and it threw VI at me.`
`18:29.02`	`CIA-19`	`03moonwolf * r564 10Slash/Slash.toc:`
`18:29.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`sorry, i don't understand anything about vi...`
`18:29.37`	`[MoonWolf]`	`ill put in a file next time.`
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`18:35.39`	`FryGuy`	`vi is scary if you don't know how to use it :p`
`18:35.47`	`FryGuy`	`you can change the default editor in your bash options though`
`18:36.11`	`[MoonWolf]`	`good`
`18:36.46`	`[MoonWolf]`	`there it is inporting Mendeleev now.`
`18:36.56`	`FryGuy`	do a `set \| grep vi`
`18:36.58`	`CIA-19`	`03moonwolf * r565 10/trunk/ (7 files): Importing Mendeleev`
`18:36.58`	`FryGuy`	`should find it :p`
`18:37.17`	`[MoonWolf]`	`at the wrong dir though`
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`18:41.10`	`CIA-19`	`03moonwolf * r566 10/trunk/ (6 files): Stupid import mistake, fixing`
`18:42.33`	`[MoonWolf]`	`New attempt`
`18:42.56`	`CIA-19`	`03moonwolf * r567 10Mendeleev/ (8 files): Mendeleev: Importing`
`18:43.23`	`[MoonWolf]`	`that is better`
`18:47.04`	`Tain`	`"Researcher says seven percent of Americans drink on the job"`
`18:47.39`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I say researcher is way oof`
`18:47.42`	`[MoonWolf]`	`try 10%`
`18:49.12`	`Tem`	`oh yeah, and for the record, I HATE visor's terminology`
`18:49.15`	`Tem`	`"relative parent"`
`18:49.19`	`Tem`	`that's not real`
`18:49.31`	`Tem`	`it doesn't even make any sense`
`18:49.34`	`[MoonWolf]`	`ask tain to change it then`
`18:49.39`	`Tem`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:49.54`	`Tem`	`it's too far into development to do that`
`18:53.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`hmm`
`18:53.20`	`[MoonWolf]`	`konsole is ugly`
`18:53.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i need a good terminal window thingy`
`18:53.50`	`kergoth`	`[MoonWolf]: export EDITOR=whatevereditoryouwanttouseforsvnstuffs`
`18:53.52`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`18:53.58`	`kergoth`	`nano is an easy to use editor for console`
`18:53.58`	`kergoth`	`try that`
`18:54.03`	`kergoth`	`easier than emacs or vim`
`18:54.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`got it set to do joe already`
`18:54.52`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and i figured out enough stuff to edit basicly in vim`
`18:55.09`	`[MoonWolf]`	`ctrl-i to put in some text esc, :w :q`
`18:55.49`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Tem, what's the word on ItemCompare?`
`18:56.12`	`Tem`	`it's... um...`
`18:56.13`	`Tain`	`Ehn I dont' feel like touching Visor. Maybe next week I'll get the ambition back.`
`18:56.17`	`Tem`	`stable`
`18:56.28`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Stable, or consistient? ;)`
`18:56.49`	`Tem`	`well I noticed an inconsistency yesterday`
`18:56.56`	`Tem`	`but I can't figure out how it happened`
`18:57.16`	`Tem`	`so for now I'm blaming empty tooltips`
`18:57.18`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Is it only available via SVN/Trac?`
`18:57.21`	`Tem`	`yeah`
`18:58.20`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Hmmm... OK.`
`18:59.33`	`Tem`	`yes I know I've been saying I'd release it since like september`
`19:00.10`	`Tem`	`but right now I'm trying to make a simulation for WoW's widget methods`
`19:00.18`	`[MoonWolf]`	`in lua ?`
`19:00.21`	`Tem`	`in lua`
`19:00.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`cool`
`19:00.35`	`Tem`	`so I can start toying with ideas for AceGUI2`
