| 00:04.55 | Tem|BackupTime | Ok let the formatting begin... |
| 00:05.05 | MoonWolf | bye bye tem |
| 00:05.19 | kergoth | good luck, hopefully you got everything |
| 00:05.49 | Tem|BackupTime | yeah, I figure if I couldn't think of it after this much time, it must not be that important |
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| 00:06.50 | Tem|BackupTime | lol I remembered something just now |
| 00:06.56 | MoonWolf | haha |
| 00:07.05 | Tem|BackupTime | all my wow screenshos |
| 00:07.10 | Tem|BackupTime | screenshots* |
| 00:07.22 | MoonWolf | usefull |
| 00:08.40 | Tem|BackupTime | hmm and there is the program I use to manage them... |
| 00:08.44 | Tem|BackupTime | I'm sure I can find that again |
| 00:10.44 | Tem|BackupTime | yep... already found it and emailed a link |
| 00:10.47 | Tem|BackupTime | OK |
| 00:10.52 | Tem|BackupTime | I'm really going to do it this time... |
| 00:11.02 | Tem|BackupTime | bye |
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| 00:20.26 | Tem | I <3 having an extra computer next to me |
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| 00:25.50 | Tem | it's not so bad |
| 00:25.56 | Tem | school that is |
| 00:27.47 | Tem | so gaim released gaim 2.0 beta |
| 00:28.09 | kergoth | i hear it sucks pretty badly. ugly as hell status window or something |
| 00:28.32 | Tem | It's a good idea |
| 00:28.39 | Tem | but I'm not sure I like it yet |
| 00:29.19 | Tem | I've hidden the status of the individual accounts |
| 00:29.47 | Tem | so that's not a big deal |
| 00:30.01 | Tem | I like the idea of the status stuff, but I don't know if I'll ever use it |
| 00:30.55 | Tem | I'm gonna go take a shower while I wait for my windows install |
| 00:31.24 | Tem | that's what I get for being too lazy to make an image of my computer last time... |
| 00:51.31 | Tem | hey Cairenn |
| 00:51.34 | Tem | had fun shopping? |
| 00:51.38 | kergoth | hey cair |
| 00:51.46 | Cairenn | hey :) |
| 00:51.50 | Cairenn | meh |
| 00:51.55 | Cairenn | it's shopping :p |
| 00:52.01 | Cairenn | shopping is never fun |
| 00:52.30 | Cairenn | yes, you heard it here first folks, a woman that doesn't like shopping |
| 00:52.40 | kergoth | actually, my gf doesnt like shopping either |
| 00:52.42 | kergoth | just quite rare :) |
| 00:53.10 | Cairenn | yeah, but you're male Tem, you're supposed to hate shopping |
| 00:53.16 | Cairenn | oh, but Tem! |
| 00:53.38 | Cairenn | tell me you are proud of me ... I remembered! and did! |
| 00:56.27 | Tem | yay! |
| 00:56.30 | Cairenn | and I'm even eating real food tonight! |
| 00:56.36 | Tem | hmm |
| 00:56.39 | Tem | real food? |
| 00:56.41 | Tem | What's that? |
| 00:58.04 | Cairenn | in my case, today, it's a double-meat roastbeef sub sandwich |
| 00:58.11 | Tem | oo |
| 00:58.12 | Tem | sounds good |
| 00:58.38 | Tem | Someone say my name please; I'm testing a setting |
| 00:58.42 | Cairenn | tem |
| 00:58.47 | Tem | ah good |
| 00:58.50 | Tem | thanks |
| 00:58.54 | Tem | Cairenn: |
| 00:58.57 | Tem | whoops |
| 00:59.00 | Cairenn | welcome :) |
| 00:59.01 | Cairenn | tem |
| 00:59.06 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 00:59.41 | Tem | Cairenn: they released gaim 2.0 beta recently. One of the new features is playing a sound when someone says your name in chat |
| 00:59.56 | Tem | another feature is getting rid of some of the horrible colors |
| 00:59.59 | Cairenn | *nod* I've had that setting for a while |
| 01:05.37 | Tem | I can't seem to find the thing that colors people's names in chat |
| 01:06.08 | Cairenn | guifications |
| 01:06.11 | Tem | Oh? |
| 01:06.23 | Cairenn | isn't it? |
| 01:06.40 | Tem | I was under the impression that guifications was for the notification boxes |
| 01:06.50 | Cairenn | you're right |
| 01:06.52 | Cairenn | :p |
| 01:07.44 | Cairenn | tem ... preferences - conversations |
| 01:08.07 | Tem | it's all different in 2.0 |
| 01:08.15 | Tem | I don't think it's an option anymore |
| 01:08.25 | Cairenn | hrm, suppose I should update too |
| 01:08.30 | Tem | it just shows your name as bold and blue |
| 01:08.37 | Tem | and everyone else is plain black |
| 01:08.43 | Cairenn | bleh |
| 01:08.54 | Tem | if someone says your name it's bold and that goldish color |
| 01:09.05 | Tem | yeah... I |
| 01:09.16 | Tem | 'm probably going to keep using the current version |
| 01:10.14 | Tem | I wish I didn't hit return so often when I'm trying to hit ' |
| 01:10.34 | Cairenn | I do the same thing |
| 01:10.55 | Tem | and my keyboard is especially big... |
| 01:11.08 | Tem | the keys are slightly farther apart than on a normal keyboard |
| 01:12.01 | Tem | Oh wait. don't you have the same keyboard/mouse combo as me? |
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| 01:33.03 | Tem | curses! |
| 01:33.20 | Tem | I'm drawing a blank as to why my wireless card isn't working again |
| 01:34.07 | [Matryx] | devchat? |
| 01:34.21 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2685 |
| 01:34.38 | [Matryx] | ooo |
| 01:34.50 | [Matryx] | is it the sort of devchat where we can submit requests? |
| 01:35.04 | Cairenn | questions, yes, requests? doubt it |
| 01:35.07 | [Matryx] | ;) |
| 01:35.14 | [Matryx] | hmm - no current questions though |
| 01:35.30 | [Matryx] | er ("target","addonname") |
| 01:35.52 | [Matryx] | I'll look forward to the log being posted on warcry |
| 01:35.55 | [Matryx] | till then, I have to sleep :) |
| 01:36.00 | [Matryx] | enjoy the chat everyone |
| 01:36.29 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=282383&p=1&tmp=1#post282383 |
| 01:36.51 | Cairenn | seems equally interesting, from a "wtf are you thinking" point of view |
| 01:37.36 | [Matryx] | why hasn't the link to the interview been removed? |
| 01:37.55 | Cairenn | I've *no* idea |
| 01:38.26 | Cairenn | think it's time for a little note to my favorite Blizz birdy |
| 01:38.33 | [Matryx] | =) |
| 01:38.38 | [Matryx] | do your thang Cairenn :) |
| 01:39.10 | Tekkub | I need a better RSS reader... |
| 01:39.29 | Tekkub | something I can filter out stuff I don't want and highlight stuff I might like... |
| 01:39.48 | Tekkub | I'm sick of all these King Kong torrents popping up... I don't care! |
| 01:46.50 | Tain | You're a mean one, mister grinch |
| 01:46.51 | Tem | AGHADLGASDHF! |
| 01:47.03 | Tem | What the hell is wrong with me! |
| 01:47.18 | Tem | I can't figure out why my wireless card isn't working |
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| 01:50.59 | Tekkub | poor Temmy |
| 01:51.15 | Tekkub | I need to get my computers on wireless |
| 01:51.25 | Tekkub | behind my desk is scarey |
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| 01:52.12 | Tekkub | I need some cable conduits attached to my desk... |
| 02:08.44 | kergoth | bleh |
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| 02:52.02 | kergoth | hehe, i love this book. |
| 02:52.10 | kergoth | "There are four simple ways for the observant to tell Mr. Croup and Mr. Vandemar apart: first, Mr. Vandemar is two and a half heads taller than Mr. Croup; second, Mr. Croup has eyes of a faded china blue, while Mr. Vandemar's eyes are brown; third, while Mr. Vandemar fashioned the rings he wears on his right hand out of the skulls of four ravens, Mr. Croup has no obvious jewelry; fourth, Mr. Croup likes words, while Mr. Vandemar is al |
| 02:52.10 | kergoth | ways hungry. Also, they look nothing at all alike." |
| 03:08.21 | Parak | hmm, anyone happen to have CMS + Wiki integration experience? |
| 03:09.16 | Cladhaire | now CMS + wiwki.. CMS + everything else, yes =) |
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| 03:20.13 | Parak | I've been eyeing tikiwiki |
| 03:20.23 | Parak | seems like the best of both worlds |
| 03:24.13 | Parak | Might as well install it and see how it works |
| 03:24.43 | Cladhaire | :P |
| 03:24.47 | Cladhaire | depends what youre loking for |
| 03:31.36 | Parak | A CMS and a Wiki? :P |
| 03:35.35 | Cladhaire | hahah |
| 03:35.38 | Cladhaire | for what purpose. |
| 03:36.00 | Cladhaire | IT rules #323: Don't tell me what to implement, what you think you want. Tell me what you need, what youre requirements are =) |
| 03:36.42 | Tain | Yeah no kidding. Ug! |
| 03:37.52 | Parak | hehe |
| 03:38.02 | Parak | too bad it never works like that clad |
| 03:38.54 | Cladhaire | No, but that's why I'm asking you |
| 03:38.56 | Parak | Manager sez we need this, and you're supposed to put this in yesterday. Yes, on the whole intranet. Yes, we really do need it. OF COURSE it will be compatible. |
| 03:38.57 | Cladhaire | what do you need, honestly? |
| 03:39.16 | Cladhaire | Drupal has built in wikify syntax, but its probably not what you're looking for |
| 03:39.18 | Cladhaire | gimme a sec |
| 03:40.46 | Cladhaire | Mediawiki standalone is really the only wiki solution |
| 03:40.50 | Cladhaire | and the only reasonable one. |
| 03:41.04 | Cladhaire | The CMS can be whatever you'd like it to be.. the challenge is then theming the system properly. |
| 03:41.27 | Cladhaire | If you don't need wiki specifically.. you could use a drupal/mambo like solution with access levels and anyone could edit the pages/articles if you give the permission. |
| 03:49.54 | Parak | Well, I'm planning to make a guild website |
| 03:50.22 | Parak | What I really want is to have one login for the website and the wiki |
| 03:50.30 | Parak | And the forums. |
| 03:53.38 | Cladhaire | Phpbb doesn't intergrate well with anything, but its shit software, so I don't care about it. |
| 03:53.57 | Cladhaire | My main question is Why Wiki.. whats the draw.. what do you actually need from it.. or does it HAVE To be wiki? |
| 04:06.46 | Parak | Needs to be some open wiki-ish system in any rate, with securities on pages/categories, user editable, for things like, say,...strategies, character playing advice, etc |
| 04:07.49 | Cladhaire | Use a CMS.. they can be edited and set up that. |
| 04:07.53 | Cladhaire | Wiki's can't, actually |
| 04:07.58 | Cladhaire | no security exists in wiki systems |
| 04:08.00 | Cladhaire | =) |
| 04:09.22 | Parak | Oh? |
| 04:09.55 | Parak | I browsed through Tiki a bit, and it seems like that it can |
| 04:10.45 | Cladhaire | TIki may be able to |
| 04:10.56 | Cladhaire | but mediawiki, which runs most wiki's really doesn't have too much security built it.. its cumbersome |
| 04:11.03 | Cladhaire | I was just making a suggestnois, since you need a website anyway |
| 04:14.28 | Parak | Nod nod :D |
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| 05:40.14 | kergoth | http://lua-users.org/wiki/SituationScheduler .. that is really cool :) rudamentary scheduler using coroutines |