`19:02.35`	`kergoth`	`step one might be to pull down the wowwiki page that lists the widgets and their methods, then write a script to read that info out of it and populate the stubs for them all. then you could just go in and add the actual code to simulate the methods if necessary`
`19:02.43`	`kergoth`	`at lesat, thats probably the approach i'd take, cause i'm lazy`
`19:04.07`	`Tain`	`A company is starting to supply gas stations with Windows CE powered gas pumps.`
`19:04.15`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I would really like to see a system of stubs and other setups that would allow me to test code on a basic level outside of wow.`
`19:06.22`	`Tain`	`Oh MS released Monad beta 3 if anyone is interested. The next generation MS shell.`
`19:06.29`	`[MoonWolf]`	`monad beta 3`
`19:06.38`	`[MoonWolf]`	`if i was still using windows i would hapely test taht.`
`19:06.47`	`[MoonWolf]`	`because monad is pretty good`
`19:07.05`	`[MoonWolf]`	`although it is easy to make a pretty good windows shell if cmd is the only alternative.`
`19:09.43`	`Tain`	`Yeah, it does have some nice features (for a Windows shell)`
`19:17.20`	`thalin`	`bash >>> monad`
`19:17.40`	`thalin`	`vi >>> notepad`
`19:18.17`	`thalin`	`sed/awk >>> all`
`19:18.29`	`Tain`	`er ok`
`19:18.54`	`[MoonWolf]`	`thalin how much do you know about monad ?`
`19:19.13`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and i say that notepad completly own vi in making a few simply edits to a file and saving it.`
`19:19.34`	`Tain`	`bash is to monad as oranges is to pineapple`
`19:19.42`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yeah`
`19:20.13`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I would like to see something similar to monad be made for linux to be honest`
`19:20.21`	`[MoonWolf]`	`it has some very good idea's and concepts`
`19:20.47`	`[MoonWolf]`	`monad btw eliminates the use of sed/awk`
`19:21.03`	`Tain`	`I wouldn't go that far, only because to me the best thing about Monad is it's direct access to .NET assemblies.`
`19:21.09`	`Tain`	`That wouldn't help in Linux.`
`19:21.41`	`[MoonWolf]`	`tain, but but, there was a .net system for linux..i forgot the name.`
`19:22.07`	`Tain`	`There's Mono and DotGNU`
`19:22.14`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yeah`
`19:22.27`	`[MoonWolf]`	`im sure something similar could be made with either.`
`19:22.41`	`[MoonWolf]`	`no that is a lie`
`19:22.47`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i hope something similar could be made`
`19:22.54`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i know nothing about them really.`
`19:22.58`	`Tain`	`I mean it might be more useful than I'm thinking. I think I'd have to look at it more.`
`19:23.33`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and the new Windows version better have a good konsole window.`
`19:23.40`	`[MoonWolf]`	`the current one sucks monkey ass.`
`19:23.48`	`[MoonWolf]`	`console*`
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`20:11.06`	`pagefault`	`grep mount fsck`
`20:42.40`	`Tain`	`So want to make sure I have my logic right here.`
`20:42.47`	`Tain`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:43.03`	`Tain`	`Should return the value of x-40 if it's greater than 0, otherwise return 0 ?`
`20:45.29`	`Tem`	`not quite`
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`20:46.18`	`Tain`	`:/`
`20:46.29`	`Tem`	`just a sec`
`20:47.18`	`Tem`	`x and ((x-40) > 0) and (x-40) or 0`
`20:50.10`	`Tain`	`Ok this is what I was going from. One of the tutorials at lua-users.org says`
`20:50.14`	`Tain`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:50.17`	`Tain`	`Will print 1`
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`21:07.39`	`Tem`	`and my answer is basically the same as that one tain`
`21:07.52`	`Tem`	`condition and iftrue or false`
`21:08.10`	`Tem`	`but I added a check to make sure x isn't nil first`
`21:08.38`	`Tem`	`x and (x-40) > 0 and (x-40) or 0`
`21:11.37`	`Tem`	`x == nil -> 0`
`21:11.51`	`Tem`	`x > 40 --> x-40`
`21:12.08`	`Tem`	`x <=40 -> 0`
`21:12.14`	`Tem`	`so really you could write it as`
`21:12.36`	`Tem`	`x and x > 40 and (x - 40) or 0`
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`21:52.01`	`Tain`	`Oh I see what you're saying Tem, I was going to even add "assuming x isn't nil" but after I saw your response for some reason it didn't look like that to me.`
`21:52.49`	`Tem`	`Is this for Visor?`
`21:53.05`	`Tain`	`No, I don't feel like dealing with Visor right now.`
`21:54.55`	id`	`i know the feeling Tain`
`21:58.01`	`Tain`	`I can do: text or "" to set an empty string if text is nil right?`
`21:58.25`	id`	`yes`
`21:58.31`	id`	`and/or/not rule`
`21:58.40`	id`	`removes alot of silly if's`
`22:00.55`	`Tain`	`Yeah`
`22:03.48`	`Tem`	`Tain: yes (text or "") works`
`22:03.54`	`Tem`	`I use it all the time`
`22:04.19`	id`	`in lua does using ' or " matter?`
`22:04.48`	id`	`in languages like php and perl where $ is used for variables, a variable in " will be interpreted but not in '`
`22:04.49`	`Tem`	`not really`
`22:05.00`	id`	`so using ' is generally faster if you arent doing something`
`22:05.01`	id`	`ok`
`22:05.03`	id`	`thought so`
`22:05.16`	`Tem`	`it's purely preference in lua`
`22:05.19`	`Tem`	`however`
`22:05.27`	`Tem`	`using ' means you don't need to escape "`
`22:05.31`	`Tem`	`and visa versa`
`22:05.44`	id`	`yeah`
`22:06.03`	id`	`i prefer using ' in webdevelopement because HTML uses "`
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`22:12.01`	`Tekkub`	`rawr`
`22:12.43`	`Tain`	`Yeah I didn't even know until two days ago that you could use ' inside of " (or vice versa) and not have to escape them.`
`22:12.53`	id`	`hai tek`
`22:13.21`	id`	`i love my editor for showing escaped characters inside strings in a different color`
`22:13.34`	id`	`but i will never name it again here :\|`
`22:15.21`	`Tem`	`why?`
`22:16.46`	`Tekkub`	`the emacsers ream you?`
`22:18.13`	id`	`no last time i did i got too excited and left being angry at myself for trying to make other people use what i like`
`22:18.21`	id`	`and i dont want that`
`22:19.05`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`22:19.15`	`Tem`	`oh you are one of those funny vim people aren't you?`
`22:19.19`	id`	`yes`
`22:19.33`	`Tem`	`I'm glad it works for someone`
`22:19.36`	id`	`no really Tekkub i got a problem with that i dont need to do that anymore :(`
`22:20.25`	id`	`Tem, its a journey, once you see the beauty of it (wich ofcource you dont at start) you will see it hasa high WOW! factor`
`22:21.10`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`22:21.39`	id`	`I've had too many "omg when i type it doesnt work and it screws up my document"'s`
`22:21.50`	id`	`It's modal heh :P`
`22:22.06`	id`	`keys are objects in "normal" mode`
`22:22.09`	id`	`they do stuff`
`22:22.19`	`kergoth`	`vi and vim won me over with their efficiency.`
`22:22.22`	id`	`stuff designed to make you do your work faster if you understand it`
`22:22.29`	`kergoth`	`small number of keystrokes to accomplish anything, etc`
`22:22.31`	`kergoth`	`yeah`
`22:22.33`	id`	`yes`
`22:22.35`	id`	`:p`