| 06:01.26 | kergoth | ooooh, http://www.yzis.org/ is like vim, but is scriptable with lua instead of an oddball custom language |
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| 06:23.45 | Te1 | yay for successful formats |
| 06:31.46 | kergoth | yay indeed |
| 06:32.05 | kergoth | http://www.yzis.org/ <-look, its like vim, but with lua scripting instead of an oddball custom language :D |
| 06:33.09 | GenNMX | Vim can be extended in different scripting languages, like Perl |
| 06:33.56 | kergoth | yes, i know. perl. blech. |
| 06:34.07 | kergoth | the vim codebase is unpleasant at best |
| 06:34.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:34.30 | GenNMX | Fine, then use vi ;) |
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| 06:43.38 | kergoth | GenNMX: heh, check out http://www.yzis.org/devel/history |
| 06:47.06 | kergoth | hmmm |
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| 07:19.59 | kergoth | Tem: http://ace.pastebin.com/471388 |
| 07:20.35 | Tem | :) |
| 07:20.40 | Tem | that's not built into 1.8? |
| 07:20.45 | Tem | 5.1* |
| 07:20.59 | kergoth | not in the version i have. kinda surprising |
| 07:21.55 | Tem | very surprizing |
| 07:25.09 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 07:25.12 | kergoth | look at the current entry on http://thedailywtf.com/ |
| 07:25.34 | Tem | oh yeah, I saw that one this morning |
| 07:25.42 | Tem | pretty funny |
| 07:25.48 | kergoth | and sad. very sad. |
| 07:26.16 | Tem | but he made a slight typo, I think |
| 07:26.32 | Tem | "If you're not well-versed in C++..." |
| 07:26.38 | Tem | That code is C |
| 07:26.45 | kergoth | indeed |
| 07:26.52 | Tem | er |
| 07:26.54 | Tem | maybe not |
| 07:27.02 | Tem | was // added with C++? |
| 07:27.30 | kergoth | its c++ style, but afaik its supported by C compilers as well. dunno when that was added |
| 07:27.30 | Tem | anyway, it doesn't use any c++ stuff |
| 07:27.42 | kergoth | the various langauge standards boggle my mind |
| 07:27.52 | Tem | FILE* instead of fstream |
| 07:29.46 | Tem | I never did like printf |
| 07:30.53 | Tem | Crap! |
| 07:31.09 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.14 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.49 | Tem | alright, enough for one night |
| 07:37.53 | Tem | later everyone |
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| 08:12.53 | id` | wazaaaa |
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| 09:09.56 | MatryxWrk | good to read the devchat |
| 09:10.56 | Cairenn|sleep | most of it was ... meh, whatever |
| 09:11.17 | Cairenn|sleep | but there were definitely some funny quotes out of it ;) |
| 09:11.19 | Tekkub | there is something oh so satisfying about /blow-ing the mistletoe guy |
| 09:11.51 | Tekkub | and I applaud Blizzy for making work for my people :) |
| 09:12.05 | Tekkub | SquareEnix refused to admit we existed |
| 09:12.16 | Tekkub | even tho galka were all gay ^^ |
| 09:15.38 | MatryxWrk | no I should say "good to see so many of them turned up" |
| 09:15.45 | MatryxWrk | even though the questions were not all that inspired |
| 09:15.53 | MatryxWrk | "fix our class" "learn 2 play" ;) |
| 09:16.06 | MoonWolf | ... |
| 09:16.11 | voiceme_need_nic | for #freenode |
| 09:16.12 | voiceme_need_nic | ;P |
| 09:16.45 | Cairenn|sleep | MatryxWrk: ;) |
| 09:16.54 | voiceme_need_nic | heyyy Cairenn|sleep ! |
| 09:16.55 | voiceme_need_nic | :) |
| 09:16.56 | Cairenn|sleep | See the things I quoted in particular at WoWI |
| 09:17.02 | voiceme_need_nic | (Industrial) |
| 09:17.03 | Cairenn|sleep | hey indu :) |
| 09:17.05 | Cairenn|sleep | I know |
| 09:17.18 | voiceme_need_nic | uh, i forgot the wowi channel >.< |
| 09:17.29 | MoonWolf | i liked the fact that they said they were indeed working on the cross server battlegrounds |
| 09:17.37 | Cairenn|sleep | I just figured you didn't love us any more, indu |
| 09:17.43 | Cairenn|sleep | #wowi-lounge |
| 09:17.44 | voiceme_need_nic | Cairenn|sleep: no wai! =( |
| 09:17.57 | Cairenn|sleep | good! cause I was crying! |
| 09:18.01 | MatryxWrk | excuse me for ranting: but "£%(^&"£("£&^"£^(&( |
| 09:18.05 | Cairenn|sleep | MoonWolf: yeah |
| 09:18.09 | Cairenn|sleep | MatryxWrk: ? |
| 09:18.17 | MatryxWrk | our damned server hosts (who we're going to have to sue) have faked a HDD replacement |
| 09:18.21 | MatryxWrk | and now it's died, again |
| 09:18.34 | MoonWolf | faked it ? |
| 09:18.38 | MatryxWrk | yeah |
| 09:18.40 | MatryxWrk | we ordered one |
| 09:18.45 | MatryxWrk | because the HDD was failing |
| 09:18.46 | Cairenn|sleep | oh son of a ... whoa |
| 09:18.48 | MatryxWrk | and they "replaced it" |
| 09:18.51 | MatryxWrk | without any downtime |
| 09:18.56 | MatryxWrk | so I went "hmmmm" |
| 09:18.58 | MoonWolf | i can do that. |
| 09:19.00 | MatryxWrk | well |
| 09:19.01 | MatryxWrk | yes |
| 09:19.05 | MatryxWrk | a good host can |
| 09:19.08 | Cairenn|sleep | that *is* possible MatryxWrk |
| 09:19.08 | MoonWolf | its called raid and sata |
| 09:19.14 | MatryxWrk | but they've proven themselves less than capable |
| 09:19.20 | MatryxWrk | and we're not on raid/sata with them |
| 09:19.21 | MoonWolf | well in that case. |
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| 09:20.46 | MatryxWrk | basically - I've got a monitoring system set up to check the server every 5 minutes. They said they'd need to power down and physically swap the HDD, and yet the server went down for about 30 seconds (from the uptime logs) - about long enough for a plain reboot |
| 09:21.03 | MatryxWrk | and now the drive has died again |
| 09:21.04 | MatryxWrk | meh |
| 09:21.13 | MatryxWrk | not the sort of thing I need to be dealing with just before xmas |
| 09:21.15 | Cairenn|sleep | bleh |
| 09:21.55 | MoonWolf | MatryxWrk, sue, get better host. |
| 09:22.13 | MatryxWrk | yeah - we will do, we've got a long list of things to get sorted with them |
| 09:22.16 | Cairenn|sleep | get better host first, deal with other shit later |
| 09:22.22 | MatryxWrk | Cairenn|sleep: that's the plan |
| 09:22.32 | MatryxWrk | get server back up - get new hosts - sort the crap |
| 09:22.37 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 09:23.06 | MatryxWrk | we're supposed to be on a managed package, but from what I can tell they've not done anything to the server since it was setup.... including all the stuff the managed package entails (patches / backups / monitoring for downtime) |
| 09:23.07 | Cairenn|sleep | pardon my english, btw |
| 09:23.19 | MatryxWrk | so we're owed about 2 grand in refunds for the extra services at least |
| 09:23.43 | MatryxWrk | anyway, rant over, but don't use Poundhost anyone. |
| 09:23.55 | MatryxWrk | wouldn't have been my choice in the first place but I "inherited" the server when I got the job. |
| 09:25.31 | MatryxWrk | I'm so furious I don't even want a cadbury's finger :/ |
| 09:26.06 | Cairenn|sleep | GAH! |
| 09:28.16 | MatryxWrk | er - my brother just asked if "Blizzard are removing the functionality behind decursive in 1.9" - anyone heard anything about that? or shall I tell him someone's blowing smoke up his tailpipe |
| 09:28.17 | Cairenn|sleep | you know it's bad when you don't even want chocolate ... |
| 09:28.43 | Cairenn|sleep | someone is blowing smoke up his tailpipe |
| 09:28.58 | MatryxWrk | thought so |
| 09:29.21 | MatryxWrk | only way they could in my opinion is if they introduced a cooldown for changing targets |
| 09:29.54 | Cairenn|sleep | they don't *like* decursive (they being the blizz dev team), BUT |
| 09:30.06 | Cairenn|sleep | a) they don't dislike all of it, only parts |
| 09:30.17 | MatryxWrk | heh |
| 09:30.28 | Cairenn|sleep | b) they can't (easily) break it entirely without a lot of other stuff getting crapped too |
| 09:30.56 | MatryxWrk | simple to run through the list of 10 enemies from the scoreboard and curse them |
| 09:31.05 | Cairenn|sleep | c) they already know that Quu is willing to make whatever changes they want, and he's already taken out a lot of the stuff that Blizz doesn't like |
| 09:31.13 | MatryxWrk | run in with mass shadowdamage and spam curses :D |
| 09:32.18 | MatryxWrk | I worked out - at level 29, I can drain about 40 life per tick with Drain Life |
| 09:32.25 | MatryxWrk | that's soooo cool :) |
| 09:32.33 | MatryxWrk | shame I'd die in about 3 hits to a twinked paladin tho |
| 09:32.41 | Cairenn|sleep | heh |
| 09:32.49 | MoonWolf | whats a twinked ... |
| 09:32.54 | MatryxWrk | er |
| 09:33.18 | MatryxWrk | "twinked: the process of funding a lower level character with a high level one to get gear far above the usual available" |
| 09:33.23 | Cairenn|sleep | MoonWolf: serious? not heard the expression ... nm |
| 09:33.32 | MoonWolf | no, first time i heard of it. |
| 09:33.38 | MoonWolf | learn something new every day i guess. |
| 09:33.41 | Cairenn|sleep | well, MatryxWrk just answered :) |
| 09:33.42 | MatryxWrk | my hunter has been accused of being a twink. |
| 09:33.51 | MatryxWrk | but then I point out all his gear is Bind on Equip |
| 09:33.57 | Cairenn|sleep | twinks are also frequently power-leveled, as well as outfitted |
| 09:33.59 | MatryxWrk | e.g. Master Hunter's Rifle at level 29 |
| 09:34.13 | MoonWolf | oh, my lvl 13 warlock is twinked too.... |
| 09:34.13 | MatryxWrk | (the King Bangalesh quest reward) |
| 09:34.29 | MoonWolf | he has an awesome want |
| 09:34.32 | MoonWolf | wand* |
| 09:34.43 | MatryxWrk | can't remember if I told you about that - I kited King B for over 2 hours ;) just to see if I could do it solo |
| 09:34.45 | MatryxWrk | went through 3 zones |
| 09:34.47 | Cairenn|sleep | and frequently many people will call "alts" or "secondaries" twinks, as well |
| 09:34.55 | Cairenn|sleep | WOW |
| 09:34.56 | MatryxWrk | sent out for ammo twice from my brother |
| 09:35.04 | MatryxWrk | all since I discovered the ranged bug |
| 09:35.07 | Cairenn|sleep | and he didn't go back? |
| 09:35.10 | MatryxWrk | ranged weapons cannot be dodged |
| 09:35.17 | MatryxWrk | keep hitting him and he stays aggrod |
| 09:35.22 | MoonWolf | nope, ranged can only be missed. |
| 09:35.25 | MatryxWrk | didn't you read "Gamon's big day out" |
| 09:35.26 | MoonWolf | stupid really. |
| 09:35.34 | Cairenn|sleep | huh |
| 09:35.38 | MatryxWrk | MoonWolf: especially as the dodge tooltip says "ranged" |
| 09:35.50 | MatryxWrk | Cairenn|sleep: it explains how to train something for a long time, amongst other things |
| 09:35.56 | MatryxWrk | someone took Gamon all the way to Silithus |
| 09:36.01 | MoonWolf | yeah, that is known bug that is slightly misleading. according to GM's. |
| 09:36.40 | MatryxWrk | brb - loo |
| 09:39.00 | Cairenn|sleep | ooooops ... someone's about to get their fingers smacked ... they managed to piss off Dolby ... that's like, impossible |
| 09:39.36 | Cairenn|sleep | http://www.eq2interface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=5204 |
| 09:40.34 | MatryxWrk | ah |
| 09:40.35 | MatryxWrk | here we are |
| 09:40.36 | MatryxWrk | http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general-en&T=682536 |
| 09:41.41 | Cairenn|sleep | lol, cute |
| 09:47.56 | MoonWolf | well, we managed to piss you off Cairenn|sleep so nothing is inpossible. |
| 09:48.13 | Cairenn|sleep | actually, that's where you are wrong |
| 09:48.17 | Cairenn|sleep | I wasn't pissed off |
| 09:48.23 | Cairenn|sleep | I was disappointed |
| 09:49.02 | MoonWolf | okay. |
| 09:50.13 | MatryxWrk | OH MY GOD |
| 09:50.16 | Cairenn|sleep | I get over being pissed off a lot easier than I get over having someone disappoint me |
| 09:50.19 | MatryxWrk | Cairenn|sleep |
| 09:50.21 | MatryxWrk | get this |
| 09:50.24 | MatryxWrk | I just telephoned |
| 09:50.29 | Cairenn|sleep | oh no ... |
| 09:50.29 | MatryxWrk | because they hadn't actioned the support ticket |
| 09:50.35 | Cairenn|sleep | oh no oh no |
| 09:50.43 | MatryxWrk | "We're waiting for someone to finish using the monitor and keyboard" |
| 09:50.46 | MoonWolf | this is where it gets good, keep going MatryxWrk |
| 09:50.50 | MatryxWrk | what...the.... "£(&"£^("£&^"£&^" |
| 09:50.52 | MoonWolf | .... |
| 09:50.58 | Cairenn|sleep | say WHAT? |
| 09:50.59 | Cairenn|sleep | ROFL |
| 09:51.06 | MoonWolf | okay, that I never would expect. |
| 09:51.08 | Cairenn|sleep | okay, sorry, umm, shouldn't laugh, but WHAT> |
| 09:51.10 | Cairenn|sleep | ? |
| 09:51.12 | Cairenn|sleep | hahahahhaha |
| 09:51.14 | MatryxWrk | ?!?!?!??! |
| 09:51.23 | MatryxWrk | you have *ONE* monitor and keyboard? |
| 09:51.24 | MatryxWrk | what? |
| 09:51.56 | Cairenn|sleep | that's just SO SO pathetically sad ... |
| 09:52.13 | MoonWolf | people, REMOTE LOGINS of any kind VNC for all i care. but please. you have to be kidding. |
| 09:52.28 | MatryxWrk | MoonWolf: HDD crash from what I can gather |
| 09:52.35 | MatryxWrk | which would require a local KB/monitor |
| 09:52.38 | MatryxWrk | but even so |
| 09:52.43 | MatryxWrk | to only have ONE of each |
| 09:52.52 | MatryxWrk | hell - unplug a TV and use that |
| 09:52.55 | Cairenn|sleep | so, ummm, would you like me to send your "host' one of my spares that I've got sitting around here? |
| 09:52.57 | Cairenn|sleep | geeeeeeez |
| 09:53.04 | MoonWolf | hahaahaha |
| 09:53.22 | MatryxWrk | I've got 2 monitors on my desk - if I'd known 35 mins ago I could have been there with them by now - even if they were in brighton |
| 09:53.26 | Cairenn|sleep | I mean, I've got *at least* 3 extra keyboards lying around, and 2 monitors |
| 09:53.40 | MoonWolf | no monitors 5 keyboards. tons of mouses. |
| 09:53.58 | Cairenn|sleep | did they actually *confirm* they only have ... rofl ... ONE keyboard and monitor? |
| 09:54.10 | Cairenn|sleep | tell me they didn't |
| 09:54.13 | Cairenn|sleep | please |
| 09:54.21 | MatryxWrk | he said "We're currently waiting for someone else to finish using THE keyboard and monitor" |
| 09:54.33 | MatryxWrk | which could be worse |
| 09:54.36 | Cairenn|sleep | I know, but ... no way |
| 09:54.37 | MatryxWrk | as it could imply they share it |
| 09:54.39 | Cairenn|sleep | o.m.g. |
| 09:54.40 | MoonWolf | i really hope they have more then one sever...... |
| 09:54.50 | MatryxWrk | oh they have plenty of servers |
| 09:54.56 | MatryxWrk | just not monitors it seems |
| 09:54.58 | MatryxWrk | or keyboards |
| 09:55.00 | MatryxWrk | ffs |
| 09:55.05 | Cairenn|sleep | for the love of god, we are a volunteer site, we've got ... 3? 4? servers now? |
| 09:55.24 | Cairenn|sleep | *thinks* |
| 09:55.41 | MoonWolf | cohosted ? |
| 09:55.44 | MatryxWrk | nope |
| 09:55.46 | MatryxWrk | dedicated |
| 09:55.49 | MatryxWrk | supposedly |
| 09:55.52 | MatryxWrk | and managed |
| 09:55.53 | MatryxWrk | supposedly |
| 09:56.00 | MoonWolf | really really, i doubt that. |
| 09:56.03 | Cairenn|sleep | 1 for EQ/EQ2, 1 for WoWI, 1 for CTMod ... no, 2 for WoWI, 1 for the DB and 1 for the front end |
| 09:56.03 | MatryxWrk | though I fail to see any managing going on |
| 09:56.10 | MatryxWrk | hence the refunds we'll be pressing for |
| 09:56.16 | MatryxWrk | *sigh* I hate legal action |
| 09:56.52 | MoonWolf | You start with asking nicely when you have your hosting sorted out again. |
| 09:57.20 | Cairenn|sleep | in writing, though |
| 09:57.36 | Cairenn|sleep | I do hope you've got written correspondence of everything that has transpired |
| 09:57.48 | MatryxWrk | yeah |
| 09:57.48 | Cairenn|sleep | given that this is your work though, I'm presuming so |
| 09:57.51 | MatryxWrk | and the original contracts |
| 09:57.56 | MatryxWrk | and all the initial setup stuff |
| 09:58.04 | Cairenn|sleep | that's just insane though |
| 09:58.05 | MatryxWrk | they haven't got a leg to stand on |
| 09:58.15 | Cairenn|sleep | I mean .... *we* have 4 servers ... give me a break! |
| 09:58.16 | MoonWolf | well, in that case. it will stand up in court as far as i can see. |
| 09:58.16 | MatryxWrk | but they could drag it out for months if they tried, thanks to convoluted UK law |
| 09:58.33 | MatryxWrk | at least they're a UK hosting company too |
| 09:58.37 | Cairenn|sleep | and more than 1 keyboard and monitor! |
| 09:58.39 | MatryxWrk | means no dodgy ground on which law to use |
| 09:59.25 | MoonWolf | so, i would like to see that company from the inside. |
| 09:59.45 | MatryxWrk | s/company/managing director/ |
| 09:59.49 | MatryxWrk | inside out |
| 09:59.54 | MoonWolf | haha |
| 09:59.55 | MatryxWrk | on a spike outside my castle |
| 09:59.58 | MatryxWrk | "£(^" |
| 10:00.04 | MatryxWrk | step 1: get a castle |
| 10:00.31 | Cairenn|sleep | lol |
| 10:00.35 | MoonWolf | Cairenn|sleep, who manages your severs, if I may ask ? |
| 10:01.03 | Cairenn|sleep | unh, I don't recall, I would have to check with Dolby |
| 10:01.12 | MoonWolf | nevermind then. |
| 10:01.15 | Cairenn|sleep | some new hosting firm in New Jersey, iirc |
| 10:01.24 | Cairenn|sleep | he's awake, I can ask :) |
| 10:01.29 | MoonWolf | okay. |
| 10:01.29 | MatryxWrk | are you looking for a recommendation? |
| 10:01.29 | Cairenn|sleep | I see him on the sites |
| 10:01.42 | MoonWolf | no, i like to known stuff |
| 10:01.54 | Cairenn|sleep | and do you really want to deal with a US host? given your location ... |
| 10:02.07 | Cairenn|sleep | ah, just info for pure info, okay, will ask |
| 10:02.44 | MatryxWrk | I would heartily recommend WISOL - they're a canadian based hosting company - and if ever we logdge a support ticket by email they phone us within 30 mins and talk us through the problems - they're really excellent |
| 10:03.01 | MatryxWrk | we have 4 servers with them because they're so good, and only using 3 of them really |
| 10:03.16 | MoonWolf | so, your other stuff is moving there then ? |
| 10:03.28 | MatryxWrk | most of our stuff is there |
| 10:03.29 | MatryxWrk | however |
| 10:03.33 | MatryxWrk | because it's canadian |
| 10:03.37 | MatryxWrk | we can't use it for uk sites |
| 10:03.39 | MatryxWrk | like askbaby |
| 10:03.46 | MoonWolf | some stupid law thingy ? |
| 10:03.47 | MatryxWrk | otherwise we lose our search engine positions on the UK sites |
| 10:03.50 | MatryxWrk | e.g. google.co.uk |
| 10:03.55 | MatryxWrk | "thanks" geoip |
| 10:04.02 | MoonWolf | haha |
| 10:04.13 | MatryxWrk | a .com won't show on google.co.uk unless the ip is a europe one |
| 10:04.26 | MatryxWrk | and the site in question is askbaby.com |
| 10:04.27 | MoonWolf | nice feature. |
| 10:04.29 | MatryxWrk | and local.uk.com |
| 10:04.30 | Cairenn|sleep | MoonWolf: Fortress ITX |
| 10:04.38 | MoonWolf | thanks Cairenn|sleep |
| 10:05.24 | Cairenn|sleep | according to Dolby, they sell servers through Dedicatednow.com |
| 10:06.56 | MoonWolf | they have to many day's in a year. |
| 10:07.26 | MoonWolf | or wait, not |
| 10:07.27 | MoonWolf | nevermind. |
| 10:11.22 | MatryxWrk | 54 minutes and they just posted on the ticket "I'm now looking at the server" |
| 10:12.32 | Cairenn|sleep | ... |
| 10:12.50 | MatryxWrk | the boss is looking for new hosts ;) |
| 10:12.59 | Cairenn|sleep | good plan |
| 10:13.31 | MatryxWrk | oh goody |
| 10:13.35 | MatryxWrk | Christmas Suicide Music |
| 10:14.04 | Cairenn|sleep | you know someone might be good to check with? talk to Rushster of worldofwar.net, they are UK (or, darn, is it Euro?) based .. |
| 10:14.14 | MatryxWrk | Rushter is Scotland - correct |
| 10:14.26 | Cairenn|sleep | find out who his host is perhaps? |
| 10:14.28 | MatryxWrk | I've emailed him a few times in the past, but we've already got contacts round the UK :) |
| 10:14.32 | MatryxWrk | we'll go through them first |
| 10:14.36 | Cairenn|sleep | *nod* |
| 10:14.36 | MatryxWrk | see what deals we can expand |
| 10:14.56 | Cairenn|sleep | just tossing out thoughts, in the hopes of being able to help in whatever way ;) |
| 10:15.01 | MatryxWrk | =) appreciated |
| 10:18.07 | MatryxWrk | changing subject :) |
| 10:18.17 | MatryxWrk | :) |
| 10:18.33 | MatryxWrk | I think I'm going to have to make every other one /cackle |
| 10:19.02 | Cairenn|sleep | lol |
| 10:19.04 | MatryxWrk | but tis still good fun to see Selea spitting out stuff like "Extractum Vitae!" every 10-15 secs :) |
| 10:19.17 | Cairenn|sleep | rofl! |
| 10:19.19 | MatryxWrk | "Expando Afflicto!" (amp.curse) |
| 10:19.34 | MatryxWrk | might have to change a few of the more obscure ones |
| 10:19.40 | MatryxWrk | like ifirerarei! |
| 10:19.53 | MatryxWrk | which is a derivative of a latin phrase for injure - but kinda garbled |
| 10:20.26 | MatryxWrk | and pulere perlium or something (er, vaguely "fill with pain", but again garbled) |
| 10:20.59 | MatryxWrk | I think I scared a passing rogue when I exclaimed... "I feel the corruption within strengthening me!" (Demon Armour) |
| 10:21.10 | Cairenn|sleep | heh |
| 10:21.12 | MatryxWrk | ooo I just had a great idea for my next version - Regexp matching for skill names |
| 10:21.29 | MatryxWrk | that way you could set up a single adlib set for Demon (Armor|Skin) |
| 10:21.37 | MatryxWrk | etc |
| 10:21.48 | MatryxWrk | (Coarse|Solid|Heavy) Dynamite |
| 10:21.48 | MatryxWrk | etc |
| 10:21.55 | MatryxWrk | *down |
| 10:24.16 | MatryxWrk | oh yes - US patch day |
| 10:24.20 | MatryxWrk | I never have that worry :) |
| 10:24.29 | Cairenn|sleep | well, maintenance at the very least |
| 10:24.34 | MatryxWrk | simple check for me - "did the US patch yesterday?, no? ok" |
| 10:24.39 | Cairenn|sleep | yeah |