`22:22.52`	`kergoth`	`i leave here tomorrow morning`
`22:22.58`	`Tem`	`for AZ?`
`22:23.00`	`kergoth`	`wont be back online for weeks probably`
`22:23.00`	`kergoth`	`yep`
`22:23.05`	`kergoth`	`18 hour drive is the first leg`
`22:23.08`	`kergoth`	`then a day with my relatives in colorado`
`22:23.13`	`kergoth`	`then the 12 hour second leg`
`22:23.16`	`kergoth`	`fun fun`
`22:23.28`	`Tem`	`that /sucks/`
`22:23.35`	id`	`lol :P`
`22:24.16`	`kergoth`	`i'm gonna be bored out of my mind`
`22:24.22`	`kergoth`	`i should burn some tunes`
`22:24.27`	id`	`but what are you going to do then?`
`22:24.32`	id`	`take your PC!`
`22:24.33`	id`	`lol`
`22:24.34`	id`	`;P`
`22:24.40`	id`	`(with you)`
`22:24.41`	`kergoth`	`oh my workstation is coming with. fileserver isnt`
`22:24.46`	id`	`ah k`
`22:24.50`	`kergoth`	`but i wont have net access for a while after i get there`
`22:24.53`	id`	`:<`
`22:25.13`	id`	`where there?`
`22:25.18`	id`	`wutcha gunna do then? :O`
`22:25.24`	`Tekkub`	`where in CO Kergo?`
`22:25.33`	`kergoth`	`relatives in colorado springs and in pueblo`
`22:25.40`	`Tekkub`	`shudder`
`22:25.44`	`Tekkub`	`I'm sorry`
`22:25.48`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`22:26.10`	`Tekkub`	`<--- Born and raised in Idaho Springs`
`22:26.36`	`Tekkub`	`you know all that mine explosion biz? Was over at the inlaws watching CNN...`
`22:26.53`	`Tekkub`	`they had a reporter at tho CO School of Mine Experimental Mine...`
`22:27.10`	`Tekkub`	`the mine's in my town :) ANd I went to CSM for 3 years`
`22:27.16`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`22:28.40`	`Tem`	`"Mine Experimental Mine"?`
`22:28.44`	`Tem`	`"CSM" ?`
`22:29.06`	`*** join/##ace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-59-51-225.twcny.res.rr.com)`
`22:29.36`	`Tem`	`cladhaire: you ninja'ed a post this morning`
`22:30.56`	`cladhaire`	`??`
`22:31.00`	`cladhaire`	`yeah i did`
`22:31.12`	`cladhaire`	`i didn't want to deal with being wrong, if i was`
`22:31.20`	`Tem`	`you were right`
`22:31.39`	`Tem`	`and by the time I posted agreeing with you, your post was gone`
`22:31.44`	`cladhaire`	`i suspected.. but my post really didn't add much to the discussion =)`
`22:32.00`	`cladhaire`	`lol thanks tho :P`
`22:32.06`	`Tem`	`well that Atrius guy is diluting the discussion way more`
`22:32.19`	`cladhaire`	`bah`
`22:33.17`	id`	`sounds like i need to take a visit at wowace forums`
`22:33.18`	id`	`:p`
`22:34.22`	`cladhaire`	`he posted and fixed it`
`22:34.27`	`cladhaire`	`cause Seven pwned him`
`22:34.41`	`cladhaire`	`someone is saying WatchDog stopped working.. and its checked, and outofdate is loading.. and he's reinstalled.`
`22:34.42`	`cladhaire`	`but no watchdog.`
`22:35.31`	`cladhaire`	`i'm havign him send me his framexml log.`
`22:35.34`	`cladhaire`	`to verify`
`22:35.37`	`Tem`	`oh and for any LSU or Texas fans that might be hanging out here: http://www.onepeat.com/`
`22:36.09`	`cladhaire`	`hahaha`
`22:37.20`	`cladhaire`	`so when is warping gonna be fixed?`
`22:38.01`	`cladhaire`	`my druid and rogue appreciate it.. but my priest doesn't like it`
`22:41.08`	`Tekkub`	`you don't like it?`
`22:41.26`	`Tekkub`	`I love to see someone come round a corner and merrily skip past me`
`22:41.29`	`Tekkub`	`it's sooooo gay`
`22:44.10`	`CIA-19`	`03tekkub * r568 10SpecialEvents/SpecialEvents.toc: SpecialEvents - Removed incomplete modules from the TOC, for the time being.`
`22:59.24`	`Tekkub`	`rawr`
`23:03.26`	id`	`yay thx`
`23:03.32`	id`	`:P`
`23:05.58`	`Tekkub`	`hey tem`
`23:06.11`	`Tekkub`	`what did slou say to me RegisterForSave post?`