| 10:25.49 | Cairenn|sleep | Sam hasn't told me wrong yet, but ... |
| 10:26.27 | Cairenn|sleep | bah |
| 10:26.29 | Cairenn|sleep | so tired |
| 10:26.32 | Cairenn|sleep | Slouken* |
| 10:26.51 | MatryxWrk | I'd love to have access to Slouken's forums |
| 10:27.07 | Cairenn|sleep | you do have |
| 10:27.10 | Cairenn|sleep | <== |
| 10:27.15 | MatryxWrk | but sadly the EU interface forum's closest blizzard rep is Aeus - and he's more a user than anything else |
| 10:27.32 | Cairenn|sleep | I post for the EU community all the time |
| 10:27.39 | MatryxWrk | =) |
| 10:28.02 | Cairenn|sleep | you PM me with whatever it is you want asked, I post and give you a link |
| 10:28.04 | MatryxWrk | perhaps , version at the end too |
| 10:29.45 | Cairenn|sleep | btw, I'm quite serious with that offer ... send me a PM on the WoWI site, and I'll copy it verbatim to the US ui forum |
| 10:29.55 | Cairenn|sleep | have done so before for others |
| 10:29.57 | MatryxWrk | :) sweet |
| 10:30.02 | MatryxWrk | thanks a lot |
| 10:30.09 | MatryxWrk | woo |
| 10:30.09 | MatryxWrk | http://www.askbaby.com/ |
| 10:30.12 | Cairenn|sleep | not a problem, that's what the community is all about |
| 10:30.12 | MatryxWrk | site just came back up |
| 10:31.00 | MoonWolf | guess the guy was done with they keyboard/monitor. |
| 10:31.03 | Cairenn|sleep | lol |
| 10:31.06 | MatryxWrk | yeah |
| 10:31.19 | MatryxWrk | total time: 1 hr 14 mins |
| 10:31.20 | Cairenn|sleep | that's just *so* sad |
| 10:31.23 | MatryxWrk | for what should have taken 5 mins |
| 10:31.46 | MoonWolf | depends on how severe it was. but yeah. |
| 10:32.02 | MatryxWrk | FSCK generally takes 5 mins |
| 10:32.05 | MatryxWrk | ;) |
| 10:34.03 | MatryxWrk | bah - now I have to repair all the databases |
| 10:36.33 | Cairenn|sleep | okay, going for (hopefully) a nap, back in an hour and a half (unless I pass out cold) |
| 10:36.57 | Cairenn|sleep | good luck MatryxWrk :) |
| 10:37.40 | MatryxWrk | thanks :) |
| 10:42.14 | MatryxWrk | ghah - had to pull our apache down |
| 10:42.23 | MatryxWrk | seems they're trying to be 'helpful' |
| 10:42.39 | MatryxWrk | and issued a repair command on a 2+gb table with constant access |
| 10:42.47 | MatryxWrk | locked up the machine from locked requests |
| 10:42.50 | MatryxWrk | what a bunch of muppets |
| 11:14.29 | *** join/##ace id` (n=tom@gateway.is.remotion.nl) |
| 11:14.31 | id` | http://pastebin.com/471481 |
| 11:14.49 | id` | line 34-39 |
| 11:14.55 | id` | I'm overwriting a function |
| 11:15.06 | id` | i dont think thats a good thing and im breaking other addons |
| 11:15.22 | id` | should i copy over the function to my object, change that and use that for printing? |
| 11:15.59 | id` | no wait, wasnt i already doing that? do'h |
| 11:18.50 | id` | i feel so noob again :< |
| 11:19.03 | id` | its an unknown environment :O |
| 11:26.46 | id` | http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BSKQHEN&key=BSK |
| 11:26.49 | id` | :P |
| 11:41.08 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 11:41.22 | Codayus | Met a lvl 45 rogue. Doesn't speak english. Not in a guild. |
| 11:41.29 | Codayus | Wearing all greens... |
| 11:41.34 | Codayus | Drinks to try and restore stealth. |
| 11:41.39 | Codayus | Er, health. |
| 11:41.43 | Codayus | And doesn't stealth. |
| 11:42.07 | id` | ganK! |
| 11:42.09 | id` | :P |
| 11:42.21 | Codayus | Tried chatting with her, got the response: "NI ZHEN DOU" |
| 11:42.32 | Codayus | I hate to jump to conclusions... |
| 11:43.19 | id` | well i usually prefer soloing too |
| 11:43.21 | Codayus | Rolled need on a green staff of the whale. :-) |
| 11:43.36 | Codayus | Meh, killing some quest mobs a fair ways above my level. Faster. |
| 11:43.36 | id` | wots that |
| 11:43.50 | Codayus | Of the whale is +spirit, +stamina |
| 11:43.53 | Codayus | ie, teh suck |
| 11:44.47 | id` | whats +stam do in wow.. theres only a power bar |
| 11:45.07 | Tekkub | HP |
| 11:45.16 | Codayus | Power bar? |
| 11:45.34 | id` | yes, mana/power/whatever |
| 11:45.46 | Tekkub | mana/rage/energy |
| 11:45.47 | Codayus | ...energy, rage, mana. |
| 11:45.49 | Codayus | Not power. :-) |
| 11:45.54 | Tekkub | (focus on pets) |
| 11:45.58 | id` | i see no need in calling it different names. its power. classes use it differently. its still the same thing |
| 11:46.12 | Tekkub | ah but it's not the same thing |
| 11:46.14 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 11:46.24 | Tekkub | mana pots don't give you rage |
| 11:46.24 | id` | i also yell OOP when out of power |
| 11:46.25 | id` | :P |
| 11:46.34 | Tekkub | out of poop? |
| 11:47.19 | Tekkub | I still think the "I don't have enough rage" voiceclips need to be replaced with "I'm not pissed off enough!" |
| 11:47.36 | id` | anoying sound. i disable it |
| 11:47.45 | id` | totally unneeded |
| 11:47.51 | id` | + i always spam it |
| 11:48.04 | Tekkub | I don't mind em, but then I rarely hear it unless I'm out of mana |
| 11:48.22 | id` | ya but as rogue for example you spam sinister strike and cheap shot etc to death |
| 11:48.23 | Tekkub | I never liked Warrior much :) |
| 11:48.32 | Tekkub | didn't like rogue either |
| 11:48.32 | id` | quite anoying to hear it all the time |
| 11:48.37 | id` | me neither |
| 11:48.38 | Tekkub | I'm a acster, always have been |
| 11:48.54 | id` | i like warlock, hunter and shaman |
| 11:48.58 | Tekkub | hell I was a damn galka WHM/BLM in FFXI |
| 11:49.15 | id` | never played that :] |
| 11:49.20 | Tekkub | I like druid the most, then priest... but I've always been a healer |
| 11:49.37 | Tekkub | mage isn't as complex as BLM was in FFXI, so I don't like it much |
| 11:49.38 | id` | meh, druid |
| 11:49.54 | id` | dont like it |
| 11:49.57 | Tekkub | there's no real strategy to your spellcasting, just nuke nuke nuke |
| 11:50.03 | id` | maybe because i dont know how to play one effectively though |
| 11:50.13 | Tekkub | could be :) |
| 11:50.20 | Tekkub | I like healers, and I like bears |
| 11:50.29 | Tekkub | and I like tauren... so :) |
| 11:50.42 | id` | ... :| |
| 11:51.11 | id` | I have a bald female orc hunter that i play now |
| 11:51.13 | id` | looks cool |
| 11:51.15 | Tekkub | heh |
| 11:51.27 | Tekkub | I have a dorf hunter |
| 11:51.38 | id` | like spawned from the person-factory with a barcode in your nack.. you know.. |
| 11:51.45 | id` | neck* |
| 11:51.53 | Tekkub | I honestly don't like the class that much for group play, I did it for the pet bear, and I duo with my hubby's druid |
| 11:52.15 | Tekkub | nah, like I said I like bears |
| 11:52.16 | id` | bears are the way to go if you care about its food imo |
| 11:52.25 | Tekkub | and I like dorfs cause I got a beard fetish |
| 11:52.31 | id` | lol |
| 11:52.44 | Tekkub | so dorf hunter pet bear was perfect |
| 11:52.51 | id` | i need to shave mine but im so lazy |
| 11:53.07 | Tekkub | nah, shaving's bad |
| 11:53.10 | id` | y |
| 11:53.21 | Tekkub | beards good |
| 11:53.24 | id` | y |
| 11:53.31 | Tekkub | cause they secksy |
| 11:53.34 | id` | y |
| 11:53.39 | id` | xD |
| 11:53.46 | Tekkub | cause I like fur :P |
| 11:53.49 | id` | y |
| 11:53.58 | id` | lol childish :p |
| 11:54.02 | Tekkub | you suck |
| 11:54.05 | id` | y |
| 11:54.07 | id` | xD |
| 11:54.19 | id` | y? |
| 11:54.20 | Tekkub | I'm gonna go /blow that guy at the inn to get my hourly berries |
| 11:54.30 | id` | .. :| |
| 11:54.42 | id` | iiiiamgoing back to work |
| 11:54.43 | Cairenn|sleep | Tekkub: out of curiosity |
| 11:54.47 | id` | :p |
| 11:54.51 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.04 | Tekkub | I'm taking back that /blow job |
| 11:55.08 | Tekkub | yes cair? |
| 11:55.28 | Cairenn|sleep | do you ever get tired of trying to shock people? you aren't very good at it, at least in here ;) |
| 11:55.38 | Tekkub | shock? |
| 11:55.52 | Tekkub | If I wanted to shock them I'd have em google my pet bear's name |
| 11:56.02 | Tekkub | *evil grin* |
| 11:56.12 | Cairenn|sleep | and that would be? |
| 11:56.14 | id` | purl, tekkub is also <Tekkub> /slap I don't want the shitty wistletoe! <Tekkub>I'm taking back that /blow job <Tekkub>yes cair? |
| 11:56.16 | purl | id`: please, watch your language. |
| 11:56.22 | id` | lmao |
| 11:56.27 | id` | purl: tekkub? |
| 11:56.28 | purl | Do you have any butter? |
| 11:56.33 | Tekkub | haha! |
| 11:56.41 | id` | purl, whatis tekkub |
| 11:56.44 | Tekkub | cair: Bruin Heat |
| 11:56.47 | Cairenn|sleep | lol |
| 11:57.01 | Tekkub | plug that in hit the "me lucky" button |
| 11:57.07 | id` | NO! |
| 11:57.08 | id` | lol |
| 11:57.26 | id` | purl, literal tekkub |
| 11:57.27 | purl | "tekkub" is "<reply>Do you have any butter?" |
| 11:57.49 | id` | purl, tekkub is also <Tekkub> /slap I don't want the shitty wistletoe! <Tekkub>I'm taking back that /blow j ob <Tekkub>yes cair? |
| 11:57.51 | purl | id`: please, watch your language. |
| 11:57.54 | Tekkub | id, butter is not that good, Crisco is much more enjoyable, keeps longer, and costs a lot less |
| 11:58.00 | id` | =( |
| 11:58.13 | id` | purl, tekkub is also <Tekkub> /slap I don't want the shitty wistletoe! <Tekkub>I'm taking back that /blo w j ob <Tekkub>yes cair? |
| 11:58.15 | purl | id`: please, watch your language. |
| 11:58.21 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 11:58.23 | Cairenn|sleep | change it to shoddy |
| 11:58.27 | id` | kergoth: make suckier regex! |
| 11:58.27 | Tekkub | you could pick a better one |
| 11:58.40 | Tekkub | here I'll give you a good one |
| 11:58.41 | id` | kergoth: so i can exploit it |
| 11:58.52 | Tekkub | Someone hand me some Crisco and a Bruin Heat! |
| 11:58.56 | Cairenn|sleep | id, it's complaining about shitty, change it to shoddy |
| 11:59.00 | id` | ow |
| 11:59.12 | id` | purl, tekkub is also <Tekkub> /slap I don't want the shoddy wistletoe! <Tekkub>I'm taking back that /blow job <Tekkub>yes cair? |
| 11:59.14 | purl | okay, id` |
| 11:59.19 | Cairenn|sleep | see? |
| 11:59.22 | Tekkub | make that "and my Brun Heat" |
| 11:59.32 | id` | purl, tekkub is also <Tekkub> Someone hand me some Crisco and my Bruin Heat! |
| 11:59.33 | purl | okay, id` |
| 11:59.40 | id` | purl: literal tekkub |
| 11:59.41 | purl | "tekkub" is "<reply>Do you have any butter?, or <Tekkub> /slap I don't want the shoddy wistletoe! <Tekkub>I'm taking back that /blow job <Tekkub>yes cair?, or <Tekkub> Someone hand me some Crisco and my Bruin Heat!" |
| 11:59.45 | id` | ha ha :] |
| 11:59.53 | Tekkub | you could fix my typo :P |
| 11:59.54 | id` | purl, literal industrial |
| 12:00.01 | Cairenn|sleep | take out the "yes cair?" since it really doesn't fit with the rest :p |
| 12:00.02 | Tekkub | and what's with the "yes cair?" |
| 12:00.37 | id` | purl: literal Industrial |
| 12:00.41 | Tekkub | Hey Cair... |
| 12:00.46 | Cairenn|sleep | yeah? |
| 12:00.50 | Tekkub | can I call you "lady"? |
| 12:00.52 | id` | purl, Industrial |
| 12:00.58 | id` | pfff |
| 12:00.59 | id` | :p |
| 12:01.14 | id` | purl literal cairenn |
| 12:01.16 | purl | "cairenn" is "one of the administrators of WoWInterface.com, also EQInterface, EQ2Interface and VGInterface" |
| 12:01.16 | id` | purl literal cair |
| 12:01.18 | Cairenn|sleep | depends, is it an insult or a compliment in the manner that you intend to use it? |
| 12:01.18 | Tekkub | and did you go hit up google? |
| 12:01.29 | Tekkub | uh... |
| 12:01.33 | id` | Cairenn|sleep: i wanted to ask you |
| 12:01.37 | Cairenn|sleep | Tekkub: I didn't need to :p |
| 12:01.38 | id` | Cairenn|sleep: what is VG? |
| 12:01.41 | Tekkub | it's in the manner of "okey lady I love you buh bye!" |
| 12:01.56 | Cairenn|sleep | Vanguard:Saga of Heroes |
| 12:02.06 | id` | dat fun? |
| 12:02.07 | Tekkub | yes you do.. if you go browse their selection you'll find out the real reason ally ride gryphons |
| 12:02.15 | Cairenn|sleep | Tekkub: that's fine |
| 12:02.31 | id` | Bruin Heat |
| 12:02.36 | Cairenn|sleep | id`: not live yet |
| 12:02.51 | Tekkub | yes id, NSFWx20 |
| 12:02.58 | Tekkub | but oh so good |
| 12:03.07 | Tekkub | and the gryphon one... rawr! |
| 12:03.14 | Tekkub | thor's damn scary tho |
| 12:03.27 | id` | Tekkub: im at work and i googled 8| |
| 12:04.12 | Tekkub | okey the name in and of itsself should have been a hint that it's not really "safe" |
| 12:04.34 | Tekkub | see Cair, I can shock and awe when I want to |
| 12:04.54 | Cairenn|sleep | I just ... continually wonder why you feel the need to :p |
| 12:05.03 | Cairenn|sleep | it's like, you're gay, so what? |
| 12:05.04 | Tekkub | cause it's fun? |
| 12:05.37 | Tekkub | I don't know why ya think me telling him not to shave was an attempt at shocking him... |
| 12:05.57 | Cairenn|sleep | nm hun, just picking at ya :p |
| 12:06.04 | Tekkub | :P |
| 12:06.25 | Tekkub | I don't understand why you feel the need to constantly pick on me for being gay |
| 12:06.38 | Tekkub | I mean, I am, so what? |
| 12:07.07 | Tekkub | eh oh, kitty's out of food, she's giving me the death stare |
| 12:07.21 | Tekkub | she can look evil when she wants to |
| 12:07.45 | id` | The combat features seem relatively unique in the genre. In short, the greater awareness you have about the monster you are fighting, the better you are in dealing with that monster and ultimately in countering its offense. In other words, as you learn a monster’s fighting styles and special abilities you can grow to turn those abilities back against the creature. As you make awareness checks new options open up within combat. For example, if you a |
| 12:07.46 | id` | re familiar enough with a particular special attack you may have the opportunity quickly defend against it and suffer less or no damage. If you’re even more experienced or aware then a successful defense may open up special counter-attack moves. So, instead of queuing up a traditional series of attacks, you are interactively involved in what’s happening. |
| 12:07.50 | Tekkub | gah! |
| 12:07.53 | id` | woot! |
| 12:07.56 | Tekkub | too much text! |
| 12:08.00 | Tekkub | too lazy to read! |
| 12:08.02 | id` | this is what i've always been yelling! |
| 12:08.06 | id` | about mmorpg |
| 12:08.50 | Tekkub | hrm... eeenteresting |
| 12:08.53 | id` | if only theyd make it so thay those abilities aren ton some "bar" |
| 12:08.58 | id` | aren't on* |
| 12:09.11 | id` | but you need to use your mouse interactively ON the other character |
| 12:09.25 | Tekkub | bum... I'm out of soda.... |
| 12:09.27 | id` | that'd be kickass |
| 12:09.32 | id` | right Cairenn|sleep :P? |
| 12:09.37 | Tekkub | looks like it's cheap wine-wannabe beer for me |
| 12:10.18 | id` | Cairenn|sleep: can i play open beta for this? i so wanna see it |
| 12:10.34 | id` | i wont ever buy a game anymore before ive played it for 10 days |
| 12:10.49 | id` | heppened to me with City of Villains |
| 12:10.50 | Tekkub | bad history? |
| 12:10.52 | Tekkub | ah |
| 12:10.56 | id` | in wich you have a lvl 40 char in 2 weeks |
| 12:11.02 | id` | and is generally pretty gay |
| 12:11.03 | id` | :| |
| 12:11.08 | id` | (er oops) |
| 12:11.10 | id` | :X |
| 12:11.18 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.26 | id` | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.26 | Tekkub | what's gay about tights? |
| 12:11.29 | Tekkub | oh... yea |
| 12:11.49 | id` | you _can_ make really cute chicks with it though :P |
| 12:11.54 | id` | i always play female chars \o/ |
| 12:12.02 | Tekkub | you hear the news, there's some stupid hubbub about the new superman movie... he's got too much package |
| 12:12.05 | id` | OR a very cool ninja-ish type |
| 12:12.06 | id` | :) |
| 12:12.20 | id` | Tekkub: really? lol! |
| 12:12.21 | Tekkub | like it's not obvious that it's stuffed anyway |
| 12:12.42 | id` | lol sock lol :E |
| 12:12.51 | Tekkub | yup! |
| 12:12.58 | id` | boss alert |
| 12:13.03 | id` | *switch desktop* |
| 12:13.04 | Tekkub | ohnoes! |
| 12:13.10 | id` | i have 9 :] |
| 12:13.24 | Tekkub | I better not talk about superman's gigantic manmeat anymore! |
| 12:13.35 | id` | and like, they are all filled and i have 20MB ram left |
| 12:13.36 | id` | :> |
| 12:13.47 | Tekkub | heh, I just go multimon |
| 12:13.55 | Tekkub | I hate that multi-desktop crap |
| 12:14.26 | id` | why |
| 12:14.38 | Tekkub | cause it sucks :) |
| 12:14.46 | id` | i can have 9 task bars all with full screen apps and different "types" on each |
| 12:14.50 | Tekkub | once you muntimon you never go back |
| 12:14.53 | id` | e.g. project management on one, coding on another |
| 12:14.56 | id` | social on another |
| 12:15.01 | id` | download&media on another |
| 12:15.02 | id` | etc |
| 12:15.04 | Tekkub | that's too many running apps |
| 12:15.15 | id` | i run it on my 512MB ram laptop.. |
| 12:15.31 | Tekkub | I got... lesse... WoW, Trill, Firefox, Winamp, RSS reader |
| 12:15.39 | Tekkub | oh and UltraEdit |
| 12:15.46 | id` | www.vim.org *cough* |
| 12:15.48 | id` | :x |
| 12:16.04 | Tekkub | if I could get two forums to give me an RSS feed I wouldn't need to keep firfox open |
| 12:16.16 | Tekkub | and that's free up like 170MiB of VM |
| 12:18.30 | id` | No but really Cairenn|sleep, Tekkub doesnt scare me with that. I'm used to going out to goth clubs. And standing next to a chick in the bathroom.. or not... |
| 12:18.54 | Cairenn|sleep | that's my point :p |
| 12:19.09 | Cairenn|sleep | we *aren't* shocked or whatever by it, so why keep trying :p |
| 12:19.12 | id` | :E |
| 12:19.46 | Cairenn|sleep | is it so incredibly hard to believe that there is a place where people are fine with it? |
| 12:19.56 | Cairenn|sleep | :p |
| 12:20.05 | id` | goth scene :) |
| 12:20.18 | id` | right um... |
| 12:20.21 | id` | MatryxWrk: ? |
| 12:20.22 | id` | :) |
| 12:20.44 | MatryxWrk | pardon? |
| 12:20.48 | MatryxWrk | goth? what? |
| 12:21.45 | Cairenn|sleep | oh for the love of Elune, bring the @#$%%&!!$ servers down already, so I can confirm 500% that the patch isn't going live today, even though I already know it isn't |
| 12:22.03 | Tekkub | I never expected ya'll to be shocked by me, you already have one furry here anyway |
| 12:22.17 | Tekkub | I don't get why cair thinks I'm out to shock yas |
| 12:22.41 | Cairenn|sleep | normally, the servers would have been down by now, so today, when I *want* them to go down, they stay up late ... |
| 12:23.20 | Tekkub | whiner! |
| 12:23.28 | Cairenn|sleep | damn right |
| 12:23.53 | Tekkub | "OMG the server didn't go down for main on time... I WANTS FREE PLAYTIME!!!!!!" |
| 12:24.19 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/psyclon%20nine-divine%20infekt-06-payback-.wma |
| 12:24.20 | Tekkub | CREDIT CREDIT CREDIT!!! I'M A PAYING CUSTOMER!!!! |
| 12:24.21 | id` | skip to 01:00 |
| 12:24.26 | Cairenn|sleep | lol |
| 12:24.40 | id` | sick :) |
| 12:26.13 | Tekkub | please stop! |
| 12:26.36 | Tekkub | *shrug* sounds like loud angry music to me |
| 12:26.41 | id` | no no nomore... no .. no no NO SCHILLLKKK NOOOO |
| 12:26.48 | Tekkub | I can't even really understand what they saying |
| 12:28.33 | id` | http://industriallyrics.com/index.php?page=lyrics&songName=Payback&songID=6565&bandID=243&bandName=psyclon%20nine&albumID=588&albumName=divine+infekt |
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| 12:28.56 | Tekkub | hey look it's Hairey! |
| 12:30.13 | Tekkub | wewt I win! |
| 12:30.29 | Tekkub | I love taking a huge ass mod and weeding it down to 20 lines of code :) |
| 12:30.48 | Tekkub | people get too overly complex in their code |
| 12:31.14 | id` | Tekkub: thats what i did with chatscroll |
| 12:31.21 | id` | 14kb -> 3kb |
| 12:31.30 | Tekkub | yup! |
| 12:31.41 | id` | Lay on the ground rotten. Your life your being now forgotten. Slaughtered for my love of bloodshed. Spattered body |
| 12:31.41 | id` | Dead remain dead |
| 12:31.50 | Tekkub | Chatscroll was actually the first I did that too |
| 12:32.00 | id` | next is mapscroll |
| 12:32.01 | id` | :0 |
| 12:32.01 | Tekkub | but when I found yours I dropped mine |
| 12:32.10 | Tekkub | cause yours was an Ace mod |
| 12:32.14 | id` | :) |
| 12:32.24 | Tekkub | I need to ace all my shit, but I get lazy |
| 12:32.26 | id` | well i am too unknown to WOW and ace to do it good, imo |
| 12:32.32 | Tekkub | I trim it down, that's the big thing |
| 12:32.44 | id` | i need to learn more about the hooking because i think im doing it wrong |
| 12:32.45 | Tekkub | but then I get lazy |
| 12:33.01 | Tekkub | I know I could hook a bit better, but it works |
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| 12:33.17 | Cairenn|sleep | Cairenn|sleep: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6306920&tmp=1#post6306920 |
| 12:33.17 | Cairenn|sleep | Cairenn|sleep: aaand ... test servers will be coming *back* up for a while this week: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6309117&tmp=1#post6309117 |
| 12:33.20 | Tekkub | and if someone got AceHooks all done and happy I'd show more effort on that front |
| 12:33.33 | id` | Cairenn|sleep: nighty night! |
| 12:33.37 | Tekkub | fucking trill.... |
| 12:33.42 | id` | Tekkub: yeah same |
| 12:33.52 | Tekkub | refuses to admit I have Firefox set as main browser now.. |
| 12:34.02 | id` | Tekkub: and when they finish the aceGUI tutorial ill learn that |
| 12:34.12 | Tekkub | yea I need that too |
| 12:34.16 | Tekkub | and Acebar damnit |
| 12:34.39 | Tekkub | if they got acebar done I'd get my whole batch of lil titan mods converted and slimmed down in a heartbeat |