`23:06.17`	`Tekkub`	`before he edited`
`23:06.57`	`Tem`	`one sec`
`23:06.58`	id`	`svn is slowwwww`
`23:06.59`	id`	`:\|`
`23:07.02`	`Tekkub`	`Oh I need to roll an alt and get in <LoadOnDemand> too`
`23:07.07`	`Tem`	`I've gotta find it`
`23:07.23`	id`	`takes tortoiseSVN about 2 minutes to work`
`23:07.25`	id`	`:\|`
`23:07.32`	id`	`when updating`
`23:08.12`	`Tem`	`oh wtf, my chat logs aren't working`
`23:08.54`	`Tekkub`	`oh noes!`
`23:09.42`	id`	`gunna look at titanGMT now`
`23:11.30`	`Tem`	`brb`
`23:11.55`	`Tekkub`	`you'll like it indie, it's just a handful of lines of code`
`23:12.05`	`Tekkub`	`put Titan's clock to shame!`
`23:12.46`	id`	`ya ya ya ya`
`23:12.48`	id`	`i have rank 1`
`23:12.49`	id`	`woo woo`
`23:12.52`	id`	`i own`
`23:12.54`	id`	`^^`
`23:13.02`	id`	`im such a nub at wow and i love it`
`23:13.07`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`23:13.16`	`*** join/##ace Tem (n=matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)`
`23:17.28`	`Tem`	`http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=011120061107097rt.png`
`23:17.35`	id`	`Tekkub, why does your time addon for titan have two times?`
`23:31.28`	`Tem`	`Tekkub: that link I just posted is a SS of what slouken said`
`23:33.23`	id`	`"lol i lvl 10 w group yes invite lol we losa haha "`
`23:33.31`	id`	`fecken noobs :(`
`23:33.44`	id`	`(in WSG)`
`23:36.48`	`*** join/##ace Tem (n=matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)`
`23:39.30`	`Tekkub`	`id, because it shows local and server time`
`23:39.46`	`Tem`	`Tekkub: did you see the SS I posted?`
`23:39.49`	`Tekkub`	`hehe`
`23:39.54`	`Tekkub`	`yea just opened it`
`23:40.15`	`Tekkub`	`he prolly realized it shouldn't say "spank" around me`
`23:40.21`	`Tem`	`><`
`23:40.37`	`Tekkub`	`he doesn't like me cause I want to molester his beard`
`23:40.58`	`Tekkub`	`and ItemRack kicks ass`
`23:41.20`	`Tekkub`	`I set up an event to swap out my INT wepon after I've used the mana it grants`
`23:41.27`	`Tekkub`	`for an AGI weapon :)`
`23:42.54`	`Tekkub`	`got the INT one cheap too, seems noone buys 2H swords with INT on em :)`
`23:46.06`	ag``	`Does anyone know what event fires when a druid shapeshifts?`
`23:46.23`	`Tekkub`	`Aura`
`23:47.16`	ag``	`so if I want the healthbar to update from mana to energy or the other way around, I should use the aura update event?`
`23:47.38`	`Tekkub`	`use player aura yes`
`23:48.04`	`Tekkub`	`actually I think another even fires when the mana type changes`
`23:48.29`	ag``	`I have unit_focus, unit_rage, unit_energy, unit_mana registered`
`23:48.49`	ag``	`but I still have some people reporting that the bar doesn't change when they shapeshift`
`23:49.36`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:49.37`	`Tekkub`	`Fired when the unit's mana stype is changed.`
`23:50.44`	ag``	`seems like it, thanks`
`23:54.55`	`Tekkub`	`quick someone add this to the Saien quotes`
`23:54.56`	`Tekkub`	`You don't need the why, Warcraft is not a democratic process.`
`23:57.21`	ag``	`What is the Saien quotes?`
`23:57.58`	`Tem`	`~emulate saien`
`23:58.00`	`purl`	`I could have helped you, but I won't.`
`23:58.19`	ag``	`~emulate saien`
`23:58.20`	`purl`	`This is a stunningly stupid question to direct at me.`
`23:58.42`	`Tem`	`~emulate saien`
`23:58.43`	`purl`	`I could have helped you, but I won't.`
`23:59.07`	ag``	`Yeah I get the idea`
`23:59.16`	`Tem`	`~emulate saien`
`23:59.18`	`purl`	`Slash commands are ameturish.`
`23:59.32`	`Tem`	`btw, these are all exact quotes from him`

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