| 12:34.56 | Tekkub | I have so many nice lil titan mods, like mail and durability |
| 12:35.43 | id` | my screen consists of Minigroup2 under my player model, 30 buttons grid -> bottom center, chat left of that - 0% background, 4 buttons for bags bottomright in upward direction and the minimap |
| 12:35.47 | id` | nothing more |
| 12:36.30 | Tekkub | mon1: buffs, half of pet bar in topright... 12-button nostromo matrix bottom center, casting bar below |
| 12:36.54 | Tekkub | mon2: minimap, a bunch of chat frames, the two rightside buttonbars, and the quest tracker |
| 12:37.04 | Tekkub | oh and titan across the top on mon1 |
| 12:37.20 | Tekkub | I dropped the pet bar down to 6 buttons :) |
| 12:37.38 | Tekkub | I'd like to condense the reaction three into one button really |
| 12:38.00 | Tekkub | same with stay/follow they could be one |
| 12:38.13 | Tekkub | that'd take it down to 3 buttons instead of 6 |
| 12:38.17 | id` | i have autorun z follow S-z |
| 12:38.37 | id` | x sit |
| 12:38.39 | id` | c assist |
| 12:38.47 | id` | q attack, S-q pet attack |
| 12:38.51 | Tekkub | oh yea I got a popbar for backback buttons... |
| 12:39.01 | id` | and erfv i use for panels |
| 12:39.05 | Tekkub | shows the bag0 button, all pop up on hover |
| 12:39.15 | id` | i jus use e top open OneBack |
| 12:39.22 | id` | Bag* |
| 12:39.32 | id` | mm i need to get back to word |
| 12:39.33 | id` | work |
| 12:39.35 | id` | gah |
| 12:39.38 | Tekkub | well I like having avail to switch bags |
| 12:39.52 | Tekkub | like tonight I upgraded my hunter to all 16-slots |
| 12:40.10 | Tekkub | and I use EngInv... at least till InvSort is done |
| 12:40.18 | Tekkub | I like it, but it's oh so bulky |
| 12:40.32 | Tekkub | and the guy's coding is so arcane I ain't gonna fuck with it |
| 12:40.56 | Tekkub | I disable the BAG_UPDATES when the window's not visible, that was plenty tweaks for me |
| 12:41.53 | Tekkub | welp, off I go to pick up the house a tad |
| 13:41.56 | id` | rowne will like this: http://deoxy.org/endwork.htm |
| 13:45.38 | MatryxWrk | meh - his principles are fundamentally flawed |
| 13:45.45 | MatryxWrk | but it's an interesting read |
| 13:46.54 | MatryxWrk | he tries to argue that work kills people, but failed to point out the benefits to life expectancy the work has brought about |
| 13:47.19 | MatryxWrk | claiming that 2,500 will be killed on the job this year is nothing compared to the number who would starve if they went back to the hunter-gathering he seems to want |
| 13:50.56 | id` | ah, but is natural selection a bad thing then? |
| 13:59.01 | id` | hmm? :) |
| 14:08.45 | MatryxWrk | well you lose all the technology benefits of life as we know it |
| 14:08.50 | MatryxWrk | all the social support structures |
| 14:09.02 | MatryxWrk | and limit 'life' to those who are a) close to food and established already |
| 14:09.10 | MatryxWrk | and b) those who can kill those who are in group a) |
| 14:21.42 | id` | such is life |
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| 17:23.51 | kergoth | morning |
| 17:23.56 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:24.01 | MatryxWrk | morning Kergoth |
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| 17:25.22 | MatryxWrk | 'lo Parak |
| 17:27.20 | Parak | herro |
| 17:27.28 | MatryxWrk | ^_^ |
| 17:29.19 | id` | I'm going to acify SilverBars |
| 17:29.31 | id` | Silverbars shows keybindings |
| 17:29.43 | id` | ofcource ill be sing visor itself to update the text on the buttons |
| 17:29.52 | id` | name: idVisorActionButtonKeybindings |
| 17:29.54 | id` | too long? |
| 17:30.23 | id` | It could later become a visor module but i dont know how that works yet so ill focus on getting this to work first |
| 17:31.42 | id` | Any suggestions on the name "idVisorActionButtonKeybindings"? I Don't like to ahorten it to idVABKeybindings or idVisorKeybindings because it only adresses the VisorActionButton frames |
| 17:32.22 | kergoth | apparently the guy i did a phone interview with yesterday wants to fly me out for an in person interview next week |
| 17:32.28 | kergoth | guess it went better than i thought |
| 17:32.32 | id` | i should take a look into other addons more often :O (and find out i can redo that (thats good (for me (for experience)))) |
| 17:32.39 | id` | kergoth: \o/ |
| 17:34.18 | Tain | Kickass, kergoth. |
| 17:34.35 | Tain | What does it do exactly, id? |
| 17:35.11 | id` | uh, on the event 'UPDATE_BINDINGS' figure out if its a visor action button if so use visor to display the keybinding on the button |
| 17:35.31 | id` | and replace SHIFT with S etc ofcource |
| 17:36.31 | id` | visor is cool, but i think (the buttons at least) should be used to automate things |
| 17:36.45 | id` | like this |
| 17:36.49 | id` | and um, making bars |
| 17:36.50 | id` | :) |
| 17:37.04 | id` | oh! |
| 17:37.09 | id` | ill throw them in one! |
| 17:37.26 | id` | idVisorActionButtonBars ! |
| 17:37.41 | Tain | Yeah, a bar maintenance mod is really needed. I haven't had time to try. |
| 17:38.23 | Tain | Visor does have the ability to do things on form changes now so it can be used to fully replace default bars / cardbarsw, etc. |
| 17:38.36 | id` | yeah |
| 17:39.33 | id` | What visor needs is to have a community like flexbar. |
| 17:39.40 | id` | People exchanging scripts that do stuff |
| 17:40.00 | id` | hey um, question before i go eat (so i have things to think about while i eat hehe) |
| 17:40.12 | id` | with visor you cant make new frames |
| 17:40.16 | Tain | Yeah there has just been a couple things missing, mostly (I think) the shapeshift. |
| 17:40.38 | id` | can i make a new frame with aceGUI from inside an addon in world of warcraft like |
| 17:41.04 | id` | funcbook? |
| 17:42.11 | Tain | What do you mean exactly? You can use AceGUI from any addon. Frames have to be defined in XML first no matter what though. |
| 17:59.10 | Codayus | Discord Art lets you create frames; but the way it does that is create 20 blank templates, which you can then modify and use in-game. |
| 17:59.37 | Codayus | So you aren't really *creating* them, they're done in XML... |
| 18:03.26 | id` | right thats what i meant |
| 18:03.45 | id` | that also could be an addition to visor |
| 18:04.02 | id` | just one that makes 100 frames or whatever |
| 18:04.05 | id` | that are empty |
| 18:04.07 | Codayus | There's no reason in principle that functionality couldn't be added to visor, although I'm not sure it wouldn't be more appropriate as a seperate addon, with visor just used to control/modify them. Or not, I dunno. |
| 18:04.15 | id` | for everyone to decorate with |
| 18:04.31 | id` | Codayus: visor is made up of modules |
| 18:04.59 | id` | Codayus: one could make a module to automate buttons to make bars for example. and everyone has the option to use it |
| 18:05.03 | Codayus | There's a performance hit, if memory serves, even for empty hidden frames. Or I think I might have recalled hearing that. |
| 18:05.27 | Codayus | I'm very very weak on the graphical/XML side of WoW. |
| 18:05.37 | id` | im weak on all side |
| 18:05.38 | id` | s |
| 18:05.48 | id` | lua, xml and the game itself |
| 18:05.51 | id` | highest char is lvl 12 :p |
| 18:05.56 | id` | (but i have 20...) |
| 18:06.02 | Codayus | id`: I know; it just seems a bit random to be a visor module though. <shrug> OTOH, I don't use visor (although I might if it supported frames...) |
| 18:06.30 | id` | Codayus: you mean frames as in what we are discussing or..? |
| 18:06.37 | id` | Good morning Cairenn ! |
| 18:06.42 | Cairenn | hey |
| 18:06.44 | kergoth | s/Good // |
| 18:06.47 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 18:06.48 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 18:06.57 | id` | ;p |
| 18:07.14 | Codayus | I think so? Er...sorry, we just ran off the edge of the Codayus WoW GUI Knowledge Cliff. I shall now begin smiling nervously and nodding. |
| 18:08.13 | Tain | Yeah there is a hit on creating frames, even empty. I don't know exactly how much, and I suspect that visorGUI handles this much better because you have to define very little in XML. |
| 18:08.57 | Tain | Visor buttons module right now creates 120 blank button frames. |
| 18:09.21 | Codayus | DART adds 20 by default, but it does it by creating a template in one XML file, and then has a second XML file with 20 lines like <Button name="DART_Texture_11" inherits="DART_TextureTemplate" id="11"/> |
| 18:09.37 | Codayus | And the instructions tell the user to add more lines if they need more textures. |
| 18:09.57 | Tain | Yeah that's sort of how AceGUI works. There's templates to inherit from, you just add as many "blank" frames as you need. |
| 18:09.58 | Codayus | That's...messy, but it's one way of minimizing whatever performance impact there may be. |
| 18:10.37 | Codayus | True, but DART is designed for "end users" to play with. Asking them to edit XML files, even for really simple edits like that, is, mmm, better avoided if possible. |
| 18:10.39 | Tain | DART does it specifically for applying textures anyplace on the screen you like. |
| 18:10.58 | Tain | It can be done for anything though. |
| 18:11.07 | Codayus | But there really isn't any other way, so... |
| 18:11.20 | Tain | Well we're talking generally here Codayus, any addon that used this method would define them already and not rely on end-uses to add their own. |
| 18:11.38 | Codayus | Sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear enough. |
| 18:11.55 | kergoth | i wonder. if you were to do FooFrame = nil, would the attached userdata (in index 0 of the table) get garbage collected, if it had no children? |
| 18:12.06 | Codayus | My comment was that if you don't know how many blank frames you'll need, you could either create way more than needed, or have the user add more by editing the XML if needed... |
| 18:12.09 | Tain | heh good question kergoth |
| 18:12.30 | Codayus | id` was talking about 100, I think... |
| 18:12.31 | Tain | Yes that's true, Codayus. |
| 18:12.39 | kergoth | if so, you could nil out the frames that arent being used, on startup, let them get gc'd to free ram. then when the user wants to bump the amount, they'd have to reloadui |
| 18:12.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:12.57 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 18:12.59 | Tain | That's not a bad idea, kergoth. That needs to be tested. |
| 18:13.07 | id` | yeh |
| 18:13.07 | id` | :) |
| 18:13.08 | Codayus | Nifty hack, if it worked. |
| 18:13.13 | Tain | Actually if it works it's a great idea. |
| 18:13.41 | MoonWolf | yay, i am currently using silverbars |
| 18:13.46 | Codayus | id`: You need to work on the name, I think. :-) |
| 18:13.47 | MoonWolf | it is a good mod... |
| 18:13.55 | Tain | Silverbars... Silverbars... it's Christmas time, in Ace city. |
| 18:13.56 | Codayus | SilverBars? Which one is that, again? |
| 18:13.57 | id` | Codayus: suggestions? |
| 18:14.08 | Codayus | Codayus: I'm horrible at names; don't look at me. |
| 18:14.15 | id` | SilverBars adds keybindings to all default blizz bars |
| 18:14.17 | MoonWolf | Codayus, the one that doesnt do shorthands for shift and ctrl and stuff. |
| 18:14.40 | Codayus | The mod I'm working on is called AutoHunter, which was appropriate for what I originally intended the mod to do, but has remarkably little to do with anything it does now... |
| 18:14.40 | id` | im just stealing his "grab" code. and ill use visor to show the text on the visor bars |
| 18:14.53 | id` | hehe |
| 18:15.07 | Tain | You mean grabbing the keybinding and displaying it on the button? |
| 18:15.59 | Tain | I've never actually looked at Silverbars. |
| 18:16.17 | kergoth | Tain: itd be easy to test the nil out thing. create a weak keyed table, put the userdata in [0] into the weak keyed table as a key, with true or something as the value. nil out the frame table. watch and see if that element in the weak keyed table vanishes |
| 18:17.09 | Tain | Yeah kergoth, makes me want to leave work early to go home and try it. ;) |
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| 18:17.45 | Tain | Hey id, is it something like the last entry here? https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/wiki/VisorRecipes |
| 18:18.34 | id` | Tain: yeah |
| 18:19.23 | kergoth | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/12/16 .. gosh i love PA |
| 18:19.29 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 18:20.21 | id` | ha ha :-) |
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| 18:22.14 | Cairenn | I like Woody's comic today: http://www.gucomics.com/ |
| 18:27.37 | Tain | That Penny Arcade was funny as hell. |
| 18:27.43 | Tain | I can't get to gucomics for some reason. :( |
| 18:28.01 | Tain | Cairenn hacked Woody! |
| 18:28.15 | Cairenn | *blink* |
| 18:28.25 | Cairenn | I can |
| 18:28.42 | Cairenn | buuuutttt ... I can't get to the forum now :( |
| 18:29.34 | Tain | I don't know why I feel like it's got to be almost Friday already |
| 18:30.47 | Tain | The hell with your other addons id, see if kergoth's idea works. I need to know. |
| 18:31.36 | kergoth | somehow i doubt it, but ya never know |
| 18:31.42 | Tain | Yeah I know. |
| 18:31.53 | Tain | I do doubt it, but it's just one of those things I could see no one thinking of trying. |
| 18:32.57 | id` | well, a better name anyone? |
| 18:33.08 | id` | idVisorActionButtonBars |
| 18:33.14 | id` | idVisorButtonBars |
| 18:33.18 | id` | idButtonBars |
| 18:33.25 | id` | ill settle with that |
| 18:33.33 | id` | or just... idBars... |
| 18:33.34 | id` | hmmm |
| 18:33.35 | id` | :d |
| 18:33.51 | kergoth | i dunno, that implies it does more than it does. sounds like its a generic button/bar manipulator, when it really just adds keybindings |
| 18:33.56 | kergoth | or are you planning on adding more stuff? |
| 18:34.13 | id` | no im also adding my function that makes bars out of visor buttons |
| 18:34.38 | id` | Its simple and im not releasing it anywhere really.. |
| 18:34.48 | id` | until i have enough and ill release them all at once |
| 18:34.49 | id` | :] |
| 18:35.07 | id` | at wich point ill be better at writing lua |
| 18:35.09 | id` | :O |
| 18:35.16 | id` | so ic an handle user input better >_< |
| 18:39.52 | id` | o, how i dislike '..' in lua |
| 18:39.53 | id` | :| |
| 18:39.57 | id` | make it + or whatever |
| 18:40.11 | id` | string+string=bigstring how hard is that |
| 18:42.18 | Tain | Just a matter of getting used to the conventions and going with it. Or creating your own replacement functions for concat. |
| 18:42.36 | Tain | Damn that reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask forever about metatables. |
| 18:44.31 | id` | can i do local a,b=0,c ? |
| 18:44.50 | Tain | kergoth, with a lot of Ace people talking about implementing different things in metatables, will people be able to start bumping into each other trying to modify the same metatable with different things? |
| 18:44.55 | Tain | Yes id |
| 18:44.58 | id` | heh, now that i write it down it looks more like a function |
| 18:45.06 | id` | local(a,b=0,c) |
| 18:45.06 | id` | :p |
| 18:46.22 | kergoth | Tain: yep, could certainly happen, if they're both trying to manipulate the same tables |
| 18:46.59 | Tain | That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure. I'm not as worried about people who are collaborating and communicating here, but more if there wre someone else out there who started playing with metatables in addons. |
| 18:47.49 | kergoth | if you really wanted to be safe about it, you'd do something like what people do with hooking. instead of calling rawset/rawget in the index metamethods, if there already was an index/newindex metamethod, you'd call that instead of the raw versions |
| 18:47.52 | kergoth | afaik |
| 18:48.59 | kergoth | "All orders placed this week will arrive after December 25th. But a late present from us still beats a crappy present on time!" -- tshirthell.com |
| 18:49.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:49.06 | Tain | hah |
| 18:50.06 | Tain | Interesting, and a good thing (tm) in my opinion. |
| 18:50.07 | Tain | 'our conclusion today is that it is unconstitutional to teach ID as an alternative to evolution in a public school science classroom.' |
| 18:52.35 | MoonWolf | finally |
| 18:52.47 | MoonWolf | teach ID in religion classes all you want. |
| 18:52.55 | MoonWolf | but not in science. |
| 19:03.49 | Ratbert_CP | Why not? (Devil's Advocate here) I don't see a disconnect by adding ID to science discussion. Not the replacement of hard science, mind you, but the inclusion of other viewpoints. |
| 19:04.07 | Codayus | Ratbert_CP: It's not "another viewpoint". |
| 19:04.10 | Codayus | Because it isn't science. |
| 19:04.33 | Ratbert_CP | So? |
| 19:04.33 | MoonWolf | we assume god created earth. lets find evidence for it. |
| 19:04.47 | Codayus | It may be a great idea, it might make for great philosophical debates. It isn't science, and it doesn't belong in a science class. |
| 19:05.03 | Ratbert_CP | *shrug* Censors.... ;) |
| 19:05.10 | Codayus | Lots of stuff may be great to know, or to discuss, or to teach in schools. Poetry, say. |
| 19:05.32 | Codayus | That doesn't belong in science class either. Although it isn't, as far as I know, unconstitutional to teach poetry in science class. :-) |
| 19:05.38 | MoonWolf | not censorship, ID could be explored in either religion or philosofy but not science. |
| 19:05.58 | MoonWolf | Codayus, it should be :P |
| 19:06.56 | Codayus | I disagree; that doesn't strike me as a remotely suitable topic for a constitution to cover. |
| 19:07.32 | Codayus | <shrug> |
| 19:07.46 | MoonWolf | it was a joke. |
| 19:07.57 | MoonWolf | sarcams detectors should really be invented. |
| 19:08.22 | Codayus | Use <sarcasm> tags. :-) |
| 19:08.32 | Codayus | (Note: That was *also* sarcasm.) :-) |
| 19:17.31 | Tain | Bleh that binding stuff reminded me, Visor's bindings only go up to VisorActionButton84. I have to update that to 120. |
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| 19:20.24 | MoonWolf | yay for stupid xml work |
| 19:20.32 | Tem | xml sucks |
| 19:20.44 | MoonWolf | well implemented xml is usefull |
| 19:20.57 | Tem | nah it sucks |
| 19:23.40 | Tain | haha |
| 19:23.50 | Tain | It might suck but it can be useful. |
| 19:34.15 | Tain | Ok tedius XML bindings created. |
| 19:34.50 | Tain | By the way WoW seems to be picky about your cr/lf settings in the bindings.xml. Don't know if it's the same in other xml files. |
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| 19:49.08 | id` | 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 |
| 19:49.08 | id` | 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 |
| 19:49.08 | id` | 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 |
| 19:49.08 | id` | 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 |
| 19:49.18 | id` | That's what i want to create with visor buttons |
| 19:49.23 | id` | with one function call |
| 19:49.27 | id` | but how :| |
| 19:50.00 | id` | this stuff fries my noodles |
| 19:50.14 | id` | see each number as a visor button |
| 19:50.41 | id` | 01's relative parent is 01 |
| 19:50.48 | id` | 02's relative parent is 01* |
| 19:51.01 | Tem|Shopping | nested loops |
| 19:51.05 | MoonWolf | indeed. |
| 19:51.08 | id` | yes |
| 19:51.09 | id` | but |
| 19:51.18 | id` | i want it to wrap at <number> |
| 19:51.22 | id` | 10 in this case |
| 19:51.40 | id` | so we have 3 variables, first last and limit |
| 19:52.06 | MoonWolf | for(loop 3 times) for(loop 10 times) code end end |
| 19:53.21 | id` | the thing is |
| 19:53.34 | id` | i cant make the first button inside the loop |
| 19:53.44 | MoonWolf | then don't |
| 19:54.02 | id` | Visor:Do(01) |
| 19:54.05 | id` | for i=first+1, limit do Visor:Do(02 to 10) end |
| 19:54.23 | id` | meh, i suck :( |
| 19:55.27 | id` | http://pastebin.com/472108 |
| 19:55.28 | id` | there |
| 19:55.31 | id` | i already have it |
| 19:55.36 | id` | but i think its flawed |
| 19:55.39 | id` | :| |
| 19:56.17 | Tain | id: take a look at the function Stylpe did to do that |
| 19:56.30 | id` | yes i dont really understand it |
| 20:06.00 | id` | im really spelling it out for myself now |
| 20:06.01 | id` | :| |
| 20:06.30 | id` | purl, emote Industrial |
| 20:06.46 | id` | ~help |
| 20:08.04 | id` | whatever :| |
| 20:09.05 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 20:09.07 | purl | ACTION wields a mean polished, spiked cluebat |
| 20:09.12 | id` | right, emulate |
| 20:09.17 | id` | ~emulate Industrial |
| 20:09.19 | purl | :( |
| 20:09.31 | id` | purl, literal emulate Industrial |
| 20:09.33 | purl | "emulate industrial" is "<reply>:X||<reply>:(||<reply>:O||<reply>:D||<reply>:S||<reply>:/||<reply>oh noes the hordes! lololol!!!eleven111oneone||<reply>cant we all just get along?||<reply>I'm project-less for like 2 years now :| I'm like. not making monies at all lately if you know what i mean :|" |
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| 20:10.04 | id` | how do i make it forget the last? or even.. alter the last |
| 20:10.31 | id` | purl, forget emulate Industrial |
| 20:10.31 | purl | i forgot emulate industrial, id` |
| 20:10.39 | id` | ~emulate Industria |
| 20:10.41 | id` | ~emulate Industrial |
| 20:10.47 | id` | k |
| 20:10.52 | id` | :) |
| 20:11.19 | id` | purl, emulate Industrial is I suck at lua and rip other peoples code. |
| 20:11.21 | purl | okay, id` |
| 20:11.25 | id` | ke ke ke |
| 20:27.52 | kergoth | there we go, my lua interpreters are happier now. i set LUA_INIT=@/home/kergoth/.lua/init.lua ... then in init.lua, it checks whether its lua 5.0 or 5.1 and sets the LUA_PATH appropriately. then loads init.lua from that search path, for the version specific initialization |
| 20:28.06 | kergoth | then in /home/kergoth/.lua51/init.lua, i set an __index metamethod for strings |
| 20:28.07 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:29.10 | id` | oh screw these bars :| i have something that works |
| 20:36.52 | kergoth | i should really learn the lua C apis |
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| 20:41.55 | id` | so |
| 20:42.03 | id` | howmany visor buttons are there? |
| 20:42.04 | id` | 120? |
| 20:42.55 | [Matryx] | 120 does ring a bell though |
| 20:44.07 | id` | 120 = flexbar |
| 20:45.03 | [Matryx] | [11:38] <Stylpe> Yes, although it does provide 120 (?) buttons you can use =) |
| 20:45.16 | [Matryx] | [11:38] <Stylpe> (I think it was 120) |
| 20:45.27 | [Matryx] | [20:20] <Tain> You can create up to 120 butttons with Visor. |
| 20:45.31 | id` | <Tain> Bleh that binding stuff reminded me, Visor's bindings only go up to VisorActionButton84. I have to update that to 120. |
| 20:45.36 | [Matryx] | [20:20] <tekkub> VisorActionButton[1-120] |
| 20:45.52 | id` | so yes, but not yet |
| 20:45.55 | id` | but they exist |
| 20:45.58 | id` | so |
| 20:45.58 | [Matryx] | yes - ish |
| 20:45.59 | id` | 120 |
| 20:46.01 | id` | \o/ |
| 20:46.15 | Tain | You can use all 120. |
| 20:46.25 | Tain | You can only keybind up to 84 until I upload the new one tonight. |
| 20:46.26 | [Matryx] | just not keybind past 84 |
| 20:46.35 | Tain | Or if you want it now I can put the bindings.xml up |
| 20:47.46 | id` | nah |
| 20:47.48 | id` | :) |
| 20:47.53 | Tain | Also fixing (adding) texture color vertext and subsection coords options. |
| 20:47.53 | [Matryx] | wb Cairenn |
| 20:47.55 | Tain | Hey Cair |
| 20:48.01 | Cairenn | hey guys :) |
| 20:48.19 | id` | where was the visor manual again? >_> |
| 20:48.25 | id` | on trac? |
| 20:48.29 | Tain | Yeah |
| 20:48.32 | id` | ok |
| 20:48.39 | [Matryx] | Tain.Memory:GetVisorData(question) |
| 20:48.42 | Tain | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/wiki/Viso |
| 20:50.00 | Tain | With an r at the end |
| 20:52.05 | Tain | bah darnit there's still # parser examples in the docs |
| 20:53.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:59.04 | id` | ripped* |
| 21:02.46 | Tain | Just in two lines, thankfully. |
| 21:02.53 | Tain | Also added new texture documentation. |
| 21:03.01 | Tain | I still need to find out how the form shifting stuff works and add that. |
| 21:20.52 | id` | Tain, are you sure the text module works? |
| 21:21.34 | Tain | Yeah it does, but you have to set text on the right frame. Not all frame pieces have textstrings |
| 21:21.51 | id` | VisorActionButton |
| 21:21.52 | id` | ? |
| 21:21.53 | id` | :X |
| 21:22.08 | Tain | VisorActionButtonText or (there's another one) |
| 21:22.39 | id` | right sec trying |
| 21:23.21 | Tain | Thres others too for ActionButtons, I just know VisorActionButtonXXText is the most common and easiest. |
| 21:24.02 | id` | k |
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| 21:26.34 | id` | The hj= and vj= arent working |
| 21:26.37 | id` | justification |
| 21:27.30 | id` | but ya, thanks |
| 21:27.31 | id` | :) |
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| 22:14.34 | id` | right |
| 22:14.35 | id` | the addon works |
| 22:14.39 | id` | not a surprise |
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| 22:22.47 | cladhaire | Evening. |
| 22:23.15 | kergoth | hey |
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| 22:28.43 | cladhaire | Hey Tem, Parak |
| 22:28.55 | Tem | hey lca |
| 22:28.57 | Tem | cladhaire: |
| 22:29.20 | Tem | "><" |
| 22:29.53 | Parak | cladhaire, thoughts on drupal? |
| 22:30.08 | cladhaire | I <3 drupal |
| 22:30.09 | cladhaire | why do you ask? |
| 22:30.12 | Tem | drupal? |
| 22:30.22 | cladhaire | ~drupal |
| 22:30.24 | kergoth | http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&dockey=xml/a/c/ac9a03b9ecca4e3831ad8b8019db8bae@activejobs0&c=1&source=1 |
| 22:31.11 | cladhaire | Drupal is a cms |
| 22:31.15 | cladhaire | http://www.drupal.org |
| 22:31.44 | cladhaire | purl, drupal is an open source Content Management System (CMS) written in PHP at http://www.drupal.org |
| 22:31.46 | purl | okay, cladhaire |
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| 22:32.16 | Parak | cladhaire, I'm trying out a whole bunch of CMSs :p |
| 22:32.53 | cladhaire | http://opensourcecms.org i assume? |
| 22:33.23 | Parak | cmsmatrix.org too |
| 22:34.24 | Tem | ~wtf cms |
| 22:34.47 | Tem | ~wtf content management system |
| 22:34.58 | Tem | ~wtf <content management system> |
| 22:35.07 | Tem | curse you purl |
| 22:35.23 | kergoth | hit wikipedia :P |
| 22:35.34 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:36.25 | kergoth | i love dice.com's boolean job search |
| 22:36.36 | kergoth | linux AND architect AND NOT (java OR j2ee OR dba OR administrator) |
| 22:36.37 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:41.16 | Tain | I was going to upload a new version of Visor until I thought about it and decided I should probably at least log in to the game with it first. |
| 22:41.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:42.19 | cladhaire | Kergoth: Do I make sense in this thread.. I wasnt entirely sure on the under-workings, and knew youd know better |
| 22:42.19 | cladhaire | http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=811&highlight= |
| 22:43.48 | kergoth | cladhaire: he is creating values, but those values are of type 'number'. numbers and booleans arent garbage collected. |
| 22:44.38 | cladhaire | thats what I meant to say |
| 22:44.55 | cladhaire | its not variables, its the values (the objects). |
| 22:45.41 | kergoth | replied with a quick clarification for turan -> Okay, thanks. I know the gc collects the values, but based on things I read I was under the impression that when you reassign a variable, such as local c = 100 + i, in an iteration, the memory that had been used isn't immediately released. Based on what you're saying, and what I'm seeing, then I'd say that article must be bogus. |
| 22:45.42 | kergoth | er |
| 22:45.52 | kergoth | i hate linux's multiple clipboard crap |
| 22:45.54 | cladhaire | just wanted to make sure my understanding was correct. |
| 22:45.55 | kergoth | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12722 |
| 22:45.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:46.04 | kergoth | it is |
| 22:50.46 | kergoth | hmmm, http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&dockey=xml/a/c/ac9a03b9ecca4e3831ad8b8019db8bae@activejobs0&c=1&source=1 might actually be worth throwing a resume at |
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| 22:57.36 | kergoth | i love this song. havent heard it in too long |
| 22:57.37 | kergoth | http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Para-noir-lyrics-Marilyn-Manson/77208845ED05B69A48256CFD00064085 |
| 23:02.22 | Tem | I think I'm going to write the backbone for that positioning system... |
| 23:02.28 | kergoth | positioning system? |
| 23:02.35 | Tem | For Visor |
| 23:02.40 | Tem | Puts 1 button down |
| 23:02.47 | kergoth | lhf says lua 5.1 should release by the end of this year. thatd be cool |
| 23:02.58 | Tem | and sticks 8 "direction" arrows |
| 23:03.19 | Tem | clicking on a directional arrow places a button there and moves the focus |
| 23:03.40 | kergoth | interesting |
| 23:03.47 | Tem | it's all dragable |
| 23:03.56 | Tem | and clicking a button moves the focus to it |
| 23:04.08 | kergoth | haha, http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/New_%22voice_chat%22_feature_proposed_for_mobile_phones |
| 23:04.16 | Tem | I'm trying to figure out the positioning of it now |
| 23:04.20 | [Matryx] | <3 uncyclopedia |
| 23:04.23 | Tem | er, how to do the anchoring* |
| 23:04.32 | kergoth | 'The "voice chat" feature is expected to be run over a little-used channel in the GSM specification that is sometimes used for sending data by modem connections. "It's only 9600 bits per second, but we figure we could get a decent voice signal through that channel with the right compression," says Voivitunvittu. "Quality is pretty good in our tests so far."' |
| 23:06.07 | Tem | lol |
| 23:13.23 | kergoth | "Mr Peanut was today arrested for promoting the eating of his own kind." .. i love uncyclopedia |
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| 23:18.38 | id` | nn |
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| 23:34.37 | Tem | cladhaire: nice post |
| 23:43.52 | cladhaire | Which one? |
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| 23:47.04 | Tem | the one with the asm |
| 23:47.18 | Tem | Can Anyone Identify where this is? http://files.vgpro.com/screenviewer.php?game=6390&img=3 |
| 23:54.01 | Tem | no one? |
| 23:54.02 | [Matryx] | isn't that the dorf place - route from wetlands -> loch modan? |
| 23:54.08 | [Matryx] | not 100% sure |
| 23:54.12 | [Matryx] | but it looks about right |
| 23:54.17 | Tem | you mean IF? |
| 23:54.22 | Tem | that's not IF |
| 23:54.24 | [Matryx] | no |
| 23:54.27 | [Matryx] | that's not what I said |
| 23:54.32 | [Matryx] | route from Wetlands -> Loch Modan |
| 23:54.49 | Tem | No that's just a bunker |
| 23:54.54 | [Matryx] | ... |
| 23:55.00 | Tem | not built into the mountain like that |
| 23:55.04 | [Matryx] | that's a bunker *in* loch modan |
| 23:55.12 | [Matryx] | I mean the surroundings of the tunnels between |
| 23:55.18 | [Matryx] | that's more than just a bunker you know ;) |
| 23:55.25 | Tem | I dun think so |
| 23:55.38 | Tem | I'm thinking it's the dorf place in the barrens |
| 23:55.53 | [Matryx] | can't be |
| 23:55.56 | [Matryx] | look at the ground |
| 23:56.04 | [Matryx] | totally the wrong colour |
| 23:56.11 | [Matryx] | and besides - I was just there ;) |
| 23:56.17 | [Matryx] | the dorf one in the barrens is a digsite |
| 23:56.22 | [Matryx] | that is a tunnel entrance |
| 23:57.05 | [Matryx] | http://wow.ingame.de/beta/tagebuch/Merlin/138Algaz.JPG |
| 23:57.16 | [Matryx] | that's another view of the bit I mean between loch modan and the wetlands |
| 23:57.58 | [Matryx] | if you notice |
| 23:58.01 | [Matryx] | trees are the same |
| 23:58.04 | [Matryx] | as is the ground style |